Yes, there is a disparity in the data that needs to be cleared up. The data says that something like 80 percent of men are not actively looking for a relationship with a woman, but also that men right now want marriage more than women. The self-reported data says that women are happier single, yet all of the other data shows that women are highly depressed and worse off after a divorce. I understand that two things can be correct at the same time, but right now, both sides are fighting with data that is probably not fully actualized.
But, typically, in general, on average, it is women who push for marriage. We see far more women complain about men not committing or not being willing to commit. We see far more women questioning themselves about their three-year boyfriend. We see far more women talking about engagement and wedding rings, and wedding planning, and wedding drama.
Yes, "data" is the plural of "anecdote". A data set is nothing but a lot of anecdotal input.
I hope this thread doesn't get removed. Every time I find a thought-provoking video that I want to share with others here, it gets removed. But, here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJskSFjOqEI
This is the woman recording this. She obviously feels like she is in the right. Her happiness is more important than the vows they took. He is seeing them struggling as building. She sees the struggling as being a failed marriage.
She's using all the buzzphrases. "I married the good guy." "Sometimes it just doesn't work out." "We shouldn't stay together just because we signed a contract." I have been on the receiving end of all of these phrases before. Meanwhile, I think it is safe to assume that she probably was a huge proponent of them getting married. And she is putting the most emphasis on her happiness - not anyone else's.
Why is this? Did she just not think it all the way through properly? What do you think her and the typical single woman's expectations are in a marriage?
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