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Dating “inequality” “data analysis”-🤣

FDS-GFY

April 16, 2022
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/r/FemaleDatingStrategy
https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-the-dating-economy/
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Title Dating “inequality” “data analysis”-🤣
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FDS-GFY

Upvotes 351
Comments 111
Date April 16, 2022 2:32 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/u4z1th/dating_inequality_data_analysis/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/dating-inequality-data-analysis.1112433
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Comments

[–]FUBARfromLSAFDS Newbie 743 points744 points745 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Oh look the patriarchy telling women to lower our standards AGAIN.

Where’s the advice telling men to level up?

[–]saint-jezebelFDS Newbie 416 points417 points418 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The patriarchy is not here to hold men accountable.

[–]FUBARfromLSAFDS Newbie 235 points236 points237 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No shit, it’s designed to hammer women down to a subjective position so men can elevate by default.

[–]saint-jezebelFDS Newbie 160 points161 points162 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Girl! Isn’t just disgusting at this point? They’re past telling on themselves.

[–]space_cataz__FDS Newbie 39 points40 points41 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL. I imagine a business institution actually saying this to women in response to their questions.

Oh wait...

[–]munakhtylerFDS Newbie 211 points212 points213 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It is the responsibility of MEN to be attractive to us. I won't date trash because a man decides to be trash

[–]Guyincognito9876FDS Newbie 67 points68 points69 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But then the MGTOWS also like to say that women are sluts who sleep with any loser.

[–]FUBARfromLSAFDS Newbie 56 points57 points58 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

After they drill us down to accept anyone.

The libfems are big part of the patriarchy

[–]Equal-Ear2312FDS Apprentice 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because what about those 80% dudes who like equally as much having their dicks sucked!?!🤡

They can fck each other all they want 😉. Women don't owe them shit. In nature, a female animal would not mate with a male that lost all the fights. This is not 1 man - 1 corresponding woman but that "Hinge scientist"🤡 thinks it should be.

[–]magnoliaashei 183 points184 points185 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I really like this study because it's obvious that some male data scientist wanted to definitively prove that he really can't get laid, and it's not just that he's an unappealing dweeb, it's that he is statistically unlikely to get a woman to like him. And all they actually do is show that they are concretely, numerically, objectively, not good enough to most women. It's almost... what we've all been saying all along? Men like this look at the options and they realize that they absolutely require monogamy in a society in order to have any chance of reproducing and having a woman companion. Women look at the options and realize we could have neither monogamy or polygyny and instead take care of ourselves and never have to settle for a man we don't like or a man who fucks around. We actually have all the power.

[–]FDS-GFYFDS Newbie[S] 49 points50 points51 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Basically, this. Right on.

[–]FDS-GFYFDS Newbie[S] 542 points543 points544 points 4 years ago* (39 children) | Copy Link

I was dead reading this. Like everything FDS tells us men think, he actually put out there for the world to see as a so called “objective” analysis.

“It seems hard to avoid a basic conclusion: that the majority of women find the majority of men unattractive and not worth engaging with romantically, while the reverse is not true. Stated in another way, it seems that men collectively create a “dating economy” for women with relatively low inequality, while women collectively create a “dating economy” for men with very high inequality.”

He the goes on to push the “polygyny” theory of women and suggest the answer to all this “inequality” is for more women to be “progressive” and date unattractive men.

Wtaf. It’s like all of Reddit neatly packaged for the average scrote to digest.

Men, in a free market, supply and demand rules. Capitalism dictates in the dating market you actually need to work harder for things. Deal with it.

[–]FI-REfoxFDS Newbie 317 points318 points319 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Agreed, once he gets past the data presentation, it's absolute garbage. Massive pseudoscience cope. There is a distinct, smug conclusion of "tough shit, ladies!"

It does really starkly bring the reality to light though: the only tactic we have as women is to just walk away and refuse to play the game. Reject the social pressure to be in a relationship -- aNy rElAtIoNsHiP!!1! This is all they have to offer and it's just not enough.

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[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist 118 points119 points120 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

It wasn’t a well written article at all.

I also laughed at him starting with Jesus, what a weird way to start. Thought…where are we going with this

It read like a deluded male desperately trying to stitch things together to prove the world is stacked against him. As confirmation for why he doesn’t need to change at all. And how women can’t see his inherent beauty and charm.

He sounds like your run of the mill bitter porn addict who has been recently humbled on Tinder

breaking news average entitled male discovers he’s not in high demand and there’s many more like him!

[–]Alert_Many_1196 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I laughed when I initially thought this was in another language but kept reading and it became clear he forgot the J and it was just esus. Not a great way to start an article lol.

[–]WafflesTheDuckFDS Newbie 98 points99 points100 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

There is a distinct, smug conclusion of "tough shit, ladies!"

What do we say about returning energy?

[–]PhilodendronfanaticFDS Newbie 107 points108 points109 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

More like: Though shit guys, if you can't add to our lives in a positive way then we can do fine without you.

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[–]frenchoysterplate 238 points239 points240 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They always lie.

They pretend to talk about sex, relationships and romance. Bullshit.

They are talking about casual sex. Waaaah random women on dating apps wont match and fuck me like porn and media told me they would.

I want to play the field where is my harem !!! Sluts wont fuck me !

It is amazing how dumb, entitled and immature these guys are.

[–]Geocities_SEO_ExpertFDS STRATEGY COACH 133 points134 points135 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, there is no "dating economy", dating is a transitory phase. Men are the ones trying to stretch it out forever, and then crying when they're 30 and alone.

[–]sweettheoriesFDS Newbie 186 points187 points188 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

“Whatever rules govern the future of dating and sex, they should find a way to deal with the polygynous instincts that our species has historically possessed and that show up in the present day in the statistics of our dating apps, or else be willing to accept the risk of sexual conflict and war-“ stop there, UGH.

What he means is “stop seeking romance and attractive men and become a member of a man’s sexual rotation to make them feel more validated because sex is their currency”. WTF

[–]all_or_nothing_betFDS Apprentice 179 points180 points181 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And also to prevent mass murdering by people like him.

I read it as a threat.

This individual is very ill and dangerous.

[–]StrawberryMoon3FDS Apprentice 115 points116 points117 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's indeed a threat. This whole article was written to scare women into compliance.

[–]Geocities_SEO_ExpertFDS STRATEGY COACH 91 points92 points93 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I have a better solution for his dilemma, leave men who can barely function in society completely out of the gene pool.

[–]softensonicFDS Newbie 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And stop helping them. At all. Don't enable, don't acknowledge.

[–]Inspection-CriticalFDS Newbie 89 points90 points91 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

or else be willing to accept the risk of sexual conflict and war-“

I read this as: "Give us what we want or we'll rape you and it'll be your fault."

[–]dee_isabirdFDS Newbie 102 points103 points104 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I’m just shocked because I thought I was alone in swiping through dating apps and thinking all but one obvious fboi out of a 100 are ugly.

[–]depletedundef1952 118 points119 points120 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My great aunt and I were just discussing this a few days ago. We were looking at her old pictures from college, and the guys were all strikingly handsome from my perspective while most of the guys were considered average to her. I then showed her pictures of millennial and gen z males, and she said to me: Ew! No wonder you don't bother dating men.

[–]asowwFDS Newbie 42 points43 points44 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Girl you ain't alone....... for sure.

[–]yoghurtpotter 98 points99 points100 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yep! Honestly if all men showered every day, had healthy diets, did exercise, made an effort to wear nice clean clothes, took care of their bodily hair, learned to talk to women as real people with souls, stopped playing computer games, stopped watching porn, took accountability for self improvement etc then the number of fuckable men would be much closer to 100%. It's not rocket science but they are too entitled to actually put any effort in

[–]FDS-GFYFDS Newbie[S] 52 points53 points54 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. When I was younger I struggled to understand the concept if Econowife from Handmaid’s Tale. Now I get it. Scrotes who aren’t in the elite expect a mommy mcbangmaid to be given to them.

[–]purasangriaFDS Disciple 50 points51 points52 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They say that men are less choosy than women, but it's because men aren't looking for a life partner, they're just looking for sex. So of course they aren't choosy.

Women are looking for a life partner, so of course we're pickier. If men stopped thinking with their dicks, then they would likely be pickier as well. But we all know THAT'S not going to happen.

[–]DrildoBagurrenFDS Apprentice 331 points332 points333 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Well i think some inc3ls photoshopped a woman to have a beard and chest hair and generally look as unattractive as possible, put her up on tinder and she actually got plenty of matches.

It's not that men have "created a dating eco omy for women with little inequality" it's just that they are thinking with their dicks as soon as they see a woman - "is she fuckable?". "how desperate are you right now? because you could probably bag this one for a quick lay." See that article where the guy accidentally sent the photo of his match to her, called her a "solid four" after calling her beautiful in a message meant for her. Men are beggars and beggars aren't choosers.

They'll only consider a relationship if the woman is someone they can present to their friends and/or family or they're desperate but keep it on the DL.

Women are looking for relationships and are unlikely to pump and dump an ugly guy for no reason. We just don't operate like that. We see human beings and we also try to choose men who will treat us well as best we can. Have you seen men's profiles ??

All this analysis says to me is that men put in zero effort and get what they can.

[–]seraphinelysionFDS Apprentice 192 points193 points194 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not that men have "created a dating eco omy for women with little inequality" it's just that they are thinking with their dicks as soon as they see a woman - "is she fuckable?". "how desperate are you right now? because you could probably bag this one for a quick lay."

Simply put: men do not value women. And then they are surprised we don't find someone who looks down on us to be attractive and we want nothing to do with them???

[–]ReadLearnLoveFDS Newbie 128 points129 points130 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Agree with you. And a natural extension of this for actual, thinking men would be: "When I am encouraged to put forth no or merely token effort into actual relationships with women, who wins?" No wonder the patriarchy is being defended so ferociously. If men took a milisecond to reflect, they might perceive how the patriarchy also lies to them. But regrettably, most have already been conditioned not to reflect thusly, but to be satisfied with a false, empty superiority. It is grotesque.

[–]spicyspaFDS Newbie 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right men are sold this bullshit and most don't question it.

[–]dee_isabirdFDS Newbie 79 points80 points81 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep that’s why they love to trot out the “with every gorgeous woman there’s a man who is tired of fucking her” cope to justify never getting the hot girl.

Meanwhile we all know there’s thousands more men who would eagerly take his place and marriage extends a man’s lifespan not a woman’s.

[–]FI-REfoxFDS Newbie 245 points246 points247 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

What a fascinating study! Thank you OP for finding and posting it.

I do have a major problem with its findings and conclusion, however. The entire premise of the study is flawed, because the women and men on dating apps are "liking" each other for completely different reasons. The women, in general, are evaluating men for relationships, and the men are evaluating women for hookups.

Most of the women are "pickier" because they are rating a whole individual, while men are merely rating a set of physical characteristics. Of course they are less selective.

We may pity the large majority of men who are regarded as unattractive and who have few or no romantic experiences while a small percentage of attractive men have many. Just as much, consider that we live in a monogamous culture, and so the 20 percent of men who are regarded as attractive can only be in committed relationships with at most 20 percent of women. We may just as well pity the rest of the women, who are destined to be in committed relationships, if they pursue a relationship at all, with someone who
they regard as unattractive.

We all know that we can't change others, we can only change ourselves. Women are already bringing love and care and value to their relationships. These "lovelorn" men could be better, act better, love better, and earn a relationship, but they would rather get something for nothing.

[–]ItsFreezenFDS Newbie 189 points190 points191 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Most of the women are "pickier" because they are rating a whole individual, while men are merely rating a set of physical characteristics. Of course they are less selective.

This.

[–]FDSDedicated 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes! As a follow-on comment, when I was doing OLD, I actually avoided guys who were traditionally "hot" because if they seemed to be too looks-focused, I assumed (fairly or not) they would be shallow and few other interests. Instead I would look for guys whose looks I liked/found appealing, and whose profiles were otherwise interesting to me.

And, most importantly, I would skim over any low-effort profile and any profile where there was even a whisper of resentment, especially about past relationships.

[–]FDS-GFYFDS Newbie[S] 116 points117 points118 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s an absolute joke of analytics. Full pf cognitive bias everywhere.

[–]seraphinelysionFDS Apprentice 141 points142 points143 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I remember seeing a video posted on Reddit a long time ago with this dude at a baseball game, but he wasn't paying much attention to the game as he was sitting in his seat furiously swiping away on every women's profile he came across without even looking at her profile let alone her photo. He did not miss one swipe. I wonder how many men are doing this out there and skewing the numbers for data research? 😂

It's not so much that men are creating "dating economics which are low on inequality," but that men get so little attention from women that they will take ANYTHING we might throw at them. The desperation alone is what makes a lot of men really unattractive. Couple that with low effort, zero romance, being social awkward, selfish, inconsiderate, entitled, cheap, etc etc... and you have everything you need to know why women find the majority of men wholly unattractive.

[–]all_or_nothing_betFDS Apprentice 91 points92 points93 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. It's not as much about their physical unattractiveness (and most men are simply unkempt and poorly groomed, not objectively ugly), as it is about men being bad people, treating women as objects and lacking the basic qualities of humanity that every woman appreciates and offers in a relationship, such as kindness, care, generosity, gentleness, devotion, empathy and loyalty.

[–]purasangriaFDS Disciple 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's the lack of effort for me. The OLD men don't even care about the woman's profile, they just want a chance to fuck for as little as possible, so they put zero effort into courting a women. Cheap dates, no planning, no dressing nicely is the norm. After all, why put in any effort at all when you don't care about her beyond an opportunity to get her into bed?

Women are more thoughtful. We care about the whole guy, not just his looks, because we're looking for more than sex. We put effort into hair, clothing, makeup because we want to put our best foot forward.

There is a total mismatch in effort, which is what turns off the women. I've stopped dating altogether, because the GenX men just can't be bothered to dress decently (the last date I had was wearing a sport coat with sleeves 2 inches too long, and the back vent still tacked down, eyeroll) or actually keep themselves in good condition. They are mostly fat and unattractive, and I'd rather be single than sleep with that.

[–]seraphinelysionFDS Apprentice 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you! The total lack of effort is what does it for me too. I mean I was married to a no-effort manbaby for 14 years and I'm not willing to put up with that again for even 1 second. I've paid my dues and I know I deserve way better than that shit. But men are just so dumb and lazy, can't think beyond their own immediate gratification, and have become so cheap with this 50/50 bullshit. Where have all the gentlemen gone? What happened to building an experience? Now it's just this "let's vibe" bullshit. 🙄They don't want to romance you to get you to like them. How many times have you heard men say "I just want someone to like me for me, not what I do for them!" And what that translates to is basically: I don't want to have to put effort in; why don't women just like me without me having to do something to get them to like me? Sir, if you want unconditional love and pussy, go crawl back into your mom's vagina/womb and never come out again.

[–]Catz10000FDS Newbie 63 points64 points65 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly. And men lie. If they were honest, they wouldn't get laid which is their primary objective.

[–]ceramicunicornFDS Disciple 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

What I see it as, is as you said, a set of physical characteristics, but beyond that, those physical characteristics serving as packaging for a potential bundle of services she might “do for” him.

And yeah, this really has nothing to do with who she is as a person. What men are struggling with are these cultural hand me downs (that are finally falling apart and are largely unwearable), whereby women had no other choice but to accept these raw deals where they are not seen as people, but service packages delivered in pretty boxes.

What I cannot understand is the male brain- how you can claim to want something so badly, but not do the emotional work it takes to get it. We’re literally telling them what we need and it’s like there is some kind of mental block to where they cannot comprehend that some relinquishment of dominance in the short term can lead to more power in the long term, because a relationship with a woman is going to elevate their status and respect with other men.

[–]ButterfliesHurricaneFDS Newbie 77 points78 points79 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

🤯 it doesn’t mean anything, from what I read men swipe on all women to maximise their chances so going by number of swipes has no significance if the majority of men look for sex and women for relationships. The poor dude is comparing the GBP price of an apple with the USD price of 1lb of pear. Someone please tell him to go out and enjoy the fresh air, sunshine and flowers because if he can’t find anyone to date it’s probably because he spends 24/7 producing non sensical gibberish from the depth of his dark basement 🤦🏼‍♀️

[–]TafahaDeTerreFDS Newbie 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

THANK YOU.

This is exactly what I came here to say. This idiot is basing all of his LoGiCaL DaTa AnALiSys on online dating habits, completely ignoring the fact that OLD platforms aren't representative. Men swipe on everything, women are choosy, and everyone on OLD is desperate.

Here in reality a person's 'market value' isn't determined by one photo of them. People actually, literally, have more dimensions to them.

[–]ButterfliesHurricaneFDS Newbie 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

What’s really sad is that he probably believes his own bs 🙈. Angrily swiping while muttering a frustrated: she blocked me because I have a scientific 0.5 and she has 0.3. LifE Is UNfaiR 🤣

[–]millions_ofpeachs4meFDS Newbie 200 points201 points202 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Good find, OP.

I believe this massive inequality is the reason for patriarchy in the first place.

There’s an inherent value in femaleness. I would even say that the very best of men are still below that inherent value because of the female ability to create new life. Obviously not everyone wants kids, but that doesn’t erase the biological facts of what it means to be male or female. The subjugation of women is about (artificially) lowering that female value so that most men have a shot at sex and reproduction. Given incel rage attacks, there’s a peacekeeping aspect as well.

It’s amazing that so many people, men and women, can highlight the symptoms (inequality in dating, wages, recognition, opportunity, medical care) but never get to the root of the issue: womanhood is erased and devalued. The only folks I ever hear talking about celebrating womanhood as womanhood, not off-brand manhood that libfems sell, is radical feminists. Food for thought.

[–]FDS-GFYFDS Newbie[S] 63 points64 points65 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This was casually dropped into a LinkedIn conversation where OP was honoring the female founder of Bumble for going public. Not a fan of hers but this was delivered by a scrote as “OMGWTF OLD HURTS TEH MENZ”

[–]IwantyoualltoBEDAVEPickmeisha™️ 45 points46 points47 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for mentioning the true love of women that radical feminism offers

[–]ironglaciersFDS Newbie 48 points49 points50 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a reason I'm a radfem. It's self-preservation at the very least.

[–]elainejay82FDS Apprentice 108 points109 points110 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

There’s an inherent value in femaleness. I would even say that the very best of men are still below that inherent value because of the female ability to create new life. Obviously not everyone wants kids, but that doesn’t erase the biological facts of what it means to be male or female

This is really IT right here. We are just more valuable for this reason. And you know what? Good men know it. HVM know it. It's only absolute scrotes who would ever put themselves above decent women. We create life, that's it that's all. And no matter how these guys try to slice it, p*ssy is still on a pedestal and always will be. Nobody, man or societal structure, can ever convince me otherwise no matter how much they try to gaslight us.

Simply put, our worth is more than literally ALL men. Scrotes who can't act right for half a millisecond with a woman and therefore would never get laid, just aren't our problem. The mental gymnastics to drag us into banging ugly NV scrotes in this article is pretty astounding though. 😂🤏

[–]all_or_nothing_betFDS Apprentice 114 points115 points116 points 4 years ago2 (1 child) | Copy Link

We don't just create life. We also sustain and maintain it, nurse and nurture, heal, love and establish emotional connections within and outside communities that last generations and promote cohesion and resilience.

Men's only job is to provide protection and help with resources (women are generally way more resourceful anyway) to ensure a safe, hazard-free environment for their women and children. And they fail at that, refusing to be men and existing as parasites while feeling entitled to all the benefits of femininity.

[–]elainejay82FDS Apprentice 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep! The comment of all comments! The emotional and nurturing labor of women is absolutely invaluable, cannot be measured, and is everything...and society deems it worth almost nothing and barely ever gives it a mention. It's mind boggling! Yet, zero people on this earth would be here without it.

WHat dO yOu bRinG tO tHe tablE? Sir, I am the seed of the wood that eventually built the whole house that the table resides in.

[–]Platipus6FDS Disciple 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

drag us into banging ugly NV scrotes

Why would we create more ugly, loveless scrotes? That just seems cruel, and I'm too nice for that :)

[–]ceramicunicornFDS Disciple 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

THIS is the content that women dating need to be reading. I hope you will make it its own post!

[–]flirtyfriedkahuna 68 points69 points70 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Could all these dating gender differences be attributed to the fact that most men cant be arsed to wash their ballsack more than once a week?

[–]DivineGoddess1111111FDS Newbie 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Once a week is generous.

[–]Sage_PlanterFDS Disciple 160 points161 points162 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I know we've talked about taking microphones away from men, but do we need to ban them from the internet entirely?

I've spent many years on-and-off online dating apps, and my biggest issue with crap like this is that 90% of men on dating apps just don't give a shit. They put 0.02% effort into creating their profile with poor photos and missing information then get upset when women aren't swiping. I read a stat here once that 40%(!) of profiles don't even have photos. I've come across many, many profiles where I was like "well, if he put in some effort into his appearance/prompt," I would have swiped right.

Then of the 10% that put in a base amount of effort into crafting their profiles, 8% have some other non-starter like a creeper first message or a wife. So there's maybe 2% (if that) of men on dating apps that are even dateable to begin with.

[–]nevermindtoday6 59 points60 points61 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly. They complain about no matches...10 minutes swiping on any dating site as a straight woman and they would understand why. There's also a trend of men basically saying they're dangerous or just trash.

They think they shouldn't have to appeal to us at all while demanding "a chance", they are just so entitled.

[–]Platipus6FDS Disciple 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

MY DICK IS HERE LADIES. COME GET A CHANCE AT MY COCK.

[–]Platipus6FDS Disciple 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So many "I'll fill this out later" or "I'll write something if the app works"

If the app works, you got a match for zero effort, why would you then fill it out. Way to announce you're a lazy bum.

[–]SupportWomenAlways 45 points46 points47 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No photo means cheater or (perceives himself as) extremely ugly

[–]desertcoyoteazulFDS Newbie 83 points84 points85 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What a strange way to say majority of women are out of a males league. Using words like “inequality” doesn’t make me want to give ugly losers a shot or even the pleasure of me glancing their way.

I’m a business woman, I don’t give out freebies. If a male needs sympathy he can find himself a pickme or go to his mother.

I mean really, do they think women don’t already know that most male genes are inadequate? Lmao! It’s not some new finding.

[–]Platipus6FDS Disciple 44 points45 points46 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Relying on social conditioning of women like we should care.

Oh he's explained it with stats and logic, let me rush out and bag a sad uggo.

[–]desertcoyoteazulFDS Newbie 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I could give two shits about whiny males lacking in girth (as one of their many complaints). Even if I could write off “caring” as some community service in my taxes I still wouldn’t care.

[–]ErocitnamFDS Newbie 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

"The institution of monogamy is itself a “redistributive” type of policy: like capping the income of billionaires, it caps the total allowed romantic partners of the most attractive, so that unattractive people have much better chances to find a partner. The marriages that we read about in historical accounts that are based on prudence and family arrangement make more sense when we realize that basing marriage on mutual attraction leads so many—both men and women—to be unsatisfied with the outcome, since most women find most men unattractive. All of the world’s great religious traditions have extolled chastity as a great virtue and taught that there are higher goals than sexual satisfaction—these teachings add meaning to the otherwise “poor” lives of the majority of people who are regarded as perpetually unattractive."

"Even in centuries-old fairy tales ... we see our culture’s attempt to come to terms with the paradigm of a woman regarded as attractive pairing with a man who she regards as unattractive... In these fairy tales... the beautiful woman first accepts or even loves the hideous man. The sincere love of a woman transforms the unattractive man into something better: more handsome, richer, and royal."

Reading this part was a fun little whiplash ride. I was nodding along to this section like, "good point, these are tactics that have been used to trick and opress women into suffering in unhappy marriages!" And then he revealed that he thought they were a societal good, instead of a poison! Wtf!

Also absolutely unhinged of him to refer to survival of the fittest mate selection as "the most barbaric, unequal animal social structure that ever existed". What do you want to bet he doesn't have any complaints about how men's "natural" urge to pursue young "fertile" women is barbaric and unequal?

Just a shameless attitude of "if evo psych says it's inherent to humanity, but it hurts men like me, then it's barbaric, uncivilized and bad. We should rise above our nature! On the other hand, if evo psych says it's inherent to humanity and yet it hurts women, that doesn't matter. It's normal and natural and therefore justified!"

[–]BooksandEarlGreyTeaFDS Newbie 54 points55 points56 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

That is a lot of words for I want women to be automatically given to men and laws changed so she can never leave him. And I will attempt to use religion and big words to hid my incel tendencies.

[–]MyBeautifulSweetsong 49 points50 points51 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I also love how they are acting like men have been so generous in"creating" a dating field. The fact of the matter is that because men will fuck anything that moves...or stands still long enough they have created an atmosphere where they are texting women they haven't even met and talking about horrific , painful and degrading sexual torture acts such as fisting and wondering why we don't want to talk them in this generous climate they have created.

[–]spaghettiforhair 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is such a stupid article. First and foremost, it's completely neglecting the fact that people have bios? When I used online dating, I swipped left on most men because their bios were either super boring or had red flags. It had nothing to do with how much I wanted to have sex with them. It also assumes that everyone is hetersexual and attractiveness is something objective and unchangeable. I think men with muscles and tattoos are super attractive, some people are into smaller guys or dadbods and don't like tattoos. But if I'm a millionaire, that isn't subjective. If you don't groom yourself or put much effort into your appearance (like a lot of men), then yeah no shit of course you're not going to be attractive.

This is such a flawed "study" and even if it wasn't, dating apps are not translatable to real life. You can get a lot of matches and still be chronically single. The very idea of a "sexual market economy" is degrading and dehumanizing to both men and women.

[–]purasangriaFDS Disciple 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The whole concept of "sexual marketplace value" (sometimes abbreviated as SMV) is a total incel concept, used by The Red Pill community to degrade women over 30 because our SMV supposedly takes a nosedive at 30, see also "The Wall."

The whole concept is predicated on the fact that all men want women under 30. Well, wanting is not getting. The only men getting women under 30 are 1) men under 30, and 2) filthy rich men who are essentially buying women. That's it. Unless you are one of those two, you are not getting a woman under 30.

[–]wefwhat 61 points62 points63 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao. That was hilarious.

No mention at all about how women are told societally to optimize for looks while men are told to optimize for money/success. Yes I’m sure that has no impact on why so many men are found unattractive by the average woman /s. Seriously men are basically told it makes them homosexual if they care about how they look but all those swiping studies are based on apps where the POINT is how you look.

In real life, your humor, charisma, hell even how you carry yourself, all play a role in whether people are attracted to you.

But yes let’s just assume women have and should marry men they aren’t attracted to and then have sex with men they aren’t attracted rather than the much more reasonable solution men should make a larger effort to be attractive to women and perhaps even search out women in the big scary world rather than hiding online.

This man is myopic and sees only his own POV. Thank god I think he’s in the small minority

[–]Afraid-Procedure586 42 points43 points44 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Am a data scientist. This entire article is so stupid.

[–]FDS-GFYFDS Newbie[S] 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup. It’s like an entire universe of cognitive bias.

[–]NotMyRealName814FDS Newbie 57 points58 points59 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bradford Tuckfield, huh? Nice porn name, loser. I have never seen a better example of loser incel ideology dressed up as "data science". He and his unbridled misogyny can fuck right on off.

[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist 87 points88 points89 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

How are they surprised by this?🤣

Men complain about everything they created

I’m starting to think they’re permanently impaired by porn consumption and their struggling grey matter cannot comprehend reality any longer

Men own most of the big media outlets, take most positions of political power, porn companies are owned by men, most cosmetic labs owned by men, most cosmetic surgeons profiting = male

They set extremely high beauty standards for women (higher than need be) and frequently compare them / put women’s appearances down and that’s why most men find more women attractive because women genuinely put in more effort regarding grooming

That’s mostly a result of immense pressure and frequent media brainwashing though they are now jealous of women for meeting these standards and want to punish them for that with cheating / negging & abuse

Men created extreme porn and Hollywood movies where hideous loser men get highly desirable women and shoved this down our throats as if we agree

When in real life we know settling for low value men often ends in abuse & humiliation - him using us to get a foot up the ladder. He is not Prince Charming here to protect us. He is covert narcissist.

Before women had financial independence they kept us trapped with religious brainwashing & gatekeeping women from politics / law etc so it was difficult to escape them

So those women’s choices weren’t natural anyways when you could be locked in a mental ward for having kids out of wedlock & refusing to marry an abusive cheat in the 1930s

Yes that’s right, even in the U.K., many women were locked inside mental asylums after discovering their child’s father was a cheating liar & refusing to marry him . Divorce was taboo & shamed upon so kids grew up around more toxic marriages in poverty

They’re now crying at women complaining they don’t even put bare minimum effort into themselves whilst expecting attractive women to chase after them

Also WHY are they surprised attractive people do better on visual image based dating apps?

Most men don’t even read bios anyway because they’re not looking to date, they’re looking for sex with someone THEY find sexually attractive - there’s nothing mutual about their parasitic mindset

Most haven’t put any effort into their profiles and there’s plenty boasting about what a clown they are

And why do these losers act like it’s the only place to find people to date? Oh because they’re lazy and want women to play into their delusions, so they have a haram of hot women to use whilst keeping a high value wife they don’t deserve

Of course lazy game/ porn addicted men would prefer dating apps to scout for women, they don’t have the balls to approach in real life

Idk why the most mundane broke male believes his genes / personality is worthy of a haram but it’s probably due to copious porn consumption

Lazy low value men love crying about the ‘inequality’ of not being able to order several attractive women off dating apps a week for casual sex because they’re lazy pornsick gamers and delusional

In real life if I’m being brutally honest I find about 5% of men very healthy looking & instantly attractive to the point where I feel primal sexual attraction off first look

They already had good genes but were very fit / well groomed / dressed & had stable tempers

Though some of those would ruin it with their mouth and attitude later

A lot of attractive men don’t think they need a personality bc the bar is so low

But a lot of unattractive men are also very boring, manipulative and bitter and cheat

There’s about 20% who could roughly scrape ‘tolerable’ - Aka made some effort but aren’t giving me flutters off first sight but they had put some effort in .

Most men ruin everything with their mouth, insecurity and foul entitled attitude.

It’s rarely just the looks. They always have a foul attitude on top of it.

And being honest most unattractive/ broke men have worse attitudes than the attractive / wealthy ones these days. So what gives? Date down to receive worse treatment?

Not to mention dating apps tend to attract the male dregs of society - anti social lazy men, men with records, no conversation skills, men who lie a lot & can’t keep girlfriends

The types of men who would match me on dating apps I’d say 80% wouldn’t approach me in real life ever so they weren’t even viable options to me

They just flicked yes on my face cos they liked it

They don’t think about whether the woman finds him attractive back bc they only want sex & the male brain suffers from conformation bias - it thinks everyone he wants , should want them back instantly.

So I’m not surprised by those figures.

In real life I see way more attractive women with sociable personalities than I do men. It’s hardly shocking information.

And dating apps attract more of the bottom tier lazy pornsick men who don’t do well in real life. Bottom tier as in - across the board they have very little going for them. But are still rude, low effort and entitled.

I see very few ‘head turning’ healthy looking men in real life anyways. And very few of those men have tolerable personalities. That’s their problem not mine, men as a collective are like a giant anti climax. Take sympathy on their looks/ financial setbacks and they will still turn out far worse than you possibly imagined.

I only see multiple fit well dressed guys at festivals or large scale events in hot weather. Probs cos they put in more effort leading up to it.

The truth is most men don’t make effort AND have foul attitudes on top of that.

They feel entitled to women who look good, are caring, sociable & affectionate whilst they breadcrumb, do the minimum, act abusive & cheat. It is not a mutual exchange - it’s parasitic. And they deliberately antagonise women & push boundaries until they’re hostile & too drained to try.

Idk why these low value men are addicted to pushing their luck but it’s really not our problem.

Also I have found in general, unattractive/ broke men are far more sexually aggressive, entitled, rude, cocky and low effort. Bad for insecurity & cheating & being possessive. Many have deep misogyny they can’t hide well. Have fragile tempers, sky high demands & bring too many power games. I find them less safe and more controlling. So I do not find them the ‘safer’ option by far, despite how they perceive themselves.

I genuinely feel a bit safer with a simple gym bro these days. What it says on the tin. Straight forward. Simple. Most modern men are too unhinged, insecure & aggressive - that’s why they’re being rejected.

[–]MadamePotpourriFDS Newbie 58 points59 points60 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men complain about everything they created

So accurate lol. Men created dating apps to harvest personal data and photos and sell it to advertising companies for a profit. Scrotes are too stupid to realize this.

They think that because they took 90 seconds out of their day to sign up for a dating app that they are entitled to a hot 20 year old match whose eager to drive herself to his house and sleep with him.

Scrotes delusion and entitlement is through the roof. Most put little to no effort in trying to look attractive to women to be impressive, then complain that women don't want them. LMAO. Not my problem.

Women need to continue to ignore these loser males. Men love to create fantasies that paint themselves as the victim. Men want women to feel sorry for them so that we feel so sorry we lower our standards and 'give them a chance'. But the reality is that they don't deserve a chance.

This whole article is about how women dont find most men attractive. Ok then, instead of whinging about it, how about you make yourself more attractive??

[–]myheartisfullofloveFDS Newbie 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

queen i am absolutely screaming and laughing over your post thank you 😂

[–]ARealDame 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"What it says on the tin." 😆 🔥

[–]Platipus6FDS Disciple 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Porn addled male writes nonsensical dribble based on one flawed piece of data - it's SINGLE men on dating apps being rated for attractiveness, and yes, 80%+ of men that other women have thrown back are undesirable. The barely tolerable or adequate looking men are paired up.

To then extrapolate these unfuckable leftovers as "all of society" then write a wankifesto about it.. someone should take his mechanical keyboard away.

Guys, if you're facially malnourished, go yell at your dad for impregnating your mom and not caring about your love life.

[–]daisy_0720FDS STRATEGY COACH 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Guys, if you're facially malnourished, go yell at your dad for impregnating your mom and not caring about your love life.

I just spat water over my keyboard.

I freaking love this sub.

[–]JulyParadeFDS Newbie 91 points92 points93 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

What a crock. Total failure to mention that most men using online dating platforms are already in a relationship. Why should polygamy be encouraged if men are already in relationships? I wonder if the author got dizzy from his mental gymnastics.

Edit: For those of you wondering about this statistic, several years ago the number was about 40%. I imagine that number has only gone up. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/may/07/dating-app-tinder-married-relationship

Just this morning I saw a FB post from a girl who found out her boyfriend of 4 years was on Bumble. I doubt he's there to "make friends" no matter what the "just communicate and ask him how he feels" crowd would have you believe. FWB maybe. I used to date online and I'm pretty sure I went on several first dates with men who had girlfriends. That's not even counting the men who said they were in open relationships but I wasn't allowed to verify with their girlfriend because she "doesn't want to know". My pickme friends even introduced me to a man with a girlfriend. I didn't date him, but I knew him for 3 months and he NEVER mentioned her. So one day I said "how's your girlfriend" and he said he was considering breaking up with her... exactly what he had said to the pickmes 3 months earlier. I saw him ask out dozens of women and I doubt his long-term girlfriend ever came up. But we're supposed to give him credit for "being honest" when called out? No thank you.

[–]agotasaidwhat 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

a girl who found out her boyfriend of 4 years was on Bumble

WTF

[–]dolphiya_or_parateenFDS Newbie 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol. As if looking at online dating provides an accurate data set. Men skew the data themselves by swiping on everyone indiscriminately 🤣 they literally buy apps to swipe for them. Meanwhile, over in the real world, half the beautiful women I know have boyfriends that look like fkin sea monsters. This is incredibly stupid and unscientific.

[–]spicyspaFDS Newbie 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel sorry for young women. I am constantly appalled at the lack of grooming and hygiene in young men. I think the major turning point started around 2010. Makes it super easy not to want to be a cougar lol. Having said that, older men aren't much better since men don't age very well.

[–]No-Function613 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women are the ‘choosers’ of nature. That selection is the reason that our species evolves. For as long as we are of a certain sentience, I believe it will forever be this way. There will always be this ‘inequality’ because that’s just the way it is. I’ve started to refer to men blaming women for things like this as an ‘Adam thing to do’. Ie the competition in dating that makes this ‘inequality’ something for some men to complain about, is partially down to how men are competing with each other, it’s not women’s fault. Just like it wasn’t Eve’s fault Adam ate the apple…

[–]DivineGoddess1111111FDS Newbie 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Coincidentally, I've never met an Adam who wasn't a complete fuckwit. It's a red flag name for me.

[–]Peaches-McNuggs 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see caliper weekly is running incel ideology propaganda now.

[–]MyBeautifulSweetsong 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Did anyone see that article going around the internet a couple of years ago about a guy complaining about "cutoff culture" and then he described basically stalking an ex. He was skewered so hard. He went to the girls job and she ignored him and he tried to make her out to be the bad guy.

He got roasted off the internet for trying to turn a break up he didn't want into a new thing called cutoff culture. I'll see if I can find the link.

Edit: found it read down to the part where Emma, the ex tells him she doesn't want to speak to him anymore and threatens to file a harassment report against him. He is really trying to spin this thing. It's scary.

https://jeffreifman.com/2014/01/11/breakups-and-cutoff-culture/

[–]iheartnoodlezFDS Newbie 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This article is sad and infuriating. Not once did the author self-reflect nor encourage in his audience of cut-offs to ask "WHY might this person have cut me off?" For every instance of someone not speaking to me any more, either neutral or negative I can point to various reasons why they would believe it's in their best interest not to. Does it mean I agree? No. Does it also mean people have free will and are allowed to choose to leave? Yes.

For myself I have left friends and also had friends leave me. In each case I tried to discuss the why of it all, and very few people actually want to hear why they are cut-off-able.

This article also completely ignores the very large (and frequent) possibility that telling a man why you left them results in physical harm.

Sigh. I honestly think people are such babies. Go to therapy. Self-reflect, journal on your flaws, let people go. Move on. The internet has given whiners an infinite stage to mope.

[–]Colour_riotFDS Newbie 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

wtf is this attempt to label anything men impose on themselves "inequality". Sex is not a fucking human right. Even if they don't have hands, they can just buy one of those new age toys for men

[–]Hypatia-etal 52 points53 points54 points 4 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link

The presentation of this information is flawed. But there is another, partially told story here. Only 20% of men are worthy of 100% of women. These men should be donating to sperm banks so women don’t have to reproduce with unsuitable men. The entire social structure of dating , marriage, property ownership, government control, money etc achieves one thing. It gives men unworthy of breeding the power to force women or con women into bearing their offspring. We shouldn’t be competing for those limited high quality men. It serves the best interest of humanity for women to only reproduce with 20% of them. According to this article 20% of all men should be fathering 100% of the children. It is to the detriment of humans as a species to allow other men to reproduce. In fact allowing other men to reproduce may be what contributed to this disproportionate number of high quality vs low quality mating partners. Females of most species are responsible for choosing their mate. They choose the highest quality available. That mate fathers most of the offspring in a given community. Our social structure defeats this. But bc we aren’t in control this can’t be fixed by male centered practices like poly. The only real solution is by some dystopian high tech manner of ensuring only a set class of males reproduce, requiring the top 20% to do so, where all females can access. While all other males are only permitted to engage in sex that doesn’t result in reproduction or none at all. One result is in just a few generations the % of high quality men would increase by virtue of good genes. (Eyeroll eugenics) It is apparent to me how centuries of forcing women to marry any man for survival has created a large population of unsuitable male mates.

P.s. He lost me at “dating economy.” He presents this like women hold all the power & men are unfairly treated. His comment that “there are no villains here,” is utter bs. There is one set of villains here & their selfish, self serving catering to their immediate urges has created a deteriorating situation caused by centuries of their denying women access to community equity & power, autonomy, self sufficiency, & self determination. Like always, women get stuck with the hard work of addressing the problem.

😂 The angry DM’s have begun. Read a dystopian future book if you think I made this up. Start with brave new world.

Incels think women are pampered, a delusional, self serving way to frame male privilege.

[–]Platipus6FDS Disciple 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

He lost me at "nd those with more attractiveness can access more and better romantic experiences"

No, beautiful women, hell, the majority of women do not get better romantic experiences. If his definition of "better experience" is just being in the presence of, or getting to fuck, someone attractive, he's all the way smoothbrain.

[–]spinsterchachkiesFDS Disciple 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

By “better romantic experiences” he means fucking a Stacy without having to pay for it like an attractive man.

[–]Geocities_SEO_ExpertFDS STRATEGY COACH 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's terrible, men who think this way never treat any woman well. They get jealous and try to get revenge, assuming that pretty women have had the whole world handed to them. It definitely doesn't work that way when half the population is trying to get revenge.

They're so convinced of it, too. I was always open about growing up in the ghetto and having a shitty childhood and youth, and men still think that I somehow wedged a "princess" lifestyle in there somewhere. And some of these men had the nerve to rant about women being superficial.

[–]Platipus6FDS Disciple 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right. At 18 I was struggling to eat with a $25 food and transport budget at uni, not on a yacht eating strawberries.

[–]purasangriaFDS Disciple 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm stunning, and I've had shitty dating experiences on the whole. Men act entitled, are cheap, expect you to chase them, don't want you to have your own life, want to control you and your money....They're just not worth trying to date.

[–]FDS-GFYFDS Newbie[S] 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Google how goat farmers deal with young male goats. I think they’re onto something.

[–]kampamaneettiFDS Newbie 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A tldr;?

[–]FDS-GFYFDS Newbie[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Would rather not. You’ll see.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It felt and read like a mansplanning article?

[–]Sad_Performance9015 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't take any piece seriously where the first word itself needs some serious editing.

[–]KateJ1982FDS Newbie 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I skimmed, but it appears the data is taken exclusively from Tinder and Hinge. Which is lunacy because these are where people primarily to hookup, not for deep meaningful long term relationships. And so these Sherlocks have determined that men are willing to hookup with almost any woman (sometimes almost anyTHING), and the women on these apps are slightly more selective. Something common sense could have told them for free. I hope no taxpayer money was wasted on these inane studies.

Now why men are becoming increasingly low value and what could be done to motivate them to change this behaviour - that's a study that would benefit society.

[–]Equal-Ear2312FDS Apprentice 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

reported on the Gini coefficients he had found in his company’s abundant data, treating “likes” as the equivalent of income. He reported that heterosexual females faced a Gini coefficient of 0.324, while heterosexual males faced a much higher Gini coefficient of 0.542. So neither sex has complete equality: in both cases, there are some “wealthy” people with access to more romantic experiences and some “poor” who have access to few or none. But while the situation for women is something like an economy with some poor, some middle class, and some millionaires, the situation for men is closer to a world with a small number of super-billionaires surrounded by huge masses who possess almost nothing.

The bottom 80% men are at the bottom because the reality says they are not dateable. They do not embody the masculinity that they themselves worship. Guess what! No one is owed a date or a partner! It's also proof that "good men" are rare and not abundant. This is also reflected in a society's data on crime. How many crimes against women committed by men? The misogyny is in the details. There are only a handful of good and desirable men and 70% of women are flocking in that direction instead of looking at "dad bod 50-50 I'm on foodstamps, twice divorced with 18 children" Steven....

[–]ceramicunicornFDS Disciple 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Huh. I actually didn’t have a real problem with this article, and I love Quillette in general. It lays out the facts. I only take issue with the fatalistic tone, as if for men there is nothing to be done.

Here’s something to be done. Men actually do have more control in this situation than they claim. Stop prioritizing asserting dominance over having a healthy, equitable relationship. Recognize the inequities between male and female sexuality, and the imbalance of emotional work in relationships. Start seeing women as people, not potential packages of bundled services that can “do for” you, and have something to say about who she fucking IS on a dating app, not just that you looked at her photos and they made your rather indiscriminate penis twitch. Stop bitching out women for their reactions to the worst of men, and go bitch out the source of the problem- those men.

And of course, the usual leveling up with hygiene and grooming and finances and such.

There are still going to be women that want 6/6/6 and that can’t be changed, but there are plenty such as myself who would be perfectly content with a short king with an average salary and body, who sees me as a fucking human and recognizes he’s fortunate- not entitled- to have the benefits I offer him. There is literally nothing sexier to me than men who truly understand the harms of the patriarchy….because so few men have the balls to confront a system that benefits them, even when it harms the individuals they purport to want.

Most men pretend like this is asking for the world, and as such, shall struggle. If they choose dominance over the love of a woman, so be it. They can dig their own hole and when the dimensions are to their liking, put their penis inside it.

[–]masterofthebarkartsFDS STRATEGY COACH 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"We took one single measure of attractiveness from one dating app and extrapolated to all heterosexual dating activity" is a hell of an audacious bit of data analytics.

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