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Thanks, this is helpful.
/r/askTRP28/03/21 07:45 PM
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No these girls fuck.
/r/askTRP28/03/21 06:45 PM
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Good perspective
/r/askTRP08/03/21 03:24 AM
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great, thanks
/r/askTRP07/03/21 11:08 PM
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Ok thanks that's clears up a lot for me. Damn.
/r/askTRP07/03/21 09:51 PM
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What's SGM?
/r/askTRP07/03/21 09:51 PM
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Damn homie that hit home. Thanks.
/r/askTRP07/03/21 09:50 PM
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Why do you say I was never alpha? Is it because she felt comfortable playing this game in the first place?
/r/askTRP07/03/21 05:39 PM
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I do have to say that your persona, of being argumentative and seeing things in black and white, will definitely lead to people thinking you're an ass or writing you off or trying to ban you. What makes you think I see things in black and white? I acknowledge that tips and tricks might work, that a girl who says she has a boyfriend may still date you, etc... My point is that that's not a good thing to spend time on. I don't see how you that's seeing things in "black and white." I'm giving both s…
/r/seduction30/04/14 11:11 PM
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Pretty fucking awesome, actually
/r/seduction30/04/14 10:53 PM
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You need to learn what "implied" means.
/r/seduction30/04/14 09:09 PM
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TL;DR: There is good information and bad information on the internet. The problem is that the vast majority of PUA stuff is bullshit, or only works in certain situation, or is useless, etc...
/r/seduction30/04/14 07:35 PM
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The fairytale that there's perfect lines and ways to pick up women is dated. DID I FUCKING SAY THAT????
/r/seduction30/04/14 03:56 PM
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If your partner gets mad at someone for politely asking if you're single, your partner is a dick. You must live in a fantasy land if you don't think most dudes wouldn't get angry as fuck if some random asshole came over and tried to hit on their girl.
/r/seduction30/04/14 02:02 PM
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The whole "its not what you say its how you say it" is bullshit.
/r/seduction30/04/14 01:46 PM
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its not real, that's why
/r/seduction30/04/14 01:08 PM
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even worse
/r/seduction30/04/14 01:08 PM
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Move on. You have oneitis. Don't be an asshole next time.
/r/seduction30/04/14 01:06 PM
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I've been around enough women to know that that opening was extremely corny. Everybody who isn't an AFC loser on this thread immediately recognized this as fake. This is now how real people react. Enjoy the fantasy though.
/r/seduction30/04/14 01:05 PM
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Your opinion is what I like to call "wrong". Cute If you wanna get serious about pick up first shed all your preconceived notions of what is "douchey". Well I don't want to get serious about pick up, if this is what pick up is.
/r/seduction30/04/14 01:04 PM
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You have oneitis so you need to move on. Plus you were a dick which is why I'm not responding to you.
/r/seduction30/04/14 01:03 PM
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It's a sign of generosity and generosity is attractive No its not.
/r/seduction30/04/14 06:20 AM
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THIS This story is much too farfetched to work. Even if the girl was single (which is extremely rare), the guy's approach was much too corny and supplicating for any woman to give a fuck.
/r/seduction30/04/14 06:20 AM
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You're not fucking getting it. Yes, she was single. But 99% of the time if a girl is with a guy she is either dating him, or "with" him, or the guy will be a complete douche and cockblock you, or she will not want to get picked up because it would ruin their hang out. It's a waste of time to hope that you're going to get that 1%, so it makes more sense to focus on girls that aren't with a guy. Posts like this are like middle aged women watching romantic comedies - they are farfetched scenarios t…
/r/seduction30/04/14 06:19 AM
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Now, an easy solution is: get the fuck out of that group, and pick up more normal girls. Yes, that's the solution. Look, you're not going to change these girls. Changing somebody's values that they have been ingrained with their entire life is extremely difficult. It's not worth it, especially if you just want to fuck them. What goal are you trying to achieve? Are you trying to get married? If so, just marry them. But if you just want to fuck them, it's probably not going to happen. I'm sure tha…
/r/seduction30/04/14 06:05 AM
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cuz there are better things to spend your time on ... like single girls
/r/seduction30/04/14 05:59 AM
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She's being a twat. That's a shitty thing to say. I would say this "oh I thought you might like hookah. Well, feel free to meet me there. Otherwise, have a good night!"
/r/seduction30/04/14 05:24 AM
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Who cares? They're just words. You guys are overthinking this.
/r/seduction30/04/14 05:23 AM
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this is the right answer you need to be completely upfront about your intentions. Yeah bitch, I tried to kiss you. She's not going to go home and be like "eww he wanted to kiss me."
/r/seduction30/04/14 05:23 AM
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because its generally a dumb idea to go after women who are with a guy. Yeah, it worked this one time, but it usually wouldn't.
/r/seduction30/04/14 05:22 AM
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once again, the voice of truth gets downvoted. sorry, bra.
/r/seduction30/04/14 04:52 AM
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its not going to work. you have to get the girl's number.
/r/seduction30/04/14 04:52 AM
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It's easy to create a "connection." Hey, you're from Virginia? Me too. Bam - now we're connected. A connection without attraction doesn't mean jack shit. I mean, I guess a connection is impressive if you're super socially awkward.
/r/seduction30/04/14 04:52 AM
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Ewwww First of all, if they were together, they wouldn't have accepted a drink. The guy would be like "get the fuck out of here before I smash your face in." And if they weren't together, it's kind of a bitch move to buy them drinks, especially the guy. Point is, it's douchey and stupid to go up to a woman who is with a guy, IN MY OPINION.
/r/seduction30/04/14 04:51 AM
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Most of their videos aren't about pick-up technique but just to show that talking to random girls, even when you say weird or strange things, isn't all that scary. Most people are scared of talking to random people because they are afraid of people hating them. And people hate the Simple Pickup guys. So I don't see how it helps.
/r/seduction30/04/14 04:48 AM
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They are not antagonizing people. They back off when they cross barriers and ask questions before or at least infer they are going to make move before they do it. Being a douchebag is crossing a barrier. The "don't be a douchebag" barrier.
/r/seduction30/04/14 04:48 AM
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Simple Pickup Is Designed To prove That Any Guy Can Attract Women Well they're wrong. Plus the guys in the video look like horrible douchebags. I'm surprised they don't get punched more.
/r/seduction29/04/14 10:27 PM
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Sounds stupid
/r/seduction29/04/14 03:14 PM
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This is what I would say: "I used to think like you. I would only have sex with girls I was dating. And then I realized that's stupid. I love sex! Why would I date somebody just for sex? I don't need to be in a relationship! It's stupid to pretend you want to be in a relationship with somebody just so you don't feel guilty about sex. There is nothing wrong with sex. But I respect your decision." and then you walk away and make yourself water. Change the subject and then after about 15 minutes ki…
/r/seduction29/04/14 01:55 PM
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If a girl is going to do that she doesn't like you (i.e., you haven't built up enough "attraction").
/r/seduction29/04/14 01:50 PM
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why the fuck would anybody downvote this?? It's clearly the only right answer.
/r/seduction29/04/14 09:04 AM
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Then I wait 1 or 2 days and text something simple like: "how's your week? :)". What the fuck is the point of that? Why don't you ask her out? She knows that you don't give a fuck how her week is going.
/r/seduction29/04/14 09:03 AM
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There is a fine line between not giving a fuck about what others think of you and giving so little fucks that you end up doing and saying completely stupid and silly shit and look like a moron in front of your friends, even if it amuses you? If you're acting like an idiot in front of your friends, then you're obviously giving a fuck, because you wouldn't act that way normally.
/r/seduction29/04/14 09:02 AM
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this. most guys sound so thirsty when they talk to girls.
/r/seduction29/04/14 01:29 AM
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I feel your pain. To be honest, approaching is going to be hard for you because you are not used to rejection, so the fear of rejection is going to be very difficult for you. It's sometimes easier to approach when you're an ugly dork because you have nothing to lose. You're going to have to forget everything you know and start from scratch. Go to a dingy bar far away from where you normally hang out and just approach random ugly girls. Have 2 other bars in mind to go to if you get rejected. It w…
/r/seduction28/04/14 10:29 PM
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My record of success speaks for itself Ewwwww. Stop being so defensive that somebody disagrees with you. you aren't wrong about this trait in certain women and in certain situations, but you are wrong in believing that this "one sized fits all," approach is best...dead wrong Uh no, I'm pretty confident that women always want the guy to take the lead. It doesn't matter if you're new to the city. I know this may come as a shock, but it's true. Some of them even make decisions for themselves. gasp.…
/r/seduction28/04/14 09:05 PM
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If you just moved to a city the size of Austin, there's absolutely no way you are going to be able to pull this off as smoothly as a place you are familiar with....that's just a fact. It doesn't matter. The man always has to pick the place. Period. It doesn't even matter if the place you pick sucks. You just have to pick the fucking place. Sorry, this is just something about women that men do not understand. Decisions like this give the woman anxiety. You have to pick the fucking place.
/r/seduction28/04/14 08:55 PM
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Confidence and not giving a fuck are the same thing. The only way to be truly confident is to not base your emotions on other people.
/r/seduction28/04/14 08:44 PM
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I just moved here, I don't really know anyone yet. What time are you free? You can show me a good place to get a drink around here NO NO NO NO NO NO First of all, never say "what time are you free." You pick the time and place. If she can't do that time, she'll tell you another time (or she's not interested). Secondly, YOU HAVE TO PICK THE PLACE. It doesn't matter if you're new. It doesn't fucking matter. You have to pick the place. PERIOD. PERIOD. You don't know where anything is? Google shit. …
/r/seduction28/04/14 08:35 PM
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Ok
/r/seduction28/04/14 07:21 PM
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Being confdent works. Tricks don't.
/r/seduction28/04/14 07:21 PM
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Seduction is about more than just being confident I disagree
/r/seduction28/04/14 04:04 PM
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I do understand what you are saying. However, you did not give an alternative to how to close a conversation. Uh... Bye? I'll call you later? It's not hard. I feel that by that definition all of us on seddit either want to rape women or are highly misogynistic! What the fuck??? No.
/r/seduction28/04/14 03:53 PM
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A trick doesn't have to be deceptive. It's a "trick" because its some little stupid thing you have to learn that is different from just being confident.
/r/seduction28/04/14 03:52 PM
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but when I ask if the women want me to walk them to their class/apartment /subway station, they almost always turn me down. Why do you ask them to do that? It's fucking creepy. It sounds like you want to rape them, or you're super misogynistic and you don't think they can walk by themselves.
/r/seduction28/04/14 02:24 PM
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I'm sorry, I hate tricks. And this is a particularly corny one.
/r/seduction28/04/14 02:23 PM
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Become 10x more interesting than you were before by doing things that make you uncomfortable. Even if you were total shit before, if you are living at the edge of your comfort zone you will eventually get to the point where you can say "She may have dumped the guy I was then, but she's not good enough for the guy I am now." This is exactly the right advice. Getting dumped hurts because its a huge blow to your ego. Somebody who hung out with you a lot is basically saying "I know you pretty well, …
/r/seduction28/04/14 02:20 PM
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Give up. She would have made time for you if she gave a fuck. At the very least text her like Sunday and try to set something up but if that doesn't work give up. Definitely don't text her through the week.
/r/seduction28/04/14 04:34 AM
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I guess I figured, sheesh, why would ANYBODY want to follow what was written in The Game?? Seems like a waste of time. Cuz they think its a shortcut to having real confidence
/r/seduction28/04/14 01:34 AM
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If they ask you where your friends are, just be like: 1) they're somewhere here 2) They're on their way, I just got out of work late and met them here 3) my friend had a fight with his girlfriend and left early. But really it doesn't matter.
/r/seduction27/04/14 11:30 PM
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Not sure why everyone is mentioning negging. Thank you!!! The main reason people hate PUAs is because they neg. OMG a girl is getting complimented and hit on! I must therefore go saying something rude to destroy her self-esteem so she will like me!!
/r/seduction27/04/14 11:29 PM
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It's not an "unneeded ego boost" if its true. An unneeded ego boost is something that isn't true "you're the hottest girl in the world." Contrary to what some fuckhead PUAs think, the key to making girls like you isn't destroying their self esteem.
/r/seduction27/04/14 11:28 PM
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The "I get hit on all the time too" line is just a joke. It's funnier if you're ugly. No guy gets hit on as much as girls.
/r/seduction27/04/14 11:27 PM
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So much bad advice in this thread. In tjat situation I usually go up to her and say "hi I'm happyjerk, i noticed you rejecting guys left and right and I had to come over and compliment you on that. Looking like me, I have the same problem too.
/r/seduction27/04/14 07:41 PM
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I'm in the Atlanta
/r/seduction27/04/14 02:57 AM
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Her friend needs to grow up.
/r/seduction26/04/14 09:13 PM
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Be nice but don't be emotional about them
/r/seduction26/04/14 07:37 PM
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30 minutes to an hour isn't enough attraction for one. Second, your texts make you sound pathetic. Look at this: Ah ok. The weather isn't great tonight anyways. When is good for you? "Ah ok" makes you sound like a sad sack of shit. You talked to her for 30 minutes and she doesn't want to go on a date with you? Booo hooo hooo. Ah ok makes it sound she broke your heart. You look needy as fuck. You should also never say "when is good for you"? You should say "ok you can't do today, how about X even…
/r/seduction26/04/14 05:03 PM
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First of all, who cares? Why are you texting girls? You should be asking her out. She either wants to hang out with you or she doesn't. If you ask her out and she bullshits, next. If you ask her out and she comes out, great. But who cares about her texting first? As for your question, most girls don't like to initiate things with guys until they feel super comfortable with them. Girls are deathly afraid of rejection, and they don't even want to risk texting and not getting a response back. They …
/r/seduction26/04/14 04:58 PM
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Ive been hanging out with a stripper. Well call her stripper A.Wednesday night I told her for the 5th timeni want to put my dick in her ass. She said she enjoys hanging out with me as a friend and doesn't want me to catch feelings. So tonight I'm going with my hot blonde friends (who are doctors) and inviting stripper A out with us. Then stripper B, who I've been banging for a few weeks will meer us there with her friends. I will then go home with stripper B. Could be an awesome night or I could…
/r/seduction26/04/14 01:08 AM
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She knew exactly what she was doing and I made a conscious effort to judge her ability to do that. Ok if you really think that then I can't say anything else to you.
/r/seduction26/04/14 12:07 AM
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A girl who is wasted doesn't mean she's the bottom of the barrel. Dude, a girl who is super wasted who starts making out with the first guy she sees is the definition of bottom of the barrel. News flash: she doesn't give a fuck about you, she doesn't remember who are you, and she would have made out with anybody in that situation. You could have been Chewbacca. If other dude was better looking, we all go to her place, happy ending (har har) And you'd be in prison for rape.
/r/seduction25/04/14 11:54 PM
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JUST APPROACH
/r/seduction25/04/14 08:02 PM
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Went out solo to some bar that was pretty empty. Don't go to empty bars. In walk two girls, super wasted. Don't lick the bottom of the barrel. So, pretty frustrating given how quick and how far she was going with me. How could you possibly be frustrated? They were wasted. Why are you trying to analyze this? Why do you care? Wasted people do stupid, random s hit. This has nothing to do with you needing a wingman. This has to do with you going better places and finding better girls.
/r/seduction25/04/14 08:01 PM
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I know I should be making a date, time and place but I feel like it should be more enjoyable for her since she can choose what. nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo FACT: girls would rather go on a shitty date than have to choose. Plus, girls are there for you, not for the other shit that is part of the date. You have to fucking choose, end of the story.
/r/seduction25/04/14 05:32 PM
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Look, if you want to be successful in life you need to realize that the conversation can't be all about you. You need to take into account the other person's interests, emotions, and shit they know about. That's great that you're goal oriented but if you can't put brakes on that for 20 minutes to have a conversation with somebody you'll be fucked. Of course I can force myself into those situations to get with women but it comes off as me trying to please them and live up to their expectations an…
/r/seduction25/04/14 03:39 PM
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I usually have a lot of confidence and a big ego but when it comes to strangers I just can't help but be too shy. Your big ego hurts you because you are afraid of getting rejected.
/r/seduction25/04/14 01:33 PM
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I am good friends with all three and it is mine and Lizzy's intention to set Larry and Maggie up. That shit never works. They either like each other or they don't. You can't do anything to help.
/r/seduction25/04/14 05:12 AM
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Ask them out then
/r/seduction25/04/14 04:12 AM
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approach
/r/seduction25/04/14 02:48 AM
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Control your emotions. Realize that if you feel in "love" she might not feel the same.
/r/seduction25/04/14 02:14 AM
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true dat. dumping anybody is a huge ego blow and there is no real way to "soften" it. You might as well just be as honest as possible.
/r/seduction24/04/14 08:47 PM
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You're not giving enough information. Are you asking these girls out on dates? Or are you just doing the "let's hang out" thing? If you're asking them on dates and they invite you out with another guy then I would next those bitches. If a girl asks you to do this, she probably isn't interested in the first place. So its your call if you even want to go. But there ARE some advantages of this type of set up. It's not a real date, so you don't have to do anything. You can flake, not show up, or lea…
/r/seduction24/04/14 07:10 PM
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and why are you bragging about sex when u know this place is full of neckbeard virgins who need help. Because not everybody else is a hater
/r/seduction24/04/14 03:29 PM
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Walk into the club. Fart. Watch people react. Own it.
/r/seduction24/04/14 11:43 AM
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not far off
/r/seduction24/04/14 08:52 AM
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Do you want my real advice? Spend less time talking about this online and go out and do it. How the fuck do you know what I'm doing with my life? I have had dates literally every night this week. The only reason I'm online so much right is that I'm between jobs and I enjoy this. It seems like you have the passion, but phrases like "NOT GIVING A FUCK ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE THINK" are redundant, and frankly not insightful. The whole point of that long ass wall of text is to explain what it means to not…
/r/seduction24/04/14 08:49 AM
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Free comedy shows
/r/seduction24/04/14 03:22 AM
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Hey everybody it's the "I NEED TO LET YOU KNOW EVERY 20 MINUTES I AM IGNORING YOU" guy.
/r/seduction23/04/14 11:02 PM
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Her not texting you isn't "ignoring" you. It's your responsibility as the man to text her.
/r/seduction23/04/14 08:00 PM
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Truth. when most guys compliment a girl's appearance, they are doing it from a place of smallness and putting pussy on a pedestal. They are literally letting their emotions control them and saying something stupid like "damn she got some big titties." And then they harp on that fact like they've never seen a girl with big tits before. But telling a girl she is attractive in a confident, seductive way is a whole different thing.
/r/seduction23/04/14 05:07 PM
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"being good with girls" is a form of "being awesome" No its not. Plenty of douchebag losers are great with girls.
/r/seduction23/04/14 05:04 PM
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I think it puts you in the position of being needy or perhaps eager. You can tell a girl she's hot but not look needy. When I first see a girl, if it's clear she put a lot of effort into dressing up and putting make up on, I will always say "Damn, you look hot." And that's it. I don't bring that up again. That's not needy at all. Also, that's what I fucking hate about this sub. The way everybody wants to make rules. NEVER TELL A GIRL SHE'S PRETTY. Fuck that. It's not always bad to tell a girl sh…
/r/seduction23/04/14 05:00 PM
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I disagree. Part of letting a girl know you want to fuck her is letting her know you think she's attractive. You just have to do in a non-pathetic, non-needy, genuine way. And also, you have to slide it in among more substantive compliments.
/r/seduction23/04/14 04:19 PM
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First, try to reason with them. Be like "hey that shit is really fucking annoying when you cockblock." Then, if they don't stop, ditch them. You're going to have to divide your time up into "hanging out with friends" and "getting girls" cuz you apparently can't do both. Most guys can't control their emotions around girls, and if your friends are like that, you won't be able to fix them.
/r/seduction23/04/14 03:45 PM
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I don't think you've ever have been or talked to someone that trains for something competitive. How do you know who I've talked to? My best friend's family owns a gym where they train famous boxers and learn the most cutting-edge techniques. Fact is, it's still a boring subject. It doesn't touch people's emotions. Girls want to hear about goals, traveling, spirituality, shit like that. I know a lot about the ins and outs of cars, and its really interesting to a car person, but if you're not a ca…
/r/seduction23/04/14 02:28 PM
1

"ACTUALLY BECOMING AWESOME" does not just happen. Its not like you can sit at home neckbearding your life away, and suddenly you burst with awesomeness and your personality is changed. You actually have to go out and talk to people, especially women in this case. Once again, you're mixing up "being awesome" and "being good with girls." They are not the same thing. You need to be awesome first, and then being good with girls will come easily. People here on this sub don't seem to get that.
/r/seduction23/04/14 09:08 AM
14

no
/r/seduction23/04/14 05:26 AM
2

Exactly. And if a girl puts you in a "grey zone" where you can't tell that mean she doesn't REALLY give a fuck.
/r/seduction23/04/14 05:19 AM
1

Wait a second. One of your friends killed himself and you're worried about what some girl thinks of you? What the fuck??? You need to get your priorities straight. The fact that you're even thinking about the girl at a time like this tells me your head is all fucked up.
/r/seduction23/04/14 05:18 AM
-9

How do I avoid sounding like a show off while talking about the gym? Don't talk about the gym. Not to sound like an asshole, but the gym is honestly a boring and superficial subject and you obviously know that nobody gives a fuck. Conversations shouldn't be all about you.
/r/seduction23/04/14 05:17 AM
4

All I want is to get this girl out of my head so I can free up my mental space but I'm finding this extremely difficult to do because a part inside me keeps telling me that maybe I have a chance. Ask her out. If she says yes, then great. If she says no, then now you know you don't have a chance so there is no more "maybe."
/r/seduction23/04/14 05:13 AM
2

They are fascinated. They find you interesting. Not necessarily. Some girls just want to fuck.
/r/seduction23/04/14 05:12 AM
1

I want a girlfriend to spend a lot of time with, that would understand me more than myself and with whom every dumb thing can become interesting. I think you want some unattainable ideal of a woman that doesn't actually exist. You sound like you want one-itis. Don't believe the Disney movie projection of romance. I don't have hobbies or areas of interest. Well that's your problem. And to add on top of that, the girls I usually like a lot are book worms/very intellectual and knowledgeable girls Y…
/r/seduction23/04/14 05:11 AM
-1

IMO, this is the wrong response. She has rejected you by using this word and you fighting against it makes you look needy and pathetic. What would I do? I would look her in her eye and be like "did you just call me buddy?" and then walk away. Same message, but her brain can't process it the same way.
/r/seduction23/04/14 05:08 AM
0

well my mom wouldn't even text you back either
/r/seduction22/04/14 11:52 PM
10

this sounds like an invitation to a glory hole
/r/seduction22/04/14 11:51 PM
0

Your questions are irrelevant because your entire mindset is wrong. You need to stop trying to make yourself into a Ken doll and focus on becoming a fucking man and enjoying your life without women.
/r/seduction22/04/14 11:51 PM
0

My mom would never fuck you, you're way too much of a beta
/r/seduction22/04/14 11:50 PM
-3

I have to do something to fill this void though No you fucking don't. Trying to get girls is the last thing you need to do. Instead, focus on working on yourself and building a life and identity that doesn't involve girls. You're obsessed with the way you look because you want to make girls happy. Who gives a fuck what they think? I'm successful and make a ton of money, and I have high social status. Yuck I play the alpha male all the time. Yuck
/r/seduction22/04/14 10:54 PM
0

Tell those hos you're busy. Jesus Christ, its not hard.
/r/seduction22/04/14 10:12 PM
-3

No offense OP, but.... You sound like a thoroughly feminized wuss. Please read your post again. It stinks of desperation, neediness, and a need for validation from women. I can tell why any woman would want to stay as far as possible away from you. You need to take some time off of girls and focus on just being happy as a man. Stop worrying about your shoes or your eyebrows. There is more to life than looking good for girls. Go find a hobby. Go to the gym. Being 6 feet tall and 145 lbs isn't bad…
/r/seduction22/04/14 10:08 PM
1

How about just not be an asshole?
/r/seduction22/04/14 10:04 PM
-1

The goal of PUa, nay, the goal of LIFE is to "Make yourself awesome." And how do you do it? By learning, and training hard. That's my exact problem with this mindset. Learning stupid tricks or gimmicks, or focusing on being "cocky funny" isn't making yourself awesome. It's trying to finagle your way into girl's pussies by being a fake and tricking them. It's retarded. If you want to actually do well, you need to focusing ON ACTUALLY BECOMING AWESOME.
/r/seduction22/04/14 08:00 PM
-3

Ok, unsub. Fact is, you can't fake a personality. You can't read off a script when talking to another person. Also, conversations move too fast so you can't be thinking to yourself "oh shit I need to be cocky right now." All this shit about "cocky funny" is retarded because you're basically trying to pretend to be somebody with confidence when you're really not. This sub should be about general principles that are usually true - don't be emotionally overinvested, don't be needy, be confident, et…
/r/seduction22/04/14 05:38 PM
4

yeah the fact that there are millions of peasants in China doesn't do much for me.
/r/seduction22/04/14 05:02 PM
1

Sounds like you make a common mistake: you get too needy and that scares the girl off. Once you've made that fuckup, there is no real way to recover. Even if you act non-needy for a long-ass time she will still remember you being needy and that you have it in you. So there is no real point in worrying about your "reaction" to this dumping. You just need to let it happen and worry about fixing yourself for next time. TLDR: you're fucked But, if you REALLY wanted to salvage it, you should do somet…
/r/seduction22/04/14 04:23 PM
1

yeah girl's emotions are a lot more fluid than guys.
/r/seduction22/04/14 04:19 PM
-5

How about you stop trying to be a douchebag on purpose and just be yourself???
/r/seduction22/04/14 01:31 PM
4

Seems like she doesn't give a fuck about you. I would text back "great! See you there!" I would go to the show. Come by and say hi to her and her friends (don't call her and ask her if she's there), and then bounce.
/r/seduction22/04/14 03:25 AM
4

Be careful. By overloading your schedule you could be setting yourself up for anxiety or you may not be able to prioritize correctly and your career may suffer. I find its better to focus on 1 or 2 things than a million things. And always keep your career the top priority no matter what.
/r/seduction21/04/14 10:40 PM
2

I like to say "date" to remove any ambiguity. That said, it is true that the word puts pressure on her. I do everything I can to remove that pressure. I make her qualify herself to me, and I tell her I'm really busy, so I can't hang out all the time, etc... I basically let her know "yeah it's a date, but I'm not going to get really needy."
/r/seduction21/04/14 10:07 PM
-2

"I'm a cool laid back person etc etc.... must have been a crappy day for that person" No because I'm lying to myself then. I know they are just being a shitball.
/r/seduction21/04/14 09:56 PM
0

Women are naturally attracted to guys that are taller than them. But as my post describes, height is just one small part of your value. You need to not get obsessed with it and focus on other parts of your value.
/r/seduction21/04/14 04:30 PM
-2

Well, first of all, that's nowhere close to your experience, That was actually exactly my experience. I was running out of an elevator and she shot me a dirty look like there was something wrong with me. Maybe they were in a hurry. Maybe they just got a divorce. None of those excuses matter. If you had a shitty day, and you are taking it out on strangers my trying to make them feel inferior, you're a fucking shitbox. The deeper question here, is why would I care? I know you didn't understand the…
/r/seduction21/04/14 04:28 PM
-2

Interesting. So, from a split-second "interaction," you know her core value: shitty. Must be some mind-blowing clairvoyance you have. Yes, I fucking do. If a random person came up to you on the street and yelled "get out of my way, asshole" then you could be confident they were a shitbox person. Maybe she is nice in other parts of her life, but for that moment, she was shitty. I've also noticed that people who are shitty to strangers are usually shitty in general. And, of course, you miss the wh…
/r/seduction21/04/14 04:02 PM
0

That's a weird, oversimplified definition that applies to a lot of shit that have nothing to do with confidence.
/r/seduction21/04/14 03:52 PM
1

I am convinced that she is the female version of me There is no female version of you. Saying things like that makes me think you may have oneitis. and the best part is she totally likes me too Girls don't "like" guys the way we like them. It takes a lot of things to "click" for a girl to like you. We’ve been trying to meet up for the past two weeks, but she will always end up cancelling last minute We? No - YOU'VE been trying to set up the second date, and she keeps flaking, because she's not r…
/r/seduction21/04/14 03:46 PM
0

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I think a lot of those things you're talking about are consequences of being secure in your value.
/r/seduction21/04/14 03:34 PM
-1

Tearing down a complete stranger in our minds, with zero evidence of our conclusions, just to temporarily make ourselves feel better, is not confidence. It is pure cowardice. No, I'm pretty confident I did the right thing. Giving somebody a dirty look for no reason is a shitty thing to do, and I can be confident in guessing that she did so because she's a shitty person. I obviously don't know the details of her life, but I can guess accurately that she sucks. She did not ask for his advances. Sh…
/r/seduction21/04/14 03:32 PM
-5

No offense, but you're completely fucking wrong. Nothing is more alpha than being able to make fun of yourself. It shows ultimate confidence. It shows "look, I don't give a fuck about impressing you or getting into a pissing match with you about whether I'm worthy of you." If you can't be self-deprecating every once in a while then you will look like a fucking douchebag who is always trying too hard. And fact is, that is probably what you are. The whole point of saying "why are you even talking …
/r/seduction21/04/14 09:36 AM
4

I disagree with tip 4, sometimes rejection is not even your fault even if you have really strong game. Did you not read the article? I make that very same point. Some of y'all need to quit trying to get laid and focus on learning to read first.
/r/seduction21/04/14 09:30 AM
1

I wouldnt fuck with it. Use it to make some good friendships.
/r/seduction21/04/14 02:15 AM
5

Reply: no Not everything needs a smart response
/r/seduction20/04/14 11:49 PM
2

Reset your life. Take a week off. Stop trying to get girls.
/r/seduction20/04/14 06:11 PM
4

reply: I know I don't have a chance, I'm just doing this for practice
/r/seduction20/04/14 05:21 PM
10

well all that "age" shit is mental. There are people in their 50s and 60s that have the same zest for life that people in their 20s do. There are also people in their 20s that act like old people.
/r/seduction20/04/14 04:45 PM
53

The only advice I can give you is to own the fact that you're old. Dress nice, take care of yourself, etc... A lot of chicks are into older men, but there is nothing creepier than an old guy trying to act like he is young.
/r/seduction20/04/14 02:50 PM
3

You should only be asking girls on dates that you think will say yes. If you haven't built any rapport/attraction, don't bother. When I'm talking to a girl who is interested, I can pretty well tell if she's going to say yes or not. I've only had a few times when the girl denied me her number and/or a date. You need to chill out and calm down and not be so aggressive/thirsty.
/r/seduction20/04/14 02:42 AM
8

1) Society has generally feminized men. 2) Women naturally act pathetic around women, that's why most traditional societies had strict rules as to how men and women could interact. 3) Movies, television, etc..., all encourage AFC behavior. 4) Women think they want AFC behavior and tell men to do those things.
/r/seduction20/04/14 02:41 AM
-1

being myself
/r/seduction20/04/14 02:33 AM
3

You might be trying too hard to come off as "cold" and look uninterested. Also you may just be hanging out with weird girls.
/r/seduction20/04/14 01:36 AM
1

Instantly. It is a subconscious reaction. You can sometimes recover, but its hard.
/r/seduction19/04/14 10:13 PM
3

if you have a rich vocabulary and are skilled in language Women definitely prefer intelligent/articulate guys, but you speaking like that makes me think you might be a pretentious douche, and women hate that. Look, women are attracted to alphas - if your intelligence contributes to you being an alpha, then it's good. But if you look like a snob who is trying too hard, it is bad.
/r/seduction19/04/14 03:38 PM
1

It's more OP is worried he himself is a bitch and will fall in love.
/r/seduction18/04/14 09:11 PM
3

People flake for many reasons. Here are some of the main ones: 1) They are shitty people - in this case, run! There are people who flake on their best friends. They are shitty, self-absorbed and often have emotional problems. You don't want that in your life. 2) They don't like you - in that case, move on. You're not going to get them to like you by yelling at them. 3) You didn't ask them out right. In that case, read my post: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1vpxcb/how_i_ask_girls_out…
/r/seduction18/04/14 08:12 PM
12

You're not really "jealous." What really happened is that your ego just took a hit. That girl pretty much said to you "hey I know we had plans, but I found something more fun to do (or somebody more fun to be with)." It's completely understandable to feel like shit when your ego gets run over head-on like that. There are no excuses or justifications you can make. So here are 2 options. 1) Try to play it cool and plan something else with her. Hide the fact that your ego was bruised. Today you tex…
/r/seduction18/04/14 08:09 PM
1

everything Michael Jackson does, basically
/r/seduction18/04/14 04:25 PM
1

I am in the bay area in cali and I've read some articles and surveys that state that there are a much greater percentage of single men in their 20-30s than women. How does that even make sense? Are there guys with multiple girlfriends? Your post is nonsense.
/r/seduction18/04/14 04:25 PM
1

Yeah 10 guys is way too much. are you going to find a group of 10 girls that are all going to like you? Fat chance. Watch this starting at 1:19: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3yvSaU_ob4
/r/seduction18/04/14 04:09 PM
3

your prob acting too needy
/r/seduction18/04/14 03:40 PM
1

me: holds hands forward come here, come here (I was gonna sit her on my lap but she ran over gave me a hug) Ewww no, you look creepy and needy. Don't ever fucking do that again. When you talk to a girl you don't make it look like you are some hungry animal that needs shit from her. You have to be a nice, emotionally detached guy feeding HER emotions, not yours. You are lucky she was as nice as she was.
/r/seduction18/04/14 03:37 PM
1

Who cares about what a particular word means? Just life your live the best way you know how.
/r/seduction18/04/14 02:18 PM
1

I would have done the date with the 2 girls. It's a nice thing to do, it makes you look like you don't give a fuck, and it gives you the opportunity to use the other girl to build up your value. It also takes the pressure off of you. You wanted a "date" but she turned it into something else. So now you can leave at any time. You can hang out, put on a good show, and then leave whenever you want.
/r/seduction18/04/14 02:18 PM
2

Don't go to Coachella thinking "damn I want to get laid." Go there to have fun. Chances are, most girls there aren't going to fuck you. They are there with their friends and want to see music. And if they do fuck you, they are probably crazy and wasted. If you so as to happen to strike up a conversation with a hot girl and it goes somewhere, great. but don't focus on it too much.
/r/seduction17/04/14 06:30 PM
49

He says he's "picky" But yeah in my experience Tinder has a really low outcome. It's more an ego validation tool for most girls.
/r/seduction17/04/14 06:28 PM
23

LOL
/r/seduction17/04/14 05:49 PM
1

all about not giving a fuck. You don't have to take pictures of your food, just don't crazy shit.
/r/seduction16/04/14 10:11 PM
1

It's not really that hard. I have a habit of texting anything whatever weird thing is going on in my life at that time. Instead of texting a girl "hey how are you" and other sappy shit like that I'll text a girl "hey I just saw a guy wearing Google glasses ... what a douche" or whatever I happened to see at that time. Or I'll just randomly take a picture of my lunch and text it to them.
/r/seduction16/04/14 10:04 PM
1

think about something else
/r/seduction16/04/14 09:35 PM
2

You're not going to fix them so you either have to deal with them or go out solo. Wingmen are overrated anyway. I've never seen the need for them, and it seems like they cause more trouble than they fix because you have to find a girl for each guy.
/r/seduction16/04/14 05:05 PM
1

ok
/r/seduction16/04/14 03:53 PM
1

I'm not going to send you pics of girls I've fucked. I have nothing to prove to you.
/r/seduction16/04/14 03:54 AM
1

LOL do you not believe me?
/r/seduction16/04/14 03:44 AM
1

The word "interested" is whatever a person interprets it to mean. I don't know how she will interpret that word. You should never tell a girl you just want to bang her. Even for FWBs you still need to provide some kind of other connection.
/r/seduction16/04/14 01:44 AM
2

Saying "looks like you're not interested" has nothing tondo with being in a relationship. It could mean "you're not interested in hanging out"
/r/seduction15/04/14 10:44 PM
24

First of all, it hasn't "worked" yet. Until you're banging her, you can't say it "worked." She might just feel bad for you. Or she may only have a little bit of interest in you, and she's going on this date so as to not "lose" you. Who knows? But here's my defense of this tactic: Girls are getting asked out and asked to do things all the time. And a lot of girls see guys as these crazy animals who just want to get laid. So when you ask a girl out to drinks or something she doesn't think to herse…
/r/seduction15/04/14 07:18 PM
1

Hey if you really want to just be friends, that's fine. But its clear that these guys are still trying to "seduce" her. Bad bad bad.
/r/seduction15/04/14 07:05 PM
1

Several friend requests? Here is an iron rule of asking girls to do shit: you ask a girl ONCE to do something. Anything after that is needy. You can ask her again later to do something different, but asking her the same thing over and over again is bad. All that said, find any bullshit reason to talk to her, introduce yourself, and if its going well, ask her on a date. Period.
/r/seduction15/04/14 05:18 PM
16

First of all, this isn't a "rejection" text. She may genuinely be babysitting. You have to stop taking everything as a "rejection." Secondly, the way you react depends on your relationship with the girl, how long you've known her, whether she flakes regularly, etc... I'm going to assume you are new to this relationship with the girl. There are levels of not giving a fuck. Here are some levels: Babysitting till 9 :/ 1) Aww that sucks (Betrays some neediness and emotional investment; also shows se…
/r/seduction15/04/14 05:14 PM
0

Neediness is an emotion. So if you can approach without giving off that emotion, you're fine.
/r/seduction14/04/14 09:55 PM
4

If she doesn't even respond to that then you've got nothing with her.
/r/seduction14/04/14 08:42 PM
-3

Don't listen to the retarded answers the shitheads here give. Just say "of course." But try to get to the bottom of what is prompting this question.
/r/seduction14/04/14 03:38 PM
-1

WHY DOES IT FUCKING MATTER WHAT YOU SAY???? SHE REJECTED YOU. She. Fucking. Rejected. You. She might have been lying. She might not. Either way, she let you know in the clearest way possible she is not interested in pursuing a relationship. Now, of course you can turn it around. YOU CAN ALWAYS TURN IT AROUND. But why even fucking try? There are tons of girls in the world, and a lot of them don't have boyfriends, and a lot of them wouldn't lie to about having a boyfriend if they didn't have one. …
/r/seduction14/04/14 02:23 PM
3

It's not about cheating. It's about the fact that a lot of socially immature shitheads here think that when a girl says "I have a boyfriend" she is lying to "test" them.
/r/seduction14/04/14 02:21 PM
0

There is a chance that you will be able to fuck her still but its not worth pursuing.
/r/seduction14/04/14 02:20 PM
-1

The point of my title, which you don't seem to understand, is that girls don't really want a guy who "doesn't give a shit about them," but rather a guy that doesn't show weird needy emotions. Guys don't understand that difference so they just ignore the girl, which is counterproductive. Jesus Christ.
/r/seduction14/04/14 06:18 AM
0

It reminded me of a girl I knew that for ages made it a mission to tease guys into making a move on her, just to shut them down. Later she would become obsessed with guys that just weren't interested in her. This explains a lot. Jesus Fucking Christ I had an experience with a girl like that this weekend. What on earth is going on in their heads??
/r/seduction13/04/14 09:49 PM
1

You have anxiety. You need to do the normal regimen to get over girls (no contact, go to the gym, etc... )
/r/seduction13/04/14 09:44 PM
3

yeah I'm upset you summarized my entire post without reading it, because you summarized it incorrectly. Stop being a douche
/r/seduction13/04/14 09:01 PM
4

Saying "Don't give a shit about them" makes me think of those douchebags that completely ignore their female friends until they want sex or something else from them. Yeah and if you read the post I say why guys shouldn't act like that.
/r/seduction13/04/14 06:57 PM
6

So basically the top comment is by somebody who didn't read the post? Is this how retarded seddit has become? It's not "don't give a shit about them", it's about not being needy/desperate/easy/insecure. That's what the post fucking says. I just went into an in-depth analysis of it and why some guys mix those 2 things up.
/r/seduction13/04/14 06:55 PM
2

The issue is this: in a healthy relationship both men and women display needy love towards the other person. But in the beginning stages of a relationship men display needy love earlier than women (because men get emotionally invested quicker). Which causes women to freak out, because it takes women longer to develop those same feelings. A big part of seddit is the beginning stages of the relationship, so this is something the guys here need to know.
/r/seduction13/04/14 06:53 PM
10

Jesus Christ. She lives 200 miles away? She's 23 and you're 31?? Why are you even thinking about her? You don't want none of this.
/r/seduction13/04/14 02:57 PM
-3

This is a question only answerable by qualified sociological professionals. First of all, you can say that about anything on seddit Secondly, sociology isn't a real science. Third, sociologists aren't really doing research on this, so I need to add in my 2 cents. Fourth, I never presented my work as science, so nobody is confused
/r/seduction13/04/14 02:52 PM
1

DO NOT DOWNVOTE THIS MAN
/r/seduction13/04/14 02:51 PM
0

That girl is crazy and a ball of conflicting emotions, so there isn't much you could have done. Your best bet is just to have been like "hey you want to go somewhere with me?" That's all you could have done.
/r/seduction13/04/14 02:47 PM
3

i'm in the middle, don't know if I've hit that part yet, but I have gotten to some stuff about neediness
/r/seduction13/04/14 02:31 AM
1

LOL
/r/seduction13/04/14 01:23 AM
5

This is a good point. I should edit my post to make this point. I think I tried to say this a little bit, in that girls don't trust the guy's needy love because its so transient and crazy.
/r/seduction12/04/14 10:59 PM
1

No big deal. But... you should have invited her up.
/r/seduction12/04/14 04:57 PM
8

If you base your self-worth on whether girls like you, you will always be unhappy. Even if you have 100 girls, you will be upset that you don't have the 101th girl. You, like a lot of guys, use seduction as a way of filling a hole in their life, but the fact is, it's a shitty way of filling that hole. You're better off just enjoying your life and finding somebody you care about and enjoy being around.
/r/seduction12/04/14 04:56 PM
2

I have no problem texting twice. Anything after 2 is too much.
/r/seduction12/04/14 02:16 AM
4

You were being creepy when you kept trying to invite yourself back to her place. Escalation stops when she says "no."
/r/seduction12/04/14 01:55 AM
1

Who said I idolized him?
/r/seduction12/04/14 01:51 AM
-2

you're emotionally invested in it. That's what putting pussy on a pedestal is - you get emotionally invested in a girl before she is invested in you. It's ok to get emotionally invested in physical objects like root beer and stuff, but if you get emotionally invested in a person you are asking for trouble.
/r/seduction11/04/14 09:27 PM
1

I'm not "full of shit", I'm giving my opinion. And I'm not pulling this shit out of my ass - Sigmund Freud said a lot of the same things. He believed that a lot of what we are attracted to is socially determined. I believe that.
/r/seduction11/04/14 09:25 PM
-2

Or, you know, you could actually try to read and think about my post instead of dismissing it out of hand.
/r/seduction11/04/14 08:51 PM
-3

Seddit, what is the one physical feature that a woman may have that is a deal maker for you? Resident asshole chiming in: Thinking that "one physical feature" of a woman is a "deal maker" is putting pussy on a pedestal. Here's why: our society teaches us to worship women and especially their physical features. But if we do so, then we are putting them on a pedestal. Men are evolutionary wired to have sex ... that's it. Everything else (fetishes, big butts, etc...) is just something society taugh…
/r/seduction11/04/14 08:35 PM
2

Women have a complicated series of emotions. Women never really "like" guys until loooong after first meeting them, so even if a guy is a potential candidate they will reject him if things don't feel right.
/r/seduction11/04/14 08:31 PM
0

Role playing? What the fuck is that?? Look, every girl likes you a certain amount. Some girls like you a lot, some like you a little. If they like you a little, all the texting in the world isn't going to make them like you more. If they like you a lot, you can wait 6 months to text them and they still will like you (I literally have girls I text every 3-4 months and they are still down to hang out with me every time). The reason the common advice is to not text too much is you don't want to loo…
/r/seduction11/04/14 05:18 PM
2

People usually approach people they think they have a chance with. If guys aren't approaching you, it's probably because they are intimidated by you, or don't think they are good enough for you, etc... It may because of your body language (you may have a mean-looking face, or you may not look like you are having fun), or it may be because of a million other things. You might be hanging out at the wrong places. Ask yourself this: these people who you want to approach you, are these people you wou…
/r/seduction11/04/14 02:21 PM
1

OP you need therapy. No girl is going to fuck you if you don't kiss her. That's just too weird. You need to get over this fear.
/r/seduction10/04/14 09:21 PM
8

No the problem is that most PUAs don't understand negging and they actually do say shit like that. But the real issue is that a girl that needs to be "negged" usually has issues (mostly related to narcissism) and even if you do get her in bed she will be a bitch and cause problems for you. But it seems like most guys here don't seem to give a fuck - they'll take any pussy they can get.
/r/seduction10/04/14 09:06 PM
1

Our mutual friend had a birthday on Tuesday, and this girl asked me if I could help her choose flowers, I obviously said I could. Why did you do that? It's not your responsibility to run her errands. If she would do the same for you, you can do it, but if doesn't do shit for you like that, then don't. So, what happens next is she starts ignoring me on the next day. So she used you to run some errands with her, and then when she stopped needing you, she ignores you. Makes perfect sense. This girl…
/r/seduction10/04/14 08:35 PM
2

Depends on how emotionally developed you are. Some people still get insane crushes in adulthood and oftentimes those crushes really damage their life, especially if the person they are crushing on is insecure and/or manipulative and takes advantage of them. Intelligent and emotionally mature people don't let themselves "fall" for people that don't have the same feelings for them.
/r/seduction10/04/14 06:27 PM
1

If I understand correctly, to counter this I can lower their perceived value in my head or increase my own value by working on myself. Just stop thinking in terms of "value" altogether and just talk to people like they were regular people and not like you want something from them. Just try to make legitimate emotional connections with people.
/r/seduction10/04/14 06:07 PM
5

Girls don't know what they want. If they did, they could just tell you and there would be no seddit. Secondly, don't do shit just because a girl tells you to. IF a girl told me to text her 5-6 times a day I wouldn't do it even if she did like it. Ain't nobody got time for that.
/r/seduction10/04/14 06:05 PM
-4

This this this
/r/seduction10/04/14 05:21 PM
22

This story illustrates an important lesson for PUA dorks: if you play this retarded game where you "neg" girls the type of girls you attract will be crazy bitches with mental problems.
/r/seduction10/04/14 02:32 PM
3

Why does it matter how you react? Worst case scenario is that she loudly calls you a douchebag and tells you to never talk to her again, and everybody in the bar erupts laughing at you. What do? Go to another bar.
/r/seduction10/04/14 10:14 AM
-5

Sounds like a way to get kicked out of the bar.
/r/seduction09/04/14 11:11 PM
0

Or you can just text her something interesting and/or funny.
/r/seduction09/04/14 11:09 PM
2

why would anybody shit on improv classes? they're fun, you get funnier, they are a great hobby, tons of hot girls take those classes, etc...
/r/seduction09/04/14 04:49 PM
1

Do you live in Atlanta? Cuz everybody's gotten that blonde architect's number.
/r/seduction09/04/14 03:23 PM
-7

No that's his quote and you're using out without giving credit
/r/seduction09/04/14 03:21 PM
2

please tell me you called him out on it.
/r/seduction09/04/14 02:20 PM
13

Roll with it? Are you fucking kidding me? I'm so sick of this r/seddit mindset that any rude or disrespectful thing a girl says is a "shit test" and you have to ignore it. If I was with a girl and she said something racist, no matter how good the "mood" was or anything, I would be like "what the fuck did you just say?" and end the interaction. Period. It's 2014 - people know better than to be racist. You will eliminate a shithead from your life, and if you still want to bang her, you look a mill…
/r/seduction09/04/14 02:19 PM
6

Be less emotionally invested in her than she is in you.
/r/seduction09/04/14 02:17 PM
7

at least give credit to mark manson for that quote dude
/r/seduction09/04/14 02:17 PM
5

humor is the result of social value. I completely disagree. There is no formula to humor, so you can't reduce it to a concept or gimmick, but it has very little to do with social value. Most of the most hilarious comedians are fat, ugly, short, self-deprecating, etc... In fact, in my time doing comedy I've noticed that the attractive, well-dressed guys usually do the worst. It's mostly because they are used to being validated and accepted so they can't take the risks that are necessary for comed…
/r/seduction09/04/14 09:42 AM
5

Any other response in this thread is inadequate; GO DO COMEDY Every city has an open-mike/improv/stand up scene. Go participate. It's fun, you meet people, and you get funnier. And if you're scared of putting yourself out there in front of people, you sure as hell won't get good at seduction. Otherwise, you can't fit funny into a formula.
/r/seduction09/04/14 09:40 AM
-2

dude calm down
/r/seduction09/04/14 05:43 AM
1

Yikes! I didn't get that advice out of a book, I got it from personal experience, tons of FRs that dudes have posted on here, and my tons of girl friends who tell me about all the guys who confess their love for them on a daily basis. So... I'm pretty confident that telling girls that you like them doesn't work. It may have worked for you... oh wait, no it didn't. So I don't know why you're mad.
/r/seduction09/04/14 05:39 AM
2

What does not believing in inspirational quotes have to do with being happy?
/r/seduction09/04/14 01:29 AM
-6

Please look up "joke" in the dictionary, please.
/r/seduction09/04/14 12:34 AM
0

If you've gotten to 50 you need to set your sights higher. Also watch out for herpes. 1/4 women have it, so statistically you've gotten in 12 times by now.
/r/seduction09/04/14 12:12 AM
7

You add them to your list if you only make out with them? Who does that???
/r/seduction08/04/14 11:22 PM
1

yeah but the "real world experience" you're talking about is all about picking up girls. That has nothing to do with actually improving yourself as a person.
/r/seduction08/04/14 11:21 PM
7

I'm sorry, but improving yourself has nothing to do with whether you can get girls. There are tons of PUAs who are sad sacks of shit and have terrible personal lives. There are tons of confident people that live amazing lives that suck with girls.
/r/seduction08/04/14 11:11 PM
-11

Sorry to be the party pooper, but life is too complicated to be reduced to quotes. Everybody I see on Facebook that posts inspirational quotes is usually living a pretty pathetic life.
/r/seduction08/04/14 10:50 PM
1

A lot of times when girls act like this THEY WANT you to put them in their place. OP kind of did this a little bit, but he could have just gotten to the point a lot earlier if he had been like "you're being a bitch, I'm leaving."
/r/seduction08/04/14 09:07 PM
10

The Bible Come at me, bros
/r/seduction08/04/14 08:43 PM
3

don't sit opposite her
/r/seduction08/04/14 08:32 PM
2

AA comes from the fear of rejection. To overcome your fear of rejection, just remember that there is nothing wrong with approaching people and if they act like an asshole, it's their problem, not yours. Just go out and talk to people. Chances are, you won't click with 99% of the people you talk to. But its still fun!
/r/seduction08/04/14 07:19 PM
15

I go aloof when a man appears to be interested but does not take any action to confirm it. I cannot tell the difference if he is just looking or actually interested. This is an important point a lot of guys here need to learn. If you like a girl, you have to tell a girl you want to date her. You don't need to supplicate and act needy, but just staring or hanging around like a creep is bad.
/r/seduction08/04/14 07:18 PM
1

stop caring at all
/r/seduction08/04/14 05:32 PM
8

A basis of this community is the idea that game is a science. No, the game is not a science. You can't reduce human beings to a formula. There are certain general statements you can make (i.e., guys don't like being kicked in the nuts) but other than that its too fluid. The biggest problem with the PUA community right now is that everybody wants to make it a science. PUAs are dorks and they hope to find the right mixture of concepts and formulas that will make any girl want to sleep with them. Y…
/r/seduction08/04/14 05:31 PM
2

No you should end a date if a girl is being a bitch. 99% of the time if the girl is being a bitch she isn't going to fuck you.
/r/seduction08/04/14 05:27 PM
1

This
/r/seduction08/04/14 05:07 PM
1

I don't care. I was making a point I thought was important.
/r/seduction08/04/14 05:05 PM
6

i'm just trying to be a mysterious, funny, not give to much away and not ask them heaps of personal questions so i don't come across as too needy/interested in them. So basically, girls hate you because you are trying too hard to be a PUA robot instead of being yourself. Why don't you try being yourself? Stop thinking about all this shit. Just be yourself. Talk about what you're interested in. And there's nothing wrong with personal questions.
/r/seduction08/04/14 04:06 PM
1

I do have a crush on her and but I don't want to be too obvious cause I'm afraid the dynamic of the group might get fucked up and especially if she doesn't like me back it's gonna get very awkward. Dude you either ask her out or you don't. If you're afraid of the "dynamic of the group" then give up.
/r/seduction08/04/14 04:05 PM
1

It seemed he had pretty high self-esteem and belief in himself to navigate through this sea of shit tests haha. Jesus Christ. If you were in a bar and you saw dude A talking to dude B like that and dude B was just taking it you would think dude B was a bitch. It's no different with girls. There are plenty of girls that would fuck you without giving you all that shit so hanging around and letting a girl straight up disrespect you is a sign of low self-esteem. And this "hey man it was a challenge"…
/r/seduction08/04/14 04:04 PM
0

I'm sorry but "telling a girl how you feel" never works. Girls are constantly having guys confess their love to them. Shit, I have a friend who works at Hooters and gets 3-4 marriage proposals a day. It doesn't mean shit to them. As Florence Welch says "words are empty air." You have to prove it with your actions. And your actions were shitty towards her.
/r/seduction08/04/14 04:00 PM
1

Not the self esteem so much as a terminal case of yellow fever. It's practically a fetish. The whole "she's really hot so its ok if she treats me like shit" is a terrible mindset. and only people with insecurity want "a challenge." What you SHOULD want is somebody you emotionally connect with that you actually enjoy being around.
/r/seduction08/04/14 03:52 PM
1

This idea that "no girl is too good for you" is a bunch of a bullshit PUA fantasy advice meant to give dudes with no self-esteem the confidence to approach. But the reality is that some girls are too good for you - it's fine, you can still hang out with them and fuck them, but you shouldn't get attached to them because they aren't here for long. If you're a broke 22 year old college student and you're dating a 26 year old woman with a job and shit, you should be honest with yourself and know tha…
/r/seduction08/04/14 03:51 PM
3

Sounds like a good idea for an app, don't see what it has to do with pickup though.
/r/seduction08/04/14 09:31 AM
3

The "pussy at all costs" mentality is pathetic and only leads to dudes losing shit loads of money, time, and dignity chasing cunty fuckhead girls.
/r/seduction08/04/14 09:30 AM
2

I think that attitude is a NY move. I met a NY girl in New Orleans 2 weeks ago and it was similar with her, shit test after shit test. First of all, generalizing the girls in the biggest and most diverse city in the world is retarded. Plus, I lived in NY for 2 years and I never ran into a girl like that. Girls in NY are desperate because there is a guy shortage, so there is no reason to put up with that bullshit. It sounds like you're just like OP: a low self-esteem dude who takes too much shit …
/r/seduction08/04/14 09:28 AM
1

He even said himself that his mantra was "Nothing is a big deal", so he truly believed it and didn't care. How is that different from a woman who is in a abusive relationship who keeps saying "it's fine, it's fine." Fact is, the guy got shitted on repeatedly. If he goes through life with this attitude, he's going to get treated like shit by girls and it will wreck his self-esteem, his dignity, and probably his wallet. And guess what? 99% of girls who pull that shit on you aren't going to end up …
/r/seduction08/04/14 09:25 AM
1

No, only hookah
/r/seduction08/04/14 03:45 AM
6

what does that even mean
/r/seduction08/04/14 03:44 AM
8

This and thread
/r/seduction08/04/14 03:44 AM
3

I wouldn't take anything HappyJerk says to heart, he's giving some of the worst advice I've seen in a while. I'm sorry, there is no "better" or "worse" advice. Nobody here is a professional at this shit, we're all giving our opinion. And your opinion is no more valid than mine. My mindset (which you don't even describe, so I don't even know what you're criticizing) works for me, but it may not work for you.
/r/seduction08/04/14 03:43 AM
1

If you're at a far distance and you still care ... then you have oneitis. Just ignore her and move on with your life. If you're ever in her city, call her up.
/r/seduction08/04/14 03:42 AM
0

You have to admit that sometimes a girl is too good for you. A fat loser living in his moms basement can date a Victorias Secret model, but he should knownits not gonna last long.
/r/seduction08/04/14 02:05 AM
2

No thanks
/r/seduction08/04/14 02:03 AM
2

Yes, every major city has a shortage of guys. I mean, they have GUYS, but there are way more educated, professional women than there educated, professional men. And women are basically attracted to men doing better than them, so if you are an educated, professional guy in NYC you are golden.
/r/seduction07/04/14 10:59 PM
1

Have you ever heard of the friendzone? She's still interested even if not attratcted. What the fuck are you talking about
/r/seduction07/04/14 10:58 PM
1

No women do not like to dominate men. They only do "shit tests" to see if the man is going to take their domination (in which case, the main fails and the woman loses attraction) or if the man one-ups her and shows he will not be dominated (in which case he passes).
/r/seduction07/04/14 10:54 PM
0

If you're with somebody too good for you, then you don't feel bad when they disappear because it was bound to happen. It hurts more when a girl you SHOULD like you ends up liking somebody else. Oneitis isn't just about being with somebody awesome, but also about the fact that you feel that the other person wants you too.
/r/seduction07/04/14 10:53 PM
-6

He is very clearly seducing the room, which is essentially what all charismatic speakers do. Uh, no. Seductive smirk at :25 seconds. After that, it's more of the same--seductive smirking, marinatin', and space--but he really drags it out nicely because he knows he's got us. OP are you sure you're not gay? I'm sure shit like this works but who cares? Just focus on being confident and having fun, and don't worry about these details.
/r/seduction07/04/14 10:39 PM
2

Why would you want to do this? It's better in real life.
/r/seduction07/04/14 10:37 PM
0

Well you seem to know what you did wrong, so you don't need help there. Remember, the Iron Law of Seduction: you need to be less emotionally invested in them. I bet you $20 she comes back, but you shouldn't want her back. As for your one-itis, you need to realize that if you can get this girl, you can get others like her (and if you can't get others like her then she was too good for you so no big loss). Also, oneitis happens when a girl makes you feel special. Well, you should remember to never…
/r/seduction07/04/14 10:29 PM
7

Slow down and speak deeply. Also hold your dick in your hand when you talk.
/r/seduction07/04/14 10:16 PM
0

Cuz she's a bitch and enjoys wielding power over guys. Women like to be dominated, not to dominate. So if a girl is dominating you, that means she doesn't really see you romantically.
/r/seduction07/04/14 10:15 PM
9

I'm sorry to sound like a dick, but this post highlights everything that is wrong with the PUA community and seddit. You basically let another human being treat you like shit for four hours in return for some probably mediocre sex. You would have been better off getting a prostitute. There were a million places in that story you should have just left. And the fact that you still pursued here is somewhat creepy. It's good to be aggressive and assume attraction, but there should always be a point …
/r/seduction07/04/14 09:29 PM
1

No there is a huge girl shortage in NYC, so those girls know to behave better.
/r/seduction07/04/14 09:22 PM
1

I think routines and games and all that bullshit are for guys who don't have enough confidence/personality/intelligence/etc... to pull it off in real time. And the fact is ... most guys don't. Think about it logically ... what would connect more with a girl? A comment you made that logically hooks into something that is happening there in real time, or a pre-planned routine out of a book?
/r/seduction07/04/14 07:45 PM
3

When you "push" you don't do it by saying shitty things, you do it by losing interest and getting distracted by other things.
/r/seduction07/04/14 07:36 PM
-10

Yeah I'm going to send pics of the girls I've had sex with to some internet weirdos who spend all day on r/seddit. And why would I be lying? Do you really think its impossible for a man to have sex with Playboy Playmates? There has been a different one each month for over 50 years now .... those girls must be banging somebody! It's part of this loser mentality to just assume that if somebody says they had sex with a model or a playboy playmate they must be lying because clearly its impossible fo…
/r/seduction07/04/14 05:15 PM
-1

I did for a while. I live in Atlanta now.
/r/seduction07/04/14 05:13 PM
1

I personally wouldn't bother.
/r/seduction07/04/14 04:45 PM
2

This is a good list, but you failed to mention holding deep eye contact, while slowly taking your dick out.
/r/seduction07/04/14 04:45 PM
4

Depends on why they're doing it. If she just wants attention, dont' bother. If she likes you, ask her on a date. Easy-peasy
/r/seduction07/04/14 04:44 PM
-7

First of all, there was nothing humble about my brag. Secondly, yes, the whole Playboy thing is passe, but a lot of guys would still give their left nut to bang a chick who's been in Playboy. All that said, the point is that when I was OP's age, I also thought I was "behind" and would never get my shit together. But the fact is, sexual experience is overrated and you can always make a comeback.
/r/seduction07/04/14 04:41 PM
-3

Don't let it happen. You shouldn't have your books and shit out like that if you don't want girls to know what you're doing. And girls definitely shouldn't be on your computer.
/r/seduction07/04/14 04:18 PM
-2

Don't just try to kiss her. Tell her you are interested in her romantically and you want to date her. Otherwise, you look like a creep.
/r/seduction07/04/14 04:17 PM
2

It's more like on the internet anybody who ever talks about something cool/awesome/positive that happened in their life is automatically called an "arrogant asshole." Usually by people who have not had those successes.
/r/seduction07/04/14 04:17 PM
1

You were over-aggressive and creepy. You can still try to email her though.
/r/seduction07/04/14 03:32 PM
-1

I lost my virginity at 21 and now at age 30 I've dated/banged all kinds of crazy women (playboy playmates, models, pop stars, etc..) EDIT: why are you downvoting me? I'm trying to give OP some motivation. Damn haters!!
/r/seduction07/04/14 03:31 PM
0

"Hey I had fun last night. I'll call you at X time."
/r/seduction07/04/14 02:30 PM
7

First of all, don't try to fuck your tutor. Focus on learning. Second, ask her on a date.
/r/seduction07/04/14 02:29 PM
23

You're becoming an attention whore. You need the validation that comes from knowing a girl likes you. Knock it off.
/r/seduction07/04/14 01:03 PM
1

1) Control the conversation and the logistics of the date. 2) Don't express needy emotions - remember, you don't want anything from her nor do you feel like its your responsbility to entertain her/qualify yourself/etc... 3) No matter how good you think the date is going, draw boundaries and call her out and/or leave if she does anything disrespectful and/or rude.
/r/seduction07/04/14 07:47 AM
1

I also go to parties once in a while to see but nothing so far. You see nothing? At all? How about this: make some friends. Girls, guys, whatever. Become part of a social group.
/r/seduction07/04/14 02:53 AM
1

This isn't fun at all. You're just doing this because you're afraid of making real approaches.
/r/seduction07/04/14 12:33 AM
1

That would be even creepier
/r/seduction07/04/14 12:27 AM
1

Spam
/r/seduction06/04/14 01:05 AM
5

They'd think he was being a creep because they know that deep diwn that's not what he really wants
/r/seduction05/04/14 11:33 PM
13

Laughing is better than macing you
/r/seduction05/04/14 11:32 PM
2

She likes him as a friend, not an object of lust
/r/seduction05/04/14 11:31 PM
1

So what if you get kicked out?
/r/seduction05/04/14 11:30 PM
2

4 to 5 million, depends if its a leap year
/r/seduction05/04/14 11:28 PM
1

Stand up comedy or improv. Basically any kind of art - painting, drawing, etc...
/r/seduction05/04/14 11:27 PM
3

I remember that I'm not a woman and it doesnt matter
/r/seduction05/04/14 11:26 PM
2

that girl sounds like a shitball. I would drop her.
/r/seduction05/04/14 08:53 PM
0

that's what you call a girl hitting you up at 2am out of the blue? OMG OMG OMG a girl called you!!! Wow you must be right. AH that explains your dumb posts in this thread. you're in the wrong sub bro... This is r/seduction, not r/stds
/r/seduction05/04/14 07:43 AM
0

Based on the guy's username I can totally see why he doesn't get women LOL But if not then damn! Who is this guy? He must have worked real hard at perfecting his game LOL
/r/seduction05/04/14 07:42 AM
0

You're.buzzing off of 2 beers? Lol
/r/seduction05/04/14 05:37 AM
-1

you feel that way because you can't even picture yourself saying that line from a position of power. chasing a girl that's in a relationship is never a position of power. btw the friend who came up with it fucked over 100 girls last year. First of all, that's disgusting. Second, most of the guys that fuck that many girls are fucking lots of fatties and/or girls with problems. So congratulations on scraping the bottom of the barrel.
/r/seduction05/04/14 04:49 AM
0

my friend likes to use this line: "call me next time you have a fight with your ex" That's the most pathetic, needy thing I've ever seen. It's basically saying "hey I don't have a real life nor do I bang hot girls. I'm just going to sit by the phone and wait until you have a problem with your ex."
/r/seduction05/04/14 04:24 AM
3

1) There is a thing in our society known as police. If he tries to fight you, call them. There is no use in trying to look like a tough guy or any of that. That's a childish, low-class mentality. 2) If you're going to date this girl, set clear boundaries as to what you will and will not accept. Her talking to her ex? Fine. Her talking about her ex all the time? Not fine. Her bringing her ex around? Not fine. Her ditching you to hang out with the ex? Not fine. Etc... 3) If he tries to talk to you…
/r/seduction05/04/14 04:23 AM
3

First of all, don't beat yourself up. Some girls are just weird. If she's foreign she may think you were being over-aggressive or whatever. Foreign girls are weird. I feel like I missed so many kino opportunities. There are no "opportunities" - you just have to do it. That's the hardest thing about kino - it feels weird going for it, especially if the girl is acting coldly towards you. Doesn't matter - you gotta go for it!! I tried to get a conversation going by playing the questions game. If a …
/r/seduction05/04/14 02:53 AM
1

Why the hell are we having conversations over text? Texting is for one thing - LOGISTICS
/r/seduction04/04/14 10:49 PM
0

Don't be excited
/r/seduction04/04/14 08:30 PM
1

Regardless of whether he's being a nerd or not, calling him a nerd adds nothing to the discussion Regardless of whether he's being an asshole or not, calling him an asshole adds nothing to the discussion. Regardless of whether he's being a misognyist or not, calling him a misogynist adds nothing to the discussion. Regardless of whether he's being a or not, calling him a misogynist adds nothing to the discussion. See how you're argument is wrong? I haven't defended misogyny. I actually just wrote…
/r/seduction04/04/14 08:28 PM
2

so I should put my astronaut helmet on? I can't do that in a bakery.
/r/seduction04/04/14 08:03 PM
2

Stereotypically, women are bad at science and even less likely to know that. Jesus Fucking Christ. The fact that this post gets any upvotes whatsoever makes me fear for the future of humanity.
/r/seduction04/04/14 07:04 PM
1

Firstly, stop the name calling. This is a seduction community. You aren't improving it by throwing out useless ad hominems. The only reason you'd start in with "OP is a nerd" is for a few selfish upvotes. Stop it. No I called OP he's a nerd because he's being a nerd. This is a big problem on r/seddit and in the PUA community. You can't break down women into a few simple variables. They are human beings and incredibly complicated and you can't make generalizations based on a bunch of shit you've …
/r/seduction04/04/14 07:03 PM
2

It my mind, it jut seems 99% likely that a girl is just going to walk off or act like she is really unappreciative that I decided to interrupt her day with my small talk. So what? Plus, the actual starting off bit is very hard and my lack of experience means I have never really said "hey, I think you're cute" to girl before. Don't say it then . Say whatever you want to say. Say "hi, my name is X" or "where do you the missing jetliner went?" Etc... But if you do want to throw your laptop out the …
/r/seduction04/04/14 03:30 PM
1

Here's my view: True blue AA never goes away. It is human nature to be afraid of rejection, and you can't just turn off an important emotion. A lot of the advice here is stupid: people say to "pump yourself up" to "get in state" so you won't feel AA - that's basically like doing a line of coke to approach, yes you will approach, but you are putting yourself in an unnatural emotional state to accomplish a stupid goal and it quickly wears off when you "get out of state." What you really need is ho…
/r/seduction04/04/14 03:29 PM
34

OP, I'm going to say this in the nicest way possible, so don't be offended. You are a fucking nerd and you are looking at the world like a nerd would. You are looking at women like a computer program where you put in certain variables and you get a certain result. They are not that. Women are people and as people they are all different. Furthermore, women are very emotional people, whose emotions are constantly changing and shifting. You claim to be "flabbergasted" that women sometimes think eye…
/r/seduction04/04/14 03:24 PM
2

how would I know that? It's r/seduction, people post way stupider shit being serious all the time.
/r/seduction03/04/14 11:52 PM
4

You care too much. Youve got to not care if the girl never talks to you again.
/r/seduction03/04/14 08:04 PM
6

No
/r/seduction03/04/14 08:03 PM
1

Thanks!
/r/seduction03/04/14 12:55 PM
2

Who cares? If you can't control it, there is no point dwelling on it.
/r/seduction03/04/14 01:13 AM
1

Most guys lie about how much sex they're getting. On top of that, a lot of those guys put in waaaay too much effort for the actual returns they receive.
/r/seduction02/04/14 07:06 PM
1

one or two of my friends are getting laid by their girlfriends and this makes me desperate to get a girlfriend bad bad bad The whole point of outcome independence is that you don't care about what other people are doing. Just focus on becoming a better you (lift, dress better, focus on fun activities) and girls will come to you.
/r/seduction02/04/14 06:14 PM
9

There are no women here, who are you talking to.
/r/seduction02/04/14 04:17 PM
0

Tinder is not a real conversation. the whole excitement of a conversation is the emotional investment both parties have in it and people on Tinder don't give 2 fucks about you. Go meet real people.
/r/seduction02/04/14 03:11 PM
24

Don't unsubscribe. One of the problems PUAs have is that they get super emotional about everything. They get super emotional about reading, and they get super emotional about approaching, and then they get super emotional that they read too much, etc... Don't do extreme things. Not giving a fuck means controlling your emotions.
/r/seduction02/04/14 02:23 PM
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this is all really good advice
/r/seduction02/04/14 01:27 PM
2

Anyone else feel like they subconsciously mirror people? Yes, it's normal. But you have to break out of that when interacting with girls. You have to set the frame for the interaction, the emotions, the topic of conversation, etc... It's going to be weird because you're used to going with the emotional flow of the conversation, but now you have to take the deal and take hte interaction to where YOU want to take it, even if the other person may not seem receptive right away.
/r/seduction02/04/14 01:26 PM
1

In my humble opinion, anybody who "negs" on purpose is a douche. Furthermore, girls see through negs 99% of the time.
/r/seduction01/04/14 11:20 PM
1

Catching oneitis easily is a sign of general unhappiness with your life.
/r/seduction01/04/14 11:19 PM
-2

this whole post smells like ewww. You need to focus on forming emotional connections with girls, not playing games like a 12 year old.
/r/seduction01/04/14 07:55 PM
2

Look, you don't need "seduction" advice. You aren't trying to bang your girlfriend. You need relationship advice. So the "talk about it answer/openly communicate" answer is the right one. I would just say "It's kind of weird you keep bringing him up. Do you have feelings for him?"
/r/seduction01/04/14 07:32 PM
28

Tell her you want to date her. Just do it. Don't wait for IOIs or other green lights. You have to just do it.
/r/seduction01/04/14 06:47 PM
10

ok good argument, glad we had this conversation
/r/seduction01/04/14 05:10 PM
2

Tips are for losers. Do you think jay z or brad pitt need "tips"? Then why woyld.you?
/r/seduction01/04/14 03:29 PM
2

OP is exactly right. A lot of the people on reddit are "dorks." By "dorks" I mean they are smart guys who did very well in school and think that everything is like school, where if they study enough and learn the concepts well enough they will pass the test. The problem is that human interaction is all about emotion, not tricks and techniques. Specifically, the emotion you need to learn is confidence, abundance mentality, and having a fun and interesting life. You can learn all the tricks and te…
/r/seduction01/04/14 01:20 PM
1

Ask them out on a date.
/r/seduction01/04/14 07:59 AM
27

Wrong! "pursuing a few girls" just exacerbates the problem. The real problem is that hee needs girls to make him happy. You don't need girls to be happy! You can be perfectly happy without girls! Girls are just a fun addition to life - the icing on the cake. You need to build a life where if a girl doesn't ever want to talk to you again you would totally be fine with it.
/r/seduction01/04/14 07:58 AM
0

I think your just forgetting that you see things differently with your experience than he does (: The whole thing about being "better" at something is that you know what to do and what not to do. Focusing on your smirt is a retarded waste of time. Focusing on actually having fun is not. It's that easy.
/r/seduction01/04/14 04:50 AM
2

I find I have the hardest time dealing with the last point. If you base your value as a person on whether you get girls your life will be fucking miserable. Not only will you attract shallow/shitty friends, you will find yourself in crappy relationships because you will only date girls who are hot. This is the main thing wrong with our society: you have to realize that girls are just a small part of your life.
/r/seduction31/03/14 11:18 PM
6

Look, focusing on how to "smirt" is a fucking waste of time. Instead of wasting your time picking up all this random information focus on actually being a confident/happy person, and it will just happen for you. I used to be like you - I would read all these books and try to learn "techniques" - but once you're actually face to face with a girl your mind goes fucking blank. Talking to another human being is an extremely emotional experience and it clouds your mind, so you can't remember "techniq…
/r/seduction31/03/14 11:08 PM
3

Twice is enough
/r/seduction31/03/14 09:22 PM
1

How do you stay motivated after a bad/embarrassing rejection? Learn something from it and don't do it again. If you learn at least one thing every time you go out (you can learn shit when you succeed too) you are away ahead of the game. Here's what you can learn from this experience: don't get drunk around girls don't be a fucking idiot don't try to fuck your friends don't care about whether people think you are good with girls.
/r/seduction31/03/14 09:19 PM
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Why are you even texting her? Just ask her out and hang out with her in person. If you text her to hang out and she bullshits, guess what, she's not into you, she's just using you for attention. Also, you can't say that "the kinkiest girl I've ever talked to" unless you've actually fucked her. A lot of girls will say kinky shit for attention but then not actually hang out with you.
/r/seduction31/03/14 09:18 PM
-2

Jesus Christ you guys are overthinking this. If you were actually a confident and fun-loving person all this shit comes naturally. Stop thinking about your smile and just go out and have fun.
/r/seduction31/03/14 09:16 PM
1

depends on the context of the conversation, but usually its ok (or just say "I don't care"). Why? Because its extremely rude and disrespectful to talk about other guys with a guy you are dating. I would never talk about other girls with a girl I was dating, and if I did, I would hope and expect her to be like "stop that."
/r/seduction31/03/14 09:16 PM
1

true. alot of the "Tricks" learned here are basically ways of pretending you are confident.
/r/seduction31/03/14 06:05 PM
1

Don't. It's douchey to "neg" somebody and she's probably heard it a million times. fuck negging. I wish that concept would just die. The main reason people hate PUAs is cuz they sound like assholes when they try to "neg."
/r/seduction31/03/14 05:41 PM
1

This movie looks fucking terrible. Also, how the hell are you going to make a good movie for 4,000 pounds?
/r/seduction31/03/14 04:25 PM
3

Here's the thing: it's really weird for people to walk up to random strangers and start a conversation. It just is. Our society teaches us against doing that in most normal situations. It's even weirder to approach a girl in a romantic/flirty way because you are basically asking her to begin a process with you that will end with your dick her mouth. It's awkward. Furthermore, talking to a random girl is different than talking to any other random person because you immediately have to start talki…
/r/seduction31/03/14 03:12 PM
3

Go up to them and introduce yourself. Smile, be friendly, but not overly needy or weird. At the end of the conversation say, "hey it was great to talk to you, I'd like to hang out sometime, here's my number." Fact is, a lot of guys will be weirded out because its so rare for a girl to approach a guy. And of course, some guys will be dicks. That said, you have to take the chance.
/r/seduction31/03/14 05:49 AM
1

Depends on a million different factors
/r/seduction31/03/14 04:08 AM
12

Depends on what they are doing. If you are at a bar and they are flirting with another guy, just say "you guys look like a great couple" and go do something else. If you're supposed to go on a "date" and she brings another guy (I've had that happen) ignore her and talk to the guy. Become friends with him and start making fun of her with him. If she invites you to something and she spends all her time with another guy, you can say something like "hey I'm not having fun" and leave. If she presses …
/r/seduction31/03/14 03:39 AM
5

Do you really need advice on how to smile? Smile like you're fucking happy. Think about something happy and smile. That's really it. IF they think your smile looks weird they can go kick rocks. You can't overthink every little thing or else you'll have a nervous breakdown.
/r/seduction31/03/14 02:59 AM
10

Girls get drunk and do stupid shit at bars all the time. The way you filter out those girls from the serious ones is that you introduce yourself and ask them their name. That puts the pressure on them to have an adult interaction. Sometimes they will run away because now shit is too real. Sometimes they will reciprocate and now you're having an interaction. But don't buy her a drink.
/r/seduction30/03/14 11:20 PM
1

Not everything is a shit test dude. When she said you could have been like "why not? Do you believe in gender equality?" or some shit. You could have an interesting dicussion about her feminism. Everybody else who posts on this thread will advise you to say something stupid and unfunny.
/r/seduction30/03/14 11:18 PM
1

Your age doesn't matter. You know how to act around women. Youre not "behind."
/r/seduction30/03/14 03:20 AM
1

I think that's a silly thing to do unless you hang out with some really pathetic or stupid girls. Even if there is a 10% chance she says no, you look like a complete fucknut. I would just be a fucking adult and ask her on a date.
/r/seduction29/03/14 08:41 PM
1

don't follow that guys' advice.
/r/seduction29/03/14 08:37 PM
1

I'd probably just ask casually if she'd want to fool around some time. Who does that? Whenever you fuck your friends (which is rare) it just kinds of happens. You can't "ask" a girl to fool around with you that you're not dating. Ask her on a fucking date first.
/r/seduction29/03/14 08:37 PM
5

I'm not sure I have effectively established that "man-to-woman" vibe (HUGE sticking point for me lately). You need to ask girls out on date. You need to make your intentions clear. "Are we dating? Do you want to fuck me? Etc..." Otherwise, you look like a creep going in for a move. This shit happens to girls all the time ... they think a guy is their friend, and BAM, he randomly tries to kiss them. Don't be that guy. What I like to do in this situation is make a joke about dating. You should be …
/r/seduction29/03/14 08:21 PM
3

you're not going to pick up girls at the movies. just watch the movie and go out afterwards
/r/seduction29/03/14 07:47 PM
10

I fuck girls in real life
/r/seduction29/03/14 07:46 PM
1

I'm saying if you've ever created anything worth a shit you would have a different attitude about protecting your creations, and you wouldn't think it was "selfish" and "unnecessary" to want people to stop copying your shit. The only people I've ever met that were anti-IP were people that don't actually create anything.
/r/seduction29/03/14 07:46 PM
1

Have you ever created anything anybody cares about?
/r/seduction29/03/14 06:33 PM
4

pretty good, except you have to do a few more things before the last part
/r/seduction29/03/14 05:33 PM
2

Then tell her you will accept the breakfast & bloody mary plans if she stays over the night before. ewww don't do this
/r/seduction29/03/14 05:12 PM
6

Put on some music start a deep conversation look into her eyes and then pull your D out
/r/seduction29/03/14 05:01 PM
2

There are no "leagues." I'm being dead serious. I'm not saying that as some pseudo-motivational bullshit advice. There are no leagues. As you grow up in life you will super hot super awesome with the worst men on earth ALL THE FUCKING TIME. You will kick yourself if you fuck this up and later see her with a guy who is even lamer than you. I like this girl but I have no idea on how to proceed without completely screwing up my chances with her. Ask her on a nice date, and be confident, etc... Don'…
/r/seduction29/03/14 05:00 PM
2

this
/r/seduction29/03/14 05:00 PM
-1

How do you push a friend to get to your level game-wise? People ask this on seddit all the time and the answer is this: YOU FUCKING CAN'T. Here's why: talking to people, being social, and getting girls to like you is an extremely, extremely emotional thing, and it brings out people's biggest fears, insecurities and pride. So most people don't appreciate somebody telling them they are "doing it wrong." It's almost like you are personally insulting them. You are definitely wounding their pride. I …
/r/seduction29/03/14 04:59 PM
0

no you just send youtube a DMCA notice
/r/seduction29/03/14 04:53 PM
1

done
/r/seduction29/03/14 04:52 PM
4

Dude you don't know shit about copyright law so why are you offering your opinion? Yes, my words were copyrighted. They are copyrighted the instant I wrote them and published them. You don't need to register a copyright. And you sure as hell don't need a patent. And the problem isn't that he redistributed my advice. It's that he copied it word for word and didn't even give me any credit. YOu can't copyright ideas, but you can copyright expression. I can't copyright the concept of dumping somebod…
/r/seduction29/03/14 04:52 PM
2

Ah, the internet skeptics come out. You've done your job.
/r/seduction29/03/14 04:50 PM
0

Yeah it does happen all the time on the internet, but nobody does anything about it because lawyers are expensive. But I am one, so I can do it for the cheap. All I really need to do is just threaten him. Also, you don't need to register your copyright to sue, but its still not too late for me to do that.
/r/seduction29/03/14 04:49 PM
1

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1vpxcb/how_i_ask_girls_out/
/r/seduction29/03/14 09:51 AM
1

It has nothing to do with being tough. If a girl is interested in another guy then you are a douchey fuckface if you stay around and try to win her.back. I've tried it in the past; it doesn't work.
/r/seduction29/03/14 06:08 AM
3

Holy shit that guy copied my post word for word. What a fucknut. Thank you so much for showing me this. Too bad for FisherTwelve I'm a copyright lawyer. Lol.
/r/seduction29/03/14 03:41 AM
1

If a girl you are dating is flirting eith another guy in front of you you dump her
/r/seduction29/03/14 02:46 AM
1

The problem is youre hitting on another girl to maje her jealous. That's what women do. I don't need a girl.with me at all times. If I'm in a date and the girl.bails I donr gibe a fuck, I dont need to immediately fill that hole with another.girl.
/r/seduction29/03/14 02:44 AM
1

That's not passive aggressive at all. That's as direct as I can be. I'm not gojng to fight with another guy for a girl. Bitch either wants to be with me or not. I don't have time for bullshit.
/r/seduction29/03/14 02:42 AM
1

Depends of.she is taken or not. I said it would be different if you are dating. But if you're not dating officially, then you have no "rights" to her.
/r/seduction29/03/14 02:41 AM
0

If you're dating a girl you can say you are fucking dating. You people are taking this "don't.care" sdvice too.far.
/r/seduction29/03/14 02:40 AM
2

No I'm not. If his shit came out after mine then he copied me.
/r/seduction29/03/14 02:39 AM
1

Its not a choice to feel shitty. Its natural. If another human being tells you to fuck off and you feel nothing you are a psycopath. The difference is you inderstand it and quickly get iver it.
/r/seduction28/03/14 07:39 PM
15

Robert Downey Jr. wouldn't have this problem in the first place.
/r/seduction28/03/14 06:02 PM
4

don't do this. It's immature and stupid. Plus it shows outcome dependence. Plus, what happens if you succeed? Now you have another girl and she has another guy.
/r/seduction28/03/14 05:31 PM
-2

why don't you just say it and remove all doubt?? Anybody can put their arm on a girl's shoulder, but if you say "we're dating" that guy has no comeback. If I see a guy put his arm on a girl's shoulder I'm not going to assume they're dating, I am just going to think "that guy is a douche who is trying to 'claim' her"
/r/seduction28/03/14 05:30 PM
1

Why don't you just say "Hey, I'm X, me and Y are dating??"
/r/seduction28/03/14 05:06 PM
119

Older, more attractive, and more "alpha" dude First of all, get this mindset out of your head immediately. Never, ever, compare yourself to other dudes. The only person you should compare yourself to is yourself. You should always be trying to become a better version of yourself, not comparing yourself to others. If you compare yourself to others you are just wasting your time and making yourself go crazy. You should look up to other dudes in terms of life activities, goals, dressing, etc.., but…
/r/seduction28/03/14 05:05 PM
3

No I actually give very little of a fuck. But the fact is that a lot of women deal out rejections in a very rude way, which is why a lot of guys are scared of approaching them. I've noticed that especially a lot of "Feminists" think that any guy that approaches them is an asshole so they try to shut him down in the most humiliating way possible. I understand the game well enough to not let it affect me, but I understand how a beginner will get freaked out and saddened by that. One of my problems…
/r/seduction28/03/14 04:32 PM
0

The worst thing they can do is not have sex with you That's not true. They can reject you extremely rudely and make you feel like shit. They can embarrass you in a public place. They can pretend they like you and waste a bunch of your time, and then bullshit you. Etc... But the point is.... you have to do it anyway. You have to be a little bit of a douchebag (or act like one) to approach. You have to have a thick skin and not let rejection affect you.
/r/seduction28/03/14 04:28 PM
3

No reason to obsess over the why on one data point. No reason to obsess, but it is still good to look at what you did wrong to learn something.
/r/seduction28/03/14 04:11 PM
1

It's just something some guys do. Maybe it can come across as needy though, but I guess that depends on the level of attraction of the girl. Well that's the whole point - if a girl is attracted to you, it doesn't matter what you text her. You can text her a picture of your butthole.
/r/seduction28/03/14 04:03 PM
0

You gave a shit and gave into your anxiety by sending that second msg. No I disagree. First of all, him sending that second text doesn't have anything to do with why she didn't respond to the first text. He may have jumped the gun and texted her too quickly, but sending a 2nd text isn't by itself a bad thing. Second, sending a second text is fine if you guys had made an agreement to hang out. IT's normal human behavior to be like "what happened." You don't have to act like an emotionless robot. …
/r/seduction28/03/14 03:53 PM
16

OP makes a good point: a lot of times when women want to have all day text conversations they just want attention and validation from a guy. If they were actually interested in dating/fucking you, they would meet you in person. Girls have a weird need for attention that guys don't, and they will take from guys they don't even like or care about. It's weird.
/r/seduction28/03/14 03:49 PM
20

BOOM
/r/seduction28/03/14 03:48 PM
8

One of the differences between successful and unsuccessful people is that successful people think that whatever problems they had were temporary whereas unsuccessful people think they are permanent.
/r/seduction28/03/14 01:40 PM
2

act like nothing happened. Smile and be nice. Of course, if the conversation ever came up, be like 'hey I really liked you but you didn't like me back."
/r/seduction28/03/14 01:33 PM
2

Who cares?
/r/seduction28/03/14 04:49 AM
2

1 - Approach 4 girls at a fast food restaurant. 2 - Open somebody with a girl and transition to the girl 3 - Open a girl by immediately grabbing her waist to show her something. I agree with RandianHero. You are overthinking this. This should be your thought process: 1) Go up to a girl 2) Introduce yourself 3) Start talking 4) Take to the conversation to a sexual place ASAP. That's all you do. Example: Me: Hi, I'm HappyJerk Her: Hi. Me: Can I tell you a secret? I come here all the time, and I kn…
/r/seduction27/03/14 08:46 PM
0

does any one have any routines or videos they like in order to help get their state pumped and stop becoming outcome dependent I think that sentence contradicts itself. Being "outcome dependent" means you don't care; so it makes no sense to "pump yourself up" to not care. Not caring is just that ... not caring.
/r/seduction27/03/14 08:40 PM
3

I disagree with everything except #3 (even though your reason for #3 is stupid IMO) and #5. different strokes for different folks. I don't see the point in a good morning text. I don't want to do it and I don't think any respecting woman would give a fuck or be impressed.
/r/seduction27/03/14 08:15 PM
1

Ask her out
/r/seduction27/03/14 07:00 PM
3

yeah something tells me if Brad Pitt cold approached her she would make some time in her schedule.
/r/seduction27/03/14 06:04 PM
1

saying appearance is only 10% is something an unattractive person would say Not necessarily. I think I'm pretty attractive, but I know that's not enough for most girls. I see hot guys get turned down all the time for less attractive guys. Maybe 10% is an exaggeration, but girls put a lot less weight on appearance than guys do. It's even been proven scientifically.
/r/seduction27/03/14 06:00 PM
2

My younger sister is definitely at least a 9 LOL you rated your sister's hotness but has never gone out with a guy from a cold approach that's great for her, but all girls are different. And also, cold approaches are very rare (and most guys who do them are just being drunk idiots) so it makes sense. But a good cold approach will work. Happens all the time. Thread dismissed.
/r/seduction27/03/14 05:31 PM
2

Who cares? Ask her out. Make her shit or get off the pot.
/r/seduction27/03/14 03:54 PM
1

I'm glad you had a nice date, but the fact is that in our society, most girls wouldn't accept this as a date. They have been trained to think that "date" is at least the guy buying you something. If you insist on having these kinds of dates girls will eventually drop you. I know this whole sub is about "not giving a fuck" and "don't bow down to the girl maaaan" but that's just not realistic. My ideal date would be to have the girl tag along with me as I go to the bank and the post office to run …
/r/seduction27/03/14 03:50 PM
1

I didn't listen to the audio I just think that "negging" on purpose nis douchey and never works.
/r/seduction27/03/14 03:10 AM
1

Only social retards call it negging.
/r/seduction27/03/14 03:08 AM
5

No because I can resist her.
/r/seduction26/03/14 04:40 PM
1

Girls do want a guy that respects them. But also he has to not.be a bitch.
/r/seduction26/03/14 04:37 PM
1

well most guys don't know that, so she shouldnt' ding guys for not knowing pua knowledge
/r/seduction26/03/14 03:02 PM
3

You shouldn't be lying to girls about what you are doing. If a girl thinks you're exclusive with her but you're dating other girls then you're a douche. Otherwise, who cares if they know.
/r/seduction26/03/14 01:52 PM
1

Yeah you're not a "model" unless you can support yourself financially modeling, which 99% of "models" cannot do.
/r/seduction26/03/14 01:39 PM
5

There's a whole line of thinking that says "determine their insecurities and exploit them!!" It's fucking douchey and mean. Anybody that does this is a shithead and if you don't do it right you will come off as a huge asshole.
/r/seduction26/03/14 01:37 PM
0

Two problems: 1) You sound like you are very hot/high value and you are giving your #s to loser guys who are way beneath you and/or intimidated by you. Cut it out. 2) When you meet a guy you actually like, be very clear what you want from him. It's very helpful and attractive for a girl to be like "I want you to take me on a date. Call me next week." If he does, great. If not, next him. If you want to call him, always offer a specific time and place. Don't just say "let's hang out" because that …
/r/seduction26/03/14 11:24 AM
1

I feel like they work on really cocky girls. Some girls get off on a good burn and some heated back and forths. Once again, like I said, if you are joking around with a girl and it fits the conversation, then do it. But purposely thinking "oooh I'm going to 'neg' this girl" is douchey, and it is definitely douchey to approach a girl and immediately neg her. I knew one girl who liked to tell me I acted like a girl and I was anorexic. Yeah that girl is a bitch. You didn't "neg" her, you put her in…
/r/seduction26/03/14 10:38 AM
-17

Normal kidding around is great, but if you purposely say something fucked up to "neg" a girl you're a douche. And "negging" is the main way shitty PUAs give away the game and make the whole community look like shitbags. I was hanging out with some of my girl friends and some dude came up to them and said something and the next thing I heard I was "did you just neg me?? I know what you fuckers do." I LOLed.
/r/seduction26/03/14 03:51 AM
-15

yeah negs are for insecure douchebags who are so afraid of looking needy that they have to be assholes to over-correct.
/r/seduction26/03/14 03:09 AM
19

All the answers here are going to say "roll your eyes" or "devalue her" or say some other snarky thing to make her feel small and insignificant. I disagree. To me, that's mean, emotional and betrays overinvestment. What would you do if somebody you genuinely did not give a fuck about said to you "you'd be lucky to have me?" I would be like "yeah, that would be great" or "yeah I would totally be lucky." You can even make it into a joke and say "Oh my god, I would totally be the luckiest guy in th…
/r/seduction26/03/14 03:08 AM
1

I am not some super alpha player by any stretch of the imagination but i promise you that there have been many occasions where i used my strategy and the woman ended up shifting her entire demeanor. Nobody denies that you can fuck a girl that tells you have a boyfriend. The problem is that pursuing those women is normally a waste of time because you can use your time more wisely on girls that aren't going to try to flat out reject. Shit you can have any woman if you are persistent enough, but wh…
/r/seduction25/03/14 06:17 PM
9

Girls aren't going to wait around for you. They have lives too, and they will next you if you bullshit. Go for the girl you really like, and tell the other girls you are dating. If it doesn't work out with this girl and the other girls still like you they may take you back, but don't expect them to put their lives on hold for you.
/r/seduction25/03/14 05:48 PM
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I'm more concerned about making the girl feel bad No you're not. You're using the "I'm worried about the girl's feelings" as justification for your AA. As long as you don't lie or cheat, you have no reason to feel bad.
/r/seduction25/03/14 05:47 PM
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no its really their loss. I can always find somebody better, oftentimes within minutes. They can't.
/r/seduction25/03/14 05:46 PM
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Half the time they are making it up, or are completely willing to fuck. Ok well I'm looking for a better than 50% success rate. Also, girls that are going to lie about having a boyfriend to "shit test" you are not the type of trash I want in my life anyway. You have to ignore it and keep hitting on them. No you don't. There is a thing called abundance mentality which says "oh you aren't down with what I'm selling? I'll go sell it over there."
/r/seduction25/03/14 04:37 PM
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"Geez, thanks for making it awkward!"
/r/seduction25/03/14 01:23 PM
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My approach is this: whenever I approach a girl I immediately ask if she is single. This way, I weed out right away girls that are in relationships and/or want to lie and reject me. Asking if they are single also sets the frame of the interaction, which is that you are interested in DATING her, not just being a friend.
/r/seduction25/03/14 10:34 AM
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Being a good pickup arts means stepping outside of your comfort zone. Being at life means stepping outside of your comfort zone. All that said, you are right. A bar is just a room with music and people. If you can't have "fun" that's all in your own head. Unless the music is so horribly bad you can't stand in that room, or the people or so fucking terrible you can't say a word to them, there is nothing inherent in a "bar" or a "club" that should affect your mood.
/r/seduction25/03/14 10:32 AM
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"I'm a 22-year old unique and interesting guy that every girl should want to be with and my job is to simply make them wonder why all those other girls didn't take the opportunity to fuck my brains out I disagree: the title should be "I am a 22 year old dude who doesn't give a fuck whether girls fuck him or not. If I get some pussy, cool. Otherwise, still pretty fucking cool."
/r/seduction25/03/14 05:21 AM
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doubt is normal. You have to power through it with abundance mentality. You have to ready to make an ass of yourself, knowing that another girl is right around the corner. So be over-aggressive and make a move on everybody.
/r/seduction24/03/14 10:53 PM
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But why did your girlfriends think that was important? Because our society teaches a lot of girls that a guy doesn't "like" you until he takes you out on a date.
/r/seduction24/03/14 10:07 PM
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You didn't understand my story. She was flaking, she was becoming distant, and then MY girl friends (not hers) told me to take her on a date. And it worked. Fact is, some girls expect to be taken on dates. That's how our society works. She never told me to take her on a date, I had to learn that on my own.
/r/seduction24/03/14 08:56 PM
1

BOOM
/r/seduction24/03/14 06:08 PM
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First I can't find anyone else to go with me. You don't need anybody else. Go out and make friends with the people that work there. The bartender, the bouncer, etc... Second is I really don't want to drink any alcohol when I am there. Then don't. Have one drink and just have fun. Being alone in a bar and chugging water kind feels like I am going to be out of place in a bar. That's becuase you're letting your confidence be determined by how others perceive you. Don't let that happen.
/r/seduction24/03/14 05:53 PM
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The problem with your mindset (and your mindset is one shared by many people on seddit) is that a lot of girls, especially more old-fashioned and classy girls (and older), expect guys to take them out on dates. Period. I did the whole "hang out" thing with a girl who really liked me a few times and she started to get flaky, and I asked my other girl friends what I was doing wrong. They told me to ask her on a fucking DATE at a nice restaurant. I did, and now we're doing well again. You can go on…
/r/seduction24/03/14 05:39 PM
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yeah there is no advantage to being FB friends with a girl you're dating
/r/seduction24/03/14 03:56 PM
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Thank god this is the top comment. Yes, you can "defuse" her by making some stupid witty comment, but why would you waste your time? She has already "rejected" you and basically shown disinterest: move on, learn from your mistakes, and spend your time with a girl that actually likes you.
/r/seduction24/03/14 03:55 PM
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There are zero repercussions for her to lie about a bf. Even if she is lying, she is doing so because you freaked her out and/or she doesn't like you. Instead of fighting an uphill battle, why don't you find somebody else.
/r/seduction24/03/14 03:54 PM
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Just curious as to how I'm supposed to handle "not caring" but still "showing interest" "Not caring" means don't get emotionally invested in women, and don't go out of your way to please/supplicate them. "Show interest" means to let them know you are interested. Here is what most guys do, that's wrong: They like girl A, they call girl A and ask her to "hang out" (whatever that means). So now the girl is going to "hang out" with him but she isn't sure if the guy likes her or not. But when they ar…
/r/seduction24/03/14 12:27 PM
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We all know we need to go practice game to get good at it stop posting that factoid everywhere. Most people don't read the sidebar, or other people's posts, so every time somebody posts a new question, they need to be told that this is the answer. t's getting ridiculous how many threads have somebody saying. 'well that's nice but you have to go practice and you would just learn this along the way' we know we learn by doing but we are hear to discuss game not talk about going out to practice it. …
/r/seduction24/03/14 12:21 PM
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Here's what I think your issue is: it's hard dating after a LTR because in an LTR you are totally committed to that person and you feel really deep emotions. But you can't act that way in a casual relationship. So it sounds like you are probably trying to get too "deep" too early to capture that intimate emotional connection of your LTRs but you have to let that develop naturally. If you force it you freak girls out and they run away. Those girls are obviously into you and want to fuck you, but …
/r/seduction24/03/14 05:27 AM
1

I don't understand what you are saying.
/r/seduction24/03/14 05:23 AM
1

"Hey you want to go out on a date?"
/r/seduction24/03/14 04:21 AM
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If you even have to ask, you're probably being boring. Is she responding to what you're saying? Is she added valuable comments? Is she interrupting you? Does she look interested? If she's not interrupting you she's probably not interested. Is it a subject relevant to her? Are you talking for yourself or for her? Another way to tell if you're being boring: "hey am I boring you? Want to change the subject?" I say that a lot.
/r/seduction24/03/14 04:20 AM
1

After the girls that I was talking to left, I approached the group that the girl was with and asked the group which places I should see in the city and told them it's just been a few hours since I arrived the city which is true. First of all, you look like a slut. Even if the girl was "interested" in you, she will remember you as the guy who is trying to get with every girl. Not a good look. Usually you should focus on one girl. I put my hand on her back again and asked what her name was. You as…
/r/seduction24/03/14 04:19 AM
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Women don't want to be understood first and foremost, they want to be turned on and intrigued by an attractive man. They want both.
/r/seduction24/03/14 04:14 AM
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I worked so hard but COLD APPROACHING SUCKS. No you're not doing it right. If girls are flaking then you are meeting them but you're not building attraction, texting them right, etc... There are other ways to meet girls, but you will suffer the same shit (flakiness, etc...) if you keep doing what you're doing. I LIKE HOT GIRLS. REALLY HOT GIRLS. Jeeez. You sound needy. That's probably what is driving girls away. Fact is, the only way you only really meet super hot girls is going to certain kinds…
/r/seduction24/03/14 04:09 AM
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Don't attract trying to get them to like you. Just attract them to talk to them. Start a conversation. About anything. If they like they like you. If they don't, tough shit. But don't go in there thinking "I have to get this girl to like me."
/r/seduction24/03/14 04:06 AM
3

There is most definitely too much: "just do it" advice out there. Just do it is the only good advice. If you let your confidence be determined by how girls treat you, you will always feel like shit. Confidence should be irrational and not based on anything; you should just BE confident.
/r/seduction24/03/14 04:04 AM
0

All the reading is probably making your AA worse because before you even try to approach your brain is flooded with all the "knowledge" that you've supposedly learned and you don't know how to handle it.
/r/seduction24/03/14 12:51 AM
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Does anyone else think too much "material" is a worse thing than too little? Yes, absolutely. Most "materials" is wrong, because it worked for one guy in a particular situation, doesn't mean it will work for all guys. Also, human interaction is an organic thing that you have to just "feel" rather than know logically.
/r/seduction24/03/14 12:49 AM
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The point I'm making is that you don't need PUA techniques to get laid.
/r/seduction24/03/14 12:44 AM
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So for centuries guys have been going to bars clubs and parks to approach women? Not but for most of history most sex wasn't forced so guys had to do something to convince women to fuck them and they sure as hell didn't real Models. Basically, if you think PUA techniques are "required" to fuck women you are dead wrong. Go ask Brad Pitt if he needs Models to fuck women (and btw, I think Models is a great book). Wait why are you even here shouldnt you be out picking up women? I need some alone tim…
/r/seduction23/03/14 11:04 PM
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Im sure you learned that from somewhere, either a post or a book or an article. No a lot of guys learn how to pick up girls by actually doing it. In fact, that's how most sex has happened for most of history.
/r/seduction23/03/14 08:37 PM
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There is no "must read" list. There is a "must do" list which is to approach approach approach
/r/seduction23/03/14 08:04 PM
4

This is the right answer but the "make excuse squad" is downvoting it.
/r/seduction23/03/14 08:03 PM
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Because I assume most of you live in the USA, most of the stuff on here will apply to that area. NO NO NO NO. Aside for minor cultural differences, women everywhere are generally the same. You are just making excuses for your lack of confidence. Just plain out of nowhere talking to her? I don't think I've ever seen that happen here. That has nothing to do with girls. That's because guys in your country are pussies. You can be the person to start.
/r/seduction23/03/14 08:02 PM
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A situation is only awkward if you let it be awkward. You have to set the frame for the interaction.
/r/seduction23/03/14 08:01 PM
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LOL @ this comment getting downvoted. You are exactly right. People: stop trying to get girls with "tricks." The only "trick" you need to know is to be a bad motherfucker.
/r/seduction23/03/14 07:50 PM
0

Cum in her mouth
/r/seduction23/03/14 02:54 AM
1

First of all, you should set the frame for every interaction with girls. If you go to a movie with a girl you should let her know that it's a "date" and that you're interested in her so that its not "creepy" when you put her arm around her. You fucked up with the first girl because you never set the frame, i.e., you never told her you wanted to date her. The problem is that the first girl is actually supposed to be my good friend She's not your friend at all. She's a bitch. I would call her and …
/r/seduction22/03/14 11:48 PM
1

Who cares? Why does it matter what the guys are like around you?
/r/seduction22/03/14 11:45 PM
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So I'm over here thinking "What!? Not texting a girl...enough??". Yeup, it's true. Text game can be a solid and integral piece of the relationship. Believe that and don't make the mistake I did. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. Just because this one girl wants you to text her doesn't mean its a solid rule. I'm sorry dude. Not all girls are the same. You haven't discovered a Biblical law about texting cuz this one guy messaged you. Let me repost what I wrote somewhere else: This post illustrates a big probl…
/r/seduction22/03/14 11:44 PM
4

Go fuck.yourself
/r/seduction22/03/14 06:37 AM
2

so you're admitting its you and not the venue
/r/seduction22/03/14 01:45 AM
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Oh my god you mean I can get a girl to like me if I stop using question marks???? Geez Louise - if a girl's interest in you is dependent on whether you use a question mark, then you need to find girls that actually like you. If I ask a girl a question I will end it with a question mark because I'm a fucking adult and I know how to use punctuation. Stop trying to look cool through your texting. You should be a baller by being a baller, not by faking it over text.
/r/seduction22/03/14 01:44 AM
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OP you're not building enough attraction. IF you kissed girls in one night that means you probably spent like 10 minutes with each one, went for the kiss, and then tried to invite them back. That's not how it works.
/r/seduction22/03/14 01:42 AM
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But some guys are excited to see a specific woman. "I can't wait" is a crazy thing to say, unless you've been dating her for a looooooong time. Also, just because she reciprocates your enthusiasm now doesn't mean she always will. Texting her shit like "I can't wait" and "Thinking of you" puts you at a disadvantage and she may still hang out with you, but if the balance shifts she will know that you are obsessed with her.
/r/seduction22/03/14 01:42 AM
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"I can't wait" is extremely strong language. Girls overanalyze.everything you say so if you text that they will think that you literally cannot wait and the rest of your life is a shitty waiting room till she gets there. More likely the girl will know you are full of shit and you probably could wait, so now you're back in the same shitbucket as all the other guys who say exaggerated shit they don't mean and she doesn't trust.
/r/seduction22/03/14 12:07 AM
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I disagree that you should text like you're in a relationship to "push things along." You will look needy.
/r/seduction21/03/14 11:57 PM
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This post illustrates a big problem with the PUA/seduction thing. You are trying to give people rules. There are no fucking rules. Texting is literally a case-by-case thing. How much and what you should text somebody is completely dependent on the nature of your relationship with her, how long you've known her, how much interest she's shown in you, how much interest you've shown in her, the kind of person she is, the kind of person you are, how hot she is, whether you've fucked her, etc... You h…
/r/seduction21/03/14 09:30 PM
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it's hot in here. let's go home Read that sentence. It's terrible. Girls will take everything you say literally. You said "it's hot in here." Was it actually hot? Cuz if no, you sound stupid. And even if it was, why is the solution to go home? Why don't you just go outside? You need to be honest with women or you look like a creep. You should say something like "it's getting kind of hot in here, I'm going to go outside. Want to come?" And then when you're outside be like "this place is fun, but …
/r/seduction21/03/14 09:27 PM
1

This is what I do: When I'm hanging out with a girl, I set the frame verbally. Want to go on a date? We're on a date now. I'm interested in you. I think you're pretty? Etc... Then, once we have accepted that frame, I'm just myself. I don't express any emotions towards them, I don't try to impress them, I don't supplicate to them. I act just like they aren't there or that I'm just hanging out some old friends. I just worry about following the rules of the frame. For example, if I'm on a date, I w…
/r/seduction21/03/14 08:10 PM
4

Should I approach girls and hit on them? Absolutely not!!! What, are you crazy?
/r/seduction21/03/14 07:51 PM
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No a lot of people do great at nightclubs and bars. I think daygame and nightgame is different and you're doing your usual daygame shit at the clubs and its not working. In nightclubs your conversations are going to be quicker and you have to be less eager and invested becuase then you look like another creepy guy at the club trying to get with them.
/r/seduction21/03/14 07:50 PM
1

Weird. When I was in college I had a thing with a girl named Anna who had a rich, AFC boyfriend named John from high school too. I'm 30 now so it can't be the same people tho
/r/seduction21/03/14 07:49 PM
3

This is good advice. Furthermore, make you sure you buy some options contracts to diversify your porftolio and hedge your investments. The worst thing that can hapopen is a credit crisis in the pussy market that dings your future value.
/r/seduction21/03/14 06:31 PM
3

Hey you want to come back to my place? No? Ok, bye
/r/seduction21/03/14 06:29 PM
1

You're going to fail and suck horribly. So stop worrying about it and be yourself.
/r/seduction21/03/14 06:29 PM
5

The women were being borderline hostile and were clueless about the social dynamics of attraction and pick-up. That's why its retarded to try to debate these people
/r/seduction21/03/14 06:28 PM
1

Do girls approach guys? Yes, but rarely. In my experience the girls that have approached me have been super hot and super crazy. Think about it - if you're a pretty girl, guys are always approaching you - so why would you approach them? If no then why not? Girls are much more afraid of rejection than guys.
/r/seduction21/03/14 03:10 AM
1

Who gives a fuck
/r/seduction20/03/14 10:34 PM
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People don't read the sidebar (or maybe the sidebar could be improved) so people ask the same questions and reiterate the same points over and over again.
/r/seduction20/03/14 07:59 PM
4

Persistence is bullshit. It's a scam taught by shitheads who want to make money off of losers who can't get girls, and they want to entice them by saying "it's easy man, just try a little harder." As a man your goal is to be as upfront and honest as possible about your intentions. Once you've let her know what you want, its up to her to say yes or no. If she says no, you're a fucking moron if you hang around and still try to get her. Girls are human beings with brains and the idea that you shoul…
/r/seduction20/03/14 07:49 PM
0

I can simplify the whole "nice guy" thing into one sentence: Women want a guy who is a nice person, but not one who is doing things out of emotion. Women like passionate guys, just not guys that are passionate about them.
/r/seduction20/03/14 03:10 PM
1

Straight up say "hey are you interested in me as a friend or as a romantic partner?" If they can't give you a straight answer, move on
/r/seduction20/03/14 03:08 PM
1

long term relationship
/r/seduction19/03/14 10:07 PM
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I want to socialise with alot of girls, not to have sex with them, but i really want to establish a strong connection with somebody, i feel thats what im missing from my life ever since i broke up with my X after about 3 years being with her. First of all, beware. Because of evolution and a lot of weird reasons, men become "emotional" about women a lot faster than women become emotional about men. That's the biggest problem men have in meeting women - they come on too strong too early and freak …
/r/seduction19/03/14 09:59 PM
1

peak emotional state the only thing that will take you out of a "peak emotional state" is being needy
/r/seduction19/03/14 07:47 PM
2

I mostly feel like calling her out for other stuff, like saying she doesn't have a boyfriend when I'm pretty sure she does. So you're obviously emotional over her and it bothers you that she has a boyfriend. Just say that. Be like "I'm not comfortable being in a relationship with a woman with a boyfriend." I want her to know that I just want to fuck and could never be serious with her without breaking things off. If you just want to fuck why do you care that she has a boyfriend? You obviously ca…
/r/seduction19/03/14 07:46 PM
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Anything that is "Fast and simple" isn't real value. Anybody can go to the store and buy some nice clothes and look better so you're not really "better" than anybody else for doing that. Real value comes from long-term things: interests, your career, your fitness, etc... You are obviously emotional over losing this girl so you want to "fix it" somehow overnight but you can't. You have to look at life as a marathon and not a sprint. Start working out, eating better, and pick up a hobby. Finally, …
/r/seduction19/03/14 06:59 PM
3

She's 22 and I know for a fact she still see's her ex bf or bf, I don't know how. So she doesn't really like you. She is just using you for the D. I'm trying to act aloof and always say "it's all good, what you up to today? Hmu if you're tryna kick it." That's not really aloof. You are asking her to hang out with you. That shows that you want her. It's ok, but you're not being aloof. A couple of days before valentines day, her bf blew up my phone with texts and calls asking who this was and all …
/r/seduction19/03/14 06:57 PM
3

Yeah if you've been talking to a girl all night and she just "leaves" with another guy (never happened to me either) then that girl probably has problems and its good that she's gone.
/r/seduction19/03/14 01:43 PM
3

How so?
/r/seduction19/03/14 05:16 AM
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First of all, stop hanging out with your girlfriend. I don't care if she is fucking you. She is using you as an emotional tampon and is wrecking your self esteem. You can't start feeling better until you cut her out of your life. After any break up you need at least 60 days no-contact. So tell her to stop contacting you, unfriend her, delete her number, and don't put yourself in situations where you will see her. Chances are, she will want you back. Don't take her back. UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. …
/r/seduction19/03/14 03:45 AM
1

Why??
/r/seduction19/03/14 03:40 AM
2

I have no idea what you are talking about? Are you talking about picking up chicks? To pick up chicks you have to go pick up chicks. All the reading and RSD videos don't mean sh it if you don't go do it. Are you talking about improving yourself? If so, there is tons of shit on the internet to read about that in terms of taking care of your body, becoming disciplined, working out, cultivating interests, etc...
/r/seduction19/03/14 03:34 AM
1

I disagree. Wouldn't a date go better if the subject of the date is actually fun?
/r/seduction19/03/14 03:33 AM
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This is just a lot of words to explain the same point that has been made a million times: don't look needy or overeager.
/r/seduction19/03/14 03:30 AM
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First of all, the point of a date isn't to leave her "begging for more." It's for you to have fun. If she has fun, that's great, but it's not your problem. A big mistake guys make is that they think a date is some performance they have to put on to impress the girl. Fuck that. A date should be fun for the both of you. Now, onto your question. I would recommend any guy to have a foot in his city's arts scene. Comedy shows, plays, art exhibits, live bands, etc... You should always have a solid lin…
/r/seduction18/03/14 06:58 PM
1

It depends on what the insult is. If she is just teasing you, just tease her back. I had a girl call me "cheap" once cuz I wouldn't buy her a drink - I retort "yeah, I'm cheap. That's why I have money and you don't." But... if a girl genuinely insults you, that's fucked up, and you shouldn't take it. The question of whether an insult is a joke or a genuine insult is a fact-specific one, so I can't really give any examples here, but if the girl says something seriously fucked up I would take the …
/r/seduction18/03/14 06:51 PM
1

Girls generally like guys that have a feminine side, so that's a plus. An important part of being alpha is not giving a fuck what anybody thinks. Just don't let your feminine side take away from your masculinity: are you in shape? are you confident? are you scare of other guys? IF not, you're fine.
/r/seduction18/03/14 06:41 PM
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because the act of giving the number probably increases the interest in a date no it won't. Girls give out their number for a lot of reasons - they just want you to go away, they want the attention, they are drunk, etc... It's easy to give somebody your number, but its a lot harder to clear time in your schedule, put on your make up, etc... The biggest problem guys have here on r/seddit is that they get numbers but can't convert them into dates. "Tricks" like this don't help. If you had a good i…
/r/seduction18/03/14 05:55 PM
1

Tricks like this are fine if you already have a good foundation, inner game and social fluency. But if you have those things, you won't need tricks!
/r/seduction18/03/14 05:53 PM
1

Should i just blow her off for the rest of the day and not pick up her calls or answer her phone calls. The true "not give a fuck" thing wouldn't be to ignore her, but to be like "hey I'm sorry I made plans today thinking we would hang out at X. Sorry, but I now have plans." If she starts whining or being a bitch about it, just be like "I'm sorry I can't handle having my plans changed all the time" but don't get into the mud with her about this. And no, your GF isn't "testing" you - she is being…
/r/seduction18/03/14 05:22 PM
1

You don't need to hype yourself up to not give a fuck. Not giving a fuck is just that - you don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck when I wake up in the morning. I don't need to get "ready" to not give a fuck.
/r/seduction18/03/14 05:17 PM
11

First of all, stop drinking. Second, quit this idea of "gaming" girls. It's a horrible thing that has creeped into the PUA world. When I talk to girls I am not "gaming" them. I am just talking to them like I would anybody else. Now, if I like them and I think they like me, I will ask them on a date and then shift the frame, but even then, I am still acting like a regular person. So, you, in your pathetic, sorry state can still talk to girls - you don't have to "game" them. If they "reject" you (…
/r/seduction18/03/14 03:33 PM
3

It sounds like you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. In my experience, really hot, interesting, smart, successful girls don't call guys. It's mostly crazy, desperate girls that do that. In my experience. Plus who wants girls calling them? Are you insecure? I'd prefer to just call girls whenever I felt like it. "Don't come for me until I send for you" - that's my motto.
/r/seduction18/03/14 03:24 PM
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How does this work ok for you? Do they end up calling you? If you're a busy person, which you should be, then giving girls your number is a bad idea because the girl could call you any day and chances are that you are busy that day, so you will have to turn her down. Girls hate rejection (or even the possibility of rejection) so they aren't going to call you even if they like you. And if they do call and you're busy, they're not going to keep trying. If you're busy, you should have HER number, a…
/r/seduction18/03/14 02:38 PM
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"State" is for people faking it.
/r/seduction18/03/14 01:16 AM
1

I disagree. First it doesn't hurt you to text again so why not. Second, multiple texts can build anticipation and show you are interested so they are good as long as you don't sound needy and annoying. Finally, saying "ill text you this week" is actually a mild rejection because most guys roght for the ask out. it shows you are busy but you may find time.for.her.
/r/seduction18/03/14 01:14 AM
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I don't think you need tricks to build attraction. I think tricks are for guys who don't have confidence, and are trying to fake it.
/r/seduction18/03/14 12:16 AM
1

"Hey I'm going to X at Y time, would you like to join?"
/r/seduction17/03/14 11:10 PM
1

If all we did was say "display confidence, dominance, calmness, etc." then we wouldn't need an entire subreddit. Actually those concepts are extremely difficult, and most people have a very hard time mastering them, which is why so much shit is written about them and people have to resort to "tricks" to fake having confidence and dominance.
/r/seduction17/03/14 11:09 PM
2

Hey howd the rest of your night go? Bad text. Do you really care? No? Then she can tell you don't care and your text was bullshit. A more authentic text would have been like "Hey nice to meet you, I'll text you sometime this week to make plans" and then do that. That said, now that you're in the position you're in, just wait a few days and then invite her out to something fun.
/r/seduction17/03/14 10:38 PM
1

who said that?
/r/seduction17/03/14 10:36 PM
4

The problem with relying on "tricks" is that you miss the forest for the trees. Your goal should be to be confident, dominant, calm, and build attraction ... not to use "tricks"
/r/seduction17/03/14 08:24 PM
2

Why do you have to be flexible? Why can't she.be flexible? If she liked you she would make the time to hang out with you.
/r/seduction17/03/14 02:12 AM
12

The goal isn't to "deal with" flakes. Its to get her to not flake in the first place. You have to make her think that you are living a more interesting and awesome life than her so its HER responsibility to keep up with your schedule, not vice versa. If she STILL bullshits then you just cut her loose. She sent me a text last night saying her dad wanted to treat her for all her hard work at University lately and that our plans might be a bit later than scheduled but she'd try to keep it as tight …
/r/seduction17/03/14 12:30 AM
9

when you're on the upswing you are confident and not giving a fuck
/r/seduction16/03/14 06:25 PM
5

Its none of her business how much money you make.
/r/seduction16/03/14 04:38 PM
4

There are no rules. All girls are different and all interactions are different. It depends on how much she is into you, etc... Do you think if Brad Pitt met a girl at a club and texted her right away she would be turned off?
/r/seduction16/03/14 03:10 AM
1

However, educating and advocating for it on reddit, can make a difference on reddit. No it can't. Reddit is designed to be a circlejerk. The whole upvoting/downvoting thing makes sure minority opinions are not heard and/or respected. Also, there are way too many feminists/betas/white knights/etc... and not enough of the PUA crowd so you lose my pure numbers. Also, by saying that most guys getting into this are insecure douchebags, are you saying most of them have other than honorable intentions?…
/r/seduction16/03/14 03:07 AM
2

Here's the thing. You used these techniques to your advantage in a nice way. Great. But the fact is, most guys that get into this are insecure douchebags and they end up acting horribly. Trying to "rehabilitate" the image of PUA is never going to work as long as most PUAs are horrible douches. I have a lot of girl friends and I run into PUAs all the time and most of the time they are terrible. Secondly, changing people's opinions is impossible unless you have access to major media outlets. The v…
/r/seduction16/03/14 02:39 AM
2

True dat. And you definitely don't need to be the AMOG (alpha male of the group). I have a lot of friends that are "alphas" and when we go out they do most of the talking and shit. All that said, the whole point of being "alpha" and confident" is not letting other people dictate your moods.
/r/seduction16/03/14 01:49 AM
2

This girl highlights a problem that some guys like me struggle with. We often don't muster up the courage to call a girl after we get her I literally have never heard of anybody having this problem. The real problem guys have is that they don't know how to text/call/invite the girl out right and the girl doesn't respond. Also I don't see the point of this video.
/r/seduction16/03/14 01:47 AM
6

Fuck games. Just develop a personality.
/r/seduction16/03/14 12:41 AM
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Nobody ever said you have to always be confident, but you can't let your confidence be contingent on your location. Anybody can be "confident" if they are around their friends, and its their birthday, and Brad Pitt is hanging out with them, etc... The real challenge is to be confident anytime, anywhere.
/r/seduction15/03/14 11:58 PM
1

Yeah that's the whole point of my post - your confidence shouldn't be contingent on your location, etc...
/r/seduction15/03/14 11:16 PM
3

I'm talking about once I have her in the apt
/r/seduction15/03/14 11:15 PM
1

Obviously don't go places you don't want to go, but, like I said, your game should not be affected by your environment. You should always be positive, upbeat, and ready to have a good time.
/r/seduction15/03/14 10:06 PM
8

Yeah that's interesting. I gotta think about it. Now we just need a guide to closing!!
/r/seduction15/03/14 09:52 PM
13

This is not good advice. You should always be able to open everywhere and your confidence should not be dependent on the place you are at, the people you are around, or the music that is playing. Confidence is knowing that you are the shit, period, not "I'm the shit if I'm at the right bar around the right people where 50 cent is playing and the temperature is 70 and I know the bartender and the moon is full." That said, I hate the word game. It makes it sound like you are doing something creepy…
/r/seduction15/03/14 09:49 PM
1

Or, average person. The fact that would approach impresses a girl even more because 99% of girls would never, ever, ever have the balls to do that in a million years.
/r/seduction15/03/14 04:02 PM
1

Most girls aren't obvious about it, unless they are super trashy. Also girls hate thinking they are gold diggers and are really turned off by a guy bragging about his money. Most gold diggers come from the shittier ends of society so if you around decent people you won't see them.
/r/seduction14/03/14 12:13 AM
2

"Hey let's hang out at X time at y place" thats fucking it
/r/seduction13/03/14 09:52 PM
1

I had the same thing happened to me but I thought the girl actually wanted to charge her phone. She seemed puzzled when I asked her if she needed to be walked to her car after her phone was done charging. Oops.
/r/seduction13/03/14 09:51 PM
2

Sales helps to a degree, but approaching a woman is still a different story because you are approaching for a completely different reason. A lot of guys don't have any trouble approaching strangers, but they do have a problem with being honest about their innermost feelings.
/r/seduction13/03/14 05:50 PM
51

lol you're lucky you ran into one of the good ones
/r/seduction12/03/14 11:43 PM
20

This isn't what push pull is. Push pull is when you keep the girl guessing as to whether you are interested in her. Just focus on having a normal conversation.
/r/seduction12/03/14 09:48 PM
5

Also, you can only really bang/date 2 or 3 girls at once. So if meet a different girl in that window, you can put her in the friendzone. I really don't have time/space in my life for any more girls, so I meet new "friends" all the time.
/r/seduction12/03/14 06:25 PM
3

The more direct the better as long as you're not over aggressive
/r/seduction12/03/14 03:21 PM
1

Dont go. You're not ready. If you have to go ignore her and just be nice if she tries to talj to you.
/r/seduction12/03/14 03:19 PM
15

Control yourself. If you can't be around a hot girl without trying to bang her then you're going to have a shitty life.
/r/seduction12/03/14 03:17 PM
6

Jesus Christ, please do not forget leg day.
/r/seduction12/03/14 03:50 AM
1

The whole point of texting is that the person you're talking to has no idea what you're doing, so waiting between texts does not look needy at all. I don't care what it looks like. IT IS NEEDY. You are planning your whole day around texts. If you really, truly, honestly did not give a fuck about a girl you would text right back because WHY THE FUCK NOT??
/r/seduction12/03/14 03:49 AM
11

What the fuck are you talking about? Does she want to be in a relationship with you or not? If no, then move on. If yes, then you're not friendzoned. If she is keeping you in a grey zone and not letting you know what she really wants, not only does she not really want you, but she's not even your friend.
/r/seduction11/03/14 10:33 PM
1

First of all, thinking of conversations in terms of "negs" is going to fuck you up. You should have an organic conversation, not a scripted one where you think to yourself "oh shit, I have to 'neg' now." Secondly, the whole point of negging is that most guys are overly supplicatory in conversations, and that is extremely unattractive and creepy. You "neg" to show that you are not in awe of her and that to you she is just another person and you have a rational head on your shoulders. Showing you …
/r/seduction11/03/14 10:18 PM
3

You need to realize that women's emotions are different than men's, and that men naturally get emotionally invested earlier. Men have an insane desire to fuck right away, whereas women are looking for a more long-term, stable partner (this is all because of evolution) so it takes a while for women to get emotionally invested. This is hard for a lot of men to understand because when you feel deep tingles you just assume the other person is getting those tingles too, even though they are not.
/r/seduction11/03/14 02:39 PM
1

This. People here put too much emphasis on the exact wording of what you're saying. Furthermore, this "I'll be out anyway" mentality only works a few times. If you keep doing it, the girl will think you don't give a fuck about her and just want her around for sex. At some point you need to setting up real dates.
/r/seduction10/03/14 09:43 PM
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but if you then start to like them, and emotionally invest, you're going to put them off There is no problem getting emotionally invested, you just have to be less emotionally invested than them.
/r/seduction10/03/14 09:42 PM
1

I've had that problem before too. Girls are great actors, so you can feel like you've built this amazing connection while to them you're just a guy they are talking to. You have to keep this in mind the whole time and make sure you don't get too excited. You need to keep your guard up and be ready to lose interest or leave at any time (like she did). Also requires abundance mentality.
/r/seduction10/03/14 06:23 PM
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sedditors just need to keep in mind that most pieces of advice are general summary statements the problem is that a lot people take these summary statements as the gospel and apply them in situations where they shouldn't apply. Most of the people here are nerds who are used to thinking in terms of strict logic and science, and fail to realize that human emotions are a lot more complicated and fluid thing.
/r/seduction10/03/14 06:19 PM
7

They're not strawmen if people actually say this shit ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
/r/seduction10/03/14 06:17 PM
1

That's good for you. But even if there is a 50 per cent chance she is being honest, you are wasting your time. You can fuck anybody if you put enough effort in, but its not worth it.
/r/seduction10/03/14 03:01 PM
1

"be yourself" is not good advice. If you are an asshole, you should learn to not be an asshole, not "be yourself." That said, a lot of the shit guys shamed for, they shouldn't be shamed for. They should be confident and about about their sexual desires. They should be honest about who they are and what they are like. They shouldn't try to be a character just to make girls like them.
/r/seduction10/03/14 03:44 AM
3

Why do you need a response? She doesn't want to date you.
/r/seduction10/03/14 01:44 AM
3

Have you tried? These books are useless if you don't do anything.
/r/seduction10/03/14 12:13 AM
1

This
/r/seduction10/03/14 12:09 AM
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I don't wanna be that scumbag who makes her cheat. You didn't "make" her do anything. Here's the thing: she is trash. If you have feelings for her stay away. If you want some easy P, stay. Your call coach.
/r/seduction09/03/14 06:02 PM
1

If a girls interest in you is so thin that this change of wordingnqould make a difference in whether she comes I wouldn't even waste my time with her.
/r/seduction09/03/14 05:17 PM
10

She doesn't like you and you should stop asking her to hang out with you.
/r/seduction09/03/14 05:05 PM
7

In my opinion, the worst thing you can do is make a sexual move on a girl before you've indicated interest in her. Ask her on a DATE first, and then invite her back. Otherwise, you look like a creep.
/r/seduction09/03/14 03:12 PM
2

This is the dumbest thing I've ever read
/r/seduction09/03/14 01:53 AM
2

i feel like a group of my guy friends and i have started to grow a disconnection since then Why? Is it because you've become a douchebag? In that case, don't be a douchebag. Is it because they suck at gaming? It doesn't matter, you should still keep them as friends. Most guys suck at gaming and being good at gaming isn't a measure of your worth. Is it because you don't have much in common? It doesn't matter, you should still make time for them. Is it because they are jealous? in that case, they …
/r/seduction09/03/14 12:27 AM
1

The next day she messages me saying all that stuff about how she likes me and wants to keep talking. The plot thickens my friend. No she is still just using you. You need to move on.
/r/seduction08/03/14 09:43 PM
0

When a girl is giving you mixed signals it is most likely because she doesn't really give a fuck about you and she is just keeping you around for the attention. If a girl really liked you she would be obsessed. I would say to her "look are you interested in me or not." If she doesn't give you a clear yes, move the fuck on.
/r/seduction08/03/14 09:06 PM
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She's not "gaming" you - she's not interested in you. If a girl says "we are friends" then you need to move on.
/r/seduction08/03/14 08:45 PM
1

I mean, I don't know about you, but girls didn't go out with guys in my high school unless they liked the guy. "Like" is a complicated word for girls. It's not an on-off switch. Yes, I'm sure she had some interest in him, but its easy to ruin by acting needy, over-aggressive, etc... I was also responding to your advice on being too invested. That's like telling a starving man not to be hungry. The most important rule of seduction is that you have to be less emotionally invested in her. If you ca…
/r/seduction08/03/14 07:50 PM
1

Or your game sucks
/r/seduction08/03/14 06:52 PM
2

How are the rules different because he's in high school? Freaking out and asking her what is expected of "us" is even weirder if its a person you see all the time if you've only been on one date.
/r/seduction08/03/14 05:37 PM
1

Ok but so what? Most guys can't change their looks overnight, so you might as well focus on what you can control.
/r/seduction08/03/14 05:37 PM
8

An example. In high school my sister was a dancer and just generally athletic. So I would call her fat all the time. Don't ever call a girl fat under any circumstances. EVER. EVER. A lot of girls have huge issues with their weight and even if she looks like she has a hot body, she may have had an eating disorder in the past or some other insecurity you have no way of knowing about. Just don't go there at all. Same with anything related to appearance, being emotional, etc... Some of the advice he…
/r/seduction08/03/14 05:32 PM
2

To top that off i asked her what she expected out of "us" Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Why would you ask such a thing? After one fucking date? .well its been like 20 hours so im at a loss. First of all, you're too emotionally invested. 20 hours is not that much. I would ease off for a few days and then invite her out again. If she says yes, great. IF not, move on.
/r/seduction08/03/14 05:25 PM
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No I actually never get pussy
/r/seduction08/03/14 04:30 AM
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this is the kind of thing that makes me hate seddit
/r/seduction08/03/14 02:36 AM
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It's a silly worry on her part. You may think so, but she may not. There is nothing worse than dismissing a girl's emotions when she has a legitimate concern. Diffuse it with a joke and she'll forget all about it. How do you know? Do you know that girl? Can you read her mind? Were you there? If not, you have no way of knowing that she'll "forget about it." Make it into a big deal by validating her ridiculous fear being a slut To a lot of girls, their fear of being a slut isn't "ridiculous." It's…
/r/seduction08/03/14 02:35 AM
2

It's not a fucking shit test. She doesn't want to fuck a sleazeball that fucks a lot of chicks. NOT EVERYTHING IS A FUCKING SHIT TEST. Sometimes girls have serious thoughts. And its fucking stupid and misogynistic to think that everything that comes out of a girl's mouth is a shit test. Jesus Fucking Christ. This poor girl has a legitimate worry that she is fucking a manwhore and everybody here is going to write as many dumb, witty, retarded one-liners as they can think of. In that situation, I …
/r/seduction08/03/14 02:09 AM
3

You better not get STDs
/r/seduction07/03/14 09:56 PM
2

Please, learn enough to not suck before you venture forth I completely disagree. the cringe-worthy part was the last thing he said was 'Please PLEASE call me'. It's better to do that, fail, and learn from your mistake than to read in a book somewhere to never say "Please PLEASE call me."
/r/seduction07/03/14 08:36 PM
1

You gotta figure it out. Go where those people hang out and introduce yourself. Just be like "I go to an all boys school, I need to meet girls." There might be people at your school that have friends at regular schools. If you have real balls, you can just show up to one of their parties.
/r/seduction07/03/14 07:22 PM
5

Let her go for a while. Her fear of you (because you're crazy) will fade for a little bit and then you can run into her again on less crazy terms. And then later try to start again. But not now. You freaked her out.
/r/seduction07/03/14 07:11 PM
1

Do you go to an all boys high school? Go make some friends that go to a high school that has girls. Go to that school's parties. You will be popular because you are an "outsider." You can also try extracurricular activities in your hometown.
/r/seduction07/03/14 07:10 PM
1

In every relationship one person has the power, and it is usually the person that less emotionally invested. And in your case, it is her. You may feel all these deep feelings for her, but she doesn't. She is kind of using you for sex until she finds a guy she really wants. Your best bet is to disconnect yourself emotionally. And you made a mistake by doing this with somebody at work because now you can't go no contact unless you quit your job. I honestly don't give a shit about that. Well, you s…
/r/seduction07/03/14 07:08 PM
5

You're going to fuck it up. It's going nowhere. Now go out and enjoy yourself.
/r/seduction07/03/14 07:03 PM
0

How do I make the conversation interesting? Talk about interesting shit (shit that both you and her find interesting). Don't just ask her questions. Ask her questions if she brings something up about herself that is interesting. Remember, you have to enjoy the conversation too. It shouldn't be just you interviewing you or you trying to make her happy.
/r/seduction07/03/14 05:50 PM
1

I don't think she knows what to do or how to act I'm pretty sure a 16 year old girl is old enough to know that its weird for somebody who you're not dating/talking to/interested in to just touch you. If you ever want to kino somebody you need to make it clear why you are doing it.
/r/seduction07/03/14 05:16 PM
0

I disagree with all the responses here. Basically, most guys let her steer the conversation. She is watching TV? I don't give a fuck. It's not interesting to me. This is what I would say: Me: Hows it going? Her: Nothing much just watching t.v Me: Guess what I'm doing Her: What? Me: (something awesome that you're doing) Pretending that you care what she's watching is automatically putting her on a pedestal. She knows there's nothing interesting about her watching TV so you pretending there is dec…
/r/seduction07/03/14 05:11 PM
5

She responds with a paragraph of why she can't meet up, all having to do with her being tired and having work again at 5am. That's a reasonable excuse. A part of me wants to believe her, the other part wants to call her bullshit. No, don't "call her bullshit." First of all, you have no way of knowing she is lying and that is a pretty harsh accusation to make to somebody. Secondly, you should have such an awesome life going that it doesn't affect you that she canceled. No matter what your plan is…
/r/seduction07/03/14 05:07 PM
1

Just be playful, not acting like you want sex or something. No that's the completely wrong advice. You have to be clear about your intentions. She either will like it or reject you. But if you are just being "playful" then it's weird to touch her and you are putting yourself into the friendzone.
/r/seduction07/03/14 05:02 PM
7

You done really fucked up. Kino is only appropriate when you've made it clear you are interested in a girl and she has shown some (minimal) interest back. Otherwise you are just creepily touching her. It's not normal to just touch people. There was a post about some guy sitting next to a girl on a bus and kinoing her. DON'T. Let her know you're interested. If she likes you back, go for it. Otherwise, back off. Also, there are some situations where its just inappropriate (especially if you're in …
/r/seduction07/03/14 05:01 PM
2

you don't really need to pretend. It's not the number of women. You have to think you can get them. You have to think you are good enough. Of course, it helps if you've actually gotten some of them. But even if you haven't, you have to think you can. You have to basically be a little delusional.
/r/seduction07/03/14 04:58 PM
2

Why are you whispering in her ear? And you have to come up with your own stories
/r/seduction07/03/14 02:50 PM
0

Ok well if you want to hang out with a girl in a dating format, a Facebook invite isn't the way to do it. You call/text her and ask her out. If she doesnt' respond, that's rude (or she is not interested), and you shouldn't be happy to see her after somebody is rude to you. That's my $0.02.
/r/seduction07/03/14 10:54 AM
10

Ya got too invested too early. Go back and read your post. You fell in love with her in like the first 5 minutes. Too much.
/r/seduction07/03/14 04:21 AM
3

I'm not impressed by your story. You texted a girl, she ignored you, and then you acted happy to see her again? So, she apologized? So what? You get nothing out of this interaction. If I ran into a girl that ignored my text I wouldn't be "negative" but I would say hi really quickly and then ignore her. She blew it.
/r/seduction07/03/14 03:35 AM
3

Dont. Its douchey and it will eliminate one of them.
/r/seduction06/03/14 11:08 PM
2

Op as you grow into an adult you will realize that once you graduate from high school people won't show you their disapproval. They will silently judge you and then hurt you thr next chance they get.
/r/seduction06/03/14 11:06 PM
-1

You need therapy.
/r/seduction06/03/14 11:04 PM
1

AA will always be a problem. Anybody that's acts like they've "conquered" aa is full of shit. What reduces AA is successful approaches. Once you bag some 8s you feel less akward approaching 6s
/r/seduction06/03/14 10:52 PM
10

but I jokingly ask them so I have game? and they respond with a yes. Don't do this. Girls want to think you actually like them, not that you are running "game."
/r/seduction06/03/14 09:26 PM
6

I'm fine with that.
/r/seduction06/03/14 07:46 PM
10

No you're not. If you text a girl "hey let's hang out" and then text her two days later "hey let's hang out" there is nothing alpha about that. In fact, it makes you look MORE desperate to forgot the initial rejection.
/r/seduction06/03/14 07:38 PM
9

Why is this awful advice? What do you have to lose? At worse you wasted some phone time. Now, if you keep texting a girl over and over again, that's a problem because you're wasting your time and you're ruining your self-esteem. You're developing an unhealthy emotional attachment to somebody who doesn't like you. That's bad. But one more text doesn't hurt you. And the fact is, the advice works. Girls may not respond to your text for a variety of reasons. They may have legitimately missed it the …
/r/seduction06/03/14 07:30 PM
8

Never want to sound like you were waiting on a womans reply. I'm sorry, but I think this is silly. She knows you asked her out so if you're gonna ask her out again you have to acknowledge the first time. Otherwise, you're coming off as a vacant idiot.
/r/seduction06/03/14 07:20 PM
2

I say, if the staredown lasts for longer than like 3 seconds, smile and wave. And then go introduce yourself. Women aren't aliens.
/r/seduction06/03/14 03:16 PM
2

The "sleep with 10 other girls" rule only works when you have an irrational attraction to a particular girl, not when you break up with a long-time ex. It's a lot harder to get over a long-time ex, and the way to do that is to improve yourself and become a different person than the guy she dumped.
/r/seduction06/03/14 03:12 PM
3

There is no such thing as "hard to get." The girl doesn't like you. Move on. Even if she did like you, why would you waste your time with this bullshit?
/r/seduction06/03/14 02:59 PM
1

Here is another piece of advice: you have what is known as one-itis. Even though you no longer want your ex, your opinion of yourself is still influenced by her treatment of you. Because somebody cared about you treated you like sh$t, you look at yourself like sh$t. YOur solution is to work on yourself and become a different person, so that person your ex treated like shit no longer exists.
/r/seduction05/03/14 11:37 PM
7

stop trying to get girls to like you. just go up to them and talk to them.
/r/seduction05/03/14 10:01 PM
2

You've got to ask if you would even waste your time on those girls. Yes they are "interested" but they will probably lose their interest right when they get you back.
/r/seduction05/03/14 09:06 PM
6

dude you're naive. When people have stereotypes against you all the logic in the world won't convince them. IT's like trying to convince Christians they are wrong or white supremacists that black people are cool. It's dumb for OP to risk his grade to make a "point" about a community that doesn't need any publicity.
/r/seduction05/03/14 07:43 PM
2

I just can't bring myself to give a shit most of the time Sorry but this is a lame excuse. You want to meet girls and get laid. Who doesn't? It's just that your AA is using the "I don't give a shit" excuse to justify not approaching. As the Greek philosopher Plato once said, laziness is really just fear of failure because if knew you could obtain the goal given the effort you would.
/r/seduction05/03/14 07:22 PM
3

I meant: how are we going to turn the extremely negative view on our society. A lot of the negative view is justified. Most PUAs are creeps and predators. You can use these techniques in a positive way, but a lot of guys don't.
/r/seduction05/03/14 07:20 PM
1

I don't see how a lawsuit can be filed for a speech about self help? College "tribunals" are a lot more lax than actual courts and if somebody is offended, you are fucked. There is no real oversight or "law" you're basically going to be put in front of 3 feminists who are hyper-emotional and already hate you. Why risk any negative backlash?
/r/seduction05/03/14 07:18 PM
2

The Mark Manson "Models" model: Let the girl know from the 1st interaction that you are attracted to her. Other PUA methods involve creating attraction by making the girl wonder if you're into her or not. There is no real contradiction here. You should let her know that you are interested in a romantic/sexual relationship, but at the same time let her know that you are feeling her out and you are not all in. That's what dating should be: an indication that you MIGHT like her - you have to basica…
/r/seduction05/03/14 07:17 PM
4

dust off your shoulder, give zero fucks and watch her swoon if you're watching her swoon, then you are still giving fucks. I don't think there is anything wrong with indicating that you are still interested. Of course, you should move on and not look back, but the real "not give a fuck" thing to do would be to be honest.
/r/seduction05/03/14 07:06 PM
1

This is such a fucking important point. A lot of people here talk about "rejection" but the reality is that there is no such thing as "rejection." Just because a person doesn't want to talk to you today doesn't mean they will hate you forever. I live in a pretty big city (Atlanta) but I often run into the same people again and again. Sometimes I'll have a conversation or interaction with them once and it won't go well, but I will meet them again and become friends (or close with them). Think abo…
/r/seduction05/03/14 06:53 PM
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I don't want to get preachy about alcoholism, but I will put it like this: if you can't control your drinking, don't drink. Alcohol should be fun and a tool to get loose and meet people, not as a way of leaving planet earth. If you do go out to drink, go out with a gameplan: I will only have X drinks and then I'm DONE. It might suck because you might sober up and want to keep having fun, but if you can't create boundaries for yourself you need to not drink.
/r/seduction05/03/14 06:46 PM
8

My version: 1- Meet girl 2- Make intentions known that you're looking for a dating / sexual partner 3- If she seems open to it, ask her on a date. 4- If she says no, make it clear that you are still interested but move on.
/r/seduction05/03/14 05:01 PM
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dude you need to change your topic. please. i know people in the community know what it is but to anybody else it sounds sleazy. Change the focus of it somehow. Just take the words "pua" and "getting laid" out of it - make it more about how there are self-help groups on the internet like r/disciplined and r/getmotivated, and how these groups help people's social interactions. just don't make getting laid part of it, or at least make it a small part.
/r/seduction05/03/14 05:00 PM
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I decided to do my informative speech on what a PUA is. Do not fucking do this. This community has a terrible reputation in the eyes of regular people and your speech will not change that. Also, you do not want kids in your class (and your teacher) thinking you're a creepy predator. If you want to give a speech on this topic, don't make it about PUA. Make it about friend zone or the nature of relationships or something tangential like that. Other than that, I agree with your whole thing about th…
/r/seduction05/03/14 04:46 PM
1

This was exactly what I was going to say. No girl owes you here number, so if you go out with the intent of getting a number and you get shut down you will be angry and humiliated. Your main goal should be to just have nice, pleasant conversations with people. In fact, you have a huge advantage - the fact that you're a bartender means that its your JOB to have pleasant conversations with people. Girls will feel more comfortable talking to you because you're just doing your job. Talk to them like…
/r/seduction05/03/14 04:13 PM
2

Basically, the idea is just to give the impression that you're not seeking her approval, and that your compliment is merely a genuine observation rather than an attempt to win her over with flattery. This is probably the truest thing I've red on this sub. There is nothing creepier than a guy giving compliments to get approval.
/r/seduction05/03/14 03:53 PM
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First of all, find things that make you happy that aren't women. Friends, activities, books, etc... Can you stay in on a Friday night and have fun? If not, you have a problem. You need activities that take up so much of your thoughts and emotions that women seem like a distant memory. Second, you need confidence in yourself that you COULD get any girl you wanted, so you don't need THIS particular girl. This one is hard because your biology is yelling at you to do the opposite, but this is what y…
/r/seduction05/03/14 03:51 PM
1

Not only can charisma be learned, ANYTHING can. One of the problems with our society is that we think that some things are "magic" (love, charisma, etc...). The reality is that everything can be broken down into logical elements. If you think of things as magic, you will never get ahead.
/r/seduction05/03/14 03:30 PM
1

instead, focus on complimenting her outfit or any accessories she has. I wouldn't even do that. She knows you don't give a fuck about her purse. The best compliments are the ones where she can tell you have no ulterior motive whatsoever and you are genuinely impressed by something about her - i.e., her personality, something she did, etc... Here is my opinion on compliments. http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1vgn94/how_to_compliment_people/
/r/seduction05/03/14 01:34 PM
0

If you are really serious about getting funny, go do comedy. There are open mikes every where. I do stand up as a hobby and it has made me a lot funnier (not to mention, girls are VERY interested in any guy that does anything artistic). Otherwise, there is no "formula" for being funny. There was actually a professor who tried to find a formula for what made a joke funny, but it failed miserably. The funniest shit is shit that is a complete surprise. ' I've thought about writing a post about how …
/r/seduction05/03/14 01:32 PM
5

This is truth. A lot of people (myself included) want to find a "formula" for things, but the fact is that there are some things that just cannot be reduced to a formula. Women are human beings and its difficult to find a set of "rules" that work with all of them. In addition, a lot of it is just feeling it out. Guys want to learn the "rules" for texting, but you just have to feel it out for the particular situation. If you text too much you look needy and pathetic and if you text too little you…
/r/seduction05/03/14 01:29 PM
1

Depends on what you means by the word "vulnerable." If you blurt out your life story on the first date about how you have terrible depression and anxiety, yeah, that's bad. But ... I think the very definition of confidence is being able to talk about your weaknesses, acknowledge them, and show that you are fixing them.
/r/seduction05/03/14 01:26 PM
2

Being vulnerable isnt the same as being needy. Neediness is about wanting something from the other person. The danger with being vulnerable is that you sound oathetic or weird.
/r/seduction05/03/14 01:08 AM
5

How can you play the game for so long without finding someone that you'd be interested in initiating a conventional relationship with This place isn't all about random lays. Some people want to find a conventional relationship. Some girls here are kissless virgins. I know a guy in real life who used PUA techniques to meet his wife. How you use the knowledge you learn here is up to you. You can use it for good or for evil. Is being 'the manwhore/scumbag/bastard' that some girls mention in convers…
/r/seduction04/03/14 10:02 PM
2

Shit tests definitely exist. Women will say fucked up things to see how you react and if you react well (i.e., alpha and/or dominant), they become more attracted to you. I don't think Mark Manson says that shit tests don't exist. I think he says that you shouldn't chase women who shit test you. I agree. It's fun to chase those "bad girls" but if a girl is constantly challenging you and constantly saying fucked up shit to see how much of a "man" you are, you're not in a healthy relationship and y…
/r/seduction04/03/14 09:08 PM
1

It doesn't matter how you act. She rejected you. It's over. You don't need to impress her anymore. I personally don't believe in the concept of rejection. If a girl doesn't want to talk to me at a bar, that's not a "rejection." She may want to talk to me later. I may have come off weird. I've been rejected by girls and fucked them later. At the very least I know that if a girl gets to know me she would un-reject me.
/r/seduction04/03/14 06:30 PM
1

I wouldn't do "meaningless conversation" but yeah, if you are too inconsistent with your texting the girl may think you aren't interested. Every situation is unique. All we DO know is that too much texting makes you look needy and is bad.
/r/seduction04/03/14 05:46 PM
2

This only works The point of that isn't to get the girl back - it's to make yourself feel better. FYI, she phrased it like that, so it reminded me of this post. That's so weird. Maybe I have girls reading my posts. Or maybe you flaked on a date with me??
/r/seduction04/03/14 03:32 AM
1

This is my guide: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1vpxcb/how_i_ask_girls_out/ Also, I ask girls if they are single right away. I want to remove any ambiguity and weirdness from the conversation right away.
/r/seduction03/03/14 07:25 PM
2

Stop reading shit. Just go out and talk to people, without expecting anything. You're getting theory overload. You have to figure this shit out for yourself. The books are just shit that worked for those guys that may or may not work for you.
/r/seduction03/03/14 07:10 PM
2

Nobody has any idea what went wrong, but I am assuming that you are making the common PUA and r/seduction mistake which is that you will talk to any girl who will talk back, and you don't worry about whether the girl actually likes you or not. I mean, look at this: 1 girl was on a date, so our interactions were spread out) You got a phone number from a girl WHO WAS ON A DATE??? Why??? Why would you even waste your time on her? You should have been like "oh you're on a date? bye." First of all, y…
/r/seduction03/03/14 07:07 PM
2

Some guys never pass that phase. My friends brother is 40 with an amazing wife and kids but he is leaving her because he wants to bang random girls. He admits it and he even admits there is nothing wrong with his wife. Also if you spend your life chasing oussy you are jeopardizing your health, your career, your reputation, etc.. also what of tou meet "the one" but dump her because you want other warm holes?
/r/seduction03/03/14 06:00 PM
2

If you can get through that without getting douche chills you're a better man than I.
/r/seduction03/03/14 05:57 PM
2

i don't understand why this post is getting downvoted. it's entirely reasonable.
/r/seduction03/03/14 05:19 PM
18

It's not that "girls act different" - it's that girls use text/facebook/online dating/tinder/etc... as a way of getting attention from guys without actually making any commitment. Girls love attention, so even if they don't like you, they will happily chat with you all day and then blow you off if you actually want to hang out with them. That's reason #234 that you should only uses texting as a way of setting up in-person hangouts.
/r/seduction03/03/14 05:16 PM
6

well fix your anxiety, don't rely on cigarettes as a crutch
/r/seduction03/03/14 05:13 PM
6

Incredible Escalation Yeah she did a great job escalating. It was all her. All he did was say a bunch of corny shit while she was making out with him.
/r/seduction03/03/14 03:37 PM
2

I needa figure out how to make me happy/content first. Do fun shit in your life that you are passionate about.
/r/seduction03/03/14 01:13 PM
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I need to give less of a shit after getting laid. No you don't. You're fine. Fucking random girls isn't fun. The only reason some guys pretend they like it is because they are emotionally insecure. Sex with somebody you care about is way better. Find somebody you care about and use your skills on them. A vagina is just a warm hole - it's nothing special. Guys who act like they're the shit because they put their dick in lots of different random warm holes have something wrong with them.
/r/seduction03/03/14 01:13 PM
3

Hey want to go out on a date?
/r/seduction03/03/14 01:11 PM
14

You're 16 and you smoke cigarettes? Don't. It's bad for you. Who cares if girls like it or not? You're young enough to prevent it from becoming a habit. Also, you're a loser if you smoke/don't smoke just to impress girls.
/r/seduction03/03/14 01:10 PM
5

You're both wrong. Why should he care about sounding insecure? He's given up on her. He's moved on. He could send her a picture of his turd if he wanted. But StupidWes is also wrong - why should you even think about a line to tell her - you've given up. You've moved on. The thing about moving on is that you actually fucking move on and not hope to become mysterious so she'll like you again. Moving on is moving on.
/r/seduction03/03/14 04:10 AM
4

NLP is bullshit. Avoid.
/r/seduction03/03/14 12:50 AM
1

Please tell me.this is a troll post
/r/seduction03/03/14 12:32 AM
3

Don't do this
/r/seduction03/03/14 12:12 AM
2

You shouldn't ask.questions where the answer could be maybe. You should always offer a definite time and place. If she comes great. If not, neeeeeeeeeeext.
/r/seduction03/03/14 12:11 AM
0

Your coworker sounds like a huge dork
/r/seduction03/03/14 12:10 AM
1

Not at work
/r/seduction03/03/14 12:09 AM
3

practice practice practice. read models and some of the shit here but run everything you read through your own personal filter. realize that most people are full of shit, girls are all different, and just because some thing worked for one guy doesn't mean it will always work
/r/seduction02/03/14 09:13 PM
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Saying seduction is about what works is retarded. If you want to get laid that bad get a hooker. There are plenty of women that will let you fuck them on the condition that you buy them a bunch of stuff or they treat you like shit. This "pussy at all costs" mentality is for losers. And I wasn't generalizing "women" I just know that most HUMANS wouldn't a stranger writing on their arm. Its fucking creeoy and an vasion of you personal space. And like I said, its not necessary to use tricks to get …
/r/seduction02/03/14 07:33 PM
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So what? Even if it did work in his situation, it wouldn't work 99% of the time. Even if it DID work 99% of the time, it's still a waste of time. Just go up and say hi. It accomplishes the same thing. Girls aren't stupid little children that need games and shit to hold their interest. This whole thing comes off as insecure and try-too-hard for me.
/r/seduction02/03/14 06:50 PM
6

99% of pua videos, books, and blogs are complete and utter horseshit
/r/seduction02/03/14 06:33 PM
-5

You ever get resistance from girls when you try to draw on their arms? 99% of women would never let you do that shit. So I don't believe this FR. Sorry I'm an asshole.
/r/seduction02/03/14 06:31 PM
1

If they were interested in pua, they would read about it. They're not, so they don't.
/r/seduction02/03/14 06:28 PM
0

But I read something that said you shouldn't ask these in the first 10 minutes so what do I say after I've opened? Well that's wrong. I always "what do you do" "what do you t hink of this bar", etc..
/r/seduction02/03/14 06:24 PM
2

that's probably either because you dress up like a douche or you give less of a fuck when you look gross
/r/seduction02/03/14 02:44 AM
2

That's a pretty big thing to ignore
/r/seduction02/03/14 02:30 AM
2

Make fun of.yourself. be like "I need you in ny life." Shell be impressed you lost the weight
/r/seduction02/03/14 12:42 AM
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this and /thread
/r/seduction01/03/14 03:43 PM
1

Not right now, but I'll call you when I change my mind/have more time That's about as harsh as a rejection can get. I would cut contact and not respond even if she did call. If she did call I would just say "sorry I've moved on." That's an insanely disrespectful and ugly thing to say.
/r/seduction01/03/14 03:43 PM
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IF YOU WANT TO BE FUNNY DO COMEDY
/r/seduction01/03/14 03:42 PM
9

Have you fucked her yet? If not, this could all be teasing. I'm not impressed till you close.
/r/seduction01/03/14 03:42 PM
1

First of all, you can't stress about shit you can't change. Your brown. Fucking deal with it. If you're with a girl, just be like "do you have a problem with brown guys"? That's all you can do. Second, the key for any race is to act the opposite of your racial stereotype. For example, a black guy who wears nerdy clothes is cool, whereas an Asian who does so is not. Similarly, a black guy who dresses like a "thug" immediately gets pigeonholed as trouble, whereas a black guy who dresses like a whi…
/r/seduction01/03/14 01:16 PM
2

ask her out
/r/seduction01/03/14 02:32 AM
1

Normally i dont get so broken up about all this but she is special Read everything on the internet you can about oneitis. You're getting that. Hard. If she wanted to talk to me or get in touch dont u think she would have called or texted No girls don't call guys. Period. Girls only call guys if they are really desperate or if you are deep into the relationship.
/r/seduction28/02/14 07:50 PM
2

I disagree. Women and men both are attracted to unpredictable people because our brains literally crave novelty. Once we "figure somebody out" they don't excite us as much. We are attracted to people we can learn from, who can introduce us to new experiences, and who are difficult to understand. Women do want emotional engagement, and part of that is something new and interesting. OP is right that you shouldn't show all of your cards right away, but you also shouldn't wall yourself off so much s…
/r/seduction28/02/14 07:12 PM
1

How did you go on a date if you didn't have her phone number?
/r/seduction28/02/14 07:08 PM
1

is this is the same joshsway or a different sway
/r/seduction28/02/14 06:39 PM
1

She'll extend her hand curiously, and I'll give her a twirl. That's corny, don't do that. IF you want to leave a good impression on women, just go up to them and act like a normal person and stop trying to impress them with tricks. Girls are just like guys.
/r/seduction28/02/14 05:49 PM
1

Rock star, billionaire CEO, famous artist Focus on being those things before picking up girls at McDonalds.
/r/seduction28/02/14 05:48 PM
1

you're supposed to call her not wait for her to call you.
/r/seduction28/02/14 05:43 PM
0

Douchebag of group: Why?!? YOU: Cuz I want to talk to her and get to know here. It's not hard, folks.
/r/seduction28/02/14 05:42 PM
1

From her looks I would say she is a HB9, but because her ex-boyfriend is prominent I would put her as HB10. Ewww. Please don't get caught up in this bullshit mindset. Nobody is more valuable because they fucked somebody famous. I felt really like she was just shit testing me and I failed... I wish the word "shit test" just would disappear. When you are in a girl's bed and she rejects your advances thats not a shit-test - that's a fucking rejection. At some point I ask her whats going on between …
/r/seduction28/02/14 05:28 PM
1

Don't pick her up, because then you are responsible for her. You want to be able to leave the date any time it stops being fun. Tell her to meet you at the bar.
/r/seduction28/02/14 03:52 PM
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Why do you even want to do that? The goal is to get home.
/r/seduction28/02/14 03:32 PM
3

There are no basics. Nobody in America knows how to date. There is no rulebook. Girls generally want a guy to take control and plan the date. IT doesn't matter that you don't live in SF - you need to pick a bar (not restaurant, that's too formal for the first date), and then another place after that, and do it all close to where you live so you can close. Also, don't get drunk and don't put yourself in a position where you have to stay with her if she is behaving badly. That's all. Also, you hav…
/r/seduction28/02/14 03:32 PM
7

If you know them in real life ask them out in real life. Dont be a pussy and do it iver the computer.
/r/seduction28/02/14 03:16 PM
3

You make the fucking rules
/r/seduction28/02/14 03:13 PM
4

Don't do anything to increase your looking like him. I've noticed that a lot of people who look like famous people purposely wear their hair, clothes, etc... to look like that person to get precisely the type of attention that you are talking about. If I were you I would just say "I'm not X" and move on. Don't bask in the attention.
/r/seduction28/02/14 01:40 PM
2

Why is it that when i meet a girl and sleep with her, as soon as i get any sort of sexual contact (even just making out), theres no way i will like her. Because your dick tricked you into thinking that you liked the girl. And then after you had sex and your dick fell asleep, you realized that there was no attraction. Emotions are powerful things, and they hijack your logical thinking capabilities. It's the same reason guys get one-itis. A girl rejects them, and their emotions freak out (you are …
/r/seduction28/02/14 01:51 AM
2

You did everything wrong. You should have gotten her phone number. Fuck snapchat and facebook. Then you should have called her and asked her out. Also don't force being funny.
/r/seduction27/02/14 11:33 PM
2

Move on
/r/seduction27/02/14 11:26 PM
1

A lot of girls have weird "issues" - you can either push your game and hope to overcome their "issues" by your confidence and awesomeness .... or just move on to another girl. I would do the latter myself.
/r/seduction27/02/14 09:24 PM
17

Because you should be picking it. Girls want a guy that doesn't fuck around when it comes to having a clean nose.
/r/seduction27/02/14 09:06 PM
16

Another win for the "girls like guys who don't give a shit about them" philosophy.
/r/seduction27/02/14 04:34 AM
2

Guys, help me break down the characteristics and traits of that cool, disengaged, aloof friend you know that people are just drawn to. You're thinking of what everybody in the room thinks of you. They're thinking of something else. What? I don't know. Could be their workout, the project they're working on, or pizza. Just something else. That's all not giving a fuck is. Just think about something else.
/r/seduction27/02/14 03:51 AM
1

First you take a cracker. And then you form a circle... You know the rest.
/r/seduction27/02/14 03:50 AM
1

Getting numbers doesn't mean shit. Girls give out numbers like it was candy. You have to build attraction and an emotional connection. Don't do the shitty PUA thing where you talk to them for 5 minutes and then hand them your phone. Ideally you have a nice long conversation with them with them wondering if you even want their number. And then when you do get it, you use my guide to text them: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1vpxcb/how_i_ask_girls_out/
/r/seduction27/02/14 03:49 AM
3

It's not a "game." They aren't doing this consciously. Thing is, you literally are more attractive when you aren't invested in them and they know you have other girls. Solution? Stay with the other girls.
/r/seduction27/02/14 03:25 AM
24

Your body has a biological reaction when its around somebody it sees as "above" them. Our ape genes are wired to look at the world as a hierarchy and oftentimes when you "like" somebody it means you look up to them. Solution: stop caring.
/r/seduction27/02/14 03:24 AM
2

don't ask her what her plans are. say "I'll be at X" and invite her
/r/seduction27/02/14 03:23 AM
1

Don't
/r/seduction27/02/14 01:45 AM
5

the only reason you want this is because you want to be clingy and obsessed with somebody. That's a shitty and pathetic way to live your life. Your happiness should come from your hobbies and your life, not somebody who is obsessed with you.
/r/seduction25/02/14 02:17 AM
1

Figure it out. You're using your lack of license and money as an excuse. It just has to be a place where both of you can go and do something fun. Don't buy into this bullshit mentality that you need to have a bunch of money or a nice car or big muscles or whatever.
/r/seduction25/02/14 01:38 AM
0

I'd like to turn it into something more but I don't quite know how. Ask her out. End of thread.
/r/seduction25/02/14 12:47 AM
1

depends on the situation. you know what is and isn't appropriate. you don't need a girl to tell you. I usually just do it with kino and jokes.
/r/seduction24/02/14 09:56 PM
3

Yes. It will feel weird at first. But do it.
/r/seduction24/02/14 09:23 PM
0

Don't worry about looking like a douche or a creep.
/r/seduction24/02/14 07:38 PM
1

After college there is no such thing as a "social circle" - your friends are your friends and that's it. So if you can't approach you're fucked. And the reason you're not having success at approaches is because you're not good at it.
/r/seduction24/02/14 04:37 PM
-1

First of all, you can't be asking other guys what an "alpha" thing to say is. We're not always going to be there for you. If you want to be "alpha" you have to learn to: 1) Literally not give a fuck what anybody thinks of you. 2) Talk like you know you're the shit. 3) Straw strong boundaries around bad behavior. Here's what I would have said: 1) "Awww you two would make a cute couple!" I would have walked up to her and said "You know the reason that guy said is cuz he's playing games, right? He …
/r/seduction24/02/14 05:50 AM
1

I wrote a post about seeking rejection: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1xhhez/your_goal_should_be_to_get_rejected/
/r/seduction24/02/14 05:46 AM
0

Girls that are right out of relationships are tricky. One on hand, she may really like you, but, as you said, she may just be using you as a replacement. When you're not completely over somebody you don't care about who the other people are, you just need somebody to fill that gap in your soul.
/r/seduction24/02/14 05:08 AM
4

there's a tab on the first page that says "top" posts.
/r/seduction24/02/14 04:33 AM
0

I wanted to know how do I go about asking for the number to playfully text them? ???????? Why do you want to "playfully text" girls? You should be asking girls out on dates. Last thing I want to do is to make someone travel in the city to meet me or is she suppose to do that? Why not? Make her come to you.
/r/seduction24/02/14 02:40 AM
1

Stand up comedian here. Can confirm. It also helps you in other ways (connecting with people, losing stage fright, not giving a fuck, etc...)
/r/seduction24/02/14 01:33 AM
8

First of all, the reason she is even texting you this is because you are moving too fast and getting emotionally over-invested. Secondly, this isn't so much a shit test as a way for her to say "Look, I'm going to fuck other guys, so don't be mad at me if you catch me." I would text back "don't worry, I didn't feel like we were exclusive. Also, its totally cool if you want to hook up with other guys" (say that in a way that doesn't make you sound bitter).
/r/seduction24/02/14 01:32 AM
1

Yeah, but I didn't cover waiting in between texts. If you keep texting to logistics, you don't have to worry about pretending to have a life by waiting in between texts.
/r/seduction24/02/14 01:24 AM
1

Yeah I'm nervous, I like you. Sue me.
/r/seduction23/02/14 10:01 PM
4

Because lines sound fake and forced. Girls aren't stupid, y'know.
/r/seduction23/02/14 10:01 PM
4

Why????? You don't let her control the flow of the conversation. YOU FUCKING DO. If she is waiting 3 hours to text back every time I just quit texting. I don't have time for that bullshit. I have a fucking life with shit going on.
/r/seduction23/02/14 09:59 PM
9

I text back right away. I don't have the time or patience to time my texts. I don't want to have all day text conversations with a girl. If a girl texts me and I'm available I just text her right back. A person who actually has shit to do in their life doesn't have time to wait every 45 minutes to send a text. The whole point of "waiting" in between texts is to not look over-eager and over-invested. Here is a better way to not look over-invested. When she texts you respond to whatever point she …
/r/seduction23/02/14 07:15 PM
0

I completely disagree with everything you wrote. If a girl rejects me, she has fucked herself over. Yes, there is always a chance I can get her back, but why would I fucking bother? There are so many hotter girls than her in the world that I would be a pathetic dumbass if I kept chasing a girl who said no. Maybe one day she'll recognize her mistake, but that's not my problem.
/r/seduction23/02/14 06:48 PM
-2

Here is my texting guide: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1vpxcb/how_i_ask_girls_out/
/r/seduction23/02/14 05:36 PM
11

Truthfully, if it went that well, there is no way texting can ruin the attraction. You would be fucking surprised.
/r/seduction23/02/14 05:35 PM
1

First of all, NOT EVERYTHING IS A FUCKING SHIT TEST. She may really just not be interested in you. Here's the thing: women are very emotional and their emotions are subject to change at a whim. So a girl who tells you she just wants to be friends today may change her mind tomorrow. Buuuuut... if she told you she just wants to be friends, you are entitled to respect that statement and you should see yourself as already waaaay behind. Question is this: do you want to be her friend? If yes, go on t…
/r/seduction23/02/14 05:34 PM
2

There's different kinds of peacocking. You definitely want to stand out and look good (i.e., better than everybody else), but you don't want to look silly or stupid. I like to wear bright colors, a tie, etc... Just make sure it fits you and looks natural on you, and not like some prop you are wearing to look cool. I see a lot of guys wear crazy shit like sunglasses in the club or crazy suits but it doesn't really fit them, it looks like they just put something on to look wild. Mystery's outfits …
/r/seduction23/02/14 03:38 PM
2

I wonder what she's like Gold! Gold!
/r/seduction23/02/14 08:37 AM
2

No you're not doing anything right. She likes you, but you're freaking her out.
/r/seduction23/02/14 05:19 AM
21

You have absolutely no reason to not approach because YOU WILL NEVER SEE THESE PEOPLE AGAIN. You can make a total ass of yourself with absolutely not consequences.
/r/seduction23/02/14 04:25 AM
4

cuz he's a known troll on this subreddit and its insane the mods haven't banned him yet.
/r/seduction23/02/14 04:25 AM
1

Usually, when I find a girl that I find attractive, she is a shop clerk of some sort. No, usually when you find a girl you aren't scared of talking to, she is a shop clerk. There are plenty of attractive girls that aren't shop clerks; you're just scared of talking to them. And no, it's not shameful, there is just a tiny chance that she is actually talking to you because she likes you. More likely, she is just doing her job. Same with strippers. There are some strippers that will actually like yo…
/r/seduction22/02/14 10:43 PM
1

And I try to always take around twice the time to respond as she does to show that im busy living my life I don't agree with that mindset. I text back right away, but I always text things that end the conversation. I never try to continue a text conversation, I have more valuable shit to do with my life.
/r/seduction22/02/14 10:41 PM
2

"The one who loves the least, controls the relationship." Depends on what you think love means.
/r/seduction22/02/14 08:47 PM
1

but that night she stopped responding to my texts You were texting her the night you hooked up? Sounds like you're texting too much. You're getting needy and overbearing which is what is making her stop replying. Stop texting completely and then when you see her just play it cool. And then when she texts be spotty in your responses.
/r/seduction22/02/14 08:43 PM
3

ASK HER OUT
/r/seduction22/02/14 08:41 PM
22

It never becomes "easy" - every girl becomes different. The two things you need to learn are this: 1) don't become emotionally invested in them until they've become emotionally invested in you and 2) the same way guys are attracted to ass and titties, girls are attracted to a masculine, confident man that will look them in the eyes and talk to them like he knows he can fuck them.
/r/seduction22/02/14 08:40 PM
10

First of all, this girl seems like a trainwreck. So stay away. And yes, she seems dead-set on having the power in the relationship, blah blah blah. But secondly, you handled it "emotionally" too. The real "not give a fuck" thing to do would have been to walk over there RIGHT WHEN YOU SAW HER, say hi, make some chit chat, and then go back to your table. Even if she already rejected you at some point in the past, you saying "hi" was still a reasonable thing to do. You playing the stupid eye contac…
/r/seduction22/02/14 05:33 PM
6

This is a stupid debate and all the posts in this thread are wrong because nobody knows what the word "love" means. There are two definitions of the word "love." The ancient definition and the modern, pop-culture definition. The modern definition of love, influenced by romantic comedies, and Disney movies, is that "love" is an overwhelming emotion that conquers all emotions and all rationality and all practical considerations. You're a Harvard-educated Catholic lawyer who lives in New York and l…
/r/seduction22/02/14 05:25 PM
1

Here's the solution: Men have a much higher and more immediate sex drive than women. That's what freaks women out - they don't understand it. However, if you present your sex drive like a woman would, you're golden. Women's sex drives are different in that they are more worried about finding the right mate and much more influenced by various factors. If you act picky and like you are seeking a more longer term mate, you will unlock.
/r/seduction22/02/14 03:03 AM
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First of all, you're already overinvesting. They live in a different city, so therefore you shouldn't really give a fuck about them. Also, you've only met them once so its weird to keep texting them and stuff. They know you live in Boston; just call them when you go to NYC.
/r/seduction22/02/14 02:27 AM
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don't even fucking bother.
/r/seduction21/02/14 09:13 PM
1

Climate? Smells like an excuse for AA to me.
/r/seduction21/02/14 09:12 PM
6

I’m not going to lie, but I really care more about meeting someone that I want to truly be with, I don’t want to be a “player” or anything I want to have a deep connection with someone. The main reason virgins are virgins isn't because they can't get laid, but because they have Disney movie visions of what love is in their heads so they turn down every opportunity for sex. The reality is that in our society you don't form a deep emotional connection with women and then have sex with them. In rea…
/r/seduction21/02/14 09:05 PM
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The other side said "Let's grab a drink this weekend" under that were options 'yes', 'no' and 'obviously' all with unmarked boxes next to them. How old are you? Are you in junior high? You should have just asked her in person. And never allow "no" to be an option. You always need to ask as if you already know she will say yes. Me(10 min. later): Lucky! Sounds like a fun trip. How about early next week? See, this is where I disagree with most of seddit. Here you are trying to look like you don't …
/r/seduction21/02/14 09:00 PM
8

How old are you? You know what's better than nude pics? The girl actually fucking naked in your bed. I've never received or sent nude pics to a girl, and I really don't get it. I imagine it's a way for girls to get attention from guys without actually putting out. Focus on fucking the girl. If you she won't fuck you, then nude pics are a shitty consolation prize.
/r/seduction21/02/14 06:01 PM
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It is a tough balance to strike. Some thoughts; 1- Even when you think are being "nice" you are most likely just being emotional. Your emotions have a weird way of influencing your behavior when you don't even know it. If you looked at it objectively, most girls deserve a lot less praise/compliments than you give them. 2- Put yourself in their shoes. If they heard your compliment/praise, would they see it as genuine? Or would they see it as you just trying to be nice? 3- Be as logical as possibl…
/r/seduction21/02/14 06:00 PM
1

I'm not sure what you are asking, but here a few parallels that you learn in the world of PUA: 1) You should live life doing what is right, not seeking approval from others. 2) Appearance and confidence sways people more than you think. 3) You should focus your emotions on something you are passionate about.
/r/seduction21/02/14 12:39 PM
1

Another big reason lots of guys are here is because they can't assert themselves and express their intentions. That's true. But the way you "assert yourself" and "express your intention" is to be like "hey are you interested or not?" not to send her supplicating texts and beg. Any AFC can text a girl they think likes them a million times - Lord knows we have all done that. Third, she openly agreed to come to his place to "watch a movie". We all know what that's code for No there is no code. She …
/r/seduction21/02/14 09:39 AM
2

It has nothing to do with the detail of your conversations. It has to do with the fact that you are more emotionally invested in the girls you like so you act needier and more pathetic around them. And you don't even know it.
/r/seduction21/02/14 03:41 AM
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No. It hasn't "paid off" until you fuck her, which you probably won't. Your entire posts drips with neediness, desperation, and supplication. Yes, she agreed to go on a date with you. But so what? Chances are, that she's not going to fuck you. She knows that she is in control, she sets the terms of the relationship, and she knows that no matter how much she ignores you/rejects you, you're going to come back like a little puppy dog. Even if she does fuck you, at what cost? You were pathetic. If y…
/r/seduction21/02/14 03:38 AM
2

Think about what she is probably feeling at that moment (work sucks, work is slow, she's bored) and then bring that up: "You must be really bored this time of night being here by yourself." The best conversations are those that touch the girl's feelings.
/r/seduction21/02/14 02:17 AM
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Stop thinking you need to impress girls when you talk to them. Imagine they have to impress you.
/r/seduction21/02/14 01:19 AM
-2

You can google them yourself. You've shown yourself clearly hostile to my point of view, and I've seen too many feminists like you dismiss any evidence that men and women have biological differences..
/r/seduction20/02/14 09:40 PM
8

Small talk is about stupid, boring, petty immaterial shit (the weather, etc...) You want your conversations to be deep.
/r/seduction20/02/14 09:14 PM
6

The Iron Rule of Seduction is that you need to be less emotionally invested in them. Period.
/r/seduction20/02/14 08:54 PM
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well science has shown that men and women are different. Plus, pretty much every society has certain rights and responsibilities for men and women, and it is only western industrialized societies that have different gender roles, because of the feminist movement.
/r/seduction20/02/14 08:39 PM
0

Cute, but no. Sorry it contradicts your preconceived notions, but science and common sense has thoroughly shown that men and women are biologically different and these differences extend to behavior as well. I know that feminism isn't really interested in "science" but its true.
/r/seduction20/02/14 08:38 PM
2

Because different societies have different norms. Why do different countries have different laws?
/r/seduction20/02/14 07:31 PM
3

I will admit that I am openly an affectionate person. Well other people may not like that if they aren't as emotionally invested as you are.
/r/seduction20/02/14 07:02 PM
4

I hate seeing this gender binary bullshit so often on this subreddit. Sorry but its true. Women and men are different. They have different emotional needs. It is "societal norms" that tell us they are the same.
/r/seduction20/02/14 06:56 PM
10

You're acting too needy and aggressive. Remember, she needs to be trying to impress you, not vice versa.
/r/seduction20/02/14 05:55 PM
3

This is exactly right. Getting "amped up" is actually bad for you. You need to do the opposite: you need to approach nonchalantly, not giving a fuck, so if she says no, its like nothing happened.
/r/seduction20/02/14 05:55 PM
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There are no tricks and techniques. As the man, you need to be in control of the conversation. Change the subject whenever you want. Interrupt her if you have to.
/r/seduction20/02/14 05:54 PM
1

Look. There are no "rules" for social situations. If you want to talk to people, just do something. As long as you are not an asshole it will be fine.
/r/seduction20/02/14 03:16 PM
1

There are no magic lines to making women horny. Women are very complex creatures that need lot of different criteria to be met before they get attracted to a guy. But in general, its not really what you say, but how you say it: confident, in control, dominant, etc... That site looks like a scam.
/r/seduction20/02/14 03:12 PM
2

Think about whatever you want in a man, and then be that.
/r/seduction20/02/14 03:09 PM
1

Yeah I wrote this and I stand by it.
/r/seduction20/02/14 08:13 AM
1

I'm getting annoyed by all the idiots here who think PUA is just coming up with the right one-liner and that they need to be "persistent" after girls reject them.
/r/seduction19/02/14 10:27 PM
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Umm, isn't the real reason most of us are here is because we've been taking dating advice from women our wholes lives? Granted, in this instance she's totally correct and I agree with her Whenever a woman gives you dating advice, you have to run it through your own internal filter to see if its worth anything or not. This one easily passes. She said "saying X makes you sound douchey and it has always failed on me before." That's pretty solid evidence. Of course, all girls are different.
/r/seduction19/02/14 10:26 PM
-1

I have heard a woman say "I didn't want him at first" about her husband, while cradling their newborn. Did you read my whole post? I admitted that there are tons of confused, flaky women that will change their mind. Hell, I banged a girl this weekend that had previously rejected me. But the fact is ... WHY WOULD YOU WASTE YOUR TIME CHASING THOSE GIRLS? Why would you risk the fact that she might not change her mind? There are tons of girls in the world - go for somebody who actually likes you.
/r/seduction19/02/14 10:25 PM
0

By cranky I mean that you're not spending all your time trying to make her happy and that you have your own thoughts and needs too. Go read every women's magazine and every post on r/twoxchromosomes - it's all women trying to figure out how to make their man happy.
/r/seduction19/02/14 10:23 PM
2

Oh, you mean be a pussy who's afraid of expressing interest? If you had read my entire post it says that I ask if a girl is single right away. So I never get the "I have a boyfriend" thing in the first place. And the only reason girls give you "I have a boyfriend" is if you're coming on too strong. So in that case, I have to pull back.
/r/seduction19/02/14 10:19 PM
4

It's a shit test, which could mean a lot of things. Do you know what a shit test is? A shit test is when a girl says something mildly rude to test how dominant and alpha you are. Saying "I have a boyfriend'" is not a fucking shit test. It's a rejection. It's a clear, outright rejection. It's not like her "walking away" or playing hard to get. Of course, you can always come back from a rejection, but why would you waste your fucking time?? Simple pickup video First of all, I could barely watch th…
/r/seduction19/02/14 10:12 PM
0

In every relationship there is one party that is trying to qualify themselves to the other party. Usually its the guy trying to convince the girl to like him. When the guy is going out of his way to impress her and qualify himself to her, he is basically saying to her "look, I am not leaving you, I am totally invested in you, I just want you to not leave me." But if the guy doesn't do that stuff, and just acts nonchalantly and a little cranky, then the relationship shifts to the girl trying to i…
/r/seduction19/02/14 10:06 PM
2

I need to be really special? No, she needs to be really special for me to want to spend time with her. And she has already disqualified herself.
/r/seduction19/02/14 10:04 PM
2

There is nothing wrong with killing the mood. One of the biggest problems noobs make is that they let girls get away with murder because they don't want to "kill the mood." If a girl says something offensive, or racist, or demeaning, or whatever, I kill the mood immediately.
/r/seduction19/02/14 10:03 PM
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One basic bit of knowledge in seduction is that what girls want, what girls say they want, and what girls respond to, are all different things. Yes, that's true. But thekateruth has said that guys have come up to her and said this kind of this kind of thing, and every time she was immediately turned off. So.... that's pretty strong evidence that 1) she says she doesn't want it 2) she doesn't actually want it, and 3) she doesn't respond to it.
/r/seduction19/02/14 09:00 PM
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Normally it would be sexist to say that a comment deserves to be a comment because it was written by a woman. But.. the whole point of this thread is about whether this line would impress women. And ... the only 3 girls in this thread have all said that this line would not work on them. Therefore ... the line probably won't work on girls. I don't know - just a crazy hunch. OP's reason for using this line was that he "thought it was pretty good." Eh.... I'll go with the female perspective here. I…
/r/seduction19/02/14 08:56 PM
-1

A lot of times a girl mentions the boyfriend out of fidelity to the boyfriend. Her hope is at that by mentioning him, she has done her due diligence. That's a good point - but... you're still wasting your time hoping that she will cheat on him. Why not just go for the single girls? Like I said somewhere else, if she was interested in you, she would come find you after you reject her.
/r/seduction19/02/14 08:36 PM
5

Well in that case it wasn't a shit test. She was being honest - she had a boyfriend. Now women fall in and out of love all the time, but why would you wait there for her to open up when you could just go find somebody single.
/r/seduction19/02/14 08:32 PM
6

Thanks for your response. Basically, if you ask a girl more than once, you are begging. Gross. The "witty comeback" rule is based on the misogynist idea that women are so flaky and confused that when they say "no" they don't really mean it. Now, I am sure there are lots of girls that are that stupid/frivolous/emotional/etc..., but: 1) why would you scrape the bottom of the barrel for those girls, and 2) what if the girl you are talking to ISN'T like that and is actually serious? Bam, you just wa…
/r/seduction19/02/14 08:29 PM
1

Girls hate rejecting guys that way - they don't want to hurt guy's ego. Also, saying "I have a boyfriend" is a more solid rejection, so the guy doesn't try to convince the girl to like him. A lot of guys can't take that ego hit, and will keep hitting on the girl. Random girls have no obligation to be nice to you. EDIT: Whoever is automatically downvoting all my posts ... grow up. LOL
/r/seduction19/02/14 08:14 PM
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Every time a guy has said something like that to me in response to me mentioning my bf, I think they're instantly scummy, and won't even do them the favor of introducing them to my hot single friends. JS. First of all, this should be the top comment, seeing as you are actually a female. Most of the guys here are socially immature douchebags who don't know fuck one about how to interact with girls. Also these threads are less about serious responses but what guys WISH they would say if they were …
/r/seduction19/02/14 08:06 PM
2

This a million fucking times. Why would you waste your time trying to get a girl who already has tried to repel you?
/r/seduction19/02/14 08:05 PM
-1

I'm really only getting downvoted by the particular dude I am disagreeing with. There are a lot of emotional people here who don't understand the concept of "disagreement". In fact, I know there are at least 3 guys right now that are automatically downvoting everything I post. The fact is this: You can fuck almost any girl if you put enough time/effort in. You can fuck a girl who rejected you. You can fuck a girl who said she wouldn't fuck you if you were the last guy on earth. You can fuck a gi…
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:55 PM
2

It's a shield - which means you're not interested. Which means the guy should move on.
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:54 PM
-2

By not trying to fuck a girl with a boyfriend I'm a white knight? Do you know what a white knight is?
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:51 PM
19

THANK YOU!!!! Some guys act like its a normal thing for a girl to say "I have a boyfriend" as a shit test. No its fucking not. The only time a girl will say "I have a boyfriend" is if you are coming off badly. Do you think if Brad Pitt walked up to a girl she would say "I have a boyfriend"??
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:25 PM
3

Have you ever gone out? No I've never gone out. I've actually never left my mom's basement. I only read Models day and night. "I have a boyfriend" may be the most used shit test I ever seen used by girls. WHO GIVES A FUCK??? If a girl says "no" to you you are a fucking pathetic loser if you continue trying to "get" her. I would just say "ok" and move on. If the girl really was shit-testing you, she would come find you again because her shit test failed. I literally don't have the fucking time to…
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:24 PM
-1

He could just try to be saying something witty so he doesn't have to say, 'Okay' with a forever alone face and walk away looking defeated. Who cares? Who is he trying to impress?
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:20 PM
-2

1) Girls aren't always honest about having a boyfriend. I've seen single girls use that excuse reflexively. If they're lying, then that's more evidence that they are not interested. Why waste your time? Yeah, its always possible to flip them. But why waste your time? Move on. If Brad Pitt asked them out, would they say "I have a boyfriend"? No? Then don't fucking bother. 2) Asking a girl if she is single gets a reflexive response, we want to get her to not think about what we want, but what she …
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:19 PM
0

Please rewrite so its clear waht you're talking about.
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:03 PM
3

"That's okay, I'm not the jealous type" Uggggggh. I HATE THIS. Reasons: 1) If she has a boyfriend, you should already be walking out the door. Why are you wasting your time trying to fuck a girl with a boyfriend? What's the point of this line? What are you trying to accomplish? 2) You should have already asked her if she was single at the beginning of the conversation, and not let her spring it on you after you've invested a bunch of time talking to her. 3) If the girl is seriously trying to tel…
/r/seduction19/02/14 06:46 PM
-3

utilizing the friendzone for access to her social circle(s) is extremely useful Dude, you saying "you're like the sister I never wanted" is not going to make her stop being friends with you. Girls have a sense of humor too; they are not that fucking sensitive.
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:48 PM
-3

Teasing and joking around should be kept to a minimum if you're going to discuss something more serious like the dynamics of a relationship She just dumped him so he has no responsibility to assuage her feelings. Usually the person dumping feels very bad is very worried about how they come off, so coming back with a funny, lighthearted response is a good way to defuse that tension. But like I said, it doesn't matter. He got dumped; it's over. Also, he has no obligation to treat her like a sister…
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:28 PM
-2

well don't talk to girls when drunk.
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:16 PM
-5

not if its done in a funny way with a smile. Her saying "I'm kissing a close family member" is a very disrespectful and demeaning thing to say. By saying "you can be the sister I never wanted" I am saying: 1) I don't want to think of you as a family member, 2) I'm not fazed by your rude statement, and 3) I can handle your rejection with humor and levity. All humor is dependent on the situation and mood.
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:16 PM
4

Don't waste your time on these girls. They are literally just being nice to sell you something. There may be girls who actually like you, but the chance they are just trying to sell you something is too high to make it worth your time. Go find girls that actually are interested in you.
/r/seduction19/02/14 04:12 PM
2

No girl will ever, ever, ever say that so I wouldn't worry about thinking about a comeback. This is just a thing AFC guys think girls think. Girls don't think in terms of "leagues" or "high status" or any of that crap. If a girl ever did say that, you already fucked up because you showed over-investment. The whole point of a conversation with a girl is to show that you are on the same level as her, i.e., you are trying to figure out if you like her just as she is trying to figure out if she like…
/r/seduction19/02/14 04:10 PM
0

So you Text the girl back, the second you get an SMS. Wait from 15 minutes or more, is wrong.? I have shit to do in my life. I don't have time to plan my texts on a cycle. If I get a text, and I have a moment, I text right back. I also make it clear that I can't and will not text all day. We have our conversation as fast as possible and I usually end it by saying "Hey I'm really busy right now but I will text you to make plans at my first opportunity." And I do. So if she don't text you right ba…
/r/seduction19/02/14 04:06 PM
-1

Also, I don't know why you think he got attached. Her post sounds like it was written by a girl who was getting freaked out by a guy trying too hard. Usually you don't give that speech to a guy unless he is pushing the relationship ahead faster than you want. When I date girls they are thinking that there might not be a next date, not the opposite.
/r/seduction19/02/14 01:20 PM
4

Read your post again. It sounds like a lunatic wrote it. You sound like an emotional, desperate, hysterical, sad, frustrated, lonely, weird guy. OF COURSE GIRLS ARE FREAKING OUT WHEN YOU TALK TO THEM. If you are displaying any of the hostility, desperation or sadness in your OP when you talk to girls they will immediately sense it and run for the fucking hills. Do girls freak out when you order something at McDonald's? Do girls at your work freak out when you talk to them? Does your mom freak ou…
/r/seduction19/02/14 01:16 PM
-4

What's vindictive about what I wrote?
/r/seduction19/02/14 01:07 PM
0

What I normally do is wait from 15-40 minutes, both because I have other things, and because it shows that you have a life. What kind of life do you lead where you can take a break every 15 minutes to text? You can't possibly be doing anything serious. If I'm texting a girl and she texts back every 30 minutes I would just think she has nothing to do all day so she can just text. I text you for like 3 minutes a day and then I'm done. Does it drive you crazy when a girl, gets a important sms and s…
/r/seduction19/02/14 01:07 PM
0

She's not freaked out, she's just uninterested. Women's interest is not like men's interest. Men's interest is binary - I either like you or I don't. Women are much more fluid and are influenced by a wide variety of things and their interest is much more likely to fluctuate. She obviously had some level of interest, which is why she went on 2 dates with him, but he ruined it by acting too needy. She may also have decided "they didn't have enough in common" but from the content of her message it …
/r/seduction19/02/14 01:05 PM
-1

itsnotascam is a troll
/r/seduction19/02/14 03:56 AM
3

never heard of people so involved after 2 dates. She's not involved. He is. He got way too invested early on and freaked her out. Common problem.
/r/seduction19/02/14 03:56 AM
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1) She starts telling me how guys stare or (ineptly) hit on her and how creepy/goofy/annoying it is. These is a serious shit test. This is basically the girl trying to exert control and domination over you by trying to act like she is the prize. I would say something like "are you bragging about getting hit on"? Put her on the defensive. 2) Bla-bla-bla... but I don't know you at all! (Usually at the end of the date after we actually had quite a lot of rapport!) You're being too aggressive which …
/r/seduction19/02/14 03:51 AM
1

The thing is, these responses don't even matter. Once a girl has friendzoned you, you should already be looking ahead and not even think about the original girl. By putting effort into these responses you are subconciously hoping to get her back. Don't. Even if she did come back, you wouldn't want her.
/r/seduction19/02/14 03:45 AM
1

Obviously it has to be calibrated to the tone and context of the conversation. You definitely don't want to sound "bitter." You want to sound like "hey it would have been cool, and I'm disappointed you didn't pick me, but I'm going to move on and stop caring so fucking fast it will make your head spin. Worse yet, you may have lost your only chance at me."
/r/seduction19/02/14 03:25 AM
1

There is sympathy and there is empathy. Sympathy is when they feel bad for you. Empathy is when they've been through something similar. If you've been through something similar, you can build an emotional connection and they will look up to you if you've handled it better than they did.
/r/seduction19/02/14 03:22 AM
1

I would agree on waiting some amount of time before texting or calling back, around 10-15 minutes. Why?? Why would you waste your time playing these games? It literally takes more effort on your part. Just text her back right away. The whole point of waiting to text back is to not look needy or overly invested. You can accomplish the same goal by the contents of your texts. My reasoning is to simply to consistent and to set expectations by action. ??? If I'm driving or in the middle of something…
/r/seduction19/02/14 01:10 AM
0

You don't have to. But you can form a deeper emotional connection with a woman if you talk about the fucked up parts of your life. Sometimes when I'm talking with a girl I'll talk about other girls that dumped me. I don't give a fuck.
/r/seduction19/02/14 12:42 AM
1

Honesty about the sad and fucked up parts of your life. Of course, you have to be very careful about how much and what kind of vulnerability you show and when. EDIT: Don't downvote me because you disagree assholes.
/r/seduction19/02/14 12:28 AM
-1

A funny thing to do would be to lean into the girl and say "hey you should totally act like you're going to fuck by brains out so those guys feel like jackasses."
/r/seduction19/02/14 12:25 AM
1

Here is the problem: when you're in a LTR you get really emotionally connected and comfortable with a person. Shit gets easy. But in the dating world people aren't emotionally invested in you so you have to realize that people will be flaky, hostile, weird, dismissive, etc... It's harder for guys because girls take longer to get emotionally invested than guys do, and you're used to being emotionally invested. You have to realize that you are back on the battlefield. Here is a resource: playersjo…
/r/seduction19/02/14 12:24 AM
4

When a girl Text you, you wait about 45 minutes to text her back. I fucking hate that rule. I always text girls back immediately. First of all, it's polite. Secondly, it shows less investment than your way. When you do it your way, you are basically showing the girl that you read her text and are thinking about it, and you are just waiting for the "right" time to text her back. You way means you have to basically plan your whole day around texts. The only time I wait to text girls back is if I l…
/r/seduction19/02/14 12:21 AM
2

Dude if you're getting kicked out of bars on the regular, you need to quit drinking for a while. Try smoking pot. Also if you need to ask how to control your drinking you probably have a drinking problem.
/r/seduction19/02/14 12:16 AM
2

You: Hey are you single? Her: Yes You: Why Her: blah blah blah You: Ok, well do you want to go on a date with me Her: No You: Well that sucks. See ya around. Her: We can be friends. You: I would love to be friends with you, but I just don't have a lot of time to invest in a friendship right now, I am looking to date. See you around. (Note: this kind of friendzone can be reversed because you've expressed interest and you are handling it as an alpha) or... You: You want to go on a date? Her: Yes O…
/r/seduction19/02/14 12:09 AM
5

The whole key is emotional investment. The thing that freaks girls out if you are more emotionally invested in them than they are in you. So as long as you avoid that, you are fine. When you talk to them, speak with an air of detachment, like you are literally just interested in the topic of the conversation, not THEM. That will make them think: does he like me? Or is he just interested in this conversation? That uncertainty is what makes girls like you. That said, you still have to let the girl…
/r/seduction18/02/14 10:56 PM
2

First of all, the way to avoid the friendzone is to tell girls that you want to date them. That's it. You have to let them you know you are interested in them romantically. And furthermore, there will be no "green light" that will allow you to do this. You just have to do it. Secondly, the point of talking to girls is to form of an emotional connection. Being funny is one way to do this, but you also have to be serious and deep sometimes. If you're just funny all the time, girls will see you as …
/r/seduction18/02/14 09:34 PM
5

oh sorry
/r/seduction18/02/14 07:24 PM
28

What are ur thoughts if I wanted to see u in the middle of the week? Don't ask like this!! You need to be more confident. You need to ask as if you know she will say yes. You need to say shit like "hey want to meet me at X at y time" Her:I need a bit of space to think about things You: Ok, enjoy thinking But its when I kiss you I feel asif I'm kissing my best friend or a close family member. You: Yay!!! You can be the sister I never wanted. And then cut contact. The rest of that crap you typed o…
/r/seduction18/02/14 07:13 PM
1

Read my post. I CHANGE THE SUBJECT afterwards so there is no pressure. I just let her know that the "I'm not that kind of girl" thing is a socially constructed bullshit mindset. But then I CHANGE THE SUBJECT. I don't see where you are getting pressure from.
/r/seduction18/02/14 06:47 PM
1

you're getting needy and supplicating
/r/seduction18/02/14 06:32 PM
3

Don't worry about what you talk about. Just approach. Say something. That's all that matters. Stop thinking in terms of the end game and take baby steps.
/r/seduction18/02/14 06:20 PM
-4

Its not enough of a difference for it to matter. You are just justifying your approach anxiety.
/r/seduction18/02/14 06:18 PM
11

Still wrong. Those "nice" guys aren't really nice, they are just needy and supplicating and pathetic and creepy. Honest, genuine, friendly, nice, non-needy, non-supplicating men prevail over douchebags any day.
/r/seduction18/02/14 06:18 PM
4

How can a girl intimidate you? What is she going to do? Beat you up? Call your parents? Drain your bank account. Worse thing that can happen is she rejects you. Do this. Go find a guy who boxes. Ask him to punch you in the face. Great. Now, however bad that girl's rejection was, it won't be as bad as getting punched in the face.
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:56 PM
1

Dude your question was stupid. Girls are girls. They're not different by country or anything. Even if they were slightly different culturally, it should make no difference to you. You approach, you talk to them, you don't act like a creep or a douche. There is no magic here. I am not sure what kind of answer you were expecting.
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:54 PM
-2

dude all girls are the same
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:47 PM
1

Don't waste your time on Tinder. Most of the girls just want validation or just to talk to somebody. Source: I have lots of hot girl friends who use Tinder and they admit that they just use it for attention.
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:42 PM
-5

Pretty much every country in Europe. All those girls hate sex. They are also really huge bitches and hate men.
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:41 PM
6

Don't do it in front of your family dude. You can't be having crutches like that.
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:40 PM
-1

There is no such thing as a 10.
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:35 PM
5

The approaches involving 'mind reading' and 'the cube' seem most suited to me and my personality, and is definitely something I could see myself doing. Don't do that crap. Just walk up to girls and talk about whatever the fuck you feel like talking about. You sound like you're becoming one of those "readers" that reads a bunch of shit but hen never approaches. Just go approach. All the books in the world won't help you with that shit.
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:33 PM
-6

It's terrible. Girls there don't like sex or being touched. Don't go.
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:32 PM
16

I know everybody on this subreddit hates "serious" answers but whenever a girl says this kind of thing I get really serious. I say "Well I honestly don't see anything wrong with somebody who is comfortable expressing their sexuality. I think its disgusting that some women let society control their sexuality and how they use their bodies." I then change the subjection to something non-sexual and then later when I make the move there is never any resistance whatsoever.
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:31 PM
26

Pump me the fuck up! I'm a fat nerd and I'm going to fuck all the girls you want to fuck because you're too much of a pussy to do anything about it.
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:28 PM
3

They should pay you do advertise for him. About 20% of the users on r/seduction work for RSD
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:27 PM
2

Someone asking you "Do you have a girlfriend" is either socially inept or is shit testing you. Ok, you're clearly not reading my posts so this is my last response. ASKING IF SOMEBODY IS SINGLE IS A LEGITIMATE QUESTION. Especially if you are considering dating somebody. I ask girls if they are single within 5 minutes of meeting them every time. I want to cut the bullshit and I appreciate when girls want to cut the bullshit. Conversation over.
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:26 PM
-17

Nope.
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:25 PM
9

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Girls don't want douchebags, especially guys that are open about their douchebaggery. Girls want confident, assertive, dominant men who don't take no shit and don't get emotionally invested in them. There is a difference.
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:25 PM
1

You're being too aggressive and she feels like you are using her for sex. Usually if you bang the first night its good to not even make a move on the second date.
/r/seduction18/02/14 04:59 PM
0

You are so wrong. Whether you are single or not is a perfect topic of conversation, especially when you don't know somebody. You can talk about your theories of relationships, what you are looking for, how much dating sucks, etc... It's a great thing to talk about.
/r/seduction18/02/14 04:58 PM
-19

Cocky funny is for douchebags.
/r/seduction18/02/14 04:57 PM
1

So people who respond with a funny joke are dishonest? I didn't say that. Maybe you have a different (or lack of) sense of humor but don't act like you are somehow morally superior to the other guys here who refuse to answer a question that is oftentimes a shit test. Yes I am morally superior. If somebody asks me a serious question I give them a serious answer. I am 30. I have been on dates with married women who didn't tell me they were married. Lots of girls go on dates with guys who are marri…
/r/seduction18/02/14 04:56 PM
0

Now you are on the defensive and in a shitty conversation. how is it a shitty conversation? When I talk to women I am honest. I am not trying to be a snarky asshole or a comedian. I explain to them I have been moving around a lot and I can't find somebody I am compatible with. And that's the truth. but it's usually a shit test. People do not normally ask this question. I ask every girl I talk to if she is single.
/r/seduction18/02/14 04:19 PM
-5

if you say this you are basically saying "I do have a girlfriend, but I treat girls like shit."
/r/seduction18/02/14 04:12 PM
-5

"Do you really want to know? It's a long story."
/r/seduction18/02/14 04:06 PM
9

No don't do this cuz then they will think you are in a relationship and won't fuck you.
/r/seduction18/02/14 01:11 PM
0

Game the Guys as Hard as you Game the Girls. No Question Anything a Girl Says About You No Say "I'm a Virgin"/"I'm Gay" at Some Point No If you're in shape, twerk on her No Girls love tequila shots Girls are not all the same
/r/seduction18/02/14 01:08 PM
14

Not everything needs a fucking witty one liner!! Sometimes people are just trying to ask you a question like a fucking human being. Just say no.
/r/seduction18/02/14 11:59 AM
41

I know she likes me, but for let's say reasons out of both of our control we can't get together, at least not now. Look dude, if you "can't get together" with her then nothing in your FR means anything. Girls love attention and to flirt so they will literally do and say anything as long as they know you are in a cage. I'm not saying that you're wrong, but its just that you can't act like this is some awesome success. You're going to have to explain why you can't get with her or else you will con…
/r/seduction18/02/14 06:58 AM
-3

If you can't talk to a girl you can't bang her. Period. You have to talk to her. Also, a lot of girls just want to dance with a guy so you need to filter out those girls by talking to them first.
/r/seduction18/02/14 06:37 AM
-2

Don't walk up to girls and just try to dance with them. Introduce yourself.
/r/seduction18/02/14 05:56 AM
2

when you approach a "9" don't think of her as a "9". Talk to her just like you would anybody else. What's probably happening is that your confidence is dropping when you approach a 9 but you can't even tell. Talk them hoping for a rejection .
/r/seduction17/02/14 11:59 PM
1

How can you be sure THEY aren't acting different from the 7-8s? (this is what I think it is) You CAN'T be sure, but.... they're probably not. Girls don't classify themselves by numbers. They just are people. Why would a girl act differently because she is slightly more attractive? 9s bang ugly guys all the time. You would be amazed at how your subconscious emotions can affect your actions without you even knowing. The fact that you even think of this as a distinction is evidence you're doing it.
/r/seduction17/02/14 11:37 PM
7

you're treating them differently. your emotions are betraying you.
/r/seduction17/02/14 11:13 PM
1

Then she says "The door's quite heavy. Aren't you supposed to open it instead of me" You are just as strong as me.
/r/seduction17/02/14 09:59 PM
0

Yeah, it's normal. For boys in high school. I'm sorry, but unless he raped your mom or shot your dog, there's absolutely zero reason to get into a tizzy over someone being an asshole. Well agree to disagree. When you form an emotional connection with somebody (even if they are just a friend) and they are a jerk to you, it hurts, even if it wasn't your fault and they are being totally irrational. If you want to live your life acting like you have no emotions, go ahead, but your life will suck. Le…
/r/seduction17/02/14 07:39 PM
1

dude its normal to be upset when your friend is a dick to you. If your friend is an asshole and you don't get worked up over it you are either a sociopath or not really friends. This "don't give a fuck" mentality is going too far on this subreddit.
/r/seduction17/02/14 07:33 PM
1

Conversation ensued about which president you'd be--I'd be JFK, of course. I don't know how to say this, but JFK's term didn't end very well. "Dude, that girl was ugly. I give you no credit for talking to them, she's fucking engaged. You got nothing out of it, what a joke." This is just bitch talk. The fact is, society teaches guys that their value is tied up in the type of women they can "pull." So guys get very emotional and defensive when its clear that you have a skill at getting girls that …
/r/seduction17/02/14 07:32 PM
3

I don't know if you know this, but sex is just the act of putting your dick in a girl's vagina. That. is. it. There is nothing special or magical about it. All the shit you see in the movies about it being special or about some people being awesome "lovers" and about "experience" helping you is nonsense. Our whole lives we are raised listening to poems and songs about sex, describing it in every which way and coating it in flowery language when really it is a very simple biological function. Any…
/r/seduction17/02/14 07:17 PM
3

Try to figure out what is on their mind and talk about that. The best conversations are about shit that interests the other person.
/r/seduction17/02/14 07:13 PM
1

Everybody wants to feel good. The question is what is making you feel good. Is it girls? Is it your hobbies? Is it your interests? You need to base your happiness on stuff that isn't girls. You need to base it on your activities, hobbies, interests, etc... And realize that girls will like you if you have an interesting life.
/r/seduction17/02/14 05:17 PM
1

You are so wrong in so many ways. I basically told her I liked her, and that I already sensed she just saw me as a good friend. So you basically asked yourself to get friendzoned. Look, here's the thing. Women are a ball of crazy emotions that are always changing. They don't know what they want and that's why they need a man to lead them. By telling a girl "you just like me as a friend, right?" the girl will always say "yes" because you've made the decision for her. She MIGHT have been intereste…
/r/seduction17/02/14 02:02 PM
3

Don't "flirt." Just talk to them like they are people. And control your emotions. Read this: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1vw3ud/7_emotions_men_need_to_control/
/r/seduction17/02/14 01:57 PM
2

And when you get good at (regular) rejection, step it up to try to get rejected in a spectacular way. Why? What's the point of that? I wrote a post about purposely getting rejected: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1xhhez/your_goal_should_be_to_get_rejected/
/r/seduction17/02/14 01:54 PM
3

The whole point of the rejection game is to learn how to do an actual approach and get all the nervousness and anxiety that comes with that. The only difference is that by hoping to get rejected, you don't get your hopes up and you don't screen girls based on the chances of them accepting you. If you just cheat and tell girls that you want to be rejected they'll just be like "fuck off" and then you won't learn anything.
/r/seduction17/02/14 05:27 AM
2

good point. Even if he could F-close with her, why would you waste your time texting somebody that you're not going to be able to close with right away? Arent there girls in your own town you could be talking to? If she would fuck you, she wouldn't need to see pictures of your dick.
/r/seduction17/02/14 05:25 AM
2

that would defeat the purpose
/r/seduction17/02/14 05:13 AM
1

First of all, read this: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1vpxcb/how_i_ask_girls_out/ Secondly, here is the deal. Women are a ball of crazy emotions. Their emotions are constantly changing, constantly fluctuating, wild, and intense. They make no sense, have no rhyme or reason, and even women realize that their emotions are weird and crazy and irrational. As a man the only way you can be with a woman is to be a pillar of sanity and rationality and activate her strongest emotions so that…
/r/seduction17/02/14 04:36 AM
2

Dude nobody is going to read your boring text conversations. If she has a boyfriend then move on and stop wasting your time.
/r/seduction17/02/14 03:21 AM
2

This is not something anybody can help you with. You have to make your own decision. Do you like her or not?
/r/seduction17/02/14 02:26 AM
2

I told him I didn't care, cause what else could you say? You should have said "I have feelings for her, so it would hurt me if you guys started hanging out." But, you had to act "cool" so now you can't be mad at your friend for hanging out with this girl. Your solution? Go bang 10 other girls and get this girl out of your head. Anyway I don't have feelings for her anymore and I couldn't care less if she was with another guy, Yeah you do and yeah you do. Stop lying to yourself. One of the most bu…
/r/seduction17/02/14 02:25 AM
1

this is way too broad of a question
/r/seduction17/02/14 02:21 AM
1

Don't let girls do that shit to you. You need to clarify what your relationship is. Are we dating? Are we just friends? Put some pressure on her so you can get out of the grey zone. Girls like putting guys in the grey zone because they can control the relationship. Also, who is paying for the weed? Are you letting her smoke your weed? If so, bad bad bad.
/r/seduction17/02/14 02:21 AM
5

What I have to gain is nude snapchats of her You know there is a lot of porn on the internet. when she comes to visit she'll want to bang hopefully That's not how it works bro. If a girl wants to bang you she doesn't need to see pictures of your dick first. She will just bang you. The reason this girl is snapchatting you nudes is to get attention. She can do this because she lives on the other side of the country from you so there is no fear that she will actually have to bang you. Chances are y…
/r/seduction17/02/14 02:18 AM
4

How would anybody's opinion help you? You know what to do to look attractive. So do it.
/r/seduction17/02/14 01:10 AM
1

tall, dark and handsome is a bullshit phrase used in movies and romantic novels. It's not a real thing. A girl will fuck Danny DeVito if he makes her feel good. That said, why are coming on the internet to ask men for approval about your body? You can't control it, you can't change it, so you might as well just live your life.
/r/seduction17/02/14 12:54 AM
8

Don't. First of all, why are you snapchatting with a girl who lives across the country? Secondly, what do you have to gain from this?
/r/seduction17/02/14 12:53 AM
0

That shit doesn't work if you don't have a British accent
/r/seduction17/02/14 12:51 AM
2

You never ask a question where the answer could be maybe. You always offer a definite time and place when asking to hang out.
/r/seduction16/02/14 10:09 PM
0

I try to logically talk everything out, from a nonemotional perspective. I would have started with "hey it seems like that guy really likes you." If she is like "yeah I like him too" then its over you. If she is like "no he's being creepy" I would have been like "well let me know if you need me to rescue him from you."
/r/seduction16/02/14 09:43 PM
2

Be nice but emotionally cold. Don't go out of your way to impress her or talk to her. It will be hard, because your emotions will want you to be nice, but you have to resist.
/r/seduction16/02/14 09:38 PM
2

Can I just tell her, "hey I think you're cute, I want to take you on a date this weekend" No. Say, hey "are you single"? And then if she says no ask her why not. After a little banter, ask her on a date. Make her qualify herself to you. Remember, she is lucky to have you, not vice versa.
/r/seduction16/02/14 03:34 AM
1

Its an excuse for AA. Imagine if the girl came up to them. Do you thonk they would be like "no I'm good?"
/r/seduction16/02/14 01:22 AM
-3

Its in your Dna to see yourself in a battle with every other male in the tribe to.be the "akpha male". Just realize that and overcome it.
/r/seduction15/02/14 11:27 PM
2

wow what
/r/seduction15/02/14 10:24 PM
1

"Do you want to do something this weekend?" That's not too bold. In fact, it's not bold enough. If you want to ask him out you need to offer a specific time and place. You have to say "hey want to come to X's party on Saturday night?" People are more likely to say yes when you ask that way.
/r/seduction15/02/14 09:08 PM
4

I don't want to ask girls out on dates because if they reject me, it will be awkward, for them, and I think that everyone in the class will find out and label me a scum. That's their problem. There is nothing scummy about asking a girl out on a date if you do it confidently and you don't have any weird ulterior motives. If you fuck girls and then ignore them then they can call you scum. They might act weird because like nobody has the confidence to do that shit, but deep down they will be impres…
/r/seduction15/02/14 07:42 PM
4

Depends on the situation. Here is the process. Whenever you approach a new girl, your goal should be to quickly get to the main questions: "are you single" and "who are you here with"? You would be amazed at how many girls will happily flirt with you in a bar right in front of their boyfriend. You want to eliminate this possibility ASAP. So now she is single so you aren't doing anything wrong. If a guy in her group says anything to you whatsoever you immediately introduce yourself to him and say…
/r/seduction15/02/14 07:26 PM
40

Why some women who like you tend to pull you down in front of others? Here is a weird thing about dating. Men are attracted to nice, submissive women. So they assume women are the same way, so they act nice and submissive around them. Doesn't work - women don't want submissive. Women on the other hand, are attracted to dominating, aggressive guys with a "bad boy" streak. So they assume men want the same thing and they act dominating and aggressive when they are around guys they like. Unfortunate…
/r/seduction15/02/14 05:39 PM
1

this
/r/seduction15/02/14 05:36 PM
1

Don't fucking do it. Read all the other advice here. It never works. You're not the only guy in the universe that has wanted to do this kind of thing. Other guys have tried it. It never works. Secondly, you don't ever tell a girl anything. Telling a girl you like her doesn't mean shit. Words mean nothing to girls. Unfortunately, we live in a society where men are allowed to say whatever they want to girls, so girls hear nonsense from men all fucking day. I have a friend who works at Hooters and …
/r/seduction15/02/14 04:30 AM
6

A slapstick comedy where the plot doesn't matter, like Harold and Kumar. Nothing sad or weirdly emotional.
/r/seduction15/02/14 04:04 AM
6

Ummm........ You are friends with her. After 5 years, it would creep her out if you suddenly say "you know, this whole time we've been friends, I've actually been thinking of fucking you but I was too much of a gigantic pussy to say or do anything about it." That makes you look like a creep and basically negates your whole friendship. Every nice thing you've done for her now looks like a creepy underhanded trick to get in her pants. You see, girls put guys into buckets. This guy is one night sta…
/r/seduction15/02/14 04:03 AM
3

1) Inviting yourself over is douchey. 2) If she's having girls night you will not have fun and you will just stick out and be weird.
/r/seduction15/02/14 03:49 AM
6

Dude just have a regular relationship. Trying to make her "invest" in you will make you look like an asshole or a needy dude. "Investment" only works if a person does it on their own, not when they are being prodded.
/r/seduction15/02/14 03:48 AM
7

Don't.
/r/seduction15/02/14 03:46 AM
5

I run into PUAs all the time. They are easy to destroy because most of them are fucking morons who are basically reading out of a book. And most of them need to be destroyed because they are horrible at game and they end up creeping the girls out. (Not to mention girls can smell that shit a mile away nowadays). I treat them like regular people. Are you nice? Cool, then we can hang out. But if you're going to act like a douche and AMOG me, then I am going to call you out on it.
/r/seduction15/02/14 02:16 AM
1

She treated me like complete shit but I'm still upset? I really shouldn't give a fuck at all. You're allowed to feel upset. In fact, you should. You can't control your emotions and repressing them only makes it worse. In fact, the best thing to do when something really fucked up happens to you is to give yourself a few days to really let it all out and feel as sad as you want. And then after that, pick yourself up and move on. Also, keep in mind that your brain does something called counter-inst…
/r/seduction15/02/14 01:45 AM
0

I downvoted you because your advice sucked. No you downvoted my advice because it didn't align with your personal beliefs. There's a difference. Shitty advice is advice that doesn't work. My advice does work, for at least some people. It doesn't work for you. Fine. But it may work for others. Also, if you're downvoting shitty advice, why don't you downvote the Eckhart Tolle advice? IT's the same shit, just without the character named "God"
/r/seduction14/02/14 10:15 PM
21

Setting goals like "I must get laid in 3 months" is a recipe for disaster. First of all, 5'8 is not that short. You're not ugly either. You just need to go to the gym and get all these negative thoughts about yourself out of the head.
/r/seduction14/02/14 09:59 PM
1

Lord knows I fell for the same garbage for most of my life, so I'm not judging you for it. Yes you are. And you're being disingenuous about it. The guy asked for ways to accept your reality and I gave my opinion. I'm sorry you hated your childhood, but that's not a reason to downvote my comment. But don't dispense religious advice as if everyone believes the same thing as you. Uhhhh, how about I dispense whatever advice I want?
/r/seduction14/02/14 09:58 PM
0

Normally 2 weeks is a long time to wait, but given that she ignored his last text, he is justified in waiting as long as he likes. He's basically been rejected.
/r/seduction14/02/14 09:43 PM
1

Well living in a delusional fantasy world works for me and I'm happy and successful so that's why I made that post. I realize that you're better than other people because you're an atheist but you have to live with the fact that some people are going to be religious and you can't be a fucking asshole to them. I know that's hard for you, but at least try. I do respect the fact that you owned your downvote.
/r/seduction14/02/14 09:43 PM
-1

This is not something people on r/seduction can help you answer. It's basically a spiritual belief. My personal view of it is that I have faith in God. God is totally good and everything he does is for a good purpose. If a girl fucks with me or I have a shitty experience, it's so that I can learn something and become a better person in the future. Every girl that has ever fucked with me has made me a stronger and smarter person and has allowed me to improve my game to get a higher level of woman…
/r/seduction14/02/14 09:22 PM
-1

I reengaged with a HB9 I've known for a few years. I've pursued her at various times in the past, but failed to setup a meet-up. I already know where this is going. Before reading the rest of your post, let me predict: she's hot/cold, shows extreme interest and then extreme rudeness. Basically you're friendzoned. Ok that's my prediction. When we'd text Why are you doing this??? When texting we should get together, she suggested either Sat. night or Sun. brunch. She shouldn't be suggesting anythi…
/r/seduction14/02/14 09:18 PM
-2

I'm supposed to respond to you like an adult after you call me a "straight bitch"? Is that how you talk to people in real life?
/r/seduction14/02/14 08:42 PM
-4

Lol ok
/r/seduction14/02/14 08:34 PM
-8

yeah because they themselves are desperate
/r/seduction14/02/14 07:38 PM
1

Its a statistically proven fact that married men live longer than single men.
/r/seduction14/02/14 07:04 PM
1

I don't see the problem here. Are you worried about becoming spoiled? If a woman wants to do things for you, let her. It's in their DNA to want to do shit like that. Just don't take advantage of her. Let's face it. Men don't need women in their life for things. That's actually not true. If you were in a serious relationship with a woman (i.e., living together, etc...) you would need her to contribute financially, clean the house, run errands, etc...
/r/seduction14/02/14 06:03 PM
2

In the age of technology, everyone is on their phones constantly. If she was on a date with Brad Pitt, would she be on her phone the whole time? No? Then its rude for her to do it to you. "Would you mind not being on your phone when we are hanging out? You can do that anytime when I am not here. If you don't want to, then I can leave and just communicate through a phone, since that is your preferred communication option." No, that's passive aggressive and weak. Just be like "Bye I'm leaving."
/r/seduction14/02/14 05:03 PM
3

I disagree. This is passive aggressive and supplicating. I would just be like "you're being rude" and leave.
/r/seduction14/02/14 05:03 PM
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She didn't even try and give me an excuse, simply said she won't be able to make it. I texted her 'Alright, I'll pick you up at 630.' She sends me the same text, copy and pasted. Ewwww. This "don't give a fuck" mentality has gone too far. If she rejects you, you can't pretend like you didn't see it. You should be like "ok well that's disappointing. Have a nice week." And don't ask girls out on Valentine's Day.
/r/seduction14/02/14 02:51 PM
10

Here's the thing: i am convinced that women BIOLOGICALLY need a man to lead. So if a women insists on taking control that means she is either not interested in you like that, OR she is used to being in charge and having a man that will actually take charge will send her pussy tingles through the roof. One problem that a lot of guys have (and you seem to have) is that they think that dates and hangouts are all about the guy impressing the girl and making her happy. FUCK THAT. For a date to be suc…
/r/seduction14/02/14 02:49 PM
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Don't go "sarging" on Valentine's Day. There is just something desperation-y about it.
/r/seduction14/02/14 02:41 PM
0

"You're being really rude by staying on your phone." And then go home.
/r/seduction14/02/14 02:40 PM
1

This is a masterpiece.
/r/seduction14/02/14 05:23 AM
6

But if you don't believe in this Here is the thing about belief: you are a fucking moron. You don't know anything. You don't know what girls like what guys. If you did, you would be gay. So as far as you know, any girl could like any guy. As far as you know, Kate Upton dreams about your dick every night. Because any girl could like any guy, the hottest girl in the club might like you. You have no way of knowing whether she does or not. Your only option is to approach and see how she reacts. Your…
/r/seduction14/02/14 05:17 AM
3

no wait till next week
/r/seduction14/02/14 03:48 AM
13

You should never, ever, ever, chase desperate or "vulnerable" girls. Not because its fucked up to them (desperate girls need love too) but because its fucked up to YOU. You see, part of getting good at PUA is improving your own self esteem. And to improve your own self esteem you need to realize that you are worthy of the choicest fruits available. The hottest girl in the club with high standards? She's yours. That one girl everybody wants to date but nobody can. She's yours. If you aim low, you…
/r/seduction13/02/14 11:59 PM
0

If someone wants to make their goal to bang as many women as possible, it's their choice and this is the right subreddit to talk about how he can reach those goals. No, because if you make the purpose of your life girls it will make it harder for you to get girls. That's a major point about inner game that you don't seem to understand. So not only is chasing girls a shitty way to live your life, it actually prevents you for getting the thing you actually want. Now, if you had actually read my or…
/r/seduction13/02/14 11:51 PM
4

Its not about picking one girl or multiple girls. It's making the goal of your life girls.
/r/seduction13/02/14 10:48 PM
1

I'm not "shaming" anybody. You think I care too much. I just think its a stupid way to live your life.
/r/seduction13/02/14 09:30 PM
8

the last thing this guy needs now in his life is a crazy bitch making his life hell
/r/seduction13/02/14 06:58 PM
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No offense, but wait till you've actually fucked somebody before you start giving advice. Most girls get on Tinder for validation, not to actually meet somebody.
/r/seduction13/02/14 06:55 PM
4

if you're joking this is the most hilarious comment ever
/r/seduction13/02/14 03:34 PM
1

Any movie or television show. Any women's magazine. Anything written from a "feminist" perspective. If you do read that stuff, keep in mind that a lot of that advice is premised on the idea that she is already emotionally invested in you.
/r/seduction13/02/14 03:32 PM
7

No, because its ultimately unsatisfying and you paradoxically sabatoge yourself because you are not being outcome independent.
/r/seduction13/02/14 03:30 PM
2

haha this is the silliest one here.
/r/seduction13/02/14 03:29 PM
16

Possible problems: I knew I had to target horny and sexually-available girls, filter out the rest, and it all worked like a charm You may be purposely attracting girls that just want to fuck and have one night stands. Sometimes girls just want to fuck. Also the fact that you are fucking them in a hotel may make them feel cheap. I hit them up and hint at another meet-to-fuck session. I think this is your problem. The girls are feeling used. No girl wants to feel like she is just a fuck toy. In fa…
/r/seduction13/02/14 03:28 PM
62

Here is the secret for when anybody acts like an asshole: you need to do a "confident confrontation." A confident confrontation is this: you get right in their face (preferably the ringleader of the group) and explain to her EXACTLY what is going on. You don't need to "pretend its friendly" or any of that crap. You just need to show them that you are not a rapist or a psycopath. Be nice but also confident. This is how you do it: Get right in her face and be like "Hi, I'm X, I am interested in yo…
/r/seduction13/02/14 03:24 PM
6

ok then you need to move on. It will not end well if you contact her again.
/r/seduction13/02/14 06:25 AM
1

I am basically a kill joy. I can talk to you about physics or theoretical mathematics for days, but only 1 in every 10,000,000 people is actually going to want to talk about nothing but. I'm going to put this in the most asshole way I possibly can: Nobody gives a fuck that you know about physics. People want to talk about shit that THEY are interested and know about. If you only know about physics then you're shit out of luck. You need to be accomodating to other people's interests and not just …
/r/seduction13/02/14 06:06 AM
3

No. Here's why: Chances are the only reason you want to get in touch with them is because you have oneitis. Bad bad bad. Also, you have to really good to deal with girls you used to date because once you get in their presence you guys are both going to want to fall back into your old habits. It IS possible to bang girls you used to date though. Here is my story: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1wt57i/the_date_from_hell_or_the_dangers_of_oneitis/ Please keep in mind I'm not normally th…
/r/seduction13/02/14 06:03 AM
2

take a picture of yourself and hand it back to them and say "you can enjoy that too." Then . . . later in the night you MIGHT make an approach, but its got to be completely independent of taking their picture. Them asking you to take their picture is actually a bad thing for you because you are supplicating to them. They are dictating the terms of the relationship and its not good for you. That's why you take a picture of yourself - you try to regain some power. Think about it this way - if you …
/r/seduction13/02/14 05:58 AM
2

You're letting your emotions get the best of you. Your emotions are always trying to freak out. Tell them to calm the fuck down. You probably COULD HAVE gotten laid, but you ahve standards so that is good. To my knowledge I don't act needy or anything LOL your knowledge is not the right measuring stick for this. You probably are coming off as needy; because your emotions are going bonkers
/r/seduction13/02/14 05:23 AM
1

comedy show
/r/seduction13/02/14 05:21 AM
2

It means nothing 99% of the time.
/r/seduction13/02/14 05:21 AM
5

This is your ultimate goal - 100% openness, 0% investment. Its a hard thing to do, but once you do it, you're golden. What do I mean? By 100% openness I mean I immediately text back when a girl texts me, and I text her as much as I want. I don't follow the 3/2 rule; I text as much as I want. I'll text a girl a fucking textbook back if the situation warrants it. That said, I am 0% emotionally invested in her. By that I mean, I don't need her in any emotional way whatsoever. If I text her, it is p…
/r/seduction13/02/14 05:20 AM
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And I could've fucked Kate Upton and I could've started Facebook and become a billionaire. I just didn't feel like it.
/r/seduction13/02/14 03:30 AM
-2

I don't care, there is no "could've" in PUA
/r/seduction13/02/14 03:16 AM
-2

One I definitely could've closed on, just didn't put in the effort necessary to have sex with. there is no "could've" in pua
/r/seduction13/02/14 03:06 AM
5

Work on a hobby, art, or something. Do something that nobody else can do. And then realize that no matter how good you get at that thing, people will hate. Why? Cuz people are haters. Whenever they feel an inadequacy in their own files, they try to rectify it by tearing down others. Go on a typical Jay-Z or Lady Gaga video and look at how many mean, fucked up comments there are. Even the people at the top of their field have haters. Now think about how stupid it would be if Jay-Z based his self-…
/r/seduction13/02/14 03:05 AM
2

Don't go in on Valentine's Day. Wait for some other day. And then just be like "hey I was in the neighborhood and I remembered you. How are you doing?" If she responds positively strike up a conversation. Ask if she's single, and if she says yes, get her number and tell her you'll ask her out.
/r/seduction13/02/14 02:57 AM
3

How deep
/r/seduction12/02/14 11:54 PM
0

You need to stop seeing yourself as a beggar.
/r/seduction12/02/14 11:52 PM
2

Lol you're not "powering through" anything, you're friendzoning yourself
/r/seduction12/02/14 11:51 PM
5

"Hey do I have glitter on my face?"
/r/seduction12/02/14 08:37 PM
13

Ewww, you don't want to be taking desperate, emotional girls out on a date. Those are the type of girls that are either crazy or flaky.
/r/seduction12/02/14 08:30 PM
5

How about instead of asking stupid questions you just introduced yourself to them?
/r/seduction12/02/14 05:50 PM
6

First of all, the reason you obsess over your looks so much is probably because you have nothing else going on. That's why attractive people are often the most insecure - they think attractiveness is going to be their golden ticket in life, and then they invest too much in being attractive, and then their constantly paranoid they will lose their golden ticket. Your solution? Find some cool hobbies, do something artistic, read some books ... basically become an interesting person. Also, the harde…
/r/seduction12/02/14 03:37 PM
3

Don't believe videos on Youtube. They could be faked. You know the movie Ghostbusters? yeah, it didn't really happen.
/r/seduction12/02/14 03:36 PM
1

"If we really hit it off well on our first three or so dates together, what I want to know is are you available to have a sexual relationship?" Yikes! I don't know if you can say that. I think the key is to here is to do push pull, so you look less excited about sex than her. A lot of these "hangups" can be cured with good gaming.
/r/seduction12/02/14 03:32 PM
3

whenever you feel like asking. you control the conversation, not her.
/r/seduction12/02/14 05:23 AM
2

ask her if she is single
/r/seduction12/02/14 05:18 AM
0

Introduce yourself and ask if she'd like to dance.
/r/seduction12/02/14 04:53 AM
4

"Hi guys, I'm X"
/r/seduction12/02/14 04:52 AM
5

I think for now it's safe to err on the side of aggression, The opposite of "nice guy" isn't "aggressive guy." The opposite of nice guy is non-invested guy who doesn't give a fuck. Also, is touching someone as part of push/pull really that weird when first meeting them? Before you kino somebody, or push/pull, or any of that crap, you need to let them know you are interested in them in a sexual/romantic way. Otherwise, you're just a creepy dude touching them. I always go straight for the jugular:…
/r/seduction12/02/14 04:51 AM
1

But when a girl comes here and says if you aren't confident enough to make a full on approach you shouldn't even try, that is the wrong message. Who said that? I don't know about you, but when I first started learning PUA I wasn't comfortable enough right off the bat to just walk up and directly start hitting on a girl I didn't know. Look, if you need to do "bitch approaches" to get your feet under you, that's fine. But OP is still right - semi-approaches and bitch approaches come off as creepy.
/r/seduction12/02/14 04:27 AM
21

OP, no offense, but it sounds like you are being too aggressive and freaking the girls out. I don't care what anybody says, it's weird to kino a girl you are sitting next to on the bus. Save it for the date. Also, I hate this: "Look, my station's next, and we gotta hang out soon. You're giving me your phone number" and I jam my phone into her hands. This is a "trick" that only works because it confuses and intimidates girls. I highly doubt most girls you call using this method are going to be re…
/r/seduction12/02/14 04:19 AM
1

What's the sweet spot of how long you want to talk to someone before you ask for their number, I try to ask girls as soon as I can whether they are single or not. It gets rid of the "I have a BF" problem and it shows I am interested in POSSIBLY having a relationship w/ them.
/r/seduction12/02/14 04:17 AM
1

How do you go about using this to get girl to go out with you from using simple DM's to facebook messages. You should get her number before you get her Facebook information. And then when you get her # you should immediately ask her on a date. There is no room for "social media" in this.
/r/seduction12/02/14 04:14 AM
1

Here is my list: http://playersjourney.net/books-to-read/
/r/seduction12/02/14 01:04 AM
1

This is why your post doesn't make sense. No my post makes sense. You're just nitpicking. We're not in math class, we're in the real world. Walk up to her and say something NICE and inoffensive and then get rejected.
/r/seduction12/02/14 01:02 AM
16

First of all, men are much less likely to be attracted to "types" of guys like women are, so they may not be able to help. I personally think its kind of silly to be attracted to somebody based on what they wear or what "persona" they have. there is no "typical" hipster guy just like there is no typical IT guy. Also, your "image" of what an IT guy is like may be shattered when you actually meet one. Many of them are socially awkward nerds. That said, the way to "seduce" them is the same as for a…
/r/seduction11/02/14 11:46 PM
1

but after getting rejected once, You didn't really get rejected. She may have been legitimately busy. That said, if you feel like you got rejected then stop pursuing her. You can't get somebody back who rejected you by touching her. Just be nice and carefree.
/r/seduction11/02/14 10:27 PM
2

Ask her out, but ask her out in a way that 1) shows you are interested, and 2) makes it likely she will say yes.
/r/seduction11/02/14 10:16 PM
1

OP is right. If you go up to a girl and don't give her a full confident approach with your intentions completely known, she won't know how to react.
/r/seduction11/02/14 10:15 PM
0

You totally missed the point of OP's post. OP is exactly right. Anything other than a full-on approach comes off as creepy to girls. I was sitting in a MacDonald's once waiting on my food standing next to a really hot girl. Some guy came, picked up his order, and then looked her up and down, obviously checked her out. He then walked out. I laughed and turned to her and said "that guy totally just checked you out." She was like "yeah, I hate that. What am I supposed to do with that?" We talked ab…
/r/seduction11/02/14 10:13 PM
37

Here's the most important thing I have learned (and I plan on writing a blog post on this at some point): true happiness comes from pursuing something you are passionate about. Period. Nothing else. Not from money, not from cars, not from women, etc... Just doing something productive and exciting you can grow from. Weirdly, all the other stuff (money, women, etc...) comes when you are pursuing your passion. It also helpful to learn to disconnect your image of yourself from what other people thin…
/r/seduction11/02/14 10:06 PM
2

Try to get rejected. Your goal should be to just say something nice and then move on.
/r/seduction11/02/14 10:04 PM
1

I wonder if that also could be used as a technique of seduction: Framing yourself as a project. You would have to be cranky first. You would have to make the center of the relationship you first, your problems, etc... The woman has to invest in you first, if you just start off on the first date talking about your problems she will just next you.
/r/seduction11/02/14 10:03 PM
1

that's very poetic and true. If you just ask the girl to get you a tissue, it's just annoying. But if you convince her to actually do shit for you, it creates investment. I think that's part of the reason girls like guys that are "projects."
/r/seduction11/02/14 07:28 PM
1

BUT what I don't get is why you have to reach the magic number of 3 rejections before you can start serious approaches for this evening? If I don't promise myself 3 rejections I am afraid I will fall back in the mindset of approaching just to get laid. If I am like "I want to get rejection, but I will stay to talk to a girl if she's into me" then I'm back where I started. Also, when I go for the 3 rejections I go up to anybody and everybody, and those are usually not the girls I want to stick wi…
/r/seduction11/02/14 07:27 PM
1

It's not about impressing my friends at all. I genuinely don't give a fuck. Well it seems like you do because you can't act that way when your friends aren't around.
/r/seduction11/02/14 06:23 PM
2

I wonder if the Ben Franklin effect may not just be an option, but a requirement in some ways? I think it is. I think humans are just wired in a weird way to feel a connection with somebody after we do shit for them. There is a proven tendency just called the "just world" hypothesis which says that people naturally want the world to be "fair", so if they do something for a person they naturally expect that person to reciprocate. It may also be that evolution wired us to connect with other people…
/r/seduction11/02/14 06:22 PM
1

Don't focus on non-verbal shit. Say something. In fact, I would say your best bet is to show interest verbally but to show disinterest with your body language. Keep 'em guessing.
/r/seduction11/02/14 05:01 PM
1

Cuz you're not doing it right. IT depends on a lot of factors - you, the bar, the woman, etc... But generally its possible.
/r/seduction11/02/14 05:00 PM
2

Alcohol reduces your anxiety - that's why.
/r/seduction11/02/14 03:30 PM
1

Just make a move. Its normal. You think other guys aren't making moves on her? If you keep bullshitting she will move on.
/r/seduction11/02/14 03:25 PM
1

so when you are with your friends you are not really "not giving a fuck" but rather you are trying to impress your friends.
/r/seduction11/02/14 03:16 PM
1

"Ego" is one of those broad, vague words that doesn't really mean anything. You can't "lose" your ego. The best thing you can do is to disconnect your sense of worth in yourself from what other people think. Most people live on an insane roller coaster where if other people are nice to them and give them validation they feel great and if other people shit on them they feel like shit. You need to disconnect and judge yourself objectively. Are you improving everyday? Are you being a good person? A…
/r/seduction11/02/14 06:29 AM
2

I hate flakey people it doesn't want to make me hang out with you more if you keep canceling plans. It makes me think you're unreliable and playing games. Well its not PC to say that men and women are different, but some of these apply more to girls than to guys
/r/seduction11/02/14 05:43 AM
2

Looks like fun. Make sure you wear something very classy that stands out.
/r/seduction11/02/14 04:46 AM
15

I WAS RIGHT AGAIN MOTHERFUCKERS
/r/seduction11/02/14 04:45 AM
12

Here's a way to lower your expectations: a lot of girls are teases. Ask her if she has a boyfriend.
/r/seduction11/02/14 02:28 AM
2

are you being sarcastic? he's just having a regular conversation
/r/seduction10/02/14 11:14 PM
1

Your post has nothing to do with my post. My post is about approach anxiety, not "being yourself."
/r/seduction10/02/14 11:08 PM
14

This is a really good article, especially the point about investment.
/r/seduction10/02/14 10:19 PM
2

Girls hate rejection and will pre-emptively reject you if they think you might reject them. I wouldn't be surprised if she flaked on Wednesday, feeling insecure about it. Ok good point
/r/seduction10/02/14 10:02 PM
-2

I've got one. Tell her to clothes her eyes. Ask her what her favorite city is (hint: it's probably New York). Ask her her favorite building that city (hint: it's the Empire state Building). When she says the Empire State Building, say "oh, sounds like you're thinking of my dick."
/r/seduction10/02/14 09:44 PM
3

well if you personally are too emo to handle that situation then don't have her over
/r/seduction10/02/14 09:42 PM
1

she left without saying bye. I think that was just rude. T get over it. its your responsibility to take leadership. I´m still thinking of pursuing this girl at least for a couple more classes , maybe even ask her out , Maybe?? Maybe? Just ask her out. There is no "pursuit." Just ask her out.
/r/seduction10/02/14 09:34 PM
2

that's not your problem right now. don't worry about it. if she brings it up, be like "IDGAF"
/r/seduction10/02/14 09:26 PM
1

I'm thinking leaving a 5 day gap without texting at all seems unnatural, a bit awkward and can increase chance of flakes, any tips how to handle this? It won't.
/r/seduction10/02/14 09:16 PM
7

My issue with this is that its too much information to have in your head when you're talking to a girl. Other than the initial questions you're gonna forget all the other shit you're supposed to do. It's better if you just let the convo flow naturally. If you like LA, say you like LA. If you hate it, say you hate it. LOL I guess if you use my approach you don't need to pay dating coaches thousands of dollars.
/r/seduction10/02/14 09:15 PM
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