Men are cooked, new study shows men are the ones with the biological clock, not women.

Ok_Cook_3098 · 2025-10-20T20:29:27+00:00

Wow some obscure YouTube video from the author of "30 reasons why men deserve nothing"

All the studys are possibly the only studys existing

Makuta_Servaela · 2025-10-20T21:16:08+00:00

We both have biological clocks. Women's uteri stop working, and male sperm gets worse. No one should be having kids after age 50 or so. A 60-year-old doesn't have the energy to keep up with a 10-year-old.

The purpose of menopause is likely to respect that, too, since higher-intelligence social species tend to have a grandmother role to pass down information to younger generations. It would make so much sense for men to get their own version of "man"opause for the same reason.

Sorryimjustsaying · 2025-10-20T20:50:42+00:00

Um, not sure if the "30 reasons men deserve less" channel might be the best for this information but from my understanding current data shows risks for advanced PARENTAL age.

Significant risk increases: 40+ for women - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8020515/ & 45+ for men - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9957550/#B10-genes-14-00486 (if you feel like doing some reading)

Edited to add: Not just risks to children either, risks to the person carrying as well!

TopShelfSnipes · 2025-10-20T20:25:50+00:00

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but both men and women have biological clocks.

Degradation of sperm quality has been known about for a long time. There's a reason sperm banks don't take sperm from dudes over 35, and that was long before this study. This isn't new information, and it doesn't mean men are "cooked."

Women's fertility tends to decline rapidly at 38, and women who can get pregnant naturally after, say, 43, are incredibly rare.

If we cared about "birth rates" we'd do more to make homeownership more affordable and to make urban living a better environment to raise kids in. And we'd stop glorifying long hours at work which literally burn up people's primes in their 20 to an absurd degree when they are making arguably the least money they'll ever make in their careers.

In general, if things continue to trend the way they are, you're going to see a lot more scientific focus on expanding access to IVF, artificial wombs, etc. And with that is likely going to come a lot more study into how to avoid certain genetic disorders, and someday possibly even a Gattaca like existence where defective chromosal issues like trisomy can be "fixed."

PassengerCultural421 · 2025-10-20T21:10:06+00:00

Both men and women have biological clocks OP.

Obvious_Smoke3633 · 2025-10-20T20:21:14+00:00

Menopause has entered the chat

BougieHeaux · 2025-10-21T14:44:21+00:00

we new this.

sperm studies have always reflected this.

especially in terms of birth defects and learning disabilities.

YveisGrey · 2025-10-20T23:28:11+00:00

I think it’s always been known that the quality of sperm declines with age I’m sure other factors play into it as well including genetics and lifestyle. The difference is women become infertile with age and men don’t. With that said since the game for women is quality and the game for men in quantity this does matter more than many men would like to think.

Being able to impregnate a woman is not impressive at all because women are selective they want quality men are the ones who will take anything but they just don’t understand our strategy. We aren’t looking for any sperm to the do the job but quality sperm because pregnancy is very costly to women, why waste it on some unattractive old man with crappy sperm?

So I guess men’s sperm declining in quality with age explains why attractiveness declines in men with age. Older men (45+) are usually considered quite unattractive to young women and it’s actually quite obvious that young women have a strong preference for men younger than that age. For whatever reason the RP thinks every 27 year old is salivating over a middle aged man

Flightlessbirbz · 2025-10-21T02:22:06+00:00

Well, both men and women have a biological clock. This is kind of obvious. However, yes, it seems to be only recently that people are talking about how men’s sperm plays a vital role in determining if a woman can get pregnant, miscarriages, birth defects, and fully determines the sex of the baby. This understanding challenges the old-fashioned notion that it’s somehow the woman’s “fault” if she can’t “bear him a son.”

It’s also interesting to note that without the modern invention of Viagra, how natural is it really for old men to be able to reproduce? Certainly some always have, but I feel like the fact that most old guys need a pill to even be able to get an erection is just conveniently overlooked in these “but men age like wine!” rants.

Gold_Sheepherder6569 · 2025-10-20T21:42:44+00:00

You didn't read any of the studies did you? First of all, women's eggs do not stay the same throughout and there are no "powerful regenerative cells" mechanism referenced in any of the studies or new articles the lady posted. Second, one of these studies doesn't even involve humans but zebra finches, a species of bird, so you can't extrapolate the results from there to human. Third, it has been widely known for a while that having advanced paternal age like advanced maternal age reduces the fitness of offspring so this isn't news. These are studies about the effects of maternal age on an offspring incase you think I am lying(note they all control for paternal age):

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22525954/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5860004/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29420406/

All in all neither men or women should really be having children in their old age and should stop by 35 but considering that age of first mothers is rising in the US, things are likely going to get worse

Turbulent-Company373 · 2025-10-21T02:53:11+00:00

At one time, women were also blamed for the sex of the child when it was the man's sperm that determined it. Wonders never cease.

PuzzleheadedJob4413 · 2025-10-21T04:19:15+00:00

This study was specifically misinterpreted by people - The study does not show what you just claimed, that's these video's misreading of the study proper. It does show men's fertility decline with age - But that's not exactly "new" finding. As for the claim that it shows women's fertility don't decline with age, that is not what the study shows whatsoever.

2025-10-21T19:20:28+00:00

This feels the opposite of the red pilled grifters.

Cultural-Ad-8486 · 2025-10-20T20:43:33+00:00

- A link to a video from a channel with a name and content that promotes misandry and doesn't even hide it.

- Ignoring that sperm degradation is a topic that has never been hidden.

- While also completely ignoring that women's problems with age and fertility are much more profound and detrimental to both mother and fetus, especially not only due to fertilization issues but also to intrauterine development, which is a purely female problem for obvious reasons. Fathers are not directly at risk in this case.

- And ignoring that, although gamete degradation occurs in both men and women, women have a much more limited number of them and, consequently, a shorter fertility period.

Clear.

Newduuud · 2025-10-20T20:17:37+00:00

Whether or not this is true, the “biological clock” has always been cope from men trying to say that men are the prize. Even if women could only have children for a year and then be infertile for the rest of their lives, men would still be chasing women more than women would be chasing men. The biological clock is practically irrelevant in dating

Logos1789 · 2025-10-20T20:30:42+00:00

If this is as consequential as it’s portrayed here, then surely women in their 40’s and 50’s wouldn’t be the main contributor to fertility issues if their partner is 18-30, right?

Training-Cook3507 · 2025-10-20T20:47:23+00:00

It happens to both sexes. And yes, women have a biological clock, they stop ovulating.

Sufficient_Low6728 · 2025-10-20T21:17:44+00:00

Everyone has a biological clock lol

VersionEins · 2025-10-20T21:46:38+00:00

What point are you trying to make other than that men should have kids as soon as possible? I'm not sure that there'll be many woman who are okay with men wanting to impulsively have children.

Outside_Memory5703 · 2025-10-20T22:15:30+00:00

Doesn’t change the fact that menopause is a thing

Grow_peace_in_Bedlam · 2025-10-21T15:22:13+00:00

I will just say that I hope this is true for my sake, since I was in my mid 30s and my wife in her early 40s when our son was born. He seems fine so far, but anything that lessens the likelihood of hidden conditions down the road is good new for me.

MarioWilson122 · 2025-10-20T21:20:12+00:00

So many studies over decades prove that this is completely untrue.

BrainMarshal · 2025-10-21T06:43:41+00:00

What a joke, women literally cannot bear children after menopause. That clock absolutely is ticking. And women give plenty of defects to their kids. You've posted a bunch of idiot pseudoscience from Youtube Research Academy WTF.

Easily_Bann4 · 2025-10-20T22:03:59+00:00

No matter how much this gets posted it’s pure revenge fantasy from women because they have a real biological clock and men don’t.

The true study that will matter is what happens when you pair an extremely old man with a young woman. Guarantee they having nothing but healthy kids.

LOOK AT THE NUMBERS!

Going from a 1% chance to a 2% chance is a big increase relatively but still nothing to be concerned with individually.

Not to mention, women simply aren’t having many kids with older guys. A dude in his +50s is likely fucking a woman of similar age. Guess which one of them likely literally can’t have kids?

Show me the birth rates for +50 yr old dudes with women in their 20s or stfu.

yomel123 · 2025-10-20T23:47:12+00:00

Oh they gonna be mad 🤣 I just know every woman of the past is smiling down on us for calling out their lies they’ve made up to trash women 🥰

captaindestucto · 2025-10-21T04:00:50+00:00

It's common knowledge that men have a biological clock. A 70 year old man has 1/20 sperm that are genetically abnormal compared to 1/50 for a 20 something. ...But that means a 70 year old still has a 95% chance of fathering healthy children (assuming he's not impotent) whereas most women won't conceive past 40.

Checking out the FDS lunacy was funny though.

NoDanaOnlyZuuI · 2025-10-20T20:51:41+00:00

Men’s sperm quality degrades.

Women go through menopause.

We both have clocks.

Smart-Mall4110 · 2025-10-20T20:56:35+00:00

Quality goes down in your 30s for both men and women, so does fertility. Risk of a defects goes way up, especially after 40. Men see their testosterone start to drop in their thirties; it's called aging.

TheAccountant369 · 2025-10-20T20:32:50+00:00

This seems like a lot of deflection from a woman who is well aware that her eggs are getting more shriveled by the day.

Odd-Yoghurt1869 · 2025-10-20T20:20:54+00:00

That's why men can still easily have kids in their 60's.

Cool story bro.

wtknight · 2025-10-20T20:41:06+00:00

while womens eggs stay the same throughout their lifetime due to powerful regenerative cells.

Most studies say that women’s eggs decrease in quality just as much. Here is a recent article from a respected academic institution rather than a YouTube video.

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2025/10/430841/why-does-female-fertility-decline-so-fast-key-ovary

The article actually suggests that it’s the aging of the whole ovarian system that contributes to this, and not just the egg.

tahmkenchisbroken · 2025-10-20T22:28:10+00:00

What a load of bullshit lmao. A simple search can show you maternal age can affect the kids health

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2025-10-20T20:46:37+00:00

Saving this argument in case my next woman wants kids

Popeoath · 2025-10-21T02:55:17+00:00

Some dude just got a kid at 93 years old.

Icy-Gene7565 · 2025-10-21T03:34:05+00:00

Too bad all those eggs get wasted in bodies that can't support emerging life any longer.

SexCrispies · 2025-10-21T09:51:50+00:00

I am going to look at the sources and address them (1)-(4). Sources from the video: One, two, three, four

(1) Old fathers pass on more mutations to kids than old mothers. This is not about women not aging like milk, or that your value does not go down with age. It does not show how eggs do not expire or deteriorate, it's about accumulation of mutations by cell division, that does not happen in eggs. Eggs still deteriorate in quality and quantitiy by age, leading to defects and lower fertility.

(2) Offspring fathered by old males have shorter telomeres and reduced lifespans. IN FUCKING ZEBRA FINCHES NOT IN HUMANS. Do you even read your own sources?

(3) Older fathers associated with increased birth risks. "Generally speaking, the older a father's age, the greater the risk. For example, men who were 45 or older were 14 percent more likely to have a child born prematurely, and men 50 or older were 28 percent more likely to have a child that required admission to the neonatal intensive care unit. Still, these numbers aren't reason to drastically change any life plans, as the risks are still relatively low, Eisenberg said. He compared the increased risks to buying lottery tickets. "If you buy two lottery tickets instead of one, your chances of winning double, so it's increased by 100 percent," he said. "But that's a relative increase. Because your chance of winning the lottery started very small, it's still unlikely that you're going to win the lottery. This is a very extreme example, but the same concept can be applied to how you think about these birth risks."". quoted from the study.

DUH. You want to argue that MEN are the ones with the biological clock, not women, when there is only a 28% increased chance (not A 28% chance), for requiring admission to neonatal intensive care unit for men 50 AND OLDER. For women, there are virtually no natural pregnancies or births above age 50.

(4) Advanced paternal age is associated with lower facial attractiveness.

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I don't know if you understand how incredibly tiny the effect size of this is, as well as how few or none of the "circle" symboles (women) there are on the age > 45 side of things, on the graph that illustrates the correlation. So maybe take that into account when you argue about biological clock and aging like milk.

(cont.)

SeemedGood · 2025-10-21T18:44:10+00:00

My wife and I are the same age. She stopped ovulating about 8 years ago. I still produce sperm every day, though not as much as I used to.

Clean-Luck6428 · 2025-10-20T20:19:45+00:00

Has this ever been disputed?

Reality is still that women produce a finite amount of eggs in their lifetime whereas men do not go through menopause.

Statistically I believe it’s about 50/50 when it comes to which gender is responsible for pregnancy complications. But you also have to factor in that there are way more couples where the man is older so that also affects the spread

projecteddesperation · 2025-10-20T21:16:36+00:00

“Advanced paternal age” is an established term set around 40-45+ for men. Advanced maternal age on the other hand is 35+ for women.

DiligentRope · 2025-10-20T20:17:50+00:00

"new study" is where I stopped reading.

Edit: "new studies" are just sensational headlines, unless they become scientific consensus

Pro-IDGAF · 2025-10-20T23:56:30+00:00

whatta bullshit video. mens sperm renew every 48 hours or so. womens eggs are static and set so….what is this powerful regenerative cells we’re talking about here? rewriting science again?

Ragazzocolbass8 · 2025-10-20T22:30:50+00:00

I banged more 19~23 yrs old in my late 30's and early 40's than I did in the previous 20 years.

Also, at 44 my current gf is 29 and I've always refused to date older than 30.

Women's only worthwhile quality is their youth and it dries up fast. Men on the other hand age like fine wine and their value (money/status/influence) only increases with time.

So yeah, nah.

Flockasaurus · 2025-10-21T19:43:20+00:00

Great to see you promoting r/womenarenotintomen now. Glad you're finally on board.

AGoogolIsALot · 2025-10-31T20:38:02+00:00

I think I may have just read the dumbest post I've ever read on Reddit. And I've been on Reddit for like, five years now. I've read a LOT of stupid.

awakening_7600 · 2025-10-21T16:59:53+00:00

Both are responsible. At least with men, fertility treatments are much less expensive and easier to attain. You point the finger at us when 4 fingers are staring right back at you.

DaveBrowns611 · 2025-10-21T17:40:16+00:00

Not enough sources can verify the claim you presented. I guess over time new info can be brought out. For now everything points to the eggs not the sperm.

Title	Men are cooked, new study shows men are the ones with the biological clock, not women.
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