Sex is not that good

coolwords · 2015-04-12T21:23:10+00:00

I fully agree. Yes, many here will probably end up going on the defensive as you predicted, but if you can get past that initial reaction and think about what this man is saying, you will know it to be true.

Sex is highly overrated. More often than not, it is not the ultimate experience society makes it out to be; at least not for (and with) the vast majority of people.

Once you've unplugged from the brainwashing which inflates the perceived value of sex, turning it into a true value proposition then becomes an issue of;

a. Improving the quality of sex you're having, and

b. Reducing the investment you need to put in to get it.

Both of which are mostly accomplished by improving yourself. So while many of the men reading this may not end up agreeing with (or dare I say, realizing) what you are saying, TRP ends up putting them on the right path to fulfillment regardless.

TheFriendWithin · 2015-04-12T22:08:36+00:00

Precisely.

People preach 'dont put women on pedestals', but they continue to place sex on a pedestal. That's the same thing.

"sex is a lot more exciting on the screen and between the pages, than between the sheets"

EDIT: Misquoted

moodyprism · 2015-04-12T21:19:11+00:00

I am about to say something that goes against TRP philosophy and will probably get me downvoted to oblivion, but I accept my fate.

To have really great mind blowing sex you have to have an emotional connection. If you're out there being a player having ONSs you're not going to experience this. I'm not even saying this is exclusive to monogamy, you can very well have an emotional connection with your plates. All I am saying is the barrier between mediocre sex and mind blowingly great sex is psychological, not physiological. You have to be emotionally invested in someone to truly have awesome sex.

Donald_Fuck · 2015-04-13T00:15:29+00:00

It's the acceptance and intimacy that I sometimes crave that comes with sex.

poptart_fiend · 2015-04-13T00:36:10+00:00

Yup. Mainstream media exaggerates the fuck out of sex to sell, well, everything. Movies, TV, advertising, nightlife, fashion are almost entirely based on sex. It's a marketing ploy to get you into an excited/stimulated state so you pay attention and then associate the product with increasing your chances of procreating, of feeling love, acceptance, etc.

In countries that aren't so brainwashed by advertising and consumerism, the female breast actually isn't considered sexual and is openly shown. This was even the case in France (the breast was only sexualized during sex - female nudity was extremely common at all beaches etc) until American type advertising became more common in the past couple decades. Now all the women are covering up.

Become successful and sex will be there when you want it. Becoming obsessed with it is, as OP said, is actually blue pill and plays right into the system.

amotg · 2015-04-13T05:04:39+00:00

Here is my two cents: Sex to men is like diamonds to women.

Over the last century, the company De Beers has manufactured demand for diamonds. In reality, diamonds are everywhere. They are incredibly common. But, this one company (De Beers) has a monopoly over all of the diamond sources. It ran an advertising campaign long ago which said that a man should spend a few months of income on an engagement ring. Since then, women have wanted diamonds before marriage and diamonds have turned into something that give women immense social value.

Likewise, there is a manufactured demand for sex. Just like diamonds, sex is everywhere. Women are everywhere. Pussy is abundant. But women have a monopoly over it and it has screwed up the supply and demand. Sure, men on a very basic level want sex, but it is not nearly as valuable or worthwhile as it is being sold as.

TheNarrowRoad · 2015-04-13T08:27:38+00:00

the act of sex is not the best feeling, but sex is about power. Being the kind of guy who girls will fuck willingly is a great feeling

medi3val · 2015-04-13T01:52:55+00:00

I feel the same as you OP. After my divorce I became a man-whore and went from 5 partners to somewhere north of 30 in 2 years. I lost count. These days It's just not worth the effort. It's really not that great, and I am especially tired of the obligatory bar scene that goes along with the tail chasing. I know that if I realllllly want some ass, I can generally get it, but seriously.. it's not all that much better than my hand, and my hand sure is quieter.

SlickThroatButter · 2015-04-13T02:44:15+00:00

Winston, why is my carriage always surrounded by filthy beggars asking for bread?

Well, master, I imagine that they don't come across bread very often.

How absurd! Bread isn't that special!

wantonton · 2015-04-12T21:52:53+00:00

You're right, sex, in and of itself, is not that good.

Having a girl get off because you're dominating her; that shit's phenomenal.

smokingmonkey420 · 2015-04-12T23:20:22+00:00

I think the defining factor of the BP fantasy is not the sex but the idea of "falling in love." Sex is supposed to go hand in hand with this concept but it's the relationship that people desire most. As much as we like to poke fun at the BP mindset, I'm sure a lot of us wouldn't mind if it actually was reality.

If I've learned anything in life, it is that good things rarely come easy. Sex is easy to come by. It feels good and with the invention of contraceptives and abortion is relatively consequence free. Not to mention our cultures insistence that life is just one big party so nobody will judge.

A committed, worthwhile relationship takes loyalty and discipline. It requires you that you share values and know your roles in the relationship. It requires compromise in understanding that your part of something bigger than yourself -- your children.

That's where our primal instincts take us. That's where the focus should be in a healthy society.

PaperbackParrot · 2015-04-12T22:41:17+00:00

"Also, consider that culture drugs us into believing that sex is the greatest human experience in order to make you a slave to women."

The two big ideas I take from your article are this one, as well as that of the ego that accompanies trying to get laid and be the "baddest alpha" you can be. Both of these would be great follow-up posts for you or anyone who knows what they are talking about.

Good Post.

scapeity · 2015-04-13T06:36:19+00:00

I had... a very RP grandfather. He was strange as hell, but RP.

He told me, at 15 years old... that if before going out with a girl, you rub one out, and still want to be around her, thats one thing...

but if you rub one out and want to cancel the date, cancel it.

JetteAuLoinTRP · 2015-04-13T08:49:46+00:00

He who loves fame considers another man's activity to be his own good; and he who loves pleasure, his own sensations; but he who has understanding, considers his own acts to be his own good.

- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, Book Six

Yeah. Sex isn't that great. And a man shouldn't find it's happiness in pleasures, but in the knowledge that, throughout his life, he just does what is right. And that's the only thing that will truely satisfy you.

jedlucid · 2015-04-13T12:08:13+00:00

i only have sex to masturbate to it later anyways.

cariboo_j · 2015-04-12T22:04:28+00:00

*sex with a condom is not that good

T_H_E_T_R_U_T_H · 2015-04-13T01:15:53+00:00

I agree. I had a long dry spell for awhile. Had a girl I was seeing, but work and classes started ramping up and I simply didn't have time. Once all of that petered out I found myself struggling to find a girl.

But I did find one. And we had sex. It was fun, but I found myself wondering why I was dwelling so hard on it for such a long time.

Then again, I'm more than likely going to end up GMOW. It suits me better being the rugged individualist I am.

Stythe · 2015-04-13T02:42:08+00:00

The best sex is when I feel the most open which is when I have the best connection. I have that when I meet someone who matches my values and fits my dynamic. That's when I have sex. Otherwise, I can use my hand, hit all my sweet spots and finish in 5 minutes, then get back to whatever I was doing.

Sex for many people is a drug.

BowlOfCandy · 2015-04-13T03:43:46+00:00

Welcome to abundance mentality. The quest for pussy is like the tomato sauce that you let simmer in the pot. You can always open a jar of Ragu, but slow cooking that homemade goodness is always worth the wait.

changshuaidiao · 2015-04-13T00:32:36+00:00

Gimme a six that swallows over an eight that spits any day.

UlyssesElias · 2015-04-13T07:29:11+00:00

I LOVE this post because it is so honest & human. Thank you for being man enough to SAY IT! Sex is sometimes/often DISAPPOINTING

AND I also love that you anticipated that a few blog-cloggers would post shit saying that sex is always great for them blah blah because they are such thundercocks and their chicks are such thundercunts.

It's true that sex is sometimes pretty fraught and sometimes wonderful and oftentimes totally shit.

Isn't sex allowed to be sometimes okay, sometimes blah, sometimes a chore, sometime great, sometimes terrific and very, very occasionally special and exhilarating and astonishing?

Of course it is.

And ---- I can't help but supposing its just as thrilling and disappointing for gay guys. hetero girls and gay girls.

Hmmm jut sayin'

[deleted] · 2015-04-13T13:40:16+00:00

I agree, but with one caveat - sex isn't that great or important if you have true abundance. If you're not getting sex on a regular basis, then it is very important. Not just the actual jizzle skeet skeet feels, but the after effects on your stress levels and psyche. If you're not getting regular sex, it's a deficiency of the primal order. If you are, it's just one of the things you enjoy doing.

richardnorth · 2015-04-13T16:31:11+00:00

The value of sex is artificially inflated to support women's bargaining position when it comes to getting a man to marry her.

It absolutely is overrated.

occupythekitchen · 2015-04-13T00:47:48+00:00

I agree with you and furthermore i think women need it to be a high value commodity. Imagine if men started thinking sex is nice not great. All of a sudden the advantage women have for having sex at any time they want loses its value. They aren't cool getting lots of sex simply sluts abusing males sexuality, no more shaming saying "oh you just cant get laid" and other to go phrases they use.

I think this is an interesting point, because men are often victims and exploited by their own sexuality and then are criticized if she doesn't like it. It can be for some people lose lose and today we lose that soul sharing experience because we simply can't trust a modern woman anymore. Sex is being devalued it is no longer at an all time high as it used to be. The spiritual experience has faded and in turn it has become more like an exercise than something meaningful.

[deleted] · 2015-04-12T22:59:12+00:00

they should be wonderful decorations, but the core is what you build for yourself

Couldn't agree more. We need to be striving to build something of our own as men. To do something important. To be remembered. Women and sex are great, but it will take a back seat if you're on your way to something great.

Ironically, that'll only make you that much more attractive.

Seems to me you're on the right path.

RAGING_ERECTION · 2015-04-13T11:03:48+00:00

Never compromise your values just to get some pussy.

A while ago I was out with some friends at a club. I met a girl, 7/10, and immediately I start getting red flags from her. I like to think I'm a good judge of someone's character and can read people well but something about this chick was just completely off. Crazy vibes.

After making out for a while she invites me back to her place. At this point I had had my share of crazy girls and I couldn't be bothered dealing with another. I also didn't want to abandon my friends who I promised I'd hang with. So I turned her down.

You should have seen her face. Girls do not get rejected often (especially for sex) so it's pretty funny to watch her basically have a tantrum and scream at me in the middle of the club, which she got thrown out from. Guess I was right about the crazy vibe.

Ezreal3 · 2015-04-13T07:14:40+00:00

Have you ever had sex on drugs?

BMW1M · 2015-04-13T02:47:11+00:00

Yeah I have some good sex, but it doesn't even compare to some good cocaine. However you feel terrible after the cocaine wears off, so maybe it doesn't count.

roflzaur · 2015-04-13T02:59:29+00:00

Sex with a virgin is 100000x better than having sex with a slut. She was 100000x harder to get and 100000x tighter.

I almost died at 17 when I lost control on a mountain road racing my car. My thought before I crashed was that I was going to die a virgin.

I almost died doing the same shit again when I was 21(not a virgin) and my only thought before I hit a tree was I didn't contribute enough to society according to my own goals.

I agree, sex is overrated. Pursue your goals, not women. Women will pursue you when you pursue your goals.

MidlifeAwakening · 2015-04-13T07:08:17+00:00

Had very good quality sex with my wife on Friday night (got married long before I found TRP). I then went for an off road bike ride with my young son on Saturday morning, the bike ride was far more satisfying.

Bellum00 · 2015-04-13T08:09:10+00:00

I have the feeling my body distinguishes between women, and only releases (bonding) chemicals when the woman is of sufficient LTR value.

Sex without a crush is just not worth it. Back in my anger phase, I would just continue the hunt until the mark was down to fuck, then put up last minute resistance and exit the scene because I already got the confirmation I wanted.

Sex with your crush can be absolutely amazing. Probably because your mind gets flooded with hormones.

Soarinc · 2015-04-13T07:26:56+00:00

I gotta say that as a recreational fisherman, I had fished for years and never caught a fish bigger than 1.5 pounds. My brother once caught a 5 pound bass and I was envious for about 2 years (granted i was 8-9 years old) and then fast forward to my late 20's when I had not gone fishing for over a decade and just through sheer, newbie luck caught a 60 pound fish on a public fishing pier, it overwhelmed me and it was word-for-word the exact description which you said sex IS NOT but only because I was never expecting to catch that monster fish!

the earth moves, thunder lightning and your whole body is trembling with adrenaline like you just hit a grand slam on game 7 of the world series!!

I think each person has their passion and they just gotta find it. If they have no interests, no hobbies, no recreational activities, then "sex" is sorta like the default, backup option. I agree that sex is over-rated ESPECIALLY if you have watched porn before ever getting laid. There's no way sex can ever be as fun as that fictitious representation of it portrays.

To some people, sex is freedom, it is "scoring" or validation by women, etc...

To most people sex is just sex, and it's definitely one of the most fun things to do but it's also over-hyped and I go through like a 5-minute dysphoria afterward when it's with a new girl or someone I regret hooking up with. Also worth noting, Post-coital tristesse (PCT) is a feeling of melancholy after sexual intercourse and might occur in some men

starvinmarvin30 · 2015-04-13T08:14:51+00:00

TRP preaches "take the pussy off the pedestal" which can also mean sex. Once you are no longer a mental slave to sex, the "pussy" will never have power over you again. Only then will you truly be free.

[deleted] · 2015-04-13T09:03:25+00:00

Agreed completely. I was thinking about writing something like that, but you beat me to it. My thoughts exactly. Sex is good, but it isn't the greatest thing in life, even though gynocentric society wants you to think it is (to artificially inflate the value of women to men, because they have no self-value, only the value that men see in them).

obnel · 2015-04-13T09:11:14+00:00

Very well put and something that I think many men feel, deep down inside. I myself have always thought this and said it too. The idea that sex is the most important, most defining thing about a man is deeply ingrained into the psyche of western men. It's one of those things that are almost taboo and heretical to disagree with.

theoctopuss · 2015-04-13T11:33:41+00:00

I learned this in college. I noticed that some of my less successful friends from high school would do anything for some pussy, even with a busted 5 or 6. By this time I had been with ~10 girls, with lots of experience (a few were LTRs) and just didn't get it.

Yeah, it feels good to bust a nut, but it doesn't feel good enough to spend hundreds of dollars on food, gas, booze, or other drugs.

Sir_Shitlord_focker · 2015-04-13T02:10:11+00:00

It's the condom, I never understood what the big deal was about sex before I tried without a condom... no joke.

HelloJapan1 · 2015-04-12T22:12:15+00:00

sex is fun but so over rated and over hyped by TV and the media. You shouldnt watch porn either or that will desensitise you to feeling numb over the real thing.

aguy01 · 2015-04-12T23:31:00+00:00

I think a man's testosterone level has a lot to do with how worth it sex is.

Lt_Muffintoes · 2015-04-12T22:20:46+00:00

consider that culture drugs us into believing that sex is the greatest human experience in order to make you a slave to women

Not culture, evolution. You're only here, because someone made the financially-unsound decision to reproduce.

Although you might argue that the decline of the West has encouraged hedonistic overindulgence in all drugs, including sex.

CherryPickTheGirls · 2015-04-13T01:38:32+00:00

OP I agree 200%.

But once you've had some really really really really really.....really good pussy...

Opinions change.

StyleandSpeed · 2015-04-13T01:14:11+00:00

Exactly. On top of that, you have to deal with constant shit tests and jump through other various hoops of fire just to feel half hour worth of pleasure on your cock. Its a biological need that we need to overcome.

-Quotidian · 2015-04-13T03:41:14+00:00

A journey is simply a series of steps, but the first step is not always simple. If someone looking to unplug were to read something like this first, they might not be so motivated to improve themselves.

But it needs to be said. The Red Pill is bitter medicine, but the best kinds tend to be and this is no different. This needs to be discussed more.

Histograms · 2015-04-13T03:46:03+00:00

Yeah, I think this is a pretty valid assessment and society, through media or peer pressure, loves to make sex look like an end goal. As we know the feminine imperative is to get men to pursue women so they have all the options. So sex on the pedestal is absolutely necessary to keep their beta-provider fed ponzi scheme going; and to artificially bump up the value of sex.

"Sex is not that good" is a lesser stated part of abundance mentality - not only should you have plenty of options in women, you demonstrate your time is valuable by having an interesting life with lots of other fun things you could be doing instead. A nice post OP, it's good to muse on that subtle variation on a common TRP theme.

RPthrowaway123 · 2015-04-13T13:07:28+00:00

Sex is pretty good, but it's not that good. The value of sex has became way over-inflated these days, to the point where a man without pussy is considered basically worthless no matter what else he has going for him. Women have made it this way, ironically, by being sluts but only for that top 20%. This makes the other 80% "worthless" until these women decide to settle (in their minds) for the beta. Betas eat it up because they've been considered worthless for so long. It's humiliating.

I've had women actually get angry at me for not wanting to have with them. They're convinced that sex is the end-all, be-all but they couldn't be further from the truth. Sex is nice, but it's not worth the price they're charging.

Doomsday_ · 2015-04-13T01:40:09+00:00

Sex is not worth having you[r] time and spirit sucked out of you.

Quite true. And this is why it's important to have high standards and expectations of the women you allow into your life. Train them well and make them work hard to please you, and they can provide much more than just sex.

krustytheclown2 · 2015-04-12T22:06:51+00:00

Try anal sex without a condom (a viable option for LTRs tho). There is nothing better than that.

HV123 · 2015-04-13T13:08:58+00:00

Sex is like fast food. You really want it then you're left ultimately unfullfilled.

bluedrygrass · 2015-04-13T13:45:03+00:00

"Also, consider that culture drugs us into believing that sex is the greatest human experience in order to make you a slave to women. "

This aspect should be considered more, here on trp.

_xen · 2015-04-13T17:24:26+00:00

I have a great tip for attracting girls: seem like you do lots of drugs all the time, doesn't matter if you actually do. The few times I experimented, the girls were attracted to me like moths to light. Also mention to them how you're drunk all the time and mention how you break traffic laws.

tuxidomasx · 2015-04-13T18:46:36+00:00

Sex is good in the context of meeting a need... because every 2-3 days I feel a strong masculine urge to ejaculate, and sex is BY FAR the best (most enjoyable and satisfying) way to get that.

Marathon sex on drugs tho... that really is the best feeling I've ever felt. pop a molly and a tab and fuck an 8+ raw for a few hours and tell me i'm lying. Next level: marathon threesome candyflip.

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babayega · 2015-04-14T21:38:10+00:00

Something that I've been realizing myself but you put it in words much better, thanks.

kazaul · 2015-04-16T01:50:14+00:00

Seems to me different men really do have different tastes for various reasons. Red Pill doesn't seem to have made much of a conscious effort to formalize this yet, instead repeating the old mantra of 'all men want sex'.

While it seems true on the surface, I'm starting to think the truer version is 'all men want to know they have the ability to get sex when they want it'.

unknowncitzen · 2015-04-13T05:18:55+00:00

I agree with OP, sex by itself is pretty fucken boring so much so you can have the same result by using a Flesh light.

What makes sex fantastic is all the mind games (sexual anticipation , kino in public, wispering filthy things your going to do to her, etc.) and having a primal connection with the women you are fucking, once you have had that everything else is "meh.. I could have done that with my hand".

I have always been like this, if the woman and I aren't emotionally connected in a primal dominant (me)/submissive (her) way then my cock stays soft and my time investment is zero.

This is why I don't go in for ONS, but prefer FWB.

the99percent1 · 2015-04-13T07:08:50+00:00

Sex is good, with a girl who desires you.. otherwise, walk away. If the girl isn't charming and making less effort, I walk away. Simple.

Like you say, time is of essence. A man can accomplish a great many things if every second of every minute is filled with purposeful action.

When you are focused and driven in your career, hobbies and social life, you don't really have time to think of how and where your next lay will come from. It doesn't bother me one bit. Life is too short, enjoy the ride for what it is.

zuk1 · 2015-04-13T07:30:09+00:00

the highest physical, spiritual, emotional experience

Well obviously that's hippy nonsense.

But sex is pretty fucking good with the right person. I've had some pretty shattering orgasms that have made me feel high all night.

And also, as someone else said. Drugs. Sex on stimulants is ridiculous...

TBH thinking about that I would have to agree that sober sex isn't that great, which is quite sad really.

flexiblehold · 2015-04-13T13:44:23+00:00

We've all had anywhere from 2,000-5,000 orgasms to pornography by the time we're in our 30s -- let's not overlook the effect this must have on our enjoyment of actual, dirty, smelly sex.

squatch1968 · 2015-04-13T00:09:37+00:00

I have been with one woman for 3 decades and thus understand that sex is not always electric. However, having led very difficult life for a myriad of reasons, I am convinced that it is the one thing that is still pretty damn good even when not so electric--not sure I could have made it without it ... just sayin'.

vengefully_yours · 2015-04-13T02:40:28+00:00

I need to clean the pipes from time to time, having a girl take care of it for me is enjoyable. I have other shit I enjoy more, even if it takes less time, like drag racing.

MarinTaranu · 2015-04-13T03:32:29+00:00

Sex SHOULD be mundane and available on request. It is a primordial need of all living things, no matter how you try to explain it away. However, society builds artificial constructs to keep this powerful force in check.

SilentForTooLong · 2015-04-13T05:08:31+00:00

Yeah, sex isn't guaranteed to be great... but that strikes me as a side effect of shallow sex.

People don't believe me because this is the Internet, but I live a spectacular life filled with lots of cool things.

I can't think of anything more powerful and intense than having sex with the now deceased woman of my dreams, except maybe kissing her, and that got to be so intense that I actually blacked out from it.

People keep spitting out things like working your dream job, or stepping into your own house, or whatever. Well, not for me. I keep making goals, and attaining them, but my only thought I usually have when I get to my destinations is "this would have been immensely more fantastic if she were here with me."

Even just generally, having a woman to share your experiences with, and to go home and fuck after something incredible makes life far, far sweeter.

I don't know. Maybe I have an unhealthy love of female anatomy? But to me there doesn't seem to be much of anything greater than being alone with a beautiful naked woman at the end of a day of sharing your life with her.

mk_opc · 2015-04-12T22:27:41+00:00

I'm sorry... what?

Laying down in bed and having a girl slowwwwly work you to orgasm properly is one of the most satisfying experience of life. Period.

I think that sex can be bad, but for the most part it is fantastic and has the potential to be mindblowing.

There is a famous quote that says something like "people convince themselves that they don't like grapes when the vines are too high to reach" ... take from that what you will.

Echelon64 · 2015-04-13T00:22:07+00:00

Sex is not that good

Well, yeah, well okay I see your point. I personally feel more awesome during the hunt so I can see where you are coming from.

tif2shuz · 2015-04-13T04:46:05+00:00

Welcome to the women's thoughts on sex.

SnoopKittyCat · 2015-04-13T07:48:05+00:00

When you have it, sex is often bland and can be nearly a chore, but when you don't have it, it become your main obsession and the subject of all your thoughts and drives your life.

DoobleXL · 2015-04-13T12:25:19+00:00

This is a great post. It's very true. By itself sex is literally just putting your dick in a wet hole. That's it and that's all. Sure it feels good, but making it the point of your life is like if you made eating Oreos the point of your life. Ideally, it should be just a part of a more well-rounded life.

Sex gets its power from the male ego. We don't want sex for the physical pleasure of it, but from the feeling we get from conquering another woman. That's why if we don't really like the girl, we lose interest after we fuck her once. Most guys who spend their lives trying to fuck different girls suffer from feelings of inferiority that they are trying to "fix" with fucking different girls. Whenever a girl acts like a bitch to them, they see that as a challenge to rise up and fuck more girls.

Society takes advantage of this impulse in men and makes them think that sex and conquering women is the peak of happiness to control them. A man distracted from his mission and only interested in sex is much less likely to challenge the power structure than a man who knows what he wants and isn't addicted to any fleeting pleasures.

ThirdUnderstudy · 2015-04-12T23:03:40+00:00

It's not always amazing. With a condom I don't always get off. But it tops everything else; I haven't ever gone away thinking "I wish I had been doing ___ instead."

snakeob · 2015-04-13T04:03:53+00:00

Sex is awesome. I love fucking.

DoctorWelch · 2015-04-13T06:47:47+00:00

I definitely agree. There have been plenty of times where I went out, had fun, got drunk, took a girl back to my/her dorm/apartment only to end up fucking her for an hour or having my dick sucked for upwards of 30 min and not even cumming because 1. whiskey dick of course, but 2. it also just wasn't that good and it got boring after the initial excitement.

Sometimes the whole push and pull of the game can be more exciting than the actual sex. Not only that, but I have had more fun just going out with friends and dancing my ass off at the club because I don't give a fuck than I've had actually fucking a chick at the end of the night.

Don't get me wrong, sex is fucking awesome sometimes, and in a LTR sex can really be emotional and awesome if you have a RP relationship. But still, sex is definitely put on a pedestal by those who haven't had it.

Sex is like Pizza. Even the shittiest pizza is still pizza so I'll fuckin eat it cause its my favorite food, but there are still plenty of foods better than shit pizza.

loin_fruit · 2015-04-13T03:26:10+00:00

I got oneitis for a plate of mine a bit ago and one of the things that I started to realize how crazy it was too get so worked up over someone is that it's dumb. I realized it's just sex. Think about it. The only reason that you are craving this woman so bad is because of sex and the sex chemicals that are released during and after you fuck.

That's it. That's all that's holding you down.

bitches_be_crazy86 · 2015-04-13T05:04:31+00:00

Well sex is important because we are preconditioned to reproduce. Sex isn't the real end goal but reproduction is. Sure we find sex enjoyable because it leads (or used to lead before contraceptives) to reproduction.

I'd say that having sex without reproduction is kind of meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Don't get me wrong - I am not saying that you should jump onto a first bimbo and start spawning children and then get divorce raped and what not. Just making a point that sex is just a thing that nature uses to trick us into reproducing.

TornadoCreator · 2015-04-13T07:32:18+00:00

Sex is a great bit of fun, and a psychological need... that's all. It's not the most fun thing you can do. Generally speaking I'd rather eat something delicious, play a really good video game, have a nice soak in a hot tub with friends, or even cuddle with someone with a blanket and watch a film.

Sex is actually often a barrier. How many times have you been cuddled up with your girl, blanket wrapped around you, hand in hand, watching a film only to be distracted by your lizard brain saying, "You want to spoil this moment now to fondle her breasts". It's too damn often. It robs me of a lot of joy I think. The amount of times I've been watching my favourite TV shows but can't concentrate because my dick wakes up and all it can think about is how much I want to bend that actress across a table. It's pathetic.

Sex is great fun. I enjoy it and I've generally had good sex in my life. I'm currently seeing a young girl who's very sweet and we've got a decent dynamic going which sex is set to be just a part of; and even coming from a dry spell of over 2 years, (I've had a lot of personal shit I needed to deal with), I'm more excited for cuddling and closeness than sex.

It's a lesson we should all remember, sex is fine but it's not the best thing ever, our brains are just manipulated into thinking it is on a very short term basis. If anything genuine closeness is far nicer, with sex as merely an aspect of that.

RichieFinn · 2015-04-13T08:41:18+00:00

Ever since learning RP methods of obtaining sex i have found the leadup to sex more exciting than the act....knowing im working methods or "moves" to attract her often excites me more than the actual sex? is that odd?..probably, but fuck it.

TimeHo · 2015-04-13T10:31:50+00:00

I'd like to get to this point. I have a lot of work to do.

LugerDog · 2015-04-13T10:40:27+00:00

I agree sex can be blah with some chicks you are just there to fuck pretty much with a few exceptions. It can also be amazing with the right person that you have a deep bond with. For example my girl and I are extremely close, open minded, talk through everything as one, and because of all the great things about our relationship the sex is amazing due to that unbreakable bond. Also, you need to spice it up sometimes with role play, toys, and all the other goodies for adults. Keep it fun and exciting.

GhostInTheRedPill · 2015-04-13T11:02:22+00:00

I guess sex, food and death are all closely related. They are things we are programmed to do. Sometimes each one can be spectacular, ecstatic, marvelous. They can also be anti-climactic, painful or just...meh. Our best efforts can come up short, or we can have a great experience without trying at all. Yeah, sex is just a thing that is commoditised and commercialised.

NSA_web_spider · 2015-04-13T13:44:24+00:00

Perhaps you've had too much of it to be able to pair bond? That doesn't just happen to women. Sex is a critical part of a healthy LTR. Period and full stop, unless there some sort of functional or medical difficulty.

If you aren't into it for the pair bonding or the LTR , it's exercise and an orgasm, which I suspect could be obtained in many ways.

But in any way, it does leave you feeling healthier and better about yourself. So I wouldn't call it useless - but maybe I can agree with overrated.

the_red_scimitar · 2015-04-13T17:30:48+00:00

Automatically thinking that defending against this position means "slave to sex" is a gross error in thinking. Some of us MAKE the sex fantastic, every time. It takes skill to make that apparently-coquettish girl show you her slut side unashamedly, but unless you want sex to be "not that good", it's worth the rather trivial effort.

As the guy, you can do this. Yes, there are those very few truly cold fish who respond to nothing, but in my experience, they are pretty obvious beforehand.

2akurate · 2015-04-14T14:20:49+00:00

It's programmed into us to think that though, evolutionarily speaking. I don't fap so I aggressively pursue woman, and as soon as I cum I lose all intrest, it's almost like I'm high on something and it's just pushing me to do this thing, and once I do the thing I suddenly ask myself what the fuck I'm doing.

It's mother nature's little trick on us, it is what it is. Funny thing is that once you cum and you are grounded again woman lose all power over you. You don't give a shit about them anymore which in turn attracts them even more. It's the Alpha life, a cycle of constant empowerment. Once you get your foot into the door and your thought system no longer breaks you down you will build up and build up until you reach a peak of confidence you thought you could never reach.

nived321 · 2015-04-13T04:19:24+00:00

You need an above average dick to enjoy sex...

All these bitches be spreading their legs and treating size like a competition.

bigmfkr · 2015-04-13T06:21:15+00:00

I don't think this is a revelation.

Food is not that good. It's simply is a physiological need. As is sex. And that's it. Food is awesome when you're hungry; sex is awesome when you're horny. Both aren't that good when you don't want them.

watersign · 2015-04-13T06:19:58+00:00

yes it is. it is unfortunate many young people today are suffering from lower libidos, as this is what makes us human. my goal is to fuck as many women as possible. lol

shafe616 · 2015-04-14T00:14:06+00:00

What about abstinence? What if you never had to worry about finding a girl to have sex with or something to jerk off to. What if through abstinence you were able to dissolve your physical sex drive and get off in other ways, like a good relationship or meeting goals? I'm not against sex I'm just throwing the idea out there.

apply_truth · 2015-04-12T22:21:07+00:00

You might want to read sex God method to improve the quality of your sex.

antariusz · 2015-04-13T02:24:03+00:00

I couldn't disagree more.

Sex really is the most fun thing that I can think of doing. It's pretty much #1 for me in terms of leisure activities.

I mean, I have hobbies, but are you seriously going to suggest that an evening spent watching Game of Thrones is preferable to fucking a hot 20 year old?

Yes, there are some things that I do ONLY for sex. Lifting weights, for example. There is ZERO reason for me to become muscular if I didn't want more sex. I literally sit at a computer screen all day for my job, being muscular has zero benefit outside of improved social interactions. And by social interactions... I mean sex. I do it because it gets me laid. And that's ok.

cascadecombo · 2015-04-13T01:17:35+00:00

Doesnt matter if its good, men need sex. Men built this world because they wanted sex, and they lost sight of themselves because they failed to understand themselves.

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PawelKush · 2015-04-13T11:54:38+00:00

I do agree with you in a certain way. Sex is not the ultimate thing in life. It is the most important biological thing as if we do not reproduce, the specie ends. So, from this genetical point of view, primal point of view, sex is the thing you pursue in order to reproduce (animal level) From an energetical level, which is, higher (in a animal/human level) and more subtle, Sex is a transmutation. You exchange your sexual energy (vital energy) which exists even if you do not have sex in order to have pleasure and or reproduce. From my readings (ex: Think and grow rich) and my 1 year experience as a Nofapper you can transmute this energy. You do not need, on a higher level, to have sex even if you have urges to, especially when you're young (it's biological). This energy if you don't use it will not be wasted : you have way more energy, your mind is sharper etc.. You can transmut your urge to have sex in something better related to construction/expression of yourself and your life. From this point of view which is mine, you do a favor to a woman when you have sex with her because you could have use this energy to improve or create something. Instead you will lose this energy and feel tired. Especially if you have a lot of sex. If you don't wank or have sex, if you resist the urge, you will have a higher testosterone level (especially on day 7) and a lot of others benefits. (Go to /r/Nofap if you are interested in this)

To me having sex can be a way 1. To have pleasure if I don't have others more important things to do (plates) / To release my energy if I have too much 2. To improve myself sexually/ to experience (plates) 3. To construct something meaningful with a woman like a real relationship which serves you and your interests (LTR) 4.

IronBallsOfKnowledge · 2015-04-13T22:27:34+00:00

Sometimes the squeeze tastes better than the juice. I have the most fun trying to get the girls rather than hooking up with them. Sex is just a bonus.

Aussify · 2015-04-13T23:16:35+00:00

Playing music with others feels way, way better than sex. That's where most of my time is spent in cultivating relationships: with other musicians. The bond between musicians is much more satisfying on an emotional level than with females. It doesn't even compare, really.

Tidbitter · 2015-04-13T11:41:04+00:00

Is this an inside joke that I'm not in on? edit: I think I've been successfully trolled.

If this is real, allow me to retort. Sex most certainly IS great. It's what you make of it. Be a man. Take control of the situation.

That ONS? If she's not doing it for you, show her what you want. You want to jam your cock down her throat? Then jam your cock down her throat. You want her to suck your nipples while jamming it in her? Then put her mouth on your nipples. She'll know what to do. You want her to lick your ass? Tell her you want her to lick your ass as your pushing her head to your butthole. Whatever she's not doing, tell her to do it while you put her in position to do it.

To the guy who said that sex isn't that good without an emotional connection. You're sexing wrong.

And whoever said, "you should try sex with a dude", I'd ban you in a second.

Good god damn. What the fuck is up with you guys? This entire thread should be deleted. If subscribers read all the blue pill shit in this thread and think that "sex is not that good" and that they should - god forbid - "try sex with a dude", then they'll follow the hive mind.

This thread disgusts me to the point where it kept me up last night. To know the younger generation (apparently) is thinking this way, I can see my generation is dying out. A very, very sad fact.

Lord-Segaris · 2015-04-13T07:16:26+00:00

Broke up with this one 10 as soon as she was trying to control me or influence me with sex, lol won't work

smokerschoize · 2015-04-14T20:56:33+00:00

I feel Sorry for you man. Sex is not the final goal of anything, its a mean with what you Can connect with another human, in a way that really can't be substituted. It is not the center of human interaction. Its something that helps build a higher level of intimacy between humans - something that Makes People connect in a deeper way - something that Can end up Making you feel like a half of whole.

Title	Sex is not that good
Author	skoobled
Upvotes	604
Comments	255
Date	April 12, 2015 8:59 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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