Men like hot women, and your average pizza delivery guy would be happy to get a tip in the form of fellatio by such a woman. Yada yada, we all know this stuff, and how men are supposed to keep it to themselves. However, it is only really an issue beacsue women work different. Which is valid! Men should be considerate of women, but when women are like "men wish women were into them like how they are into women...", well, yes. And then there would be no issue. At least much less of an issue on average.

Men's tendencies are not shitty in a vacuum, but in contrast to women.

What bluepillers/women refuse to accept is that this goes the other way around, in fact the contrast between women and men can feel simialrly "shitty" from the other side, and the fact that this gets dismissed entirely in progressive circles is the biggest manifestation of lack of sympathy and willingness (or ability?) to put yourself in the other's shoes.

I think a very easy example is the average age gap in relationships, which is about 2.5 years, and the man is of course the older one. That is not huge, but it's not exactly negligible eaither. For every couple that are the same age, there is one where the man is 5 years older, basically. And the underlying reason is surely the stuff that correlates with age: experience, "having your life together", one could even say power, and agency in life.

Another thing I wanna bring up is the stories of very sexually inhibited women (perhaps traumatized) finding an awesome male partner who is oh so patient with them, and guides them into a whole new world of pleasure. Sure, these stories ar far from a guarantee for women too, but they happen, I've seen stories like these shared many times (usually with an undertone of "see that men? Be like that!"), and while I have no direct statistics about this, it obviously happens less the other way around. That fits with the aforementioned age gap which is an expression of some degree of experience gap and yes, some sort of "leading". And it's also just literally what struggling men wish for, and to which women collectively reply with disgust and associations of "pity sex". "Help" in a heterosexual context, however much of it meaningfully exists, is overwhelmingly one-way.

It boils down to a repulsion of weakness. Yes, this is all generalization, but so is the chore gap in relationships, or harassment, or whatever ways men are shitty. It's both shitty from the other's perspective.

No, it's not about women having "obligations", it is about a frankly very obvious general gap of experience and confidence required for our love and attraction, which men are going to feel. It's not an equal playing field. And it feels shitty having to be the more experienced person. It creates a ton of pressure and a lot of self-fulfilling loser-ness, it is what emasculation is about, which we can't just shrug off when women want "real men" on average, men who know how to handle women, and no men who need handholding. This repulsion of weakness hurts and affects men. And there is no amount of personal self-improvement and actual sex-having that would make me unsee the pain of that at this point. It's legit about as real and as prevalent as objectification imo. It is that simple.

It's not mature of women to refuse to feel bad about this at all or to deny this ENTRIELY. It isn't. Never in my life have I sexually harassed or manipulated a woman but sometimes I feel bad for the whole objectification stuff and I reflect about it, myself, my own desires can feel melancholic with that in mind, and having to learn how to be in peace despite that is... a thing. Yes. It's the courtesy of women speaking about their experiences, and I genuinely don't think men listening to that is THAT rare anymore (say hello to your awesome husbands and boyfriends, women). And the flipside of this essentially doesn't exist at all, which is what I feel the lack of.

Heterosexual dating is not really seen as a double edged sword by women anywhere outside of perhaps some veteran women having some series of longwinded anonymous debates onine. It's like women do not really believe that men have a narrative of their own, feeling the contrast from their side.

I only have issues with women's sexuality becasue men work different. It's exactly the same as it is the other way around. It's the refusing of accepting the other's hurt having to do with them that will forever bother me.