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[–]desal 250 points251 points252 points 3 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
be prepared to catch flak for dating someone under 21, any male in their family might be over protective but hoping you are a good guy and not an abuser or predator it might not be a big deal.
the problem with age gaps comes in when you no longer can relate to them / have nothing to talk about because you're on two separate pages.
[–]FIVE_6_MAFIA 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The can't relate / nothing to talk about stuff doesn't translate in real life, it's just a Reddit talking point honestly
[+]JuliustheWise -21 points-20 points-19 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s so fucking dumb for people just to be so focused on numbers and age
if I was with some one younger I would look out for her, and give her what ever my experience could benefit her, try to be mature and help her make sure she has healthy boundaries etc
I get it if someone might be concerned but if they talk to her or meet me, they should put their feelings aside for what makes her happy, and that I’m not abusive and respectful
[–]JuliustheWise 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of people downvoting my comment. You are implying it’s wrong for me to be attracted to a girl of university age? I like older women too, I want to view people as people, I don’t want to view girls in terms of x/10 looks or arbitrary things like that, I want to have connection as people and view people for who they are
[+]r1bb1tTheFrog -55 points-54 points-53 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Catch flak? Sounds like a natural part of being a man.
[+]SinistarGrin -13 points-12 points-11 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly. Men are walking around so fuckin sawft these days it’s embarrassing. You should try shooting and skinning some bison out here in Alaska. That will cure your ‘social anxiety’ real fast.
[–]HTML_Novice 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean that would make it way worse since I’d be talking to literally no one
[+]desal -7 points-6 points-5 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
can't assume anyone else's experience in life. what is obvious to some, is enlightening to many.
[–]r1bb1tTheFrog 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably just my mistake in the way I wrote it. It was meant to agree with your statement lol
[–][deleted] 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
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[–]desal 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm a male that doesn't hate women, but it might come across like a feminist to one who does.
[–]Twosidesofthesame 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s a nice saying , I can’t respect dudes that hate women with their victim mindset
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[–]desal 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
the inverse actually, I am pointing out your own assumptions.
[–]CautiousSea4815 84 points85 points86 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
All the guys thinking they have to be successful before a woman will like them are over-thinking things. If a woman likes you, they'll be with you regardless.
[–]TheRealestBiz 26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You can’t move them off of this belief no matter how hard you try. All that stupid alpha/beta stuff has permeated American society down to the bedrock.
[–]Bdog5k 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean, it would certainly help put you in better light when she meets you. It seems like more of a preference then deal MAKER. Depending on the class of woman, the lack of money could be a deal breaker, if she looks down on him.
Although it would be pretty reasonable for someone to say they are more likely to attract people when they are in shape, or dressed better. Maybe no single thing seals the deal, but if you take the same person and consider different versions of themself
Successful, works out, educated, sociable
Skips the gym, broke, acts like a bum
The success itself probably isn't as important as having the traits that makes someone successful, if that makes sense.
[–]DufflebagForever 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
facts
[–]Hermit41 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In some cases true, I’ve experienced it
[–]kathruins 267 points268 points269 points 3 years ago (84 children) | Copy Link
hookups are a-ok, but a relationship could be dicey. their brains arent developed and they have no life experience. therefore you could take the lead and have some submissive, timid girl to date--seems like a lot of guys here are cool with that. i prefer women with life experience who arent afraid to stand up for themselves. age gap FWBs are awesome though. can be a pretty fun kink. i wouldnt take the advice of anyone who refers to women as used cars. holy shit this sub is going downhill.
[–]Kokadison 136 points137 points138 points 3 years ago (44 children) | Copy Link
Yea, this sub has some rather questionable guys in here.
[–]repfive305 3 years ago [recovered] (40 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, you. Who gives af if you date a 18-22 year old. They're adults.
edit - Lmao my comment was +8 til the guy below commented. how does me "telling on myself" mean anything. now it's -3. Reddit is strange.
[–]Kokadison 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Also, no one is saying that you can’t date someone from 18-22. If you look at my other comment I made separate from this I told OP to go for it.
But comparing women to cars is disgusting.
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[–]kathruins 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
your analogy implied that women get worse when they get older and/or have sex. thats absurd. people aren't objects that lose value. try again.
[–]Live-Ad-6309 -5 points-4 points-3 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
They objectively do become less physically attractive, and after 25, slowly at first, then later on faster, become less physically capable of producing healthy children. They certainly don't get more fun with age, that either stays the same or declines.
Assuming what a man is interested in, is her looks and personality, rather than her socio/economic status, which I'm sure most men on this sub would agree is the norm, women are less desirable as they age.
The only advantages to older women is their socio/economic status (most men don't care about this), and sometimes sexual openness.
There is a whole separate argument to be made for bodycount but I'm tired and don't care enough.
[–]Peelfest2016 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I dunno man. I think women are at their most attractive between 35-45. Younger than 25 look like they could be my high school students. Fuckin yuck.
[–]Live-Ad-6309 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Individual variation are why statistics exist. And the statistics are on my side, the vast majority of men agree with my assessment according to said statistics.
[–]kathruins 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm more attracted to women above 25. attraction isnt as simple as reproduction capabilities---gay peoples' existence negates that theory. older women generally have stronger personalities, which is a plus. you like younger women. okay good for you. that's not everyone.
[–]Live-Ad-6309 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Naturally exceptions exist. They however do not change the rule.
[–]kathruins 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
weird. everyone I chill with is an exception. who made this rule you speak of? do you know how accurate it is? sounds like pseudoscience to me. any studies you can link me?
believe it or not, most people understand there is value outside of outer appearance. not everyone lives their lives following their boners. many people find young women insufferable.
[–]Bdog5k 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well, that’s true so…
[–]kathruins 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
you think people are objects that lose value? no wonder you need this place.
I don’t. Why do you think I make fun of the people here?
Also, it depends on how much they objectify themselves. They CAN just be itemized, our society is commodifying everything. Being a hoe rolls with it.
[–]Kokadison 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Just say you’re a misogynist, it’s easier.
[–]Kokadison 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Oh so this isn’t the first time you’ve been called out… not surprising lmao
[–]Kokadison 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😂 okay bud
[+]ComfortExtension7065 -7 points-6 points-5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
fax mysogyny is supposed to be a powerful word for mf hatred, and then these feminists are like "you have an opinion against women which means we cant control you, your a mysogynist" but then again this is the internet and gender wars dont even really exist in real life
[–]repfive305-1 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Oh yeah my b I didn’t read that part
[–]CometAzur42069 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
dating an 18 year old is different than a 22 year old. they're not the same.
[–]Live-Ad-6309 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Meh. They're usually very similar. Especially in countries where it's common to move out at 16-17y. Most girls haven't left the "hot girl party phase" by the time they're 22. And most girls are still in college at that time.
[–]CometAzur42069 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
That is a weird way to diffrentiate. People party into their late 20s that doesnt mean a 27 year old is the same as an 18 year old. Your barometer for different isnt exactly nuanced.
[–]Bdog5k 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Yours ain’t either
[–]CometAzur42069 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
What is my barometer? Since I never stated it, I guess you read my mind.
[–]Bdog5k 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Just learn the word “ barometer”? Lmao
Just asserting their is some vast difference between 18 and 22yos was enough.
[–]CometAzur42069 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Ok maybe go ahead and add something to this worthless back and forth then
[–]Bdog5k1 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I doubt you would become more reasonable.
How many people do you think go through profilic life changes from drinking in high school to drinking in college?
Not to say that nobody matures, but for most? College is second high school. But if you want to get down to it, some people grow up earlier.
[–]CometAzur420691 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Why are you measuring it by DRINKING? I said they BOTH do it. Your reading comprehension is poor which is why you struggle.
18 years olds have many things they wouldnt have done. You
4 fewer years of life they havent experienced when they already experienced little.
4 fewer years of being legally adult
4 fewer years of living on their own
22 year olds often finished their undergrad or are close so they will start or have started to think about their careers and long term life goals
Idk how you read my post where I clearly wrote I am not talking about drinking or partying then say “listen you dont know shit about how they drink or party”.
Also nowhere do I write they need to make prolific life changes in 4 years but everyone changes to degrees in those years not their fundamental values but that chance of change is a lot higher when you got 4 extra years to change…now please dont reply, since you are a clown and cant even comprehend the text but get mad.
The irony in you calling my reading comprehension bad.... I didn't measure shit by drinking mongol. My point is that some goober that parties and drinks is the same at 18 or 22.
Not all life experience is "productive" or growth. Some people stagnate, some degenerate.
What does this do
Most people aren't moving out at 18, do you live in the usa? Are you fucking kidding? You are a dummy....
Yea, and 18 year olds are thinking about college. Many college students speak of not knowing wtf they are doing. Again, its no different.
I didn't say you said that, holy fuck you are dense. It's actually amazing how ridiculous the shit you say is. Sure they CAN change, so how does that make a 22 fuckable opposed to an 18 year old not. What magical thing changes? THATS the point.
This isnt worth parsing over. Obviously you have a bone to pick since your ex didnt change like you hoped. Too bad dude.
Yea, your point was trash. Not much to it.
[–]DecapitatedApple 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The way you view things is vastly different though. I’m 22 and I look at freshman as children now, like I can’t imagine wanting them
[–]Bdog5k 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude, the Reddit hivemind is real
[–]nyamina 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Somebody is telling on themself.
So you're saying commenting about your beliefs means you probably take action on those beliefs? Wild.
[–]kathruins 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i dont care because its not my business and happens all the time. im just saying its going to be far from an equal partnership. for that reason, it gives a lot of people creep vibes. do whatever you want though.
[–]Kokadison -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
IM NOT A DUDE LMAOOOOO
[–]mugatucrazypills -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm almost sure the governing matriarchy will pass more explicit laws against age gap relationships at some point even when both parties are past the age of consent and there's no relationship of authority ( at least when the male is older).
In reality, there should probably be protective rules the other way around.
[–]Bunnybunrose 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most valid comment I've seen on this sub so far.
[–]Kokadison 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Definitely* and I was never in that subreddit lmao, I’m in a happy relationship. I joined this one to try and learn things to help with my relationship but it’s all just a bunch of dude bros giving poor advice to other dude bros.
[–]mugatucrazypills 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You should not approach any women under 26 at any age. Especially if they are enthusiastic, interesting or attractive or have their stuff together. You should allow college chad and workplace chad to have their way with them and pick them up as bitter broken beta seekers as they pass 30.
/s
[–]Live-Ad-6309 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Your assumption of how young women act doesn't match my experiences at all. They usually aren't any more timid/submissive than the older ones. If anything, many of them are more self centered and arrogant.
[–]earsurgery9 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this!! People are so funny on reddit, man. Some super hot 18 year old is NOT gonna be 'manipulated' into sex or 'persuaded' to bang some guy she's not attracted too just because he's older as is always the assumption on reddit. Much more likely is she'll just give him a brutal rejection lol. Girls this age have like the highest SMV, and nowadays, they know it!!
[–]kirbith3000 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You just said "hookups are a-ok" and "their brains aren't developed" in the same comment. That's a little weird
[–]TuckerTheCuckFucker 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He’s talking about emotional maturity.
He’s saying you don’t want to be in a LTR with an emotionally immature woman with no life experience, but that doesn’t mean you can’t show them a good time
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[–]desal 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
what kinda person would you be with that would tell their current person they don't want to go on vacations because they already been there?
[–]15000Woolongs 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No I’ve already been there.
Don’t talk to this person, they don’t know how to travel.
I know it’s great
Sounds like they would love to go again!
No we are traveling, see you next month.
What? Why are you still talking to them then?
[+]Bdog5k -35 points-34 points-33 points 3 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Holy fuck this is trash.
“ you can fuck her but dating is sketch” LMAOOO, you are just as bad.
Dudes shouldn’t want used up girls, but I get the irony. Most dudes here can’t get laid, but wish they could be the douche with serial ONS.
[–]kathruins -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
you think women actually become lesser humans for having sex? how could you possibly judge someone for age gap sex if that were the case. you aint making sense.
[–]Bdog5k 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Sex with lots of partners, yes.
I don’t for the most part, actually.
[–]kathruins 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
may i ask your reasoning? if you have to compare women to an object, you already lost. i would love to hear someone's actual reasoning.
Because it ruins the sanctity of her body and relationships, it all becomes cheaper, pair bonding issues, Sti potentially, long list.
The fact you keep parroting that and the bird brain is really painting a picture.
What’s YOUR reasoning?
[–]kathruins 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
human beings are human beings and our pasts dont magically taint our futures. "sanctity" sounds religious. im not that. there is nothing sacred about physical bodies or sex. intimacy is a beautiful thing that is not weakened by other intimate encounters. STI risk is real, but most arent life threatening. half the people here fuck whatever without even asking about STD so its likely yall are passing them around. I have herpes and have no problems getting laid (obviously i tell the people im sleeping with before any contact). STI risk level is up to you, but you can simply ask for someone to get tested. body count has nothing to do with it. bonding issues sounds like some animal biology shit. do you have any scientific sources for your claims? mine are negations, so there is nothing to prove.
I'll add that my body count is high. my FWBs are very low and they struggle with intimacy and bonding more than me. people are all very different.
Oh boy, you are a perfect example of why you want to avoid high body count woman.
I’m not totally religious either, but clearly you hold nothing sacred, have herpes ( this is perfect), are totally cool with people fucking whatever, body count DOES have to do with it, as if we aren’t animals? Is that a joke?
This seems about your reading level: https://psiloveyou.xyz/what-happens-to-your-brain-after-having-too-much-casual-sex-41a206c7f303
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28010123/
These are all related but might not tie in exactly. Most studies are sex to well being. I’m not sure how you are going to scientifically measure casual sex correlation to poor values? Didn’t quite think that through did you?
You didn’t have to say that. I can tell.
[–]kathruins 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
damn. you seem to hold a high animosity toward people with STDs. mine doesn't affect you at all. get over it. you cant make me feel bad for repeating information i already gave you. 80% of the world has some form of herpes. you can present facts without getting so emotional about it.
I said body count has nothing to do with STD status. the only way to know someone's status is to get tested. if you rely on body count alone, you're gonna end up with something. it sounds like you don't get laid anyway, so it's nothing to worry about. I actually hold intimacy in every form incredibly sacred.
I'm wondering if you feel the same way about men who sleep with many women? I'm also curious as to whether you watch porn. it's starting to reek of hypocrisy in here.
didn't think what through? I told you I can't prove a negative. I'm asking you to provide proof that sex with multiple people has negative outcomes. an article about teenagers is one I'll disregard because they are vastly different from adults, but I do appreciate a scientific approach, kind of like I asked for.
I'll have to check out the other article tomorrow. i dont have the time to fact check all of that right now. regardless, I think we're done here. it's obvious all you want to do is hurl insults. we were having a great convo until you realized I was one of the lesser humans we were discussing. also pretty weird how i only became a woman once i said i have a high body count. fix your shit, weirdo. your misogyny is showing.
[–]Bdog5k 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I don't have animosity against people with stds but that demographic has significant overlap with the one I actually dislike, the ones that treat sex really casually.
The higher the body count, the more likely they are to have std's. Pretty simple. LMAOOOOOOOOO claiming holding sex as sacred with a high body count is sacrilegious.
Oh, the " you haven't fucked enough holes to matter" insult.
I don't think it affects men as badly, but yes I do feel the same way.
I don't like porn, its generally repulsive. Also being a save for marriage type of guy, its a bit tough. The other option is worse.
I didn't bother looking that hard, I knew you wouldn't like what I sent for that simple reason. I'm not asking you to prove a negative, i'm just saying the likely hood of their being a study on EXACTLY what I was looking for is very very low.
I don't think you fully understand. Having sex with lots of people IS a negative outcome in itself.
It is pretty hard to discuss with an offender defending offences. Also, if someone else is arguing with me while this is certainly lesser its hard to totally flip tones. I could have been more reserved.
Was I right?
[–]kathruins1 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
sex is not the same as intimacy. while that's true, its really just a personal judgement. if you want to avoid STDs, both people have to get tested. i shouldn't have to explain how people can get STD from being with one person. also note that you assumed i got mine from casual sex; i did not.
i dont know what youre doing on this subreddit if its not to pick up women. seems like youre just here to spread archiac ideas. pick up game doesnt seem like a good method for two virgins to find eachother and marry.
weird assumption to make since i explicitly stated the opposite. i'm very interested in where people like you get these far fetched ideas. if there were a scientific basis for it, I'm all ears. you seem to assume i'm anti-intellectual and lazy. fucking anything that moves is not healthy, but being hypersexual does not automatically make a person lesser. it doesn't ruin their future or make them bad or stupid. im guessing you also hate addicts and people with mental illness. anyone who doesnt handle life exactly 100% just like you would is the enemy, lazy, stupid, and worthless. that's the problem with people these days. you can have your opinions about sex being sacred but labeling everyone who thinks differently all these horrible things is really sad. you can't say you don't. look at how this conversation went. you have tried to humiliate/punish me for information i voluntarily offered. its very odd.
right about what? you keep making assertions with nothing to back them up. those are just opinions. i have no idea how having sex with several people would be an offense. people have bodily autonomy for christ's sake. we disagree. that's okay, but your attitude around those opinions are going to keep you from forming relationships with anyone but religious fundamentalists.
Sex isn't intimacy, BUT sex SHOULD be intimate. Don't matter, the majority of std's aren't getting passed around in marriages.
Yea I prob followed this sub years ago thinking it would be more useful and ignored it. It's definitely pretty garbage.
What assumption? You know what's funny? Denying being anti intellectual without being able to consider something that's not stamped with a " science approved" on it from an " authority".
Someone can be hypersexual idc, so long as they aren't being a hoe. You can be married and fuck a lot. It doesn't give them down syndrome but it can effect them in other ways.
Where did you pull this from? lmao. I don't like it when they use it as an excuse to pull shit. I tend to be addictive and mental illness runs in the family; its not something to accept its something to transcend. Being lazy, stupid, worthless is the enemy, many people give into that. Of course I'll label people, why not give them something they have earned? Does turning yourself in drop the charges?
Being a woman.
People have bodily autonomy like they have the free will to commit crime. Doesn't mean any choice is correct.
Nothing to back them up? I couldn't prove to you that murder is bad without a "study". Science doesn't answer questions like " how should we live?", you asking me to give you that says a lot.
It would be truly unfortunate if the only people that have my degree of standards are religious fundamentalists. I'd like to think people try to be good without god breathing down their neck.
sex should be a crime. got it. weirdo.
Hoes mad.
[+]cyrusol -11 points-10 points-9 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Dudes shouldn’t want used up girls
With just that one statement you remove all accountability from the women who partake in hookups or ONS. As if they were made to do it. No, they are not, if they want to engage in that sort of activity you don't get to blame men for it. You just have to accept it.
[–]Bdog5k -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
?
Where did you get that I didn’t hold woman accountable lmao
[+]cyrusol -8 points-7 points-6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As if "dudes" were responsible for it.
[–]JuliustheWise -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was thinking of making my own post for advice, but I was myself curious and concerned what the attitude of this subreddit is. I’ve gotten the vibe there can be a lot of toxicity in this kind of community
So if you could elaborate more of what I should look out for on this subrreditt that would be great
I agree with you, I have a lot of kinks, I’m a switch but i lean towards dom, so i definitely like subbing girls, age difference too I would Kirk to be with older women we well, I like subby girls, but as you said I like girls who are assertive and will stand up for themselves and be forth right and honest with me, they can be subby in role play not passive IRL
Partly kinky, but also the fact that I want to go back to school and fit in and be able to hook up with my fellow students and peers, plus I was bullied for looking young, I want the last laugh and to make up for lost time, at least having the option of being with younger women
In general I have a lot of trouble with this, and for example I find the idea of “alpha male” paradoxical, I’m a very emotional man, I have a lot of empathy and am very sensitive that’s who I am, to change who I am and act more “tough” and “jerk” and “alpha” I’d be changing who I am I feel to try and attract woman, isn’t that what a “beta male” would too, try to suplicate and sacrifice their identity?
So I guess in general I just have a lot of questions and confusion and I would want to make sure i don’t get toxic advice
[–]sourpatchdadee -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
brains aren’t developed
Brains don’t finish developing past 30 and arguably never. Is dating a 29 year old pedophilia now?
[+]15000Woolongs -16 points-15 points-14 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Whenever I see an older man dating a younger woman I think, “The sex is probably good, but she’s probably as dumb as a bag of rocks.”
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[–]ScuzeRude 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Lol at “less baggage.” Have you ever met a 22-year-old girl? They’re in the prime of their baggage/drama/meltdown/stick-your-dick-in-crazy period of life. It’s actually not fun.
Emotional maturity is sexy.
[–]ScuzeRude -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You can’t become good at anything without failing at it first. I find wisdom, nuance, subtlety, grace, poise and confidence to be so attractive. It is also my experience that older women are more mature, know what they’re looking for, and therefore are actually far more selective than younger women. Which is completely fair— you’re supposed to sleep around when you’re young. But the picture you’re trying so hard to paint is really just revealing that you don’t have enough experience to weigh in on the matter with any real accuracy.
Baggage” is a mindset— you carry your own into this conversation, for example.
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[–]ScuzeRude -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Honestly, you do you. If what gets your dick hard is reinforcing PUA psychobabble to yourself, nothing I say is gonna change that. I’d argue that your viewpoints—which aren’t even actually yours—have practically nothing to do with firsthand, real life experience and everything to do with attempting to build a sense of power for yourself by structuring your worldview in a limiting-but-riskless way: the more options you get encouraged to write off preemptively, the more that guy who’s selling you whatever book or YouTube subscription you learned all this crap from can assure you that “the system works.” You feel powerful because you’re emboldened to think you’re the one doing the judging, when it will always be the female of the species who are tasked with natural selection. Your dick can get hard for whatever it wants but you’re not in an evolutionary position to judge anything— your sex life will boil down to taking what you can get and you know it.
I’m also speculating here, but I’m gonna go ahead and guess that you’re fairly young yourself. In which case, you should be attracted to people relatively within your own age range and maturity level. You have no idea how that will play out in your future, though, so I’d be wary about cementing too much of this toxic propaganda into the jello mold of your young man’s brain at this point. When you’re 35 and you want a hot, intelligent 35-year-old woman, she’s not going to find this bullshit attractive. Think ahead and update your narrative now.
But I respectfully disagree that younger girls are more fun, less damaged, or more faithful. It’s like trying to explain Umami to someone who will only eat buttered spaghetti, but it’s not my place to try to convince you.
[–]omega05 111 points112 points113 points 3 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link
Do what you want but 18 personally is too young for me. Maybe try 21 and up.
[–]Cotrd_Gram 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I refuse to even consider dating anyone under 21 just for alcohol reasons. You cant even go out to a bar or club with them. They are also very immature.
[–]kathruins 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
that's how i view it as well. i guess it works a little differently across the pond.
[–]chonglang_gaoshou -5 points-4 points-3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
US problem, I’ve asked many 19 year olds to bars here in Canada.
[–]Live-Ad-6309 -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
21y olds aren't any more mature. I've seen no notable consistent differences in maturity from 18-21.
[–]altered_state 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
I already yeeted myself out of a potential relationship when I found out she was 23 (I’m 28). This thread is mind-boggling.
[–]mlo519 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why? That’s not that big of an age diff
[–]Live-Ad-6309 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He drank too much coolaid and cock blocked himself for it. 5 years is not even an exceptional age gap. It's borderline average.
[–]CometAzur42069 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Most dudes here are so fucking delusional and it's hilarious how they're giving each other wrong advice but hyping it up.
[–]Icy_Rub1839 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Ironic.
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[–]Icy_Rub1839 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My thread never got removed, I deleted it.
Ah, as embarrassing as being "subhuman" and ugly?
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[–]Icy_Rub1839 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also, you seem to contradict yourself a lot too.
If I'm ugly then there is no hope. That's a fact. No amount of silly self improvement can make me attractive to a woman lol.
Ugly means ugly to everyone in the world.
[–]ImaginaryList174 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you!! I was like is everyone in here fucking serious telling a 28 year old to fuck an 18 year old? Gross. 22/23 would be the absolute limit for me to consider ok if my 28 year old brother brought a younger girl home but even then I dunno.
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[+]mxlch999 -10 points-9 points-8 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Same high body count its yikes
[–]Icy-Flan3459 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Ok so lie about my body count to any potential men who seem like relationship material i may meet.. thanks for the advice. (im not being sarcastic lol)
[–]kathruins 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
nah, adults dont actually talk about body counts. you have nothing to worry about.
[–]kathruins 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
oh I'll shout it from the rooftops; who cares. but no one has asked since i was like 20. in fact I brought it up for a few years after that, but it came off as childish.
[+]mxlch999 -6 points-5 points-4 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Omg noo , lies are even worst !!!
[–]Saurid 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You are the reason people would need to lie about stuff likes that yikes. Look at a mirror man.
[–]KingsVictory19 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why not just own it and move on? So should men lie about their income levels? They already lie about their height. They get made fun of for doing so. But it’s bad for us men to judge based on body count?
[–]Saurid 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The first is as bad as the second. A man shouldn't lie about their salary, but it's also not a equal statistic. One shoes how much you can contribute in a relationship financially. The Bodycount just shows how much you sleep around. It can be indicative of problematic behavior yes in rare edge cases, but unlike salary in general it doesn't show how much you can contribute in a relationship just your experience which also just so happen to rise with age.
Body count is judging people for their fun, failed relationships and just how they live, salary just shows if you can help build the live a women or man wants. It's bad to judge you by it, but it's a statistic that matters for buying a house, having children and financial stability in the near and late future, as such it sadly matters for a very long term relationship especially if you yourself aren't also of big means (it shouldn't be a deciding factor but it can be depending on what you want from live and how you want to live).
[–]mxlch999 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tf you talking about its all preference ?!
[–]JohnnyLazer17 -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s what you got out of that? No, definitely not. Keep it a buck and you weed out the dweebs ☝️
[–]r1bb1tTheFrog 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed
[–]clutchutch 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Too young for cocktails, too young for…well you get it
[–]nobody_810 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would not care that much what the anti social media has to say. I you want to try it just do it. But be aware that you might not be compatible with that age group. Maybe yes maybe no. Only you can find out.
[–]Hey-kittikitty 21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you want a real relationship 18 is too young. 24-32 would give you the most compatibility.
[–]WashImaginary2898 98 points99 points100 points 3 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
Brother fuck what social media says. It's literally all rotting our entire society. It's a fact, not an opinion that women prefer older guys. I'm 36 and don't date girls older than 24 - 27. You think I'm bad? Look at Leo Di Caprio. My guy literally dates girls until they're 25 and then just moves to the next one. Work on yourself. Everything else falls into place.
[–]Bandit_Beamish 28 points29 points30 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol Leo got that shit down pat
[–]B377Y -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn, I always thought it was “packed”. Waddya know
[–]jaypb182 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Based. The whole age gap shaming is bullshit.
[–]TuckerTheCuckFucker 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We call that r/WhiteKnighting lol
[–]Antonio_N91-2 points 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
*Insert meme*
- I see you're a man of culture as well.
[–]mourningbreakfastt 3 years ago [recovered] (39 children) | Copy Link
I’m a 24 yr old female and my boyfriend is 42. Met on OLD when I was 23, and what was supposed to be a one night stand to help me get over my previous guy (who was 36), turned into the most incredible relationship I could imagine. Although I’ve only one other relationship to compare this to, we’ll have been together a year next month and I love him more than I could put into words, and while I can’t see myself with anyone but him, I don’t know what the future holds but I know I will most likely never be attracted to anyone around my age again.
I guess what i’m saying is go for it because at worst it could be a really awesome one night stand, and at best you could form a really awesome relationship.
[–]desal 30 points31 points32 points 3 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
"never be attracted to anyone around my age again" this might change as you get older. I don't know if you will be attracted to 60 year olds when you're 40, but you might be.
[–]Disastrous_Schedule8 25 points26 points27 points 3 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link
It's all about fitness. I know some 60 year old in my gym that can sling some weights. Forget about a Silver fox. These guys are direwolves and at 39 I get hit on by more women in their early 20s than I ever did in my 20s. (Most men don't know but you go through a second mini puberty in your late 20 & early 30s this is when you actually hit homeostasis... When you are physically and mentally fully grown)
I think the male to female age compatibility metric is about 20 years assuming they are both healthy. 15 to 20 year age gap was the norm globally until the World Wars created a male vacuum which then eliminated age gap dating. Most Analysis of Romantic literature & literature from before the 1950 put almost all the men at 10 to 15 years older than their female counter parts. (Romeo & Mr. Darcy both were far older than the female leads)
So age Gap is the norm & age parity is not historically.
[–]avalanche_36 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have the same experience as a late 30's jacked guy. The same young girls that never gave me a second look in my early 20's stare at me now.
[–]desal 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
makes sense. now that I think about it I don't know why I said those numbers as it does sound normal.
[–]Disastrous_Schedule8 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
That's why I agree with the 20/80 split for men between the age of 18 - 30 (20 percent focus on girls 80 percent focus on building yourself) 50/50 split from (30 - 40). If your not married by 40 and want to be then a 20/80 split for trying to start a family and finding a compatible partner.You will find that alignment works pretty well at each one of those age markers.
Speaking from personal experience I have found that I typically I am physically attracted to women that are 10 - 15 years younger than me no more than that. So 25 to 30 and those women are also the ones I seem to naturally attract the most. Most women my age are looking older than me. There is an element of insecurity I have found in many women when thier partners look younger & fitter than them and healthy older men typically look younger than their female counter parts. Many women seem to actively try to sabotage the relationship. The "Screw him before he screws me" mentality. I don't really see that when I age gap dating. Because the man is always 20 years ahead of his partner so they hit the same attraction levels at the same time.
I think many women like having sex with equal or younger guys but they don't really want LTRs and children with them.
( This only works as long as you meet the basic requirements of staying fit)
[–]Which_Elk_5259 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
so you mean i get jacked and girls will go crazy for me?
[–]avalanche_36 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
correct.
[–]Which_Elk_5259 -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
prior experience says no
[–]avalanche_36 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
soft
[–]Twosidesofthesame 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Getting jacked ain’t the only thing tho
[–]mugatucrazypills 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
get jacked and see what happens!
[–]Twosidesofthesame 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m working on it I’m about to workout rn I’m stretching rn
[–]Which_Elk_5259 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
dont write that here , getting fit is the only hope for these personality less incels
[–]mourningbreakfastt 3 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
I mean I could name a few 60 year olds right now that I’d drop my panties for
[–]ifuckedyourgf -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How about Bernard Arnault? He's 73.
[–]GeorgeKaplanIsReal 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You’d be surprised. My mindset is as long as everybody is consenting, go for it.
[–]cronasminate 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Wait will she's 90 tryna date 110 year olds as her target.
[–]desal 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
the adult diapers turn her on
[–]mugatucrazypills -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When you're young, it's all filet steak, but as the years go by, you have to move on to the cheap cuts. Which is fine with me, because I like those. More flavorful, or so they say. .
[–]ContWord2346 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Which OLD site ?
[–]ContWord2346 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’ve been hearing people are having a lot more success with Hinge actually.
[–]A_Rabid_Doge -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Lmao sorry but it's highly unlikely that he is serious with you.
[–]Disastrous_Schedule8 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yeah not true. I think it's same for women of all age. If he doesn't like your personality it's just fun but if he likes the way you think it can be alot more.
The major issue with age gap is ignorance to the history of most customs prior to the 1900s.WWI & The Great Influenza pandemic of 1918 & The Great Depression & WWII broke a ton of social norms. That was a ton of dead people so major governments world wide start pushing age parity dating to rebuild the population. Also young soldier without wives is a recipe for revolution. So getting these guys married was top priority.
You also have to remember that was the advent of mass media so age parity was really pushed on TV. Since the market for that media was a younger crowd. This means that women and men in the West were exposed to age parity relationships before anything else even though the dynamic they saw on TV was more akin to Age Gap couples. (Respect and leadership in any relationship is supposed to coming from age and experience vs gender...it's no surprise Western women revolted a generation later.)
[–]Disastrous_Schedule8 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
The cascading effect of causality is so interesting. Lol bit of a history nerd🤓.
Also a great argument to make to your parents if they decide to give you pushback. This was absolutely the norm before WWI. This usually triggers the ",Oh yeah nanna was XX years younger than paps"
[–]Disastrous_Schedule8 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Atleast at 14 you won't have to really be a mum, just a buddy....(that bangs her dad😅😂😂).
But good for you.
The modern over emphasis on Age parity dating & relationship has caused more trouble than society even knows. There is so much pressure on men to be more than they should be at a young age and women are told to trust what biologically looks & feels like a boy with their livelihood. I Looked at my pictures from 10 years ago at 29. I looked like a boy. One of my relationships was actually ruined because a store clerk thought the girl I was dating who was my exact age (I was 1 day older than her) was my mum. Shattered her confidence, she had developed early and as a man I was an extremely late bloomer. It's wasnt until I was 30 that I started getting attention from women who were age appropriate (My 75 yo dad also looks like 45 but that beyond the point) I was definitely and adult, fighting in wars and managing a household but the common compliant was I was too youthful. If I was allowed to mature on my own I wouldnt be in same situation as your guy is. Gen X, Millennial, Xenial guys and girls need to be given some grace because we were given crap info & I think we are in the middle of a rediculous course correction from what was a crazy hundred year stint of crazy behaviors & ideas (2 World Wars should tell how rediculous the 1900s were)
[–]DocDiggler 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I'm about the same age as your BF. Your post gave me hope I can find someone. Thanks for sharing your story.
[–]DocDiggler 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Very true, and I appreciate the insight you're giving on dating an older guy.
My fear is a younger woman won't find me attractive or valuable as an older guy. But what you've said gives me optimism that things could work out.
I'm not specifically looking for younger women but it seems the only interest I get comes from women in their 20s. I just never go for it because of my beliefs in how happy I could make a younger woman.
But I guess we're all human afterall and we all want different things.
[–]DocDiggler 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
most women in their 20’s can’t STAND men in their 20’s
Can you elaborate further on that? I do know some women specifically seek out age gap relationships. I just want to get your opinion.
If anything it’s me who gets insecure at times being that my life doesn’t seem as “put together” as his sometimes
Hmmm. I guess I really never thought about that from a female perspective.
[–]DocDiggler 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh it makes perfect sense. I guess I got more things going for me than I give myself credit for haha. Thanks for the reply. It definitely helps my outlook on dating prospects and inner beliefs to get your feedback. :)
[–]Kokadison 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Me and my boyfriend have a sizeable age gap (F24, M31) and we’ve been together for 5 years now, just bought a condo together. You’ll be fine, you might not get along with all of them but it’s not a definitive thing.
[–]avalanche_36 -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I wouldnt remotely call that sizeable.
[–]Kokadison 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I have had plenty of people tell me that the age difference is concerning etc etc and I just ignored em. We’re 7.5 years apart in age. Just cuz it’s not double digits doesn’t mean it’s not something that other people look down on.
[–]DocDiggler 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
What would you say are the reasons the age gap works for the both of you and why the relationship is doing well enough to get a condo together?
Congratz on 5 years as well.
[–]Kokadison 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Thanks!
Honestly it’s mostly that we just have a lot in common. We have a lot of similar interests and have the same goals for life, we’re both goofy as hell, and other things. We did have a few issues in the beginning of our relationship but it wasn’t necessarily entirely because of our age gap imo but it might have contributed, I’m not 100% sure. We’ve gotten through those and have a really strong relationship. We also just have REALLY strong communication, that has never been a problem in our relationship.
Our age gap genuinely does not change our relationship. If we were the same age we would still go well together as a couple.
[–]DocDiggler 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for the in depth reply.
So I guess it's like any other relationship then. You have to find someone you have things in common with and age isn't a factor unless you let it be one.
Would you say you were both in the same spot developmentally when you both met? I have a theory that relationships may work out if both parties are essentially at the same starting point when couples first get together. That way, there isn't really as much of a power dynamic to deal with early on where a man might act more paternal to their younger partner. I'm talking about age gap relationships, obviously.
[–]Kokadison 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So, I’m a pretty laid back and chill person and have always been told I act older than I actually am, so in the sense of mentality I think we were at least pretty close to one another. But when you look at where we were in our lives, that was wildly different. At the time I was about a year or two into college when I met him, and he has been graduated from college for quite sometime. I also was still living with my parents while he had his own place.
[–]DocDiggler 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah that still fits pretty close to my theory. I was more talking about buying your first home, or having a child. Income can be a factor but I feel like education offsets that as well. But it does sound like you were both on the same life path but he was just further ahead.
Thanks for your input, it was much appreciated.
Yea I mean he hadn’t bought a place before we were together, and he doesn’t have any kids, so those things are/will be firsts for both of us at the same time.
Please tell them to go fuck themselves on my behalf.
Some of this stems from them crab-bucketing and starting to realize how messed up they are relative to your near-ideal age placement.
Although this not the topic of this forum you are well positioned to start a family and/or household in a few years as you so choose. You have fertility and your partner has resources and experiences and likely fertility without being so old as to be unable to keep up as things go on.
Having a baby before you leave your 20s is ideal for a woman. The nation is full of angry 38 year old screaming at their fertility doctors screaming that their fav. celebrity did it at 40.
[–]creativedave73 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
There's not much of an age difference between 18 and 28. However, there might be a maturity issue. I'm 48 and I like women who are close in age to me. An 18 year old is too close in age to my own daughter. I choose to be a mentor to girls that young.
I choose to be a mentor to girls that young.
Hey me too send them my way and I’ll mentor them on how to properly have sex 😂
[–]RokuroMonsuta 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
honest question, because I am 26 so would be interested.
as a 48 year old male, what do you find more physically attractive, women in the age range of 18-25, or women closer to your age?
from my understanding of biology, we always find women in the ages 18-25 more attractive due to fertility.
[–]creativedave73 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I find women closer in age to me more attractive. Women/girls in the 18-25 range usually lack maturity and I feel like they're my daughters. I might find them physically attractive, but that's not enough for me. I'm certainly not thinking about fertility. I don't want any more children! My daughter is enough!
[–]RokuroMonsuta 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's true,
I would be the same at that age.
I agree, just because a younger woman is more physically attractive doesn't mean it would make for a better relationship.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Having spent time with someone 30 years younger than me while also seeing someone of my own age at the same time (both were mutually agreed open relationships), there were differences between the two… conversationally and sexually.
The age gap made for interesting and engaging conversations because our age-based perspectives were different. The closer aged conversations were as well but because our perspectives were more similar. Both had equal value but for different reasons.
Sexually, the younger woman was capable of getting into some really fun positions, her energy was insatiable and she very much liked experiencing what 30 years of an older guy’s experience can be like. Sex with the woman my age was just as much fun in that it was based on her own 30 years of experience, she knew what she liked, had no issue is asking for it and knew that what we did together was good fun. The younger woman was introduced to how it should be done. The older knew it already and appreciated it.
How all of this relates to your comment? I agree with your last paragraph. Attraction is relative. What makes for a better relationship is an attraction to who they are as much as or more than what they look like. Both were sexy af (inside and out) but for different reasons, all of which were excellent.
[–]desal -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
mentor them, they can't even talk to them if they won't have sex with them.
[–]NinetailsDestruction 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Stay from away 18-19. They don’t know what they’re doing.
[–]sourpatchdadee 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah leave them to the other 18 year old guys that also don’t know what they’re doing /s.
Half the reason girls are so emotionally messed up in their mid 20s and 30s is because they spend years dating immature, horny men their same ages that mess them up.
[–]NinetailsDestruction -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The damage done by older men to young men is so much worse and greater than the damage done by men their age. Men their age are attractive and youthful of them; and they aren’t using them for their youth unlike older men.
[–]sourpatchdadee 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
older men to young men
There is no talk in the OPs post about men doing things to other men. Maybe you mean women?
[–]NinetailsDestruction 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah my bad my thumbs and brain didn’t work together
[–]comfortablynumbxo 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
As a 28 year old woman, dating an 18 year old or anyone below the age of 22-23 is unthinkable to me. 10 years is a huge gap especially when you’re talking about girls who are still ternagers
[–]putcoolusernamehere 29 points30 points31 points 3 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link
I’m personally at the point where I (26) shamelessly am willing to go for 18 year olds. The dating market out here is really tough for young men, especially ones who aren’t yet very successful or fit (working on both, but it’s a long term process). I’m basically at the point where I just take what I can get. If the demographic of woman who’s most receptive to me is 18-20 college girls, that’s who I’ll go for.
I’ve learned to just stop giving a fuck what society thinks about it. Mark Manson talks about this concept in his book The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck. Sometimes there are things in life that are so important to your happiness and purpose, that you got to just learn to stop giving a fuck about what society thinks, and embrace the embarrassment or social repercussions that might come your way. And for me, having companionship is one of those things essential enough to me to say “fuck you society, I’d rather be with this (legal aged) girl you perceive to be too young for me than be alone.”
It’s a real bs double standard. Girls are told their whole life it’s ok to be into older dudes because they are more mature than the dudes their age, but it’s almost a cancellable statement to tell dudes it’s ok to be into younger girls because they are less mature than girls their age. If the 26 year old girls all want the 29-34 year old guys with careers, houses, and 6 packs, why can’t the 26 year old guys want the 18-23 girls who also don’t have their shit together, and are also inexperienced romantically, and hence are on a more level mental ground?
I was discussing this with a friend recently, and we came to the conclusion that it’s almost impossible for guys 23-29 to date with much success unless they are way ahead of the curve in career and fitness. We aren’t yet develop enough for the girls our age who want a house, kids, and stability, but we are relentlessly shamed for going for younger girls who just want a fun dude to spend time with while they try to get their shit together. It’s a sickening age to be, the mid 20s suck. However, we also came to the conclusion that once you hit around 30 (or whatever age you truly get all that shit together), you start to really swim in options and be able to attract a quality partner. The 20s are to the sacrifice we have to make to for 30 year old us to have a high SMV.
[–]Certifiably_Quirky 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Most women are getting married and having kids in their 30's actually, much older than their parents. And since it's less frowned upon nowadays for women to hookup with men, that's what they do in their 20's. I know a lot of mid-20's women who just focus on their careers, brunch and hookups.
And also, as a woman I was told that if an older guy tries to get with you, he's probably trying to groom you and that women his age don't put up with his shit and that's why he is going out with younger less developed women. I don't think it's predatory to date women younger than you but when you're younger, no one actually encourages girls to go after older guys. You just go after guys in your classes or coworker or a dating app. So, from my experience, I'm not sure I agree with your analysis.
But op honestly, you might honestly get flack, but if you are into someone and they are into you, it's all consensual, then go for it.
[–]Live-Ad-6309 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think its entirely a myth. The claim that younger women are more vulnerable to being "manipulated". I don't see a basis in reality for it. It's the older women who are easy. They're the ones desperate enough to "put up with shit".
Younger women have so many options that many, even most of them chew up men for breakfast and feel no remorse for the trail of victims. They have absolutely no reason to put up with shit.
Fr young girls are way harder to sleep with ime because they think they are gods gift.
Then around 26-27, they gain some weight or notice a wrinkle in the mirror and realize they’re maybe not the hot shit they once were
They then usually get serious about finding a partner for a little bit before eventually realizing that trying to force it isn’t going to make it happen faster so they may as well hang out, hook up, and have a li’l fun with some guys
[–]Hermit41 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Man this 🙌🏾 you right, tbh that’s one thing I suffer with I give too many fucks and it’s my weak point I am grinding on my fitness and finances and seeing progress but coming from a religious background I’ve always given too much care of others and what they think of me. Really wish I could just stop caring definitely working on it. This was on point tho
[–]putcoolusernamehere 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Religion fucked me up pretty bad in college too. Would be so much more experienced and happy if I had lost my religion at a younger age and just started enjoying life for what it is.
[–]r1bb1tTheFrog 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just grind away buddy. Once you hit early-mid 30’s, you’re brain will naturally start caring. Girls will also start showing more interest.
[–]mookyvon 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep you hit the nail right on the head. Women’s peak SMV goes from 18-25 while a man’s is 28+. Men below 28 are functionally invisible in the dating world. Why wouldn’t men in their peak also try to date women in their peak. It’s just societal brainwashing, mostly from older post wall women who fucked around in their 20s and want to shame older men into taking them seriously.
almost impossible for guys 23-29 to date with much success?
mid20s suck?
idk m8
[–]putcoolusernamehere 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I’ll qualify that with “dudes who don’t have their shit together.” This has just been my experience (and that of my friends) as dudes who are generally pretty average but lagging behind in 1-2 areas each. It’s hard out here
[–]desal 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
keep your head up. just enjoy yourself. don't worry about being successful with women, consider success differently, a successful night out should be one that you enjoy and approach anyone that you feel attracted to. I have faith in you.
[–]putcoolusernamehere 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have significantly learned to enjoy just doing my thing of late, but it still gets frustrating approaching dozens of girls a month, getting a handful of numbers, converting maybe 1 to a date, and having that date go like shit.
[–]Live-Ad-6309 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Dating is easy at every age if you have your shit together. And not easy at any age if you don't.
Sure, at 30, with equally put together shit, you'll probably do better than at 18. But your age will not be the deciding factor until maybe when your hair starts to go grey.
[–]JohnnyLazer17 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sound like the words of a man with a full head of hair.
[–]Live-Ad-6309 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Plenty of bald men get laid. Just shave it all off, no partially bald bs.
If you don't wanna do that, if you're not far gone yet Propecia stops most male hairloss with little to no side effects in 98% of users, and minoxidil will help restore some of your hair line.
If it is far gone, propecia + hair transplant (expensive)
Being bald is avoidable today.
[–]revente 39 points40 points41 points 3 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link
The newer models are still compatible. Your penis will fit.
And as long as they're 18 it's completely fine.
So stop overthinking and start approaching.
[–]UnbarkingDOGE 26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
what. the. fuck.
[–]Twosidesofthesame 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
Your chance of being a women hating incel is high
[–]revente 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link
You're wrong in both of your insults.
And stop with sex-shaming guys. You bigot.
[–]Twosidesofthesame -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
You being real defensive even though you said I was wrong, anyway the women hating shit is what I don’t like. A man that loves what women are, wouldn’t act as you acting. Go on and hate women some more bigot, hopefully you get better
[–]revente 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Where did i hate ananyone for being a woman xd? I'm in a happy relationship, and girls make most of my friends.
You don't love women, you just love being pussy whipped.
[–]Twosidesofthesame 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Who the hell compares women like products on a shelf? If you in a happy relationship why would you do that, are you sick anyway I’m done with you
[–]revente 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
There was nothing hateful about that. In fact my post was about that people can get together well despite some age differences.
Yeah get away from reddit. You're clearly projecting some revenge fantasies on me.
[–]Twosidesofthesame 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Actually it is no human with common sense wants to compared like a product off a shelf, ask your girl if she would want to be compared to that if she has common sense she would say no
[–]revente 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
'Methaphor'
Look up that word.
[–]Twosidesofthesame 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It’s metaphor * you need a spellcheck bruh. Well that was a shitty metaphor to use then. Dude just go touch some grass, u had a shitty metaphor and that’s it. You still didn’t answer what I said about asking your girl if she wanted to be compared to some product
[–]revente1 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Why would I ask anyone? It's not a hateful comparison.
[–]Twosidesofthesame1 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yes it is, no one what’s to be compared like some product off the shelf.. if they have common sense. This is going anywhere since you can’t comprehend anything, keep arguing with yourself cause I’m out . My point was proven that no one wants to be compared like some product that’s why I said the chances of you being a women hater is high. Have a good day and I hope you get some common sense
[–]Twosidesofthesame 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
It does sound hateful tho if that’s all you meant you should’ve explained not like a woman hater would, it’s as simple as that. You could’ve just said what you said without the newer model bs. You compared them like a product on the shelf. I didn’t even insult btw I just said the chance of you being a women hating incel was high and then you got all defensive.
The only person here hating on anyone is you.
[–]Twosidesofthesame -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You can’t be serious, you don’t think being compared to a product on a shelf sounds hateful ok then
[–]LeSulk1 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
[–]revente 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Being surprised by made up insults doesn't count as being defensive.
Stop with the hate on men who don't have sex. They make about 30% of all men, and most of them are good, normal guy. A few bad apples don't make it ok to shit on everyone.
[–]Twosidesofthesame 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t hate on them, you realize I said women hating incels right. I’m taking about men that hate women , not incels that are genuine good guys. Stop with the strawman fallacy and actually answer what I said or shut the fuck up. Would your girl want to be compared to some product? You see you don’t want to answer my question, I’m done interacting with fools. Go get some common sense with your dumb comparison and strawman fallacies
[–]JohnnyLazer17 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This guy was clearly and obviously making a stupid dad joke. Swear to god Reddit is like 80% over sensitive little bitches.
Not pussywhipped I just love women bruh good women
[–]Twosidesofthesame 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ofc most girls are your friends because you’re friendzoned by them
[–]revente 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not really. I always dated outside of my social circles.
Stop fantasizing shit.
[–]Twosidesofthesame 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok bud, I’m not fantasizing nothing . Use your words better
[–]Twosidesofthesame -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Sure I am, I’m sure if you were you wouldn’t admit it bud
[–]revente 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Hey do you actually have an argument or just enjoy making shit up trying to insult people?
[–]Twosidesofthesame -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What are you talking about, why don’t you go out and touch some grass maybe you’ll talk to a female finally hopefully you don’t harass them. Why would you compare women as some type of product like saying newer model ? That’s some lame stuff it’s better you go improve yourself
🤣too woke to catch the joke
[–]petkoTHEVIKING 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Do what you want man, though personally I wouldn't pursue anyone that young for anything other than casual sex.
Relationship-wise I legit have nothing I can relate with someone that age, and honestly hearing how 18 year old girls talk is like nails on a chalkboard for me.
[–]Peelfest2016 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m not sure I could even do casual sex. You still have to engage in conversation with a person you’re having casual sex with.
[–]surferguy999 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hooked up with a few younger girls 19/20, and it can be awkward due to the age difference.
She can’t drink (you can’t go to a bar), she’s also like 1-2 years out of college and has no experience.
It’s best to just keep it as a booty call situation.
[–]Saurid 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Long Term it's pretty bad, they are an adult hopefully (make sure they don't lie about their age, I know some girls that do so 19 is a better bet it's more likely they don't make themselves older than 18), so you don't do anything wrong but they still change a lot in a quick time while you are hopefully more in tune who you are. So the relationship can go rather bad really quickly you also don't have much in common in live besides Hobbys maybe even thens he spends probably more time on them than you. So any long term relationship has a lot of extra bagged not to mention overprotective family and friends who may think you are taking advantage.
Short term again as long as she didn't lie about her age, there is nothing wrong with it. You will become a nice memory to her and what she wants in a later partner maybe and you have a nice girl that has a lot of energy keeping you younger and having fun in the best case. There are hurdles like overprotective friends and family even more so if it's casual I would argue.
Lastly you should irregardless of type of relationship be conscious about the fact you hold the power in this relationship, don't flaunt your money too much, don't be overly involved in her choices unless she especially asks you for help etc. Just make sure you don't take advantage of her by accident and everything's fine.
[–]Mayhem977 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The age gap isn’t the problem, the problem is the different stages in life. An 18 year old woman is fresh out of high school and probably doesn’t know how to maintain a long term relationship or is looking for any kind of commitment. Of course, you can convince her to wait until she is 25 so you can considered getting married or building a family (if that is what you are planning). Honestly OP, forget what people think. People put such an emphasis on age gap couples but if you ask me, if the partners within the relationship love and respect each other, who cares what the masses say? I hear people going through toxic relationships even within their own age range.
[–]No_Practice_970 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FYI College student doesn't always mean 18+. I regularly see 15-16yr old freshman that look 25.
[–]mrcouchpotato 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Recently out of an age gap relationship. Some folks will look at you funny. If you have good intentions and aren’t a creepy asshole about you’ll be okay. The problem comes after a few months or even a few weeks when you run out of surface level flirty conversations and find out that 18 year olds are boring people.
[–]cormacru999 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Here is what you need to understand. There are laws in place that decide who can hook up, date, have sex, etc & as long as you follow those laws, legally, you are safe.
Beyond that, there are other factors that you might call moral, or intellectual, or something else, depending on what your reasoning is. While me, being almost 50 years old, can legally sleep with or date an 18 year old college girl, there are certain factors that we look at socially, psychologically, morally, etc.
The biggest 2 concerns are any power dynamic, situations like a boss dating an employee is a power imbalance between the 2 people, whatever their gender or ages. Most people can understand that as an issue, the less powerful person could lose their job, or gain more pay through these imbalance, depending on the details.
Many of us would like more men to see that there are power imbalances in age, wisdom, experience, etc when an older man dates a much younger woman. Its easier for an older man to manipulate & take advantage of a younger woman. If your intentions are openly honest & genuine, you're better off, meaning if you just want sex partners, as long as you make that very clear from the start, you're less likely to have trouble.
Still, one of the issues is that you CAN be open & honest about that but a younger person doesn't have the wisdom & experience to necessarily grasp those dynamics in the same way, so you could state your intent, she could give consent & she could still end up having more intense feelings for you & you would still be somewhat responsible for that because you knowingly dipped into a younger level of person.
Social media is not a factor really. If you act like a predator & get called out & it goes public in some way, frankly you deserve it. But if you're doing your best to make sure everyone involved is aware, informed & consenting, you're fine. There are young women who are ready to explore their sexuality, & that's fine for them & fine for you. And mistakes & misunderstandings can always happen but you just do your best to use your understanding to treat people with kindness & compassion & you'll be fine.
[–]the_malaysianmamba 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
It's hilarious when an older woman will shame me for dating younger by saying "why couldn't you attract a girl your own age?"
That would be like me going to a woman dating a tall attractive man and saying "what's the matter? Couldn't get a guy your own height?"
Like, I think you're confusing ability to attract with desire to attract...
[–]Thony311 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im 32 and got shit for having a fling with someone that was 19.
The line “because you cant attract someone your own age” came up. I thought it was funny because i had a fwb and booty call that were 29 and 26.
Hell my ex was 30.
I didnt even approach the 19yr old first. That line is them trying to understand how it could happen and just assume the dude is a dirtbag. The 19yr old was attracted to me and “wanted experience”. I didnt lead or groom her at all
[–]Chrisanova_NY 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The answers you'll get on the awful Reddit dating subs - even HERE - are not true in reality.
But in reality, I've had no problem with younger women. Most people out there who are hating, are either old, fat, ugly or jealous (men and women both), or just plain jealous that "age/wisdom/money/power/_________" ... found beauty.
And sometimes, if we're fortunate, there's genuine common interests.
Not much beyond that.
[–]Bdog5k 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The double standards are hilarious
[–]Chrisanova_NY 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
and pathetic
[–]monkey36937 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
The same ones calling you weird for dating younger women have parents with double digits age difference. From the beginning of time older men (age 25 and up)and younger women (age 18 and up) have been getting married or into relationship. And it worked out for many years just in the last 100 years of building with a guy idea came up.
[–]Certifiably_Quirky 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And in my ancestral family tree, there's probably a child bride in there somewhere. Times change. Things that were okay a few years ago, are frowned upon today. I mean date whoever you want as long as it's consensual but that's a weak argument.
I mean the idea someone wakes up on their 18th birthday with the ability to consent is pretty weak too.
I mean, if we're talking history (as implied by beginning of time), you can forget the 18 and up bit. As well as the 25 and up bit
The historical standard for when a female is "marriagable" was usually somewhere in the 14-16 range. 18+ being the standard is historically, and even today, fairly rare. And it wasn't unheard of for the men marrying the 14-16ys to be nearing their middle ages, especially among nobility.
But yes. Double digit age gaps are not and have never been abnormal. They've always made up a large chunk of relationships and it's almost always been an older male wutv a younger female.
My parents have an 11 year gap. Both my grandparent families also had 10+ year gaps. My sister has a 10+ year gap.
Yeah and you also used to be able to own people, beat your children and put them to work at age 5, and sell your daughter off for land.. doesn't mean that they should have done any of that or that we should still do it now. We have evolved and progressed as a society for a reason.
“ since the beginning of time”
Idk if you know this, but the 18 rule want around either.
[–]chechecherrybomb 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think a lot of social media flack for age gaps like this comes from the issue where older men purposely date younger women, believing that their perceived lack of life experience makes them easier to control, manipulate, and abuse.
Only you know what your intentions are and as long as you approach these women with an honest and open attitude about what you are looking for, I don't see where there's an issue. :)
[–]TheRealestBiz 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Only mess with girls who can legally buy alcohol. That’s it. That’s the rule.
[–]Erbium-Oxide -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He could go for 16 over here. Seems to be his thing.
[–]Hermit41 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I don’t even drink
[–]TheRealestBiz 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I didn’t ask if you drank. I said, only date girls who can legally buy alcohol. That is the hard line societally once you’re like 25. Anyone will assume that if you date 18, 19 year olds it’s either because you’re psychotically controlling or can’t get a girl your own age.
[–]Bdog5k 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Those people are also retarded. Pleasing them is unnecessary.
[–]vk136 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah honestly, who gives a fuck what they think? If you’re happy, you’re happy that’s all
[–]SDdude81 -5 points-4 points-3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you don't drink then it's fine.
My personal rule is nobody under 21 because I want to have a drink with them.
Just to sure that they aren't drinking either when you are with them and don't buy anything for them. That is not something you want to get in trouble for.
[–]pale_28 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I think it's really creepy
[–]Certifiably_Quirky 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
It's not necessarily that I think it's creepy, I just genuinely don't understand why anyone would want to.
A few months ago this person was still living with their parents, they had a curfew and they went to high school. Their phone is probably still on their parent's plan and they skip Monday classes because they are still hungover from a frat party on the weekend, they can't even legally drink.
And you hopefully have a career, pay rent, have a savings account and all that other adult shit. You go to bars every once in a while and your friend group is probably people around your age. I just don't know what the appeal is in an 18 year old except obviously the fact that they are youthful.
I dunno, to me make it at least 22, they have graduated, have a job and is on a path that's clearer.
But also OP, other people's opinions don't matter as long as you're both consenting adults. Some people might think you're a creep, they probably won't say it to your face though. So, just live your life.
[–]Fr33Flow 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The problem is that you can extrapolate that logic to any age gap between consenting adults.
Either people are consenting adults or they’re not. As long as there’s no abuse going on, then it’s nobody’s business.
[–]thus_gone 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just genuinely don't understand why anyone would want to.
It's not rocket science. Because they're physically attractive, which is the top marker for men evaluating women for mating.
[–]hentaihoneyyy420 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude don’t date a 18 year old that’s just weird. All have NOTHING in common. Try 21 and up I would even suggest 21 I’d say at least 22.
[–]Peelfest2016 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’d say stay away from girls under 21. Legally adults if they’re over 18, but they’re not adults. Yeah, you’ll definitely get some shit from other people, but the real concern is that someone that age is still in a high school mentality while you’re a full grown adult. Maybe you’re very immature, I don’t know, but being 29 myself the idea of dating a girl that can’t get into a bar is nauseating. I want a partner, not a play thing, so I’m interested in women that have matured a bit more. If you’re looking for someone to fuck and ditch I guess that’s your business, but an age gap of 10 years is a big deal when one of those people still calls their mom to ask about how to do their laundry. All in all, teenagers don’t make good romantic partners for adults.
[–]SunshineBlind 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude, unless you are looking for a serious relationship just go for it.
[–]Perfectly_Anonymous 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t date anyone under 21. If you can drink and they can’t it will make social plans awkward. Or you’d be supplying a minor. Either way doesn’t sound fun.
[–]EnemyAJ1302 points 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Way too young….
[–]NatashaSnyder2 points 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
They are teenagers, the fuck
[–]Moodybleu44 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think you’re 2 small years shy of 30 and have no business doing anything with an 18 year old. Sure, they are a “legal” adult but they still are TEENagers. Can’t even legally drink or rent a car. And that’s just gross.
[–]chlocodile 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Although it is totally legal, sleeping with 18 year olds when you’re 23+ is really bizarre and creepy IMO. Especially if you’re sleeping with people in that age range consistently. You’re free to do it, but others are also free to judge you for it. As a woman in her mid 20s, if I found out a guy I was interested in recently slept with a teenager that would be a dealbreaker for me. Really disgusting and cringe.
[–]ComfortExtension7065 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
thats totally valid. im not an expert but im pretty sure that a lot of men have pressure to lose virginity as a teenager especially 18 - 21 and those that dont sort of feel the need to sleep with that age since they didnt fullfill that when they were that age if that makes sense. could be total bs just a hypothesis that sorta makes sense when u look at other trauma induced behaviours, but idk if u would consider failure of losing ur virginity as a teenager traumatic. also im 18 so dont think im a creep tryna validate it im just putting my thought out there.
[–]mugatucrazypills -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
He probably shouldn't tell you then !
[–]chlocodile 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah or post it on Reddit !
[–]AmberWaves80 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gross. She’s barely an adult. Date someone your own age.
[–]lunchladyshand 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If you think the age gap might be inappropriate, it’s probably because it is.
You can of course talk and flirt or whatever, but find someone closer to your own age to date/hook up with - or who at least is in the same place in life as you - in regards to education, travels, living situation, career…
If you own a house and date someone who lives with their parents or in a college dorm, that’s gross.
[–]Antonio_N91 3 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
"If you own a house and date someone who lives with their parents or in a college dorm, that’s gross."
So, if you are successful, you are somehow a sexual predator. Jesus, I hope Putin and Kim Jong Un are reading this BS.
[–]comfortablynumbxo 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
??? If youre 28 and date an 18 year old yeah you’re a predator, who’s saying anything about being successful?
[–]Antonio_N910 points 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
You know, some people date to find a life partner, someone to spend life with.
What is predatory about dating more attractive younger woman? Seriously...?
[–]Matthistuta 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
÷2 +7
[–]HyakuShichifukujin 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t act like it’s a big deal and it won’t be. Don’t give a shit what other people think. These are non-physical traits that are attractive to women in general, so this advice applies beyond the scope of the OP question.
There is also no need to scream about your sex life on social media, especially if you do non traditional stuff like dating multiple people or dating much younger people.
If she specifically brings up the age gap, just brush it off like it doesn’t bother you (which it shouldn’t), which will in turn make her more at ease, and then change the subject.
Also don’t attempt or expect anything resembling monogamy from girls that age, they are incapable of it for any appreciable length of time (not that monogamy is optimal or natural to begin with, but that’s a different discussion). Just be fun and have fun. Girls that age are all about fun.
[–]Distinct_Face_5796 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Jealous. I live in a college town and am 39. Your situation does not happen to me, though if it happens to you go for it.
[–]avalanche_36 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hit the gym, old man, and it will happen to you.
[–]MikeHawkizheuja 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm 34 in the same boat... Lmao XD
[–]kayleedimarco 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don’t know what a 28 year old grown man would see in a barely legal 18 year old teenager.
[–]the_malaysianmamba 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The fact that they can both have children for 20+ years
[–]Nullroute127 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've found that people giving shit over age gap relationships tends to work out for me.
The more 'taboo' makes it more exciting for the girl, and she feels less controlled by being with you. Sometimes they still have some level of naivety/angst that they feel like the opposite of what they're being told is the right thing to do.
[–]Skysflies 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
There's a reason that sort of age gap is judged, you're not fully developed mentally until the age of 25, meaning it in many circumstances is simply abusive and or manipulative.
Plus there's the whole this person 6/12 months ago would have been illegal so it just looks like you've been waiting.
Hookup's are one thing, a relationship is totally different.
I wouldn't do either, i certainly wouldn't recommend you intentionally go for it either
[–]Hermit41 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Man y’all making it sound like I’m manipulating these girls or forcing myself upon them. I’m just at my job doing me they usually come onto me
[–]Skysflies -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
They're not coming onto you.
They're being friendly, please learn the difference, and even if they were, that doesn't change remotely how predatory and weird it is that you work at a campus at your age and would be ' dating' someone who's only just become of a legal age.
An age gap of say 45 and 35 is not the same as an age gap of 28 and 18, even if the number is the same
[–]Hermit41 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Read my post properly before you respond, you don’t know how to read
[–]Skysflies 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I see you removed it because you realised how weird you are
[–]Hermit41 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Are you blind it’s still up
[–]mlo519 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
If you guys click and you’re not a weirdo I don’t see the problem, it’s not like you camped out at a high school graduation
[–]Live-Ad-6309 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
You have to have a thick skin in this sort of situation. People will judge you and there is just no way around that. And if you end up dating, she will face judgment too. People will try to convince her that she's a victim of abuse, even if she was 100% into you and pursued the relationship from day 1. Heck, even if she was the one who approached you.
And lots of girls will bring up the age gap as a shit test. Often, so will her friends. You'll need to learn how to judge when she's just testing you, and when she actually legitimately views it as an issue for you to talk to her. And that's a sort of seat of your pants thing you learn with experience. Most girls will initially seem hesitant. Some of those hesitant girls will think it's completely out of the question, and the others are just worried about social norms but don't mind it personally. They can be hard to tell apart at first but it becomes more obvious the further along the interaction gets. There will also be some girls, though these are less common, who are either immediately hostile to your attempts to flirt. Or who are absolutely into it because they fetishize older men. These combined make up maybe 20%.
One issue with large age gaps is difference in life stage. It's not impossible to navigate, plenty of people do it. But it can be ackward when one of you wants to live the student lifestyle while the other is trying to be a professional. It'll often take compromise on both your parts.
[–]uritarded 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nahh I'm nearing my late 20s and enjoy hooking up with women my age just fine
[–]comfortablynumbxo 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I can’t believe im reading this, sounds like predatory behavior wtf
[–]kitaeks47demons1 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
a good rule of thumb is 4 years up and 4 years down plus there’s nothing wrong with them giving you attention and you reciprocating to some extent it just gets weird when you start entertaining it because personally i wouldn’t be able to spark up a conversation and sustain it with someone 10 years my junior (romantically speaking)
[–]braviscus -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fucc it man I'm 27 and I'd shag some 18 year olds
[–]Sufficient_Ticket237 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Half plus seven rule:
Take your age and divide it in half. Add seven to that number.
That's the minimum age you should date.
[–]Slight_Election6046 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
18 is legal who cares
Are they carding your dates ? As long as they're plus 18 who can say if she's a young looking 22 year old or older looking 19YO. How the fuck does anyone know ?
I see such variation is the rate of aging between individuals these days I cannot tell 18-27 or so in many cases.
I would personally not be interested in women younger than 21. Certianly I hooked up with 19Yo in my early 30s. You do you. Older than 26 they stop improving. Not physically because as I said, some women are sexy and saucy up to 40. But the odds of huge n-counts and toxic feminist psychological baggage increase like an actuarial table,
Immaturity at one end Toxicity at the other. It is nice to have someone from your generational cohort to talk to as well but that only gets you so far if the attitude is bad. And often it it bad.
Pick something in the middle. Women mature earlier but the core personality is pretty much fixed before 18. Hence the unfortunate situation where men find they have married emotional teenagers.
[–]bitchin-basura -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
stay away from 18 yr olds.
while its legal they arent even fully developed mentally. anyone in here promoting dating under 25 when ur over s giving groomer vibes....like frfr
yall only want 18 yr olds bc they are young, dumb, and full of cum.
[–]the_malaysianmamba 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Full of cum? If anything younger women have a lower body count
[–]bitchin-basura 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
not literally 🤦♀️
i mean horny, more sexually promiscuous and more open to casually dating than grown women who want commitment
[–]the_malaysianmamba 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
horny, more sexually promiscuous and more open to casually dating
So you mean, fun?
[–]bitchin-basura 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
fun for who?? u must mean for men
[–]the_malaysianmamba 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Huh, I didn't know sex was only enjoyable for men. Sorry youve never had good dick before.
[+]Company-Massive -7 points-6 points-5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m 59 and today am celebrating the one year anniversary of meeting my 20 year old girlfriend. We adore each other, have a great time together, & gave up giving AF what anyone else thinks or cares.
[–]comfortablynumbxo 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yikes
[–]OrzhovPalatine -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Stop overthinking it. Most of the girls I've dated were at least a 10 year age gap, my current GF is 12 years younger than me.
The only real difference between dating women your own age and women that aren't is just the latter require more patience and the former is usually more in a hurry.
[–]Horizon-seeker2 -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go on and stop caring about what bigots and feminists think.
Leonardo di Caprio only dates women between 21 and 25 years old. He methodically dumps them as soon as they turn 25 and he’s still considered a deity.
May he be your role model, respect the law and people both male and females but just ignore fanatics and bigots.
[–]Bdog5k -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
It doesn’t matter
But old woman will get mad.
[–]chlocodile 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
Because us “old women” remember how easily manipulated we were by older men at that age. We went through the process of feeling old enough at 18, and then years later realizing that you were just a teenager who got taken advantage of. If us “old women” aren’t standing up for these girls, who will? We’re mad because it already happened to us.
[–]Bdog5k -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
So you are projecting regrets and infantilizing woman.
At least have more nuance then broadstroke “it’s bad”.
[–]chlocodile 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
You yourself said that “old women will get mad”. I’m explaining why we get mad. If 25+ year old women are consistently saying that they felt taken advantage of by older men when we were teenagers, maybe there’s a problem there? Maybe it’s worth a discussion on why?
Regardless you’re free to sleep with anyone 18+ you want - just like I’m free to call you a creep because of it.
[–]Bdog5k -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
As I’m free to call you a retard for it. 🤷🏽
16 is legal in some places, if she’s happy and the dudes happy; why do other woman get so mad about it?
[–]chlocodile 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
If you could read you’d know that I already answered that question twice.
Also 16? Seriously? You’re disgusting. Can’t keep up with all the big words adult women use so you need to target a kid? Pathetic.
My lexicon’s reach is far beyond that of your typical post-prime females.
Do I gotta be an English major or something? LMAOO. That was a garbage insult.
My question was practically rhetorical. The point is you interject with your opinion regardless of if it’s applicable. Because something bad might have happened to one, they put it on everyone else. That’s it, nobody else can have it, because something happened to you. Narc much?
Also, you said you would call me a creep for dating 18+, did you mean to say that? That’s the adult woman age.
[+]V-Future -10 points-9 points-8 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Let's say I'm gonna buy a used car. There is a 2004 Mazda 6 and a 1994 Toyota Corolla. Why do I have to buy a car with more previous owners? More previous owners are equal to a car with more flaws and tricks to make it work fine. It needs more maintenance. It would be a pain to drive without causing more problems in the long run. That's why I would buy the used car from 2004. Less previous owners, less damage, less stress and it can even be cheaper on the long run because it needs less maintenance. Of course I love to drive a 1967 mustang sometimes, but what's wrong in driving a 2004 Mazda 6? It's a good car.
This post is not about cars.
[–]lunchladyshand 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It sounds like you’re replying to the wrong post then, you gross little caveman.
I’m sure neither of those cars would want you inside them.
[–]V-Future -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Whatever.
[–]Zealousideal6669 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm 20 nearly 21 but I usually date an older girl than me so it all depends. People judge guys if they date younger girls and also judge girls if they date older guys but it's totally up to you and your own decision. If you see some potential in an 18 years old girl, by all means, people can think whatever they want to but you always make your own final decisions in your own life so don't depend on what others going to think of you after that. Just make that and own it. Till it's legal and she makes you happy who cares who's gonna judge you
[–]Dolla57 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What matters most is that the chick is happy. If she's not happy for some reason then it's gonna suck
[–]Chi-Cam -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm 21 in college but something I've found is that if you try to date them. Your mind is going to only treat them like fuck buddies since a lot of them just aren't fleshed out as humans to relate to. I can relate to girls that age to a certain level but if I was 28, boy I hope I still cant relate to them. Since I'm still a college student who hasn't left mom's basement yet I have similarities to those 18 year olds.
[–]addilynblake -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I personally don’t see a problem with age gaps. As long as you’re not messing with the “younger girls” just based on the fact they’re young. If they’re of age I don’t see a problem with it, and if other people do then that’s on them! Some people may give you shit for it, but if you’re happy that’s what matters.
[–]Severe-Ad9174 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do what you like best. Your a man you don’t have to give a fuck what anyone else thinks 🤷🏾♂️ unless you choose too.
[–]Kobe_curry24 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bruv I’m doing this now but luckily I went to the school and have solid reputation and I still have plug that fuck with me so I get in any parties you can definitely rack up numbers just be chill and have fun and have ties to the university some how you will get asked why are you here or how you came with and it’s just better to have a crew to back you but tbh club game is even fire right now in my city I feel lien women are actually ready to have fun again
[–]manifess -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck what society says brother if it was such a big deal then consent would be 21 since people keep screaming 21 but it’s not. she’s an adult your an adult, women date up men date down. Simple
[–]MetaphysicPhilosophy -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If anything, it’s to your advantage. Women love older guys
[–]DB_Cooper75 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro you’re way to old to hook up with an 18 year old, lol. Your time has passed.
[–]pennybeagle -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The fact you’re even entertaining the idea is gross
[–]Hermit41 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I haven’t done anything, they tryna entertain me no need to hate is just a discussion
[–]pennybeagle 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah you just proved my point
[–]MrBDIU -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The rule of thumb I've always heard is half your age +7. So, no you shouldn't be messing around with anyone under 21. ...
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[–]Kennymacdougall -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What age gap? The only question you need to ask yourself is if she is good to fuck.
[+]blue_barracuda -6 points-5 points-4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't let Leo DiCaprio memes dictate your life.
[–]Spore2012 -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do whatever you want but tread lightly. Young people are impulsive and fleeting. When i was 32-33 I was dating a 20 yo against my better judgement, but we just got along so well. I was taking it slow and everything was fine until one day she just ghosted me. ¯\(°_o)/¯
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nothing wrong with it. Women should date older men, she’ll be able to learn and have new experiences with you. That’s better than her dating some guy her own age who can only offer her sex and drugs. I’m almost 27 and the woman I’m currently dating is 19, it’s been one of the best relationships I’ve had
[–]Joel504 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it would all be a personal opinion just as long as they are of legal age. My personal opinion is I deal with no one younger then who wasn't in high school w/ me. So if I was a senior and they were a freshman. I say fair game lol. Anything else weird’s me out. But going older is fine for me tho, i dated a girl 8 years older than me.
[–]Necrosaro_123 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I have 37yo (M), and I have no idea what age range should i be dating. Anyone care to explain me an age range i should be dating and why?
It depends, so you want to start a family?
If so, you should definitely date younger since younger women have more time to have children.
If you dated a 37 year old woman who also wanted kids.. she'd be rushing you into marriage and having children within a year or 2. Because her clock is ticking.
Wheras if you dated a 27 year old, both of you have the next 5-10 years to have kids.
[–]ha_ha_hayley92 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Best advice is if you have to ask yourself "is she too young?" then she probably is. Although age has nothing to do with the person's personality or maturity, you'll want someone you have something in common with, unless all you're looking for is hook ups. If that's the case, refer back to sentence 1
[–]JuliustheWise 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Hey I think I’ll make my own post, because I would like advice too, I’m in a similar situation around your age and want to go back to school. I’m a short guy and was also bullied for looking really young, so I really want to be able to have the last laugh and get with younger women and have a second chance. That’s what helped me get through when younger, thinking that il look young when older
You say your a fit attractive guy, that’s really good. I’ve gained a lot of wait I hope to lose it, I’ve been dealing with medical issues that have made exercise harder, I’m getting that worked on and fixed. I used to do martial arts and was on the wrestling team in HS. I’ve been told that I have a very attractive face, and a strong build and shoulders, but I need to work out to take advantage of it
I met a girl who had her own issues just a couple months ago, and she was 20 I think and she thought I was around her age maybe 21 or 2, so I felt good but also worry that might have turned her off
I would give you advice, but honestly I’m looking for similar advice myself, I can say that if your attractive that definitely goes along way, when I was in school when I did have some luck with girls they said honestly that it mattered
The only thing I can say is do you bro, but definitely don’t be coming from a place of malice I.e to get back at somebody have the last laught etc. If your gonna do something do it for you because it will add to your happiness or fulfill you in some way
[–]JuliustheWise 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I totally get you, I’ve had a lot of abuse and trauma, and learning not to hate is so hard but important
I meant it more in the sense it was so tough back then and people gave me encouragement saying that when I’m older I will enjoy it and I can even date younger
So I meant in the sense of that actually being the case and making a blessing out of someone that I felt was a curse
Same for being emotional, it’s hard but women are on average more emotional, so maybe I can learn to lean in and use my emotional nature to my advantage
[–]Additional-Reply7798 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stay away bro if you know what's good for you ... Anything under 21 22 maybe it's a no go zone.
If anything was to go wrong they will automatically take her side and you will be seen as a predator
[–]cashedashes 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Age is just a number once you're an adult. However some gaps are still looked at as inappropriate. I dated a girl who was 19 when I was 28/29, just over 9 year difference. Although almost everyone seemed ok with it there were a few who didn't like it. Especially her dad. My take on it is if they're mature enough and you both have feelings for each other give it a shot. However I can honestly say in my experience there usually comes a time in a young ladies life when she wants to go out and have fun, experience the world for herself. This certainly happened to me and ultimately ruined our relationship in the end.
That's the biggest issue in my opinion. Young people no matter how mature they act seem to always reach a point where they don't want to be held down in any real relationship. They wanna go out, be crazy make mistakes, make memories, do dumb shit, have a one night stand or whatever they feel they need to do to have a fulfilled youth. I feel like life is to short to worry to much what others thinks. If you live your life always worried what other think or trying to please others or do as others want you to do then you're litrally living their life and not your own. Do what makes you happy. Just know nothing is ever certain except change. Be free, be you, worry about your own happiness, the best motto you can live by imo is "fuck em".
[–]CoNoelC 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just make a move bro. At least get the number and then invite them over after work or whatever. They just wanna have fun with you. Don’t feel guilty feel lucky. If they wanna clean your apartment after or some shit even better. Don’t brag about it, just enjoy and keep em rotating.
Give less shits. Slay.
[–]HanzoShotFirst 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Relevant (College Humor)
[–]roakmamba 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just ask myself do I want to date someone who can't even get into the bars or someone that can? Also, do I want to hear their new experiences that I already experienced or do I want someone closer to mine? I already have a dog and a son, so it's hard enough taking care of them, let alone someone who only cares about partying and what not.
[–]Specialist_Angle_3 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As long as you have good intentions then everything is okay
[–]NewtNootNewtNoot 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Leo DiCaprio method
[–]boogaaboo1 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude just own it. If you want to date or sleep with girls who cant even legally drink you're allowed to go for them since your also an adult in legal terms. Just gotta live with the power dynamics and jokes/ backhanded insults thrown your way.
[–]Known_Form6073 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
🤦🏻♂️ bro just smash em all . Don’t try to wide em . Dik em down and keep it pushin 🤷🏻♂️💆🏻♂️
Tell me why the head massage emoji has me dyyyying.
[–]introsetsam 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yeah no
[–]CarlitosWay0427 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If they’re 18+ then what anyone decides to do is not my business and by law okay
[–]beenpimpin 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Personally I wouldn’t because I need someone with the same mental maturity as me, dating someone 10 years younger would feel like I’m babysitting them. I rarely take advice from anyone in their 20s.
Why does social media matter? Presumably you will be dating these women in private. Most people don't post their dating lives on social media. It's your private life. Do what you want.
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