The hate campaign has already begun

Beneficial-Union-995 · 2022-04-03T15:20:19+00:00

It's FDS, did you really expect anything positive?

OctaviaPinfold · 2022-04-03T15:58:22+00:00

That's a regular day over there, they have a hate campaign for everything related to men

MrAragorn · 2022-04-03T16:13:49+00:00

Then why should you trust a woman when she says she’s on the pill. Have these people heard of double standards?

MehowSri · 2022-04-03T15:42:03+00:00

The projection from some women on this topic is unreal.

Well what suddenly makes you think so many people would lie about birth control, hmmmmmmm?

BNVLNTWRLDXPLDR · 2022-04-03T16:06:15+00:00

But I was repeatedly assured that people lying about being on birth control isn't a thing.

xcheshirecatxx · 2022-04-03T15:37:12+00:00

Don't they realize men can use BC and they still can use their own BC ?

CoolAiden49 · 2022-04-03T15:11:46+00:00

The third one is funny asf to me,”Zips up vagina and flies away on a broomstick..” what kind of- I don’t even know.

GivePuppiesBazookas · 2022-04-03T15:44:16+00:00

Kind of amazing, if there is ONE thing that is for JUST men that gives a great benefit to women, it's male BC. Yet it's attacked by women (spreading lies mind you) endlessly.

Many women do not want something to help men even if it benefits them. It's more important to them to not give men anything even over benefiting themselves. Fucking insanity.

Ok_Machine_681 · 2022-04-03T15:41:37+00:00

It is FDS. They are all fucked in the head.

Parking_Tangelo_798 · 2022-04-03T15:55:51+00:00

Well now you guys can relate to my post more https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/tnlxxs/please\_stop\_with\_the\_hate\_on\_male\_birth\_control/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3

JCgamerX · 2022-04-03T16:06:03+00:00

this is a good thing it means both men and women can control if they have kids meaning they both have a choice in preventing children

_GUEZO_ · 2022-04-03T15:42:38+00:00

Nothing says “I have severe mental health problems” like FDS.

Holy_Salsa · 2022-04-03T16:37:18+00:00

FDS causing men to prefer being single over being a slave... then they are butt hurt because no one wants to date them or stick around (their dads included i assume)

I long for the day where people stop drinking lead paint and antifreeze combo and society can actually be commended... until then, we have FDS... and this is why aliens wont talk to us

PFfounder · 2022-04-03T16:54:05+00:00

So... they're now experiencing what us men experienced for long.... AND THEY HATE IT
The hypocrisy.

ABeeBox · 2022-04-03T16:40:30+00:00

Damn, everything they said is the exact same thing [certain] women are already guilty of. Reverse the genders and they're validly applicable.

Here's the thing, I think there are less men who would be willing to "stealth" a.k.a lie about being on BC because there's a lot less to gain from it.

Women stealth rich men, famous men like athletes, just to get the child support. Others really want families and will "stealth" a guy for the sake of a child a.k.a baby trap.

Men don't get child support, maybe only 10% do and it's an incredibly expensive battle, exact same thing with child custody, men win less than 10% of court cases, even when the woman outside of law is visually unfit to take care of the child. In fact, if a man wins custody of the child, he has to pay alimony and support his child - wild.

Men aren't ever going to "stealth" (what a weird fucking term btw) as much as women are already "stealthing".

Tldr: men don't want children as much as women do. Women get child custody and child support as well as the biological desire for a child. Men will never lie about being on BC as much as women already are.

coffeeinvenice · 2022-04-03T16:34:09+00:00

These comments come from a set of programming that all health and/or birth control advancements are for women's benefit only. A male BC pill would primarily benefit men and allow them to avoid involuntary parenthood. Of course, a man taking a BC pill should continue to use condoms to avoid contracting an STD, unless they are in a long-term relationship where the likelihood of this (in their judgment) is remote to impossible. The people who are making these comments don't understand this.

OnThatSigmaGrindset · 2022-04-03T16:11:21+00:00

FDS is low hanging fruit, don't take those people seriously

Mr-Cali · 2022-04-03T16:25:51+00:00

“ stealthing stops being a part of male culture..”? That was a very bold statement

2022-04-03T16:56:46+00:00

Imagine having sex with someone you don't trust at all.

Vanhelsing2020 · 2022-04-03T22:42:54+00:00

Remember, when it benefits them it's "equality".

When it threatens any advantages they have over men, it's "oppressive"

human-potato_hybrid · 2022-04-03T16:24:46+00:00

"Nightmare of dealing with a guy who says he's on the pill and insists on not using a condom"

r/SelfAwarewolves

HeartofStihl · 2022-04-03T20:05:31+00:00

I know when I was 20 all I wanted was to get a woman pregnant and not just have sex.

They just resent what a male birth control pill represents: male power over reproduction. If female oral contraceptives caused the birth rate to decline, just watch what happen when men can control their own reproductive destiny.

peanutbutterjams · 2022-04-04T03:52:00+00:00

This is FDS. It's a hate sub. No matter the issue, they're going to say bigoted things about men.

Tellingly, /r/AgainstHateSubreddits only cares about their 'transphobia' and steadfastly refuses to acknowledge their misandry. (Probably because the mods refuse to acknowledge that misandry exists.)

FDS is just more explicit about it than TwoX or AskFeminists, where people demonize men on a daily basis.

I guess you could say the latter subs disseminates hate while FDS actively engages in hate.

Reddit has shut down subs for FAR less than what's in OP. However, when the hate is about white men it gets a pass. That's an admin talking in the linked pic, saying exactly that.

Reddit is a hate site. Even by classic liberal values and most rules of human decency, Reddit is a hate site.

That's how explicit the allowable hate against men is here.

Personally I think this sub should institute a rule against demonizing women so that we don't follow the pattern than feminism has set in dehumanizing an entire gender on the basis of social politics being played and amplified by a relatively few grifters (and the obvious corporate backing).

But even this sub pales to what is claimed about men en masse on a daily basis in Twox, AskFeminists, TrollX and the many other feminist- or female-focused subreddits that exist on Reddit.

You could take all the demonization and hate in this sub and stack it against all the demonization and hate in any of those subs and it would be comparing apples to orange trees.

Even the worst of the people here don't consider women as defective men and yet 'Men Are Defective Women' appears to be an axiom of modern feminism.

That's why it's so important to have a rule against demonization here.

It's how hate disseminates and propagates.

It's generalizing about people behind their backs; it's gossip.

It's the Feminist Way, and I couldn't be less interested about continuing in their direction.

MrPaineUTI · 2022-04-03T16:52:20+00:00

Waiting for the huffpost article about something something patriarchy....

skellious · 2022-04-03T17:08:44+00:00

oh FFS.

My whole life I've been asking for contraceptive pills for us, I CAN'T WAIT to use them. I'll be taking them even though I don't have a partner or regular hookups.

Why the hell would any man want to NOT take them (apart from finance reasons) when such terrible penalties exist for getting someone pregnant?

capitan_cruiser · 2022-04-03T17:44:07+00:00

When I see a post about FDS I always get flashbacks to incels, they are basically the female equivalent of incels and then I think holy hell am I happy I didn't get sucked into that incel echo chamber back when I was a young and impressionable stupid teenager.

FactsArentHate · 2022-04-03T19:11:11+00:00

I love how almost all women demand men trust THEM with hormonal BC, but then call it hateful for men to demand the reverse.

glutenfreeSoyFree · 2022-04-03T21:50:01+00:00

“Femcel” dating strategy

vicsj · 2022-04-03T21:55:34+00:00

Ironically enough visiting FDS is a great motivator to take contraceptives.

InformalCriticism · 2022-04-03T16:15:50+00:00

There's zero upside to getting a woman pregnant; do they really think men want a pregnant woman who doesn't want to be pregnant? I'm usually pretty good at seeing others' sides, but the logic just isn't there.

anoncitizen4 · 2022-04-03T16:49:18+00:00

Does anyone else remember the male birth control study that was done like 5 or 6 years ago and was stopped because of the side-effects? Feminist lost their shit because men had the audacity to complain about side-effects when they have to deal with birth control side-effects. Now they are complaining that there might be a male birth control!? There's no pleasing them.

chubbsfordubs · 2022-04-03T16:59:44+00:00

FDS is a cesspool of fat, unattractive, blue hair femcels that larp like they’re gods gift to humanity.

Futuredanish · 2022-04-03T16:10:58+00:00

These aren't women who date men, just TERFs larping.

neverXmiss · 2022-04-03T16:34:57+00:00

Why do you bother with fds though? Only one type person subscribes to that: crazy.

The same kind of crazy most guys avoid.

bumbuff · 2022-04-03T17:21:43+00:00

I like the assumption that guys wouldn't take BC. We're the ones on the hook financially for our entire lives.

But any smart guy would still use a condom. Nothing like a crazy ex inverting a condom to get pregnant to lock you in.

kiaeej · 2022-04-03T17:22:32+00:00

Lol! So…all the women who lie about being on the pill then baby trap men? Is…what? Acceptable?

donthatemeloljoke · 2022-04-03T15:49:18+00:00

Virginity, 0% chance of babies, doesn't mess with your hormones. Condoms, ≈1% chance of babies, doesn't mess with your hormones

TraehNoil · 2022-04-03T16:57:16+00:00

Lol it’s so funny, now that the ball might not be in their court, they’re bringing up all the points men are currently bringing up. Fuckin love it!

wwwhistler · 2022-04-03T18:33:17+00:00

not sure whats worse, the hypocrisy....or the irony.

Flashy-Category-8069 · 2022-04-03T19:53:43+00:00

Lmao they say men r untrustworthy when women don’t take their birth control without telling their SO all the time. Also as a woman that takes birth control (need the hormones for medical reasons) it gives me real bad cramps and stabbing sensations in my ovaries. I don’t get y woman even take the pill and j certainly don’t want anyone else to go through that pain

Libidomy94 · 2022-04-03T20:14:39+00:00

Lol those miserable slugs probably don’t need to worry about it- the normal women and normal men are going to continue dating each other, and they will continue looking in from the outside and be offended by it.

chrisdidwht · 2022-04-03T20:42:03+00:00

The only reason they are mad is because they lost what made them powerful. No more baby trapping. No more lying about birth control. No more scaring men into doing whatever they want. Its over. Thank god its over.

variousfruits13 · 2022-04-03T21:28:46+00:00

The person with the boyfriend who wanted to stop wearing condoms:

Congratulations on hating your bf and being selfish I guess?idk. Yall weird bro.

MrUncannyIncredible · 2022-04-03T21:30:09+00:00

Female down syndrome

vhisic · 2022-04-03T21:41:09+00:00

i love how they think this is the first time these worries have ever been had as if it wasnt something we had to question the entire time.

The shoe has literally been put on the other foot and they are not happy about it. Welcome to being the ones in charge, this is EXACTLY what they were asking for.

Underscore_gt · 2022-04-03T22:02:08+00:00

Lol you just can’t win with them. They scoff at the notion of female BC(insert some bs about patriarchy) and scream their heads off in favor of male BC. Then when the time finally comes…..they are against it.

And the only reason they are against is because they realize it takes away power and control from them. Down the line when it’s proven male bc has no long term effects and is just as safe as female bc, I wouldn’t be surprised when most men opt for male bc than a condom. Because it’s true that condoms sometimes make it hard to climax from sensation. (Back to the power argument)…..so when they see that men now have direct control over if she gets pregnant or not, they scatter like roaches to find some way to reverse it.

Graffles · 2022-04-03T22:39:34+00:00

You know who I thinks gonna be a huge fan of this male celebrities.

Look up Drakes hot sauce story, though he might still do that for the laughs.

ChaosOpen · 2022-04-03T23:04:15+00:00

Girls take all of the sketchy shit they do and just assume guys will sink to their level.

Soda_BoBomb · 2022-04-04T00:23:54+00:00

I've heard women act like it's so hard on them that they have to be the ones who use birth control and how it's not fair that men don't do it and that it's somehow sexist that there isn't any. They don't want to hear about how much more funding goes into women's health research either, they just want to blame men for "not being willing to deal with the side effects." And also don't want to hear about how until recently all attempts at male birth control pills led to unacceptable side effects. Like cancer and infertility. They pretend that men see a side effect like headaches and then somehow collectively convinced the entire world not to make any of it available.

Bow that there actually might be a pill, suddenly it's, "oh no, not letting men have more control over their own bodies! How will we bitch about Birth Control now, or trap men into giving us children! Or pretend that we're some sort of poor oppressed class, forced to endure the burden of birth control and child bearing"

zklpr · 2022-04-04T00:31:01+00:00

Considering everyone on that subreddit is the female equivalent of an incel, I wouldn't take them too seriously. They're a very vocal minority.

RabbitFromBrazil · 2022-04-04T00:49:53+00:00

So they are ignoring that in most cases it is women who try to force pregnancy?

jsutforthis2 · 2022-04-04T03:11:16+00:00

They are threatened by us because this is power. A man can be on the pill and sleep with hundreds of women without risking having children. It ends the belief that "we owe them" something after sleeping with them.

needalife94 · 2022-04-04T03:20:27+00:00

Wow so women fear that men would lie about taking birth control to get them pregnant ? But if I don't trust that a women is on birth control or taking the morning after pill so she can baby trap me , i'm just an asshole ? Got it. 👍

BrotherZael · 2022-04-04T05:41:28+00:00

Thank god I don’t trust women who take birth control either because, news flash, they forget to take it all the time. Half my friend group is girls and they always be forgetting to take that shit. Just wrap it up anyways and always unless they’re your long time partner. That’s just my outlook on things at least.

LorekeeperJamin · 2022-04-04T14:32:40+00:00

None of these women seem to understand that good relationships are built on trust. Furthermore, if proof is such a big deal to them, they could just ask to see the bottle/box to see if the guy had actually been taking the pills.

Even then, spermicide is always still an option. It wouldn't be as effective as it would be in combination with a condom, but it'd be something.

At the end of the day, tho. It's about trust, and if you can't trust your partner, then the relationship is over. I wouldn't trust any of these people.

AngeloCorr99 · 2022-04-04T15:43:55+00:00

Alright, to be fair, I'm learning in my college sex Ed class that no matter what birth control you use, it's not 100% effective, so even if both you AND her are on the pill, you should still wear a condom if 1) you want to be extra sure 2) you want to avoid stds, which the pill cannot protect against

But these women haven't mentioned either of these things. They just talk about not trusting men. Like?!?!?!

Edit: it also ignores the fact that a woman could be lying about being on the pill just as easily, and men are expected to believe them!

TendieDinner777 · 2022-04-03T16:46:30+00:00

I don’t understand the problem…are men who currently have sex with women on birth control not expected to trust her adherence to the daily dose?

What is it about male birth control that’s fundamentally different in terms of how it affects your partner?

3-10 · 2022-04-03T16:20:39+00:00

If they use FDS, they are future inspins.

InAJam_SoS · 2022-04-03T17:09:56+00:00

As this option becomes more and more viable be on the lookout for these campaigns. I'm sure many groups and possibly states will hire PR firms to develop scare tactics and place more wedges issues between men and women to make male birth control non- viable.

You see, the states have a very large financial stake in males NOT having unmitigated control of their reproductive rights. It's called Title IV-D funding. This video really helped me understand so much. And yes, I know about condoms and abstinence. Blah, blah. Most know the tricks involved so I won't address that. I'll just say it's a big payday for states, parents (mostly mothers), and of course attorneys, for there to be a child and a parent (mostly fathers) separated from their child. Major financial incentives exist for parents (mostly mothers) and attorneys for one parent to retain 'physical custody' of a child more than the other parent. This is reason for UNequal shared parenting in family courts as it's the largest factor in determining the amount of child support that must be provided. If a father is not married it's just as difficult, if not harder to be involved in the child's life in any meaningful way. Moreover, there's zero accountability of how the funds you must provide the other parent for the child are spent. Follow the free money:

Each state gets free money (Grants) from the federal government. States must have a justification for a "child support enforcement" program because of all the 'deadbeat dads'. That's another claim that can't be addressed now. But I challenge anyone to find legitimate numbers on this. Please share if you do.

To find out the amount of the GRANT for your state's Title IV-D funding, go to: www.taggs.hhs.gov Tracking Accountability in Government Grants System

SEARCH -> ADVANCED SEARCH

to the left (ISSUE DATE FY) check box 2021 (for last year's figures)

Below that you'll see: OPDIV and Program Office -Check 1st box: ACF 4) To the right you'll see: ASSISTANCE LISTINGS (CFDA) check boxes: 93563 & 93564

Go down a bit and to the left you'll see: LEGAL ENITIY STATE: Check box your state

Search

Report Total will tell you how much your state received. Then they receive reimbursement as well a nice little bonus. Source for all of this:

Web search for Title IV-D funding by State

I try to share this far and wide.

To be clear no one is advocating for parents to NOT be responsible and provide for their children. When you understand the amount of money and incentive there is for the players involved you will understand why it's in their best interest keep male reproductive rights off the table. Its more profitable to simply rely on mother nature, economic disparity, greedy attorneys, and a corrupt system to take their course.

MillionWilliam · 2022-04-03T17:21:58+00:00

Can someone make a Male Dating Strategy that only takes what FDS posts and flips the gendered language? Let’s see how fast it gets banned!

straightupstevo · 2022-04-03T16:58:44+00:00

Lol just out of curiosity I went through the post history of five random accounts that had posted in FDS. All five were broads in their 40s that had been commenting on FDS for over a year. They're all bitter Karens scorned because no one wants them.

ABeeBox · 2022-04-03T16:45:21+00:00

FDS is just the female counter part to Incels.

AgentOrangeMRA · 2022-04-03T16:26:57+00:00

If birth control is truly an individual choice and they want to protect themselves, then they need to be on it. And condoms are just common sense, birth control or not, for assisting in mitigation of STDs.

Decent-Product · 2022-04-03T16:47:39+00:00

Well… they’re not wrong. I don’t trust the other party either.

OzzyGeelv99 · 2022-04-03T17:04:59+00:00

Yeah, cause the one thing everyone wants is for absolutely no difference to take place if a man takes this BC. Those comments make absolute sense /s

Cold_Conversation_51 · 2022-04-03T17:16:49+00:00

I'm confused. Didn't they want us to start taking BC so that they could stop and call us wimps for not doing so?

Doogle89 · 2022-04-03T17:41:18+00:00

Lol none of these morons are getting dick

Sulphri · 2022-04-03T17:57:53+00:00

“Scrote” lmao

Awkward-Palpitation5 · 2022-04-03T18:36:20+00:00

It is laughable coming from a group of women who’s main hobby is drinking wine by the box full. Ain’t no way any sane bloke is putting his dick near any of those women.

Far-Hope-6186 · 2022-04-03T18:47:57+00:00

The pills not even out yet so what's the problem.

FlatTire2005 · 2022-04-03T18:59:10+00:00

Soooo taking the pill is pointless, then? They’ll simply not believe you.

Those women will only have complete losers as significant others, or be alone. But they’re incels, so they’ll be “happy” being alone. It gives them reason to hate men.

DecimatingDarkDeceit · 2022-04-03T19:24:22+00:00

These despicable people's entire nefarious purpose is clear: These vile leeches want have almost complete control over men; which they clearly see as serfs/serviles/servants/second class pleabeans

Easywormet · 2022-04-03T20:03:06+00:00

And of course it's on the number one Femcel sub....can't say I'm surprised.

banana_spectacled · 2022-04-03T20:10:06+00:00

My main issue with that subreddit is that they call man “scrotes.” Like imagine we started calling women “slits.” Men would be crucified.

poppin_a_pilly · 2022-04-03T20:18:37+00:00

The sad part is that if they gave it any thought at all. Why would men lie abt being on birth control. There's no perks for getting a woman pregnant. But many perks to getting pregnant

2022-04-03T20:23:16+00:00

They've discovered that entrapment can go both ways now.

portojohn2020 · 2022-04-03T20:37:13+00:00

I have no idea what this post is even trying to say at all lmao what hate has begun?? I mean besides me starting to hate you

Yepyepyupyups · 2022-04-03T20:57:00+00:00

Huh? The fuck did I just read?

Fishscale247 · 2022-04-03T20:59:25+00:00

Like men would lie about taking it then to have child maintenance payments forever they will take this so they cover themselves from that

randomravioli · 2022-04-03T22:14:43+00:00

Mensrights complaining about fds.. what level of irony are we on?

Theo_Stormchaser · 2022-04-03T22:17:50+00:00

FDS is such trash. If ever there was a ‘black flag’ in dating that is just an instant no, it would be even reading the posts there.

lolzsupbrah · 2022-04-03T22:27:21+00:00

Is stealthing part of male culture? Are they making up things?

jinladen040 · 2022-04-03T22:28:32+00:00

We exist because FDS exists. It's the natural order of things. FDS is an invasive species and we're to eradicate them.

GettingItOverWith · 2022-04-03T22:55:16+00:00

Can we stop hating each other? Nobody acts like this face to face.

Chinny_YT · 2022-04-03T23:22:52+00:00

but what about how those people were saying how its unfair for them to take birth control and how men shouLd? HUH

Violet_Murderer · 2022-04-03T23:41:51+00:00

It's fds, thats where all the extremists hang out. Plenty of women are excited and happy they don't need to get their hormones fucked and bare the burden of being on birthcontrol. How anyone can see this as anything but positive is dumb.

justlurkingmate · 2022-04-03T23:46:00+00:00

It's the crazy cat lady sub. Ignore.

Puzzleheaded-Heat174 · 2022-04-04T00:11:12+00:00

Wow massive double standards here these are the same women who will say to men that you should trust a woman who says they are on the pill but now that the roles are reversed its "I don't know if I can trust him" even though he has ever thing to lose if he actually does lie because the courts are completely biased against men and even if that wasn't the case you can still get an abortion what's the big fucking deal?

iamadrunk_scumbag · 2022-04-04T00:19:39+00:00

Not sure what the strategy is on that sub. No one is falling for anything said there.

yaboidre23 · 2022-04-04T00:20:03+00:00

Lmao the irony of the FDS comments tells me nothing is going to change

Pack15_ · 2022-04-04T00:22:54+00:00

They can take birthcontrol and we can't? Man I thought people would stop with this bs by now

ImJustHereForCorn · 2022-04-04T00:44:12+00:00

Male BC is so bad though with horrible side effects from depression to thoughts of suicide to even 2 test subject actually killing themselves because they had gone sterile because of it. Male BC is horribly unstable and untrustworthy at this point in time.

heeroena · 2022-04-04T01:09:12+00:00

the projection is strong in that subreddit. females have no problems with cognitive dissonance whatsoever. it is both enraging and mindblowing at the same time.

Archey01 · 2022-04-04T01:16:24+00:00

Its amazing that every FDS post you ever see has negative IQ takes like these.

Greg_W_Allan · 2022-04-04T02:06:03+00:00

With all the projection going on in that place it should be harnessed as an energy source akin to anti gravity.

Defiant-Mushroom8280 · 2022-04-04T02:18:21+00:00

I wouldn't worry to much about what psychopaths have to say.

StandardMode9 · 2022-04-04T02:52:52+00:00

How can any rational person be against a male birth control pill? I'd still use condoms. The pill would be another layer of protection.

UbiquitousWobbegong · 2022-04-04T03:15:46+00:00

Please don't assume femaledatingstrategy represents the average girl you're going to meet in real life. They're a minority of crazy people. If you asked most women if they'd like for a male birth control pill to be available, I bet you they'd say yes, if only to be doubly safe when not using condoms.

MarcVincent888 · 2022-04-04T03:37:17+00:00

Would you really be wanting to sleep with an FDS?

maverick3681 · 2022-04-04T03:46:57+00:00

Dunno why any sane mane would go to fds. It's absolutely the lowest tier of humanity (well maybe not the lowest but pretty close). Those women are literally insane.

xTheVyrusx · 2022-04-04T05:09:12+00:00

This really burns them hard because now that men have control of their own destiny they will in fact 100% die alone in their shitty apartments while their 3 cats feast on their bodies.

Wubalubadubdubbiatch · 2022-04-04T05:57:58+00:00

It's manipulative for a boyfriend to ask not to use a condom if it causes him to have a hard time achieving an orgasm but if you can't pound a girl for an hour because women can't have orgasms as easily it's you underperforming

z3m0s · 2022-04-04T07:00:22+00:00

Wtf is stealthing?

DannyLovesDachshunds · 2022-04-04T07:08:24+00:00

I hate that these people can get away with being super sexist. Men deserve to have control over their own bodies too.

Aniik13 · 2022-04-04T07:15:00+00:00

"I don't trust them to take it." ""Don't worry, I'm on the pill"" Someone's not happy that their strategies can be used against them

Explorer_Of_Infinity · 2022-04-04T09:29:52+00:00

Yuck. Thats all i have to say, because im too shocked to say anything else.

mraryion · 2022-04-04T12:03:26+00:00

I swear I live by a motto, any female I meet if I find she is part of FDS in any way...I'm out, no questions asked

Sorry but I don't play hypocrisy and idiocy all in one card, every post I see about them is enough to make you question how we as a species has even survived this long

Seawolf40 · 2022-04-04T13:31:39+00:00

“I want them to take it but I don’t trust that they would.”

“Until stealthing stops being a part of [female] culture, I wouldn’t trust any [woman] to reliably take a pill form of birth control.”

Them: “I swear I’m on birth control! I took it this morning. I promise!”

“Side effects aside, I can only imagine the nightmare of dealing with a [chick] that’s supposedly on the pill and [her] insistence on not using a condom.”

“I’d never trust a [woman] who told me [she’d] taken birth control.”

Sound familiar, gentlemen?

Oh, the irony.

jesuswashere1989 · 2022-04-04T14:35:13+00:00

Lol I like when they think any of there crazy dumb ideas will somehow make us change or in this case give up or ability to make children just because they don't trust us .

allCuntsStink · 2022-04-04T14:59:33+00:00

If there’s a gender that does not want any fucking kids, it’s us. Trust me I will take that fucking pill on time, I’ll beat my alarm to it and shit.

A_GIANT_PAIN_AGP · 2022-04-04T16:19:41+00:00

Love how they fear us forgetting to take it or just upright lying about it. Men have been dealing with that fear ever since the pill became commonplace. Regardless, fearing your partner forgot the pill or them lying about it regardless if it's female or when there is a male version, it wouldn't be unreasonable.

Bi_1991 · 2022-04-09T21:30:10+00:00

Glad I’m gay

dr_pepper02 · 2022-04-17T21:05:51+00:00

Well that’s to be expected, they don’t trust men because they know women consistently lie about birth control, second what advantage would their be for men to lie about it to get a woman pregnant?

There’s already men paying for children not their’s.

NonnyNu · 2022-04-03T17:01:24+00:00

It’s sad that there needs to be dating strategies now. I’d rather be alone. (Woman here.)

thatreddituser24 · 2022-04-03T18:37:27+00:00

Bruh my baby mama told me she was on birth control and was lying the whole time this is a common thing for some women they been doing it for a while so why they scared now to be on the receiving end

MyBlades · 2022-04-03T19:40:01+00:00

Give them the hormones...

What hormones? Men don't a have monthly hormonal cycle that causes them to stop producing sperm. It's amazing how upset women get when men have misconception about female anatomy, but then they will say shit like that.

AssistantSingle7238 · 2022-04-03T19:58:51+00:00

How is that forum allowed to continue?

Ocedei · 2022-04-03T19:58:55+00:00

Isn't telling that their first thought is that men will lie about being up BC. It is almost like they have lied about being on BC before.

TesticalDefibrillate · 2022-04-03T17:07:06+00:00

https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/femaledatingstrategy

NeoNotNeo · 2022-04-03T19:07:16+00:00

The biggest fear is that slaves escape

sohumm · 2022-04-03T17:25:00+00:00

FDS is still not banned just because they do not blame or use direct slurs towards men. But r/marriageisnotworthit etc. does. That is why we got banned. I hope, we do that too instead of blaming them, let us focus on the problem in hand and discuss only that.

If this sub gets banned too... I would call "that's it" and leave this Reddit altogether. But, to keep this sub at least alive with out banning -

Do not blame any woman. Just don't. But, find fault with "their" practice with out slurs or cuss words
Discuss the problems men face. That's it. Let us not point out towards any women.
The solutions should never involve women. and, for everything there is a way to say it nicely. For example: Almost most of the marriages involve women (I don't mean to hurt other genders. My apologies if I did unintentionally). If you have to say, "Let us not marry any women. They would not be able to get alimony then". Just say, "avoid marriage". That's it.
I am sure FDS will flourish more because we know the reasons. But, SUBSCRIBE TO THAT SUB, AND LEARN WHAT HAS BEEN SPOKEN THERE. TAKE ACTIONS ON YOUR OWN IF YOU WANT TO DATE OR NOT. You can't just share their post here and rant about it. Do not RANT. But, discuss in healthy words.
Kindly add if you feel I missed any points.

thepokemonGOAT · 2022-04-03T18:23:12+00:00

Guys, you really need to stop thinking that the most psycho 0.0001% of women on Twitter are representative of real life. Ask some women in real life and they’ll tell you how exciting the male birth control pill is for both men’s comfort and women’s peace of mind during sex. You should never 100% trust a stranger regardless. I would still use a condom with a girl who told me she was on the pill, unless I knew her extremely well. A woman should probably do the same with me if she doesn’t know me and I tell her I’m on the male pill. That’s just being cautious, and it’s very normal. Y’all want to be oppressed SO bad that you have to dig through the sewers of Reddit to find a handful of comments that paint your worldview where women hate men and get together online to laugh at their struggles… it just ain’t real.

wrathofroc · 2022-04-03T16:56:23+00:00

You could just get married and have unprotected sex with your wife

You know, like the way things used to be

MariaSabinaaa · 2022-04-03T18:43:23+00:00

Compared to most of the comment threads that one is pretty reasonable albeit snarky. Like I would be hesitant to trust a man that insists he is on the pill and wants to have sex without a condom. Not a crazy skepticism to have.

Mother-Key582 · 2022-04-03T16:34:36+00:00

Seriously why do they even have sex at all these nobs? Just buy a dildo and F off lol

2022-04-03T17:54:27+00:00

Doesn't want to be called bitch

Calls men "scrotes"

Wax_Man_ · 2022-04-03T17:55:36+00:00

Why are those comments so ironic?

Truthfully the men have all the incentives to use birth control. I don't trust ANY woman that said she's on BC. I'm old and married with kids so I don't have to worry anymore, but you young guys..... WRAP IT THE FUCK UP! Don't trust a woman that says she's on BC. Triflin' bxtches will do anything to trap you to get a paycheque.

ExMuzzy · 2022-04-03T18:36:04+00:00

Are men forcing them to take the hormonal pills? Don’t women have agency or take their own bc to prevent pregnancy?

I also saw some divvy saying give men a hormonal pill, which isn’t how it works lol

Also I would mainly take it for my own peace of mind in case someone “forgets”

Mythandros · 2022-04-03T15:47:12+00:00

Please don't post shit from any feminist subs here. It's ALWAYS negative and misandrist.

We know how they think and talk already. We don't need you adding visibility to their hate.

Let them stew in their own hate, I don't want to see it or them.

Please delete your post.

Fun-Ad435 · 2022-04-03T16:54:52+00:00

It's always a wild ride over on FDS.

SOwED · 2022-04-03T18:11:55+00:00

Who cares? This only matters for hookups. For couples who aren't looking to have kids, it makes sense. Some women have pretty severe mood effects from hormonal birth control, so male birth control still is a great option we'll have in the future.

cocacolauser · 2022-04-03T18:18:58+00:00

What are male birth control pills? And how do they work?

riot_ball · 2022-04-03T18:19:34+00:00

Op, you put shit in your mouth. What did you expect?

Loumier · 2022-04-03T18:20:55+00:00

Strange. At least in my country the feminist have been asking for a birth control pill for men.

GamesUnit · 2022-04-03T18:21:53+00:00

What's wrong with a male BCD

C-Dub178 · 2022-04-03T18:22:43+00:00

More projection than a goddamn imax

liltigerminx · 2022-04-03T18:23:33+00:00

Ah yes, the consequences of an echo chamber

IanVector · 2022-04-03T18:25:09+00:00

Nobody would need to take any pills if people would just stop having sex. It’s as simple as that.

III1111IIII1 · 2022-04-03T19:03:20+00:00

It's fds lmao, I would be more surprised if there wasn't a hate thread made. The only part of that thread that I think is not unreasonable is when they said they couldn't trust a guy to take birth control. I only say that because I personally don't think that I could trust a woman's word that she is on birth control either, I am really hoping that male birth control with come out very soon because it's a peace of mind that would only be achievable normally by getting a vasectomy and while vasectomies are probably better it's something that most won't be able to afford. I hope the male birth control is cheap and OTC because if you can only get it by getting a script from a doctor it's worthless to even release to the public. No one has the minimum 300-400$ to go see a doctor whenever they want lmao.

idontevenlift37 · 2022-04-03T19:18:23+00:00

I love how with them, the idea of only sleeping with men that they actually trust is just out of the question. Guess they have no control over who they open their legs up for.

shamblam117 · 2022-04-03T19:27:17+00:00

Why does FDS get to just spew crap like this? At what point is it considered "hate."

nooneinteresting-1 · 2022-04-03T19:36:34+00:00

Something positive for men, women most affected...

AnalystFormer9448 · 2022-04-03T19:37:49+00:00

FDS solutions for men.

solution 1: Birth control.

Solution 2: destroy all men and women who don't agree with us.

future Solution: Off with their balls.

benamiark · 2022-04-03T19:41:21+00:00

What are they saying?

OrokanaKiti · 2022-04-03T19:42:37+00:00

the pill: part two; we now get the same thing they have given... jez

johnwayne1 · 2022-04-03T19:43:14+00:00

I wonder how many poor desperate men are willing to date people from that site? They need to say single.

Tweapodok33 · 2022-04-03T19:45:25+00:00

It's both funny and sad how the irony sails a mile over their collective heads.

gypsy-fucker · 2022-04-03T19:53:12+00:00

It's ironic.

Uphillporpoise · 2022-04-03T20:18:20+00:00

What do they want? Do they want us to take it or not take it?

Drewbus · 2022-04-03T20:19:34+00:00

I don't even know why this is a discussion when Vasalgel exists

TheFakestOfBricks · 2022-04-03T20:24:54+00:00

That entire sub is a complete dumpster fire lmao

jaxx050 · 2022-04-03T21:57:48+00:00

🙄

djinthesmokys · 2022-04-04T00:16:29+00:00

Anyone care to actually discuss the MBCP?

CameronBinder · 2022-04-04T00:41:33+00:00

That steakhouse post at the top there now is about the saddest shit I have ever seen

2022-04-04T00:48:35+00:00

My exbf had no issues finishing when wrapped up. Echo chambers living in an echo chamber lol.

blaizken_420 · 2022-04-04T04:03:06+00:00

Damn they're mad!

Pebo1 · 2022-04-04T04:10:36+00:00

What they do not get is that men will take it without hesitation. No longer are the days where a gold digger gets pregnant and take most of the man's income, prevents him from seeing his kids, and ruin his life. So the delusion is that men would fake taking it. This is going to liberate men.

Sewblon · 2022-04-04T04:17:54+00:00

I would be interested to know why that one poster doesn't think that taking a male BC pill and going condom-less would help with sensation. I am a virgin. So I wouldn't know. Also, if you don't trust someone to take the pill, then dating them is a bad idea. What hormones do they think that men should be given exactly?

allmyghtt · 2022-04-04T04:22:27+00:00

Oh boy so I just went there to read some of the comments and omfg that's is some fucked up sexist echo chamber holyshit

mind blown that people could be that openly sexist and disgusting..

thejosecorte · 2022-04-04T04:35:32+00:00

They are basically talking about themselves. They know they lie about the pill all the fucking time, so it's not even feasible for them that men won't do the same.

Grow_peace_in_Bedlam · 2022-04-04T04:50:00+00:00

What's all this talk of "not trusting" a man to take it? Even if a man is not of the highest moral character, can't those FDSers see that the high cost of child support for a one-night stand would be sufficient motivation for even a man driven purely by self-interest to take it religiously?

Okay, let's assume that they are attributing it to malice rather than stupidity; do they really think that men are uniquely forgetful, especially about something so important? It seems to me that they've been watching too many dumb-dad sitcoms of the past 30 years and come to believe that's actually how men are as a whole.

I'm glad I don't have to worry about this shit because I'm married, but I'm amazed at how those FDSers talk about not trusting men to take it and never realizing that that's exactly how men feel about the situation as it currently stands.

dungeonmonkey69 · 2022-04-04T04:50:09+00:00

Lol #hoesmad

Wubalubadubdubbiatch · 2022-04-04T05:40:05+00:00

Scrote? I'm no polite person but what makes me sick to my stomach is that these same people would lose it if I say I was dating a puss, and I'm afraid of the reddit gods to even type the other word for women's private parts

onthegoyoyo · 2022-04-04T05:40:19+00:00

It’s honestly sad how we get shitted on. Keep ya head up fellas

JayMeadows · 2022-04-04T05:54:19+00:00

Y'all bimbos are crazy.

YUPitsME_RICK · 2022-04-04T06:03:48+00:00

petition to ban post from fds. those literally are a bunch of hypocrites and misandrists. and the fact that the subreddit isnt banned is just dis heartning

2022-04-04T06:16:46+00:00

As if men can give birth.

XDeathBringer1 · 2022-04-04T06:43:32+00:00

Can I have a written medical document of her tubes tied? no then shut up

onyxia17 · 2022-04-04T07:35:12+00:00

Replacing male hormones to suppress LH and FSH is literally a steroid cycle, and the consequence of replacing primary male hormones has absurdly more potential side effects than replacing primarily female hormones. It literally only takes a first year med student to see how absurdly stupid the concept of a male birth control pill is.

WolfeBane84 · 2022-04-04T08:00:16+00:00

What’s their issue with this? Is it “ well we can’t entrap men anymore now”

WanabeInflatable · 2022-04-04T08:18:40+00:00

Actually, it's still wise to use barrier contraception because HIV, herpes antibiotic resistant gonorrhea are not much better than unwanted pregnancy.

WarHorse4563 · 2022-04-04T11:24:42+00:00

“(zips up vagina and flies away on broomstick so I don’t have to hear these lies)” at least she had the curtesy to keep it closed for the sake of humanity

ap0c0lyps3 · 2022-04-04T12:43:34+00:00

Sooo... When they come out with a pill that does it permanently and women just start dosing men... They're gonna see it as a good thing! Population control for the elites!

auMatech · 2022-04-04T12:57:56+00:00

Feminists: women have to shoulder all the side effect of birth control, it's not fair!! Men should have to as well!!

Also feminists: I'd never trust a man to take it!! Men should suffer from hormonal pills just like women have for years!! But I couldn't be sure they took it!!

Sheer. Fucking. Lunacy.

Also, FDS.. nuff said

Mecami · 2022-04-04T13:08:30+00:00

I remember when FDS first started out. It was about 50/50 satire and serious. Now they’re actually 100% serious. They’re basically the equivalent of r/MGTOW if actually not worse tbh. But you know, misandry is ok because reasons. It’s not like men have to go thru so much emotionally already in society compared to women generally speaking.

power_forward87 · 2022-04-04T13:18:45+00:00

Lost all credibility at “ex boyfriend of 3 months”(Tinder). But seriously, how is that manipulation?? FDS really stands for Fucking Delusional Singles

iamth3on3 · 2022-04-04T14:27:58+00:00

fds is a cult.

AnalystFormer9448 · 2022-04-06T19:31:47+00:00

Ain’t no damn ladies gonna make me take birth control.

2022-04-20T18:02:30+00:00

Ok but stealthing is a real problem? And if some men don’t trust some women to take the pill daily then why is the reverse misandry?

Theapexfighter · 2022-04-24T14:37:04+00:00

FDS is sure making a poor job at what their name suggests.

MyFavoriteDinoSpino · 2022-04-28T15:03:17+00:00

What is wrong with being scared that men will make them pregnant by not taking the pill? That is a legit fear. A man could make a woman pregnant every day . A woman can only get pregnant 1 time every 9 months. And people still die giving birth.

dvali · 2022-04-03T20:18:13+00:00

As toxic as that place is, let's be honest with ourselves here. A LOT of guys will do exactly what they're saying.

david455678 · 2022-04-04T08:35:32+00:00

I don't understand the discussion, when you don't want children then just use condoms

Title	The hate campaign has already begun
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