"Everybody dies alone" No shit, but a lot of men are spending their prime years alone

PurplePillDebate-ModTeam · 2024-04-17T16:58:30+00:00

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Nellylocheadbean · 2024-04-17T15:34:10+00:00

As long as ppl get together based on looks and feelings, it will always be like this.

I don’t think being average is enough to women because women don’t find the average man good looking enough. So that’s why men have to rely on other attributes/factors (income, height, resources, usefulness etc) that brings them above the average threshold.

Particular_Trade6308 · 2024-04-17T15:31:43+00:00

The world doesn’t care and nature doesn’t care. Throughout most of human history a good portion of the male population was killed in raids or war, and the women were carted off to be sex slaves. Consider yourself lucky that you weren’t drafted at 18 to fight to the death like the 100 generations of men before.

Dating market is amoral, market dynamics currently do not favor average guys, and that’s not changing short of a war or economic collapse; and in that scenario all the women will be hoarded by warlords anyway.

ToughingItOut82 · 2024-04-17T15:47:54+00:00

There was a recent thread defining a minimal viable woman as being non overweight, no kids and under 30. Basically “mvw” is equivalent to hvw and then average guys don’t understand why this is hard for them to get.

DarayRaven · 2024-04-17T16:40:13+00:00

The habit of telling single men to constantly "improve" implies there really is not enough to be an average bloke these days

That's the thing though

I never spend my 20s trying to improve myself, instead just wanted to experience as much as l can which was take as many risks as possible and just seeing what worked for me

Self-improvement is the biggest lie dating coaches have sold for the last 20+ yrs

berichorbeburied · 2024-04-17T16:51:01+00:00

The truth is. It’s not enough to be average.

You can either understand that

And

A. Try not to be average

Or

B. Continue being average

The other option is giving up.

But the most important thing is to understand the truth.

Once you understand the truth. Understand your options. And understand what to do to achieve your goals.

Then it’s up to your free will to choose the path that you want to walk

Whoreasaurus_Rex · 2024-04-17T15:38:17+00:00

So, what's your proposed solution?

gntlbastard · 2024-04-17T15:19:05+00:00

There are worse things in the world than being alone and also living and being alone doesn't equate to loneliness. In fact there is no shortage of married men who will tell you that it is entirely possible to be married, have kids and be lonely.

Crimson-Pilled · 2024-04-17T15:39:27+00:00

A. They're not attracted to the average man.

B. They understand men are spending their prime years alone, they just think those men deserve it.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-04-17T15:22:32+00:00

The problem is below average think it’s average and deserves above average or better.

If you aren’t getting what you want: do something about it.

That’s what men have always done.

Or don’t. The weakest of the heard can be trimmed off. Iron sharpens iron or it gets tossed aside.

_jay_fox_ · 2024-04-17T16:07:51+00:00

think about it for a second just how absurd it is. There are millions of eligible women out there and man guys can't get ONE (1) girlfriend. Not a threesome, just one girl to go out with them.

Reality is stranger than fiction!

Some of the top 10% of men are having actual threesomes, because women are just that desperate for them. Meanwhile the rest are starved or go without.

Women seem to prefer this – from their perspective it's a golden age in dating!

Also it's not just dating ... look at billionaires from privileged backgrounds buying up whole islands while many hard working professionals can barely afford to rent a small apartment.

Anyway at a certain point in life I just accepted that the world is absurd and went with it.

I'm not too alone, especially being closer to family and beginning to cultivate more friendships with men and even explore my gay / bisexual side a bit.

This is a time for men to experiment and try different lifestyles, not be confined to the narrow borders of yesterday's hetero masculinity.

TRTGymBro1 · 2024-04-17T15:42:59+00:00

I think a lot of men labor under the mistaken idea that women should like them as they are. Maybe that's what their moms told them when they were little. I don't know, but there is no real reason that should be true. Women are not obligated to like you as you are.

Almost every lonely man on the planet can work on specific problems to make himself more attractive, but the majority absolutely refuse to. They sabotage themselves. That's been my experience anyway.

Solondthewookiee · 2024-04-17T16:08:12+00:00

The habit of telling single men to constantly "improve" implies there really is not enough to be an average bloke these days.

The problem is that the people who need to hear this most continually interpret "average" as referring to physical appearance. The only improvement ever suggested by these men is going to the gym and plastic surgery and actively fight against even the most basic suggestions like "empathize with women."

because women say he must be lacking because he doesn't have the right career, the right education, the right social life, the right fit body, the right conversation skills, the right emotional intelligence...

The first half aren't really things women say, that's stuff dudes online say. The second half...I mean, yeah, those are things that people value in a relationship, romantic and platonic.

Imagine being an educated woman with an exciting career, great personality, and a bright future, only to be told the only thing that matters is your looks, age, and how many penises you've previously touched. In fact, you are so interchangeable that men will not only readily tell you that they just want to date anyone, but that you should feel grateful that so many men want to stick their dick in you with no regard as to whether you actually enjoy it.

Sharp_Engineering379 · 2024-04-17T15:26:59+00:00

is a symptom of what women want

Women don't want try-hards, so don't blame women for the dogshit advice men take from other men.

Environmental_Day558 · 2024-04-17T15:34:32+00:00

The habit of telling single men to constantly "improve" implies there really is not enough to be an average bloke these days.

Because it's not. Quite frankly average sucks.

MongoBobalossus · 2024-04-17T15:40:12+00:00

You’ve already admitted that you’ve decided to be an awful person, so why are you surprised that path has kept you alone?

Comeino · 2024-04-17T15:26:53+00:00

There is globally a 50 million surplus of men to women ratio. The rest is history.

thisdoesntworkyall · 2024-04-17T15:30:05+00:00

This may hurt a few people but it has to be said. The concept of improvement, by men or women, but let's focus on men to stay on topic should NOT be done solely to get laid or get a partner. Men should improve for themselves. Going to the gym, eating healthy, taking care of mental health is good. It is good for everyone. This is the hurt part. We are all primal animals deep inside, but stop putting vaginas on a pedestal. Stop living your life with the only focus on women. Improve yourself for you. Most women will not like most men. But that doesn't men men shouldn't stay stay healthy. Being healthy feels good, really!

Feeling alone must suck, it really must. But don't outsource companionship to women or girlfriends.

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Haunting-Run-5346 · 2024-04-17T16:02:01+00:00

let's do a critical thinking exercise. who do benefits from "alpha hustle and grind culture". really think about it. who benefits most from a guy spending his 20s/30s being riddled by anxiety as to why he is single

DapperDan1929 · 2024-04-17T16:03:59+00:00

All my adults assets ended up being liabilities lmao

FromAuntToNiece · 2024-04-17T16:12:12+00:00

Solo living is on the rise, but so is loneliness

KayRay1994 · 2024-04-17T15:50:53+00:00

my man just used emotional intelligence and “alpha hustle and grind culture” in the same point.

Also, hear me out… the least attractive thing someone can be is a self loathing whiner, “but i don’t do it in real life”, you don’t, but your overall body language and vibe probably carries the same self pity and disdain your posts project.

Cethlinnstooth · 2024-04-17T16:14:44+00:00

Then improve yourself for your own sake in ways that please you. Improve yourselves gladly and willing for you because you are worth it. ,And maybe you can pivot that one day to being pleasing to a woman who meets your standards. Or maybe not but at least you still get to be more pleasing to yourselves. You're going to live a long time in your own company whether you get a girlfriend or not.

Have a healthy body...for your own sake. Don't be a no friends Nigel...for your own sake. Have a decent job...for your own sake.

Oh...wait...you guys generally don't like yourselves enough to do that. And that's why you complain about having to improve at all. Because your continuing efforts aren't underwritten by a sense of it being worth it to improve yourselves just so you can enjoy the improved you

Sucks to be like that but I can't see what women are supposed to do about it...why should they like you better than you like yourself? Why should they have faith in you that you don't have in yourself? Why should they put up with a you that's probably never going to improve?

Go find the thing about yourself that is actionable that bothers you the most and fix it.

Just_Natural_9027 · 2024-04-17T15:36:50+00:00

If you can’t one girlfriend you are not average.

Conscious_Air_8675 · 2024-04-17T15:47:18+00:00

There’s a lot of girls out there but most aren’t really desirable.

Jaded_Interaction162 · 2024-04-17T15:48:52+00:00

I think old, bitter, divorced guys are a lot worse off than young guys who are still healthy. Most guys don't have a lot of status or money, a lot of people have shit credit, and might even have a bankruptcy or two. Probably some undiagnosed health problem he doesn't go to the doctor for. Possibly an alcoholic.

Siliconmage76 · 2024-04-17T16:40:07+00:00

33% of men are going to have to learn that they are doomed to have 0-2 sex partners and loooing stretches of celibacy between those partners.

Someone has to make up the left side of the Bell Curve. I'd say this sub has a fair number of them.

januaryphilosopher · 2024-04-17T15:46:28+00:00

They certainly can get a girlfriend. Just hit up a homeless shelter or retirement home. They can't get a girlfriend they want though and that's their choice. Most of them will not only date multiple people but get married anyway.

Safinated · 2024-04-17T15:41:18+00:00

So? You can’t make people be with people if they don’t want to

And alone doesn’t mean lonely or sexless

Also, judging by how much work, nagging, frivolity, sacrifice, money and annoyance women are, sounds like most men are happier with servants, robots, porn, games and bros

Perfect-Resist5478 · 2024-04-17T16:43:33+00:00

Your premise is flawed. So many guys on here say “all I want is a girlfriend” but when you get into the nitty gritty they start making stipulations. “All I want is a girlfriend” becomes - who’s not fat - who’s my looksmatch - who doesn’t have kids - who doesn’t have a high N - who doesn’t post a lot on social media - who doesn’t have debt - who’s not a boss bitch - who will have lots of sex with me - who will lust after me all the time - who will have all the kinds of sex with me that she had with her ex

So you w just want a girlfriend. You want a very specific kind of girlfriend, and I’m not saying you shouldn’t want these things… but these things make a woman more desirable and more desirable women are more desirable. In order to get a more desirable woman, you have to be more desirable to her

Clementinequeen95 · 2024-04-17T16:06:07+00:00

So you’re blaming all women because none of them want you? Maybe you should do some self reflection dude. Y’all put women on these pedestals and act like it’s all you live for.

dicklaurent97 · 2024-04-17T16:26:38+00:00

I swear you all want an arranged marriage society where no one has a choice.

arcticshqip · 2024-04-17T15:37:05+00:00

They wouldn't be alone if they lowered their standards.

MisterFunnyShoes · 2024-04-17T15:21:23+00:00

Hookers exist

honeybooboo50 · 2024-04-17T15:37:58+00:00

I lost you at the threesome

EulenWatcher · 2024-04-17T15:58:02+00:00

Most men in their 30s date. The youngsters seem to struggle and I'd guess the biggest contributors are social medias, isolation and all nice and lonely ways to spend your time in confinement of your own room. People are far less social than we used to be and it creates unnecessarily problems both with dating and with making friends. Which sucks, but it won't be resolved on its own - you have to push against it and change the way you live. If you don't want to, it's a valid choice as well, but most likely it won't lead to any changes.

DapperDan1929 · 2024-04-17T16:03:15+00:00

I went to a baseball game recently. I didn’t approach any women but not one out of the thousands approached me. Lol. Kinda absurd when they all don’t actually get to see you

jamest0001 · 2024-04-17T16:07:32+00:00

They can get one - it’s just they benefit emotionally from playing the victim usually due to the anxiety trauma of male bullying. It is self sabotaging to please bully - the reward is less anxiety. They prefer depression to anxiety. Though they say they want a gf - really there is less anxiety from playing the victim so they actually prefer not having a gf despite what they say.

Title	"Everybody dies alone" No shit, but a lot of men are spending their prime years alone
Author	HardTimes4Vampires
Upvotes	77
Comments	145
Date	April 17, 2024 3:17 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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