Tumblr Feminism

cuteman · 2012-07-09T01:40:05+00:00

The whole systematic denial of misandry in feminism seems pretty Misandric by their definitions of sexism.

a_weed_wizard · 2012-07-09T01:54:13+00:00

What power does the average man even have anyway? None. These power structures with male leaders certainly don't act on behalf of or in the interests of men as a group, either. They never have. So this idea that men are "the group in power" is bogus. If men were the group in power and acted in men's interests then we would see a vast majority of female homeless, imprisoned, etc. The reality that is that the lowest of the low positions in society are filled by almost entirely by men.

This is pure sophistry to attempt to deflect the fact that feminists are hypocrites who don't practice what they preach.

It can be argued that women have exploited men since the dawn of time. See reproductive success rates and see the fact that even in this so-called equal society, women are still reliant on resources forcefully extracted from men.

Demonspawn · 2012-07-09T02:14:13+00:00

Sexism = prejudice + power.

Women control 55% of the vote.

Therefore, men cannot be sexist.

2012-07-09T02:14:33+00:00

I love the "Physically" as if this is a tangible thing.

drinkthebleach · 2012-07-09T01:42:29+00:00

I need to be laughed out of rape centers because kings ruled kingdoms thousands of years ago, makes total sense.

Saerain · 2012-07-09T02:07:15+00:00

That's not even the real definition of sexism though, I had someone say something similar about racism, it's just made up bullshit that they somehow believe.

unplural · 2012-07-09T03:04:26+00:00

this is the exact same argument used to say people of color can't be racist

dakru · 2012-07-09T02:47:45+00:00

This is the all-or-nothing thinking that is behind the female victim fetish and vilification of men that's so important to feminism.

No, no, men are not half the population that happens to have a penis. Not at all. Men have power. Collectively, despite not being a collective or a hive-mind.

2012-07-09T13:26:18+00:00

A feminist implying women don't have power over men in any regard? Oh you!

Talk to me after you divorce someone or try to take custody of a child. Talk to me when one of your sisters cries rape against a man - even if she's lying. Talk to me when you have a son, and get to check a little box determining how his genitals are going to look and function for the rest of his life.

Women like this have their heads so far up their asses, it's no wonder nobody takes them seriously.

BattleBrother · 2012-07-09T09:35:31+00:00

Tumblr is a place for batshit insane LBGT-feminists.

Just stay away.

ignatiusloyola · 2012-07-09T04:23:50+00:00

That does adequately sum up their argument. The point that should be made is to reject that definition of "sexism" (it also applies to racism).

These words lose their meaning and effectiveness if they are only used as a way to transfer power from one group to another, rather than to identify and label poor behaviour. If it is simply a power grab definition, then it doesn't have significant meaning to be worthy of attention.

ABORTED_BABY_BUFFET · 2012-07-09T04:07:08+00:00

Sigh, oh tumblr. Why anyone takes anything on tumblr seriously just baffles me. The OP in the pic is more than likely in her early teens.

Kirkayak · 2012-07-09T08:39:26+00:00

This woman claims women have NO power, not even on the individual level.

Laughable. Next.

Silvercumulus · 2012-07-09T14:54:32+00:00

I'm a woman.

So, yeah. I'm just as sickened by this notion as I am by anyone who says that black people are entitled to (insert something here) because "they" were "enslaved" by "me (as a white person)."

Black people can be racist, and women can be sexist.

2012-07-09T14:18:51+00:00

People use this logic with race as well as gender, and it is widely accepted. People say whatever they want about Caucasian males, and the public almost always ignores it. I'm not suggesting that speech should be policed, but I do find the hate in these people’s hearts disappointing.

borderlinebadger · 2012-07-09T03:31:28+00:00

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Young_Zaphod · 2012-07-09T02:59:25+00:00

I distinctly recall seeing a message calling out a tumblr user for her male bashing hyper-feminist posts. The person responded (similar to this), and the comments were along the lines of "OMG I bet this is another one of those misogynistic pigs from Mens Rights on Reddit". Ugh.

iongantas · 2012-07-09T03:05:03+00:00

The respondent has a crap argument regardless of what variety of prejudice you're applying it to. It's a political word game.

ohgeronimo · 2012-07-09T08:33:24+00:00

It's a myth that women were historically far more oppressed than men. Women and men had different roles in society and whoever got out of line was punished, regardless of gender. A man who was supposed to go to war couldn't just use his "power" and refuse. The real power was always in the hands of a tiny percentage of the population and thus not representative for any gender.

MrStonedOne · 2012-07-09T05:09:44+00:00

As an mra, I always love it when I see links from here in /r/all. Given, this was link number 342, and I really need to find something else to do if im this far down in /r/all, but still; it was kinda nice to see.

Jisano · 2012-07-09T05:16:24+00:00

I've learned in my Sociology class that this is the real definition of sexism/racism/etc. Using power to oppress others based on your prejudice. Tbh, i find this definition to be ridiculous. I understand it, and I understand this Tumblrer's point of view, but it doesn't seem to actually help anything. We're all victims of society.

penikripa · 2012-07-09T01:32:20+00:00

*Feminism.

gnorwerauoy · 2012-07-09T04:37:44+00:00

This rhetoric of "privilege and power" and "historical and societal" reasons needs to stop. I'm white, I'm male, I'm straight. However, I'm an individual. I'm white, but I'm the son of immigrants who came here with practically nothing and had to learn a new language and culture. I'm a male, but I was taught to treat women with respect as equals, and never would I discriminate or generalize women.

I do not deserve mistreatment for being classified under an umbrella term like male or white. Because I and many others are not responsible for past wrongdoings.

This woman has been brainwashed and I feel sorry for her.

Amunium · 2012-07-09T07:45:21+00:00

Could someone explain to me what this power is, that these feminists perceive themselves as lacking?

Usually I hear things like the wage gap, and while I know it isn't even real, it doesn't apply as a general thing either, because even according to their biased statistics, not all men make more money than women in the same position. If this was the argument, they'd have to say that women can't be sexist to men who make more money, but they don't - they say all men.

So what is it? I'm not asking what power we actually have, but what power it is they think we have. I can't even see that.

therealxris · 2012-07-09T12:50:49+00:00

Christ.. the user account is "powerlesbian"

You're all being trolled, hard.

Mellowde · 2012-07-09T14:20:45+00:00

I thought this was a post in r/funny at first. I mean, seriously haha. WOW.

LoveMachine69000 · 2012-07-09T15:30:37+00:00

this literally hurts to read. jimmies are rustled.

Danny-Dreams · 2012-07-09T17:46:52+00:00

The more I read about Feminism the more it reminds me of religious fanaticism.

Jacksambuck · 2012-07-09T04:37:17+00:00

I took a look at her Tumblr and saw a lot of ridiculous posts, here are some of my favorites:

ANONYMOUS ASKED: i think you are amazing even tho you're white heheh.

i do what i can since the majority of my people are really embarrassing and awful

We all should thank this girl for her efforts. Thinly veiled racism on the asker's part as well.

all right, look, i’m done. cis men are privileged. get over it, cis men. white people are privileged. get over it, white people. straight people are privileged. get over it, straight people. stop trying to come to me with all these “but x, y, z,” because you just look stupid. being privileged doesn’t mean your life is perfect and flaw free and that nothing bad happens to you. it means that, at the end of the day, by societal and historic standards, you are better off than those you hold privilege over. it is OK and GOOD and IMPORTANT that you are AWARE of your privilege. the fact that you’re all up in arms over your privilege isn’t helping anyone. accept, check, and know your privilege, then and only then will you be able to even begin to even, just a little bit, just barely, understand what it means not to be privileged. now i’m going to go back to working on chianne’s 18th birthday present and all you self-loathing, whiny people are gonna leave me alone.

I like how "cis" is used in a disdainful way 2. I like how she called other people whiny. Pot, meet kettle. 3. She says that society says men/white people are better than all others, but it sounds like some self-loathing on her part.

ANONYMOUS ASKED: "all cis men are privileged.." How exactly?

simply by being male and cisgender.

Generalizations much?

And lastly, my favorite part is when she...

BOSSGRON ASKED: top 5 celebrities boobs, go go go

nina

beyonce

lea (i saw those boobs naked live and in person omg never forget)

kat (graham)

naya

...objectifies women!!

TexasWithADollarsign · 2012-07-09T05:59:00+00:00

Trayvon_R_R_Martin's awful comment -- which has been downvoted by members of this very subreddit -- was just picked up by powerlesbian as representative of "your neighborhood reddit MRA group." When she has to go and dredge the comments that aren't even shown by default, it goes to show how credible she really is.

Edit: She deleted her post. Wish I'd've kept a souvenir screenshot.

Edit²: Let me guess... the SRS trolls are upon us.

2012-07-09T06:40:56+00:00

The dumb is strong with this one.

2012-07-09T04:14:56+00:00

As though power is polarized.

Libertarian_Atheist · 2012-07-09T08:00:49+00:00

Fighting for shared interests can be a very positive thing. Though, there is always the danger of the utilization of "group thought and group victimization" in the effort toward shared interests. It seems to affect the least forthright of any group, those who wish not for equality or restitution but for an upper-hand themselves. Even if they understood their actions and words could lead to more abuse of either men or women, it would not matter to them, they are out for their own empowerment and benefit.

Those feminists who wish to strip men of all rights are of the exact vile mindset of those men who committed truculence against women in the past. The irony would be very sharp if it weren't for the fact that they are the exact same type of people as those abusive men and the ONLY thing they share in common with the average woman are the general features of their body.

They do not care about other women or their plight, they only pretend to for their own interests. If they genuinely cared they would be doing all they could to bring the sexes in closer alignment in terms of equality. They would be doing this globally, not just in rich Western countries. They would be working toward educating men one-on-one from a young age on up and trying to reach them personally to educate them on why what their father may have done to their mother was wrong. Many do, but not these women who try to spread hate and discontent by philosophizing simpleton-like and feeble minded vitriolic revisionism and redefinition.

Gender equality cannot come through divisive language of this kind, it can only come through closer ties and a better understanding of one another. Any men who are reading this, I implore you to not color your world and your understanding of women by these hate-mongers. That is what they want.

LoneRanger21 · 2012-07-09T11:57:31+00:00

So lemme get this straight.

I can be treated badly by someone who is different (female), because something my people (men) from the past have done? And that somehow the responsibility for other people's bad actions is somehow shifted onto my shoulders?

What the hell? Are they trying to turn Original Sin into a feminist argument?

MyWorkUsername2012 · 2012-07-09T12:55:31+00:00

This is basically an argument about how to define a word. First, I would say most people would agree on a definition that goes both ways regardless of gender. Second, who cares how she defines this word, if your being shitty your being shitty, I don't care if you think it's sexist or not. You don't think it's sexist, well fine, you're still shit.

2012-07-09T07:41:19+00:00

She claims women don't have power, yet her name is "powerlesbian"
Queen Elizabeth the II is the largest landowner in the world. Women are in no way a powerless gender.
She's not fighting for equality if shes going to use the word "sexism" incorrectly, on purpose, to explicitly silence victims of sexism themselves.

insanemetal187 · 2012-07-09T10:10:33+00:00

it's becoming clear to me that people don't want equality, they just want their turn.

alecbenzer · 2012-07-09T03:46:57+00:00

Ask her for a source for this definition? From wikipedia:

Sexism, also known as gender discrimination or sex discrimination, is defined as prejudice or discrimination based on sex

connekt2net · 2012-07-09T15:36:45+00:00

Even if you were sexist to males, we wouldn't give a shit. Maybe you women should stop having emotions.

CRASNY · 2012-07-09T16:18:04+00:00

hello i'm robert pattinson but you can call me kelsey. i'm married with a real biological child that just so happens to be a cat.

Yeah, I'll just go ahead and not take this entire person or their views on life and sexism seriously at all.

FreddyDeus · 2012-07-10T01:17:55+00:00

When she is hundreds of years old, then she can claim to be the victim of hundreds of years of sexism.

TheOnlyKarsh · 2012-07-09T11:29:22+00:00

My favourite bit is that her pic in the corner is just her in a bra. Classy.

accountabilityishard · 2012-07-09T05:59:20+00:00

It disgusts me to no end to read that bigoted vitriol, feminists like that are why I can NEVER reconcile with feminism.

mordicaii · 2012-07-09T01:50:36+00:00

Women are not in power

Truer words have never been spoken. /s

Unenjoyed · 2012-07-09T04:35:12+00:00

That lady seems to have found her happy place.

Scott2508 · 2012-07-09T09:22:43+00:00

kudos to the powerlesbian who acknowledges it .

2012-07-09T09:32:40+00:00

"I know you are but what am?"

2012-07-09T13:15:44+00:00

I love when people make up their own definitions to words. /s

Turbojelly · 2012-07-09T14:18:56+00:00

Anyone can be XXXist, it's about descriminating against someone because of their sex/looks etc.

eg.

"All YYY are ZZZ" is pretty much the standard XXXist comment.

amishbreakfast · 2012-07-09T14:29:13+00:00

From Merriam-Webster, Definition of SEXISM

1 : prejudice or discrimination based on sex; especially : discrimination against women 2 : behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex

Bold added because I was really surprised to see it there.

CRASNY · 2012-07-09T16:14:17+00:00

That's a complete fucking idiot right there. Sorry to be vulgar, but that's all it is.

DionysusIsRisen · 2012-07-09T17:28:53+00:00

How fortunate then that the definition of sexism is the one that suits you best.

stestephe · 2012-07-10T11:53:25+00:00

The heavily funded advertising against violence against women (only women) is based on the superstition expressed by one of VAWA’s founders, Barabara Hart: “our belief in the inherent non-violence of women.” http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2012/05/central-myth-of-misandry-inherent-non.html

Here are three collections of historical cases that serve to shatter the myth of “inherent non-violence.”

Acid Queens http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/search/label/Acid%20Queens

Stepmothers from Hell http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/search/label/Step-Mother%20from%20Hell

Murder-Coaching Moms http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2012/01/murder-coaching-moms.html

Because of this propaganda, our culture now treats female victims of women’s violence as second class victims, and boys and girls are second class victims as well. When an innocent man is attacked by a woman, the culture treats him as a third class victim, a crime victim who, according to cultural Marxist theory is not permitted by the culture to be seen as a crime victim, even when the perpetrator is captured and prosecuted.

NWOslave · 2012-07-09T17:03:31+00:00

The farce that women anywhere were ever oppressed is laughable. Men died as miners, blacksmiths, shipbuilders, ect, by the boatloads while women were safe and sound at home. Men must be the worse oppressors ever, they suffered far worse in every realm of society thoughout all of history.

In modern times there are less women in the west who work dirty dangerous jobs then there were 100 years ago. The ruse that women weren't allowed to work those jobs is just that, a ruse. They have that choice today, yet no women choose that. They do however get the jobs that command men to die in those dangerous jobs without having to work their way up. Modern women are handed jobs by the State that a man would have to risk his life and work to achieve. Men start at the bottom, women start at the top.

Aavagadrro · 2012-07-09T06:52:28+00:00

Oh, so they are taking a page from the theist handbook and just making words mean whatever they want them to mean, regardless of actual definition.

How quaint.

Kevinatorikablah · 2012-07-09T04:32:53+00:00

Her name is "Powerlesbian", What were you expecting?

Lasthcompany · 2012-07-09T03:13:25+00:00

I guess she hasn't noticed...

Female presedents/prime ministers/leaders in places OTHER than the USA...
Oprah
Female CEOs
Women leading/providing entire families in some countries

"Women not in power", my ass. So closed-minded.

iseetrolledpeople · 2012-07-09T05:26:06+00:00

And when I made a joke yesterday about women logic a girl said that it wasn't nice... hm.

I guess this is how being a racist works too, that's why nobody gets the against whites racism.

VirSaturnA · 2012-07-09T12:07:26+00:00

People are driving their brains around with huuuuuge blind spots these days.

LordOfGummies · 2012-07-09T12:43:19+00:00

This is by far the stupidest fucking thing I have read all morning.

Riverscr · 2012-07-09T14:02:26+00:00

ist definition

So I would assume from that definition of ist that a sexist is one who's beliefs and ways of behavior are based around sex. Power structures are not a part of sex, they are the result of a societies throughout history. They regard sexes differently according to their own beliefs which can be described as sexist (or whatever ism you like). This person responding here reads as though they took an introduction to feminist theory class and bought every word of it without considering that though relations exist in history which make her not wrong (men dominating women in prior power structures) there is no way to claim that this is the result of just sex.

OneWhoDoubts · 2012-07-09T16:17:27+00:00

women have boobs.. in my book that make us even.

Duskman · 2012-07-10T01:29:08+00:00

Also, black people cant be racist against white people and men cant be rape by women. Furthermore, men should have their rights taken from them in favor of women. /s

justsomeguyudontknow · 2012-07-10T03:02:46+00:00

Okay, this power+prejudice propaganda is getting really stale. I'm fed up with it.

cthulufunk · 2012-07-10T03:20:32+00:00

It's not "physically" possible? Her own words betray her.

2012-07-10T03:53:34+00:00

Sexism = Predjudice + power

So she's basically saying women have NO power, and are total slaves to the patriarchy.

ExpendableOne · 2012-07-10T04:22:23+00:00

Come back to me when women have dominated and exploited men for the last hundred year or so

Has this woman lived under a rock for her entire life? Women across the world, in virtually all cultures, have exploited and even dominated men in countless difference ways for a lot longer than just a few hundred years or so. Have women really not been exploiting men for power, protection, shelter, food, income, children and/or any other lucrative gains and services for most of history? Have women really not been dominating men in other ways through personal means, sexual means, social reinforcement, peer shaming and other forms of privilege and power? "Oppressors" wouldn't be the ones doing most, if not all, of the working, fighting and dying just to keep you safe and content.

damnfooldamn · 2012-07-09T02:01:49+00:00

Should probably have disguised the tumblr username, just saiyan'

hardwarequestions · 2012-07-09T08:47:46+00:00

This post is currently #200 of /all.

Forgotten_Son · 2012-07-09T01:29:17+00:00

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gnorwerauoy · 2012-07-09T06:48:29+00:00

Patriarchal religion is to blame for historical oppression. I think feminists should focus in on that. Modern feminism is sexist in that they oppress males (regardless of philosophical justification such as "it's ok for me to do x,y,z to you because you deserve it but if you do the same x,y,z to me OMG sexism!").

gqbrielle · 2012-07-09T10:35:49+00:00

misandry does real, but as a systematic form of oppression...not really EXCEPT IN SOME PLACES, like family court for instance, or domestic violence cases.

so, i can see the author in the screenshotted post's point, but i disagree, myself.

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tanalilt · 2012-07-09T13:16:22+00:00

It's amazing how people will take one post as the entire opinion of a group of people.

One feminist on Tumblr doesn't get it? Wow - they all must be sexist female pigs who hate men and think themselves far above all of us!

Not so. Don't let one person speak for a diverse group, especially if they are not appointed.

2012-07-09T04:44:41+00:00

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Title	Tumblr Feminism
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Date	July 9, 2012 1:23 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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