LGBTQ, Feminist, and Body Positivity movements should be men's greatest allies.

The issues raised by Red Pill and RP adjacent members of this forum break down into the following issues.

We live in a shallow, superficial society where men are not judged by the content of their character, but by the extent to which they fit a certain mould of masculinity.

This mould is based around your appearance, your financial status, and your 'aggression' (being a "strong" man who takes what he wants, usually treating women and others poorly).

This means that only a small percentile (~20%) of men get all of the attention, because they align with women's unreasonably high aspirations for a partner, whereas the average man is either doomed to be overlooked or become a betabuxx.

While some of these notions are exaggerated, there is some truth to the idea that men who do not fit the mould will struggle to find a relationship. But for the sake of this argument, let's take all of these assumptions at face value.

The only practical answer to this problem is to deconstruct that conception of masculinity and traditional gender roles in general. Because it's those fixed conceptions that lead to men's struggles.

In this case, LGBTQ, feminist and body positivity movements should be men's greatest allies. They are directly engaged in tackling conceptions of gender. They have also had great success in changing the way women and trans people are represented in the media: film, games etc. They also offer alternative representations of masculinity that challenge the status quo.

By contrast, it is Red Pill and RP adjacent influencers who reinforce the definition of masculinity that disenfranchises men who don't fit it's mould. These groups are also often diametrically opposed to feminism, LGBTQ etc. movements. They mock body positivity while simultaneously complaining about things like lookism or gender-fluid figures like Sam Smith.

It is not "women" or progressives who are perpetuating unreasonable standards of masculinity. It's the media, influencers and men themselves. Attacking women as shallow or superficial does nothing to solve the problem, as it does nothing to change the portrayal of men in the media, which shapes our perceptions to begin with.

Men should be directing their attacks on the media, including the manosphere, with a focus on challenging their definition and representation of the "masculine". They should be allying with LGBTQ, feminist and body positivity movements in this cause.

Changing the representation of men is the only way men's liberation can be achieved. Attacking women and progressives undoes those efforts and compounds the problem. In fact, it's destroying the relationship with groups that should be men's greatest allies.