This is the most popular post ever made on r/feminism. The ten thousand people who upvoted this before it was locked share the belief that every agenda and belief you may have that isn't theirs is wrong.

evenmoremeancomments · 2019-09-26T06:49:18+00:00

I mean, feminists are already calling me sexist for being an MRA and not believing their propaganda. At least give me a cookie every time you do for a change

BlueOrange22 · 2019-09-26T07:11:03+00:00

But at the same time, they get to decide that men shouldn't have their own movement to address their own issues.

Raspu101 · 2019-09-26T07:51:17+00:00

It's like on Joe Rogan, I believe it was Bill Burr who said, they don't want equality. They want to take over the fucking world

neoalfa · 2019-09-26T08:10:28+00:00

But I agree, even though for entirely different reasons. If anyone called themselves a feminist to my face, I'd think they are either virtue-signaling morons or mysandrists in disguise.

Normal, sane people who think that humans have equal rights and dignity don't call themselves feminists.

So, yeah, I'm on board with this. Either you you are normal, or you are sexist.

Stop hiding behind the feminist lablel.

JohnPettimore · 2019-09-26T06:16:04+00:00

Cool. Sign me up as sexist then.

huxepenner · 2019-09-26T08:27:45+00:00

Guess I'm a sexist then. And all my family and friends are sexist too.

All that's going to happen is if the definition of "sexist" is diluted so much and applies to like 95% of the population it will lose all meaning.

aussietoads · 2019-09-26T07:21:11+00:00

Well colour me sexist, I don't care, but feminist I will never be.

jacksleepshere · 2019-09-26T09:08:57+00:00

I've met Maisie Williams and she seemed really nice, but she's not someone that I imagine would have a great understanding of issues relating to working class men, or black men, or divorced men, or any kind of men really, and most importantly I doubt that she's particularly well informed on feminism either. She's probably one of the millions of people that associate feminism with aspiring for equality.

iainmf · 2019-09-26T08:43:15+00:00

http://archive.fo/towNU

Any thoughts on that Thrones feminism debate? I don’t think I’ve seen you asked about that before…

I got asked in one of my first interviews: “Is Arya a feminist?” I didn’t even know what a feminist was.

You were like 12!

And then someone explained it to me. And I remember thinking, “Isn’t that just like everyone?” And then I realized everyone is not a feminist, unfortunately. But I also feel like we should stop calling feminists “feminists” and just start calling people who aren’t feminist “sexist” — and then everyone else is just a human. You are either a normal person or a sexist. People get a label when they’re bad. Because it works the other way, as well. A lot of men have it hard too. On the show specifically, it’s always been a constant debate because women are treated badly on the show, and they’re treated well on the show. But it’s the same as the boys and the girls and the men and the animals. The themes are very dark. I get it that people don’t want to watch scenes like that. I understand, and you shouldn’t have to. But that’s the show that we’ve made, and I have no control over what’s written. I think it’s upsetting that so many people have found it upsetting. But I find a lot of things upsetting to watch. I get upset when animals get slaughtered. And lots of people are like, “But this is worse than that” — and I never understood that. I think everybody’s allowed to be upset about what they’re upset by. And once people are angry about something, you start worrying about saying the right thing instead of just saying what you mean. It’s very easy to have an opinion. Everyone’s got one. But it’s very difficult to speak up about difficult subjects when people are angry with you. People say: “Why don’t you speak up!” [and I’m thinking], “Because you all got pitchforks and you’re ready to kill us!” It’s scary if you say something wrong.

When people are upset, it sometimes doesn’t matter what you say — if don’t agree with them, you’ll just make them more angry.

Exactly. And I don’t want to be like, “Oh, people love to be angry,” because people have a right to be upset about scenes that upset them — just as much as people have a right to laugh at things that made them happy. Maybe I just have to get a backbone. I’m going to say this in this interview, but I wouldn’t say it with anyone else: I sometimes really worry about speaking up about feminist subjects out of fear of being bashed by women on social media. And there’s something not right there. Yeah, sometimes it’s men too. But there are women who are just nasty. I’m trying to do the best I can. I got a voice. I believe in equality and I know I have more power than the average person to reach people. And I just get petrified in case people are rude. You don’t want to put yourself through that. If people are angry about [the Sansa Stark scene last year] you have to watch [the season 5 DVD] commentary because [writer-producer] Bryan Cogman speaks about it in depth and it’s from the heart. I’m a very sarcastic girl and can sound like a dick in interviews — people are like, “Why are you so annoying?” In this you can hear his voice and it’s so full of emotion. So watch the commentary because you’ll get all your information there

NotAnXMenCharacter · 2019-09-26T12:04:50+00:00

"if you aren't with me, then you're my enemy" - Darth Vader.

marcus-bolt · 2019-09-26T10:05:47+00:00

The thing to also pay attention to is, most women who are silent or appear to not be outspoken on their feminist views actually don't mind the feminists spreading their hatred around.

They might even fake their position by saying "oh yeah I'm not like that person". This is why feminists largely goes unopposed today, eventhough majority of people don't follow it. Women actually don't see much problem in it becuase it gives them benefits, so they don't intent to stop it even if they make a show of how bad it is or how they claim they are better than these crazy people to gain social points in front of their friends or their guys. But mostly, it is silent admission because they don't see men to have same human value as women.

dwarvist · 2019-09-26T14:17:57+00:00

"If you don't submit to every aspect of my political agenda, you're the enemy of everyone in my identity group."

Lion_amongst_gods · 2019-09-26T09:54:30+00:00

I feel like we should stop calling feminists 'feminists' and just start calling them 'sexists'. You're either a normal person or a sexist.

Mr_Hyde_ · 2019-09-26T10:08:50+00:00

You're either egalitarian, where you're for equality for everyone, or you're a feminist, who believes misandry is the norm because sexism only exist if it's men.

Dead_Art · 2019-09-26T12:49:54+00:00

This mentality comes from the idea that modern feminism is about equality, when in reality it's not. It's about gaining advantages for women at the expense of men.

I'm all for equality and spent a lot of my life paying for it because a lot of the women in my life didn't want to held to the same standards as I hold everyone to.

FallenITD · 2019-09-26T13:08:27+00:00

They can start calling me sexist when the number of female workers in the mining, construction, logging, fishing, iron/steel industries gets at least somewhat closer the that of men.

Until then they are the sexist ones.

rubixd · 2019-09-26T13:33:50+00:00

I think Maise is using the word "Feminist" like it's intended, for equality.

Her quote makes more sense that way.

You're either for equality between the sexes or you're a sexist

MontyAlmighty · 2019-09-26T09:59:06+00:00

Tbh.. Most people who claim to be "Feminist's" aren't normal.
A good chuck of them think feminism is only for women.
I agree everyone should be equal and if you act like a shitty person you should be called out for it no matter what your gender is.

Charmingaxelotl · 2019-09-26T10:48:29+00:00

Wrong. You are either a normal person or a feminist.

xeronymau5 · 2019-09-26T16:29:58+00:00

Ah yes, the old "if you're not with us you're against us" mentality that feminists are so infamous for. Why do so many people choose to see things in black and white? Nothing is ever that simple...

tableender · 2019-09-26T12:27:39+00:00

A feminist is a woman carrying a £15 coffee leaving Starbucks that steps over a homeless man lying in the gutter and thinks he is oppressing her. All men a oppress all women....... apparently.

Kekerekinox · 2019-09-26T14:42:43+00:00

Feminism is a vile cancer.

InvincibleV · 2019-09-26T10:48:30+00:00

We should not call ourselves feminists since we are the ones who are part of a movement but we should demonize literally every other person who does not view things the way we do.

Dont get me wrong. I do like democracy and I do want people to have their own free unique point of view... AS LONG AS THEIR POINT OF VIEW IS MY POINT OF VIEW.

And people wonder why we dont take feminists seriously.

Kravego · 2019-09-26T13:15:12+00:00

At the same time though, the top responses to that post all call it out as being incorrect.

lastlofi · 2019-09-26T13:32:21+00:00

I just don't fucking understand west feminism. They already have all the rights. I never heard these bitches talk about inequality women face in Islamic regions. This is all just a fucking propaganda for alt leftists to get in power. According to this post, I would remain sexist my whole life

MorisBielak · 2019-09-26T14:06:04+00:00

Id rather be known as sexist than an idiot

Mythandros · 2019-09-26T16:32:50+00:00

We've already established that feminists collectively, throughout the entire world, only have a single digit amount of brain cells to share between all of them. This is why their beliefs are so obviously stupid and idiotic.

YoseMT · 2019-09-26T16:40:06+00:00

To be honest, feminism actually means that both men and women should get equal rights. So anybody who doesn't believe in equal rights is sexist.

Lendari · 2019-09-26T16:41:20+00:00

Radical feminists are far from being normal. There is a brand of feminism that is so toxic that even calling it feminism is wrong. It's just radicalism. It's like nazis calling themselves conservatives or something. It's not the same thing.

Legatti · 2019-09-26T17:37:17+00:00

I'm a feminist, but I believe in equal rights for all. Equal responsibilities as well. More of a humanist, I guess? I'm definitely not a man hater- man here.

Tarheb · 2019-09-26T19:17:55+00:00

This actually made me say "WHAT THE FUCK?!?" out loud.

spletharg · 2019-09-26T21:44:51+00:00

I'm pasting this quote again in case anybody missed it:

Any thoughts on that Thrones feminism debate? I don’t think I’ve seen you asked about that before…

I got asked in one of my first interviews: “Is Arya a feminist?” I didn’t even know what a feminist was.

You were like 12!

And then someone explained it to me. And I remember thinking, “Isn’t that just like everyone?” And then I realized everyone is not a feminist, unfortunately. But I also feel like we should stop calling feminists “feminists” and just start calling people who aren’t feminist “sexist” — and then everyone else is just a human. You are either a normal person or a sexist. People get a label when they’re bad. Because it works the other way, as well. A lot of men have it hard too. On the show specifically, it’s always been a constant debate because women are treated badly on the show, and they’re treated well on the show. But it’s the same as the boys and the girls and the men and the animals. The themes are very dark. I get it that people don’t want to watch scenes like that. I understand, and you shouldn’t have to. But that’s the show that we’ve made, and I have no control over what’s written. I think it’s upsetting that so many people have found it upsetting. But I find a lot of things upsetting to watch. I get upset when animals get slaughtered. And lots of people are like, “But this is worse than that” — and I never understood that. I think everybody’s allowed to be upset about what they’re upset by. And once people are angry about something, you start worrying about saying the right thing instead of just saying what you mean. It’s very easy to have an opinion. Everyone’s got one. But it’s very difficult to speak up about difficult subjects when people are angry with you. People say: “Why don’t you speak up!” [and I’m thinking], “Because you all got pitchforks and you’re ready to kill us!” It’s scary if you say something wrong.

When people are upset, it sometimes doesn’t matter what you say — if don’t agree with them, you’ll just make them more angry.

Exactly. And I don’t want to be like, “Oh, people love to be angry,” because people have a right to be upset about scenes that upset them — just as much as people have a right to laugh at things that made them happy. Maybe I just have to get a backbone. I’m going to say this in this interview, but I wouldn’t say it with anyone else: I sometimes really worry about speaking up about feminist subjects out of fear of being bashed by women on social media. And there’s something not right there. Yeah, sometimes it’s men too. But there are women who are just nasty. I’m trying to do the best I can. I got a voice. I believe in equality and I know I have more power than the average person to reach people. And I just get petrified in case people are rude. You don’t want to put yourself through that. If people are angry about [the Sansa Stark scene last year] you have to watch [the season 5 DVD] commentary because [writer-producer] Bryan Cogman speaks about it in depth and it’s from the heart. I’m a very sarcastic girl and can sound like a dick in interviews — people are like, “Why are you so annoying?” In this you can hear his voice and it’s so full of emotion. So watch the commentary because you’ll get all your information there.

-So it seems to me that she's saying or implying that she's not an expert, that she's afraid of giving an opinion because of backlash from women, and that for her, feminism means egalitarianism. Which means the meme has so little context that it's meaningless, no surprises there. It seems like she's reluctantly giving an opinion and trying to be even handed, but fumbling.

rabel111 · 2019-09-26T23:14:35+00:00

So everyone who disagrees with you is wrong? That's one step away from everyone who disagrees with you needs re-education!

Really shows the average intelligence of feminists is not very high, and most are close to fanatical in their intolerance of diverse thought.

HNutz · 2019-09-26T11:10:16+00:00

Fucking INSANE.

Nobody153 · 2019-09-26T07:13:43+00:00

Maybe she means feminism as the term it used to be. The aim for both genders to be equal. Think about it like that and it is much more easy to understand.

zhivagoo · 2019-09-26T09:31:49+00:00

I have this pic saved in my pc just cus of how dumb it is

PIGamer86 · 2019-09-26T09:57:42+00:00

You’re either with us or against us.

MissSally2010 · 2019-09-26T10:23:29+00:00

How is it no one thought of this earlier.

TheseNthose · 2019-09-26T11:11:41+00:00

Everyone's a sithlord these days.

sexylegs0123456789 · 2019-09-26T11:13:26+00:00

Because not all feminists are the same.

Mortocrates · 2019-09-26T11:15:21+00:00

Clown world

StrangeInsight · 2019-09-26T12:30:51+00:00

I feel like loads of feminists believe their dogma is all about "true equality", which I think we can all agree is a novel goal. The devil, though, is in the details. It blows my mind how ardently they champion their own cause, but ignore the cause of others. It's all ego, when it spoils in that way. Isn't this the problem with ideology in general? Hell, I don't like late stage capitalism either, but I'm not blaming, "rich white men", and "the established patriarchy"! I'm looking at '.0001%' of the world, who has, and my teammates in the struggle who have not. We're meant to be allies and all this playing teams BS is only broadening the trench. Smh...

mkmlls743 · 2019-09-26T12:36:16+00:00

A lot of people who call themselves feminist should be called sexist.

guypridan · 2019-09-26T12:47:09+00:00

Femenists who won't support men-rights are sexist. Men-right supporters who won't support women rights are sexist. Hate can come from all places, all we can do is try to not generate and support hate here and hope other fellow human beings can do the same

sh1ftyswar · 2019-09-26T12:54:46+00:00

oh no! It's retarded!

DarthTyekanik · 2019-09-26T12:58:57+00:00

" You're either with us, or against us" -Joseph Stalin

sphinx2626 · 2019-09-26T13:02:25+00:00

Nazis are defined as national socialists... we should just judge them based on thier definition not thier actions or what they advocated for guys!!! <-- apply the same logic to feminism now.

[Its the not a true scottsman fallacy]

Movements and groups are measured by thier fruits. Not MEASURED and JUDGED by its defintion!!! Thats the marxist brainwashing in action to think on such a basic and idiotic level.

https://archive.is/Ik7z3

http://archive.is/RQQgy

decomposedGoat · 2019-09-26T13:12:05+00:00

Let's go one step further and stop calling anyone who is not for equal rights a sexist. If you're sexist by oppressing women, you're a sexist. If you're sexist by oppressing men, you're a sexist. If you favor special treatment for men, you're a sexist. If you favor special treatment for women, you're a sexist. All feminists for equal rights should be MRA. All MRA who are for equal rights should be feminists. This will probably piss off feminists, and probably piss off MRA, but if the ideologies are for what they preach, i.e. equality, they should embrace a wholistic approach.
Gendered risks like death by suicide and armed conflict (for men) and death by domestic abuse, and rape (for women) should motivate everyone regardless of their own gender to try to seek solutions to the underlying problems, and not motivate hatred or exclusion. Men can be feminists and women can be MRA, and neither has to hate the other.
Radicals on both sides need to consider moderation and empathy. Because fuck extremism, and fuck hatred.

Debotroy · 2019-09-26T13:49:20+00:00

Hoes mAd

lostapwbm · 2019-09-26T14:09:58+00:00

That's right, if you aren't feminist/'normal person', you are a sexist/'Lebensunswertes Leben'.

For the people who howl loudly about how they are all about love and peace, they are sure in a rush to declare others to be non-persons or otherwise exiled from civilized society.

jbnaeicmkble · 2019-09-26T14:16:11+00:00

Why not just be femsexist? Sounds more funner right?

MolecularBark · 2019-09-26T14:25:06+00:00

This is one of those that context means everything. If we posted this anywhere else like a sub for equality everyone would love it. Posted it here and we would get called misogynistic. It matters the context but I enjoy the premise because sexism can go both ways.

MineDogger · 2019-09-26T14:25:37+00:00

It would make WAY more sense to call normal people "normal," and the people who have an agenda with a specific gender literally followed by "-ist" "sexists"...

Doncha think?

Plus, they already assume this anyway. Its not like they've been reasonable until just now...

jackthepizzaman · 2019-09-26T14:25:57+00:00

that says allot abought theyr movement

theDmc231 · 2019-09-26T14:31:12+00:00

Same as “trump 2020 or you’re insane”

Aranthos-Faroth · 2019-09-26T14:32:28+00:00

"I feel like we should stop calling people feminist"

Proceeds to use the term as a base for her point.

Smart.

NeuromancerLV · 2019-09-26T14:37:12+00:00

Not Arya's finest hour

Zuke88 · 2019-09-26T14:41:16+00:00

oh behold, the exact reason as to why a lot of people, both male and female, do not identify with the label at all

leftajar · 2019-09-26T14:56:29+00:00

Feminists are a bunch of whiners who want to dismantle female responsibilities while enhancing female privileges. It's fundamentally a form of nagging.

nzalog · 2019-09-26T15:02:30+00:00

I think they should do it, “nazi” and “fascist” already lost nearly all meaning, “sexist” is next. They’re breaking all their weapons.

Weetile · 2019-09-26T15:08:00+00:00

Egalitarianism > Feminism

P1Zeebs · 2019-09-26T15:21:30+00:00

Only a Sith deals in absolutes!

javi3r5ito · 2019-09-26T15:27:37+00:00

She should stop feeling and start thinking.

Skywarriorad · 2019-09-26T15:33:33+00:00

The problem with that idea is that, tell me who shut down mens day at a college campus? Tell me who complains about the “wage gap” when women naturally do less risky, and as such less paying, jobs? Who complains of “rape culture” and rape being an acceptable thing? How complains about the wage gap and wont do harder jobs because theyre a woman and shouldnt be expected to do tough work even though they wanna be treated like equals? Who blame men for all rape cases when men can be raped too? Who shuts down everything a man says cause of the excuse of “hes mansplaining”? The fact that word doesnt have to be corrected like my semi lack of punctuating. The fact you guys normalized it that much. This is getting long so ima stop here but theres more.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2019-09-26T15:39:10+00:00

"I think we should stop calling people who believe in the divinity of Jesus as Christians and instead call anyone who doesnt believe that as heretics. You're either a normal person or a heretic"

Feminists continue to presume that the only way to believe in equality of the sexes is their way. It's a rhetorical cheat, or for some downright narcissism.

Slade_Riprock · 2019-09-26T15:41:29+00:00

I find it more troubling that the literal biblical adage of treat all people with love as you wish to be treated has been turned into a racist, sexist, homophobic sentiment.

That being color blind, trusting people equally and fairly is disregarding their plight, their pain and suffering and not giving their self imposed victimhood proper credence.

scipiotomyloo · 2019-09-26T15:42:25+00:00

I like to remember some of these facts, just to remind myself how fucking stupid people are when i see quotes like this:

-27% of Americans don’t believe the U.S. really landed astronauts on the moon.

-During World War I, a South African monkey was promoted to corporal.

-70% of people who are diagnosed with a blood disease need to rely on the kindness of a stranger to get a bone marrow transplant. Only 2% of Americans are on the donor list.

-2 million children living in poverty die of illnesses that are totally treatable, like dehydration caused by diarrhea, or pneumonia.

the_smol_tol_bean · 2019-09-26T16:00:53+00:00

There would be a lot of irony if this also ended up as top post all time in this sub, and I'm here for it

jpeero88 · 2019-09-26T16:04:12+00:00

I don't think Maisie Williams said that, at least i hope not....

madmacs · 2019-09-26T16:07:13+00:00

This is sad to actually say but, here goes.

"Equality" to a feminist really means "Women first".

Actual science on the subject is met with fear, hate and mind games designed to keep the victim status.

Weird that we have a whole group of people hating on one gender while maintaining and using masks to hide the imperfections that is present in all humans.

Makeup , fashion and sexuality all used as a tool for control over another gender.

Behind these things they shout about being victims.

Hypocritical? Possibly. Narcissim? Could be.

Either way feminism is changing into a male hate group that will eat it's own to keep this agenda going. For fear of the whole finding out of the two self inflicted bullet holes in their feminist feet.

Or something like that.

Lucius_Martius · 2019-09-26T16:15:07+00:00

At least it's not the usual bullshit about everyone advocating for equality being a feminist.

I'd rather be labeled a sexist by a feminist than a feminist by a regular person.

Handle-me-timber · 2019-09-26T16:16:41+00:00

Confirms what we already knew, feminism is the problem.

liquorbaron · 2019-09-26T16:22:26+00:00

So it will be just like when they call you racist for having a different opinion than theirs. Ok.

2019-09-26T16:23:04+00:00

They have a point, because in the whole human history women were inferior in law. But, I think that the real issue of this meme is that the word 'sexist' is much more stronger than the word 'feminist'. It's easy to judge for no reason people, especially if these people are in behalf of women rights.

BonelessSkinless · 2019-09-26T16:24:31+00:00

So being a feminist is a "normal person" now?? Ahahahahahahahaaaaa

dgreenwood11 · 2019-09-26T16:27:54+00:00

There’s no issue with that statement, if feminism was still about equality like it should be.

drmangrum · 2019-09-26T16:38:12+00:00

I love how she immediately associates feminism with normality when approximately 10% of the population would label themselves as feminist.

MrStone1 · 2019-09-26T16:40:32+00:00

feminists are economic cattle

alex_dlc · 2019-09-26T16:49:15+00:00

If a post has 10K points, that does not mean 10K people upvoted it.

AssassinTable · 2019-09-26T17:02:45+00:00

Isn't feminism sexism

Diylion · 2019-09-26T17:06:48+00:00

I mean the term "femenist" just means you believe in equal rights for males and females. And arguably anybody who doesn't believe in equal rights is sexist.

just because modern "feminists" misconstrue it to think that women deserve more rights doesn't mean that the term "feminist" should be percieved that way.

PrinceWizdom · 2019-09-26T17:09:08+00:00

Islam is right about women

HeHathFury · 2019-09-26T17:10:33+00:00

Dumb quote from a B-List celebrity. Not surprising

mrkulci · 2019-09-26T17:12:34+00:00

It's literally unnatural to believe in equality for we are not equal. Feminism is a lie and sexism is nature itself.

MasonTaylor22 · 2019-09-26T17:34:32+00:00

Great way to push away people who aren't conformist or into 1984 cult-like groupthink.

dont__panic · 2019-09-26T17:37:44+00:00

My vote is we stop calling them feminists, and call them retards instead. You're clearly incapable of rational thought if you're a feminist.

aa13cool · 2019-09-26T17:44:08+00:00

Well that’s outrageous. She must be stupid. A feminist is someone who wants equal rights in everything. That’s fine. But fuckin morons like her don’t get that. I have nothing wrong with actual feminists. Feminazis are too hypocritical. Smh

Oskar-Dirlewanger · 2019-09-26T17:52:37+00:00

Beautiful aryan goddess

EliteAlmondMilk · 2019-09-26T18:01:31+00:00

Haven't watched it yet and I don't want to. I just, sigh.

kunimiya · 2019-09-26T18:11:47+00:00

Judge Judy isn't happy

LemmieBee · 2019-09-26T18:20:02+00:00

I’ve been told being an egalitarian is sexist which makes absolutely no sense and is hilarious to me

xXx_BL4D3_xXx · 2019-09-26T18:38:26+00:00

Fuck yeah I hate women all they’re good for is coochie.

/s

DevilDrives · 2019-09-26T19:13:37+00:00

I'm going to start referring to this mind-set as, "feminine supremacy".

DizzyDeezler · 2019-09-26T19:40:28+00:00

Yeah, but a lot of feminists don't believe in equality. They prioritize political correctness and believe in female superiority as opposed egalitarianism.

ToraChan23 · 2019-09-26T19:49:40+00:00

Could we use this same logic with meninist?

flip69 · 2019-09-26T19:50:06+00:00

I'm just going to say this as someone that remembers this thrust into the public consciousness.

That the founders of the feminist movement were very disturbed people with psychosexual and gender identity issues. That according to their mindset that the selling point of "equality" was just a stepping stone to power and dominance over men.

That in their own world view of power and dominance that "men" had to lose to insure that they could win... that equality was never the intentions or goal.

MythicalCosm0 · 2019-09-26T20:08:24+00:00

Guess Im a Sexist Nazi Fascist

colubrinus1 · 2019-09-26T20:31:27+00:00

We should focus on men’s rights, not feminism. Whether or not you believe feminism is the enemy, pushing for men’s rights will be far more productive than fighting feminism ever will be. If feminism is anti - MRA, then destroying feminism won’t, on its own, fix our issues. However, if feminism is the enemy, pushing for men’s rights will destroy feminism.

julie_k8 · 2019-09-26T20:43:52+00:00

I’m a woman and I’ve already been called sexist many times before. I’ve also told that I’m not a real woman either. But of course... If you’re not one of them... you’re nothing.

romulusnr · 2019-09-26T20:44:52+00:00

I think the upswing of something like that would be to normalize sexism, from not holding a door all the way to forcible rape, as functionally equivalent.

Realperson1234 · 2019-09-26T20:51:12+00:00

Can I just put in a word for genuine feminists fighting for equality. I personally think that men's rights are important not only because men go through so much, but getting rid of the idea that "hiding your emotions to appear strong is good" will be freeing for all genders and allow people to be themselves.

K-Dave · 2019-09-26T20:55:37+00:00

This stuff will backlash so hard, once the wind turns. I tried to stay moderate for so long, and when even people like me lose their patience, I can only imagine how angry people are, who don't care about being a reflected and balanced person.

The only reason why I'm not a full blown anti-feminist is the scum on the other side of the coin (who DOES exist and hurt the reputation of reasonable men) and the association with right-wing ideology, which I do not support.

killdozer33 · 2019-09-27T02:16:25+00:00

sounds like something a dumb bitch would say

Criket · 2019-09-27T02:44:16+00:00

I feel like we shouldn't call feminists feminist but simply monster...

i_amtheice · 2019-09-27T05:37:51+00:00

Maisie is a young woman who's lived in the bubble since she was like 11. I can't blame her for thinking this way-- it's the only way she's ever gotten points with the people in her group. She said this because she knew it would make her "woke team" cheer and retweet and give her dopamine rushes. I feel like if she were presented with facts, she seems smart enough to at least take them into account.

hunterfox20 · 2019-09-27T06:04:06+00:00

"We shouldn't call homosexual people 'homosexual' we should call then normal people and call heterosexual people gay"

RockmanXX · 2019-09-27T09:25:13+00:00

Not falling for that crap again, Female George bush. We are ALL your enemies!

Bros_over_Hoes · 2019-09-27T13:01:05+00:00

Stuff like this makes me ashamed of being a girl sometimes...

liztu_june · 2019-09-27T19:54:01+00:00

Women complain about sexual objectification, uses a attractive women in this post.

Fanz_Alt · 2019-09-28T16:41:32+00:00

well I'm sexist then. normal doesn't necessarily mean good. In a world full of idiots, being normal means being one.

DarkusRayman · 2019-09-28T19:33:17+00:00

I guess her point is that: you either believe in equality for the genders (in how far that is physically possible) or you don't. And if you don't then you are a sexist. To be perfectly honest I don't see much wrong with that statment. However the radical feminists use this as an excuse to label everyone who isn't a femanazi as sexist. Being sexist is something that both MRA and feminism agree is bad. So they turned it from "You either believe in equality or not" to "You either are with us or you are the villain". Kinda sad to be honest.

AntTheHero · 2019-09-29T20:54:46+00:00

Rise, Masculist Army

Mikeytikey123 · 2019-10-01T03:31:56+00:00

Is that Maisie Williams? No idea she had such a narrow-minded ideology. She is an actress though...

too_late- · 2019-10-04T22:27:50+00:00

What she means is, declaring yourself to be actively against the basic principles of feminism would imply you do not believe in equal rights for all races and sexes. Whether or not you agree with individual feminists, or their methods of activism is an entirely different conversation.

that_gay_ass_panda · 2019-12-05T19:48:47+00:00

Bruh I'm called a sexist among other things for not buying there feminist bullshit anyways

mr_unstable_melons · 2019-12-28T11:45:21+00:00

It's weird because feminists are the sexist ones

iWantABabyJesus · 2019-09-26T16:14:27+00:00

For the record Angela Merkel is not a feminist, so she is sexist somehow with this logic ?

vicious_armbar · 2019-09-26T20:28:22+00:00

“If you don’t support my unfair political agenda you’re a bigot!”

Fuck off and go back to playing make believe! Why would you think that I give two shits about your political beliefs?!

ColorMeOffended · 2019-09-26T16:12:08+00:00

Gross

DunnyofDestiny · 2019-09-26T06:51:23+00:00

Is this men’s rights or women’s because these comments are telling a different story.

ifihadasister · 2019-09-26T08:21:29+00:00

Here's the text so you can search for sources: “I feel like we should stop calling feminists ‘feminists’ and just start calling people who aren’t feminist ‘sexist’ – and then everyone else is just a human. You are either a normal person or a sexist.” (Maisie Williams)

christian_o · 2019-09-26T08:52:04+00:00

69 th upvote

I_Love_BB8 · 2019-09-26T12:02:10+00:00

What’s wrong with her face?

Sidian · 2019-09-26T12:34:53+00:00

Just another privileged, rich actress who was already a millionaire before reaching adulthood saying nonsensical woke things and thinking she has any clue whatsoever about what sexism is or what it's like to have to struggle in life. Hollywood is absolutely full of these obnoxious, out of touch idiots. One of the reasons I hate our celebrity-worshipping culture and find it increasingly difficult to enjoy media.

MertWhenNeeded · 2019-09-26T10:03:03+00:00

Greatest trick of the devil was convincing people he didnt exist-some guy I think

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2019-09-26T10:14:29+00:00

So if you don't think women should be superior to men that's an attack on women?

missing_noway · 2019-09-26T10:32:08+00:00

It's just virtue to blind you. Virtue to barter with. They're all hollow and vacuous people who try to convince the self's they're good. Are you being good? Be good? You've got to be good or your BAD

Dwarf90 · 2019-09-26T11:03:25+00:00

Time to join the female team.

iamrivensky · 2019-09-26T11:29:25+00:00

We’re reaching levels of irony that shouldn’t be legal

olioster · 2019-09-26T11:42:03+00:00

Why are the cute ones always so stupid?

ruifaf · 2019-09-26T14:30:46+00:00

"I feel like we should stop calling feminists 'feminists' and start calling people who are feminist 'cunt'. You are either a normal person or a cunt"

alicefoch · 2019-09-26T17:04:23+00:00

I'm happy to see this image sooo upvoted here on this sub! I am glad you guys agree that people who aren't feminists should be simply called "sexists".

Good for you guys! And here I was, thinking y'all too far gone!

AFlipYouMustDo · 2019-09-26T10:34:17+00:00

Traditionally, "Feminist" means that you believe in equality for men and women.

It has come to be used as an insult, referring to feminazis and people who support pro-women movements that degrade men to put women higher, lumping in all people who believe in equality for all as crazy, anti-men activists.

So yeah, if you aren't a feminist you are sexist, given that feminist means you support equal rights for men and women.

Davo93 · 2019-09-26T12:40:30+00:00

Please don't fall into bullshit understanding. It's pretty clear that she meant Feminism as in the original "dictionary" meaning, not this last wave crap.

I'm with her, you are either Normal, as in wanting equality for all, or you are sexist, as in bias towards one sex or another (either male or female).

Don't be dumb dumbs

MrVentz · 2019-09-26T09:57:09+00:00

Hate to be the asshole here, but everyone thinks their POV is the only right one.
You may or may not be able to change that using logical arguments and such, but usually people stick to what they feel is right.

The trick is to avoid toxic people. Stop being toxic ourselves. Go full hippie.
Either that, or you'll get pissed for all the reasons anytime. Not cool.

GotThemBabyLungs · 2019-09-26T13:30:17+00:00

If someone asked me

‘which gender sub is full of Whiny socially awkward bitches on the rag?’

I would have immediately said ‘obviously r/feminism’

But it looks like I was wrong and it’s r/mensrights

Congrats on being a bunch of outrage fuelled bitches 😂😂😂

redpilling1993 · 2019-09-26T06:26:56+00:00

What do you expect from an ugly girl.

314_jedi · 2019-09-26T12:33:00+00:00

she doesn't believe that nonsense

DrPVM · 2019-09-26T12:42:48+00:00

Like the radical left, they tie words up in knots and have you not knowing what is up or down. They take words, and fuck them in the ass. If you don't agree with their definition of a word, they just insult you with another.

I feel like we should stop calling feminists 'feminists' and start calling them 'cognitive-dissonance-riddled fucking idiot cunts'. You are either a normal person or you are a fucking idiot cunt, like the one pictured.

ScottieG86 · 2019-09-26T18:45:20+00:00

The girl in the image is really hot.

drymeatsfrydeep · 2019-09-26T09:45:52+00:00

Radical feminism and feminism are two very different things. One is basic human decency.

Eagleeye412 · 2019-09-26T11:46:12+00:00

If you thought about it for more than ten seconds, and put down your pitchforks, youd realize that shes actually on your side in this

If you put down your disdain for the word feminism for a moment, her claim states that the term feminism shouldn't even HAVE to exist and people who get in the way of REAL feminism which isnt toxic (reproductive rights, actual discrimination, etc) should just be called sexists

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FootAssWorshipper · 2019-09-26T11:44:50+00:00

That’s why murder can be justified.

ColonelVirus · 2019-09-26T12:12:52+00:00

Sure I agree with this... Assuming feminism means equality for women. Not the bullshit some of them chat and push for.

tonyabrownn98 · 2019-09-26T16:32:39+00:00

The quote isnt wrong though :)

MyGirlsona · 2019-09-26T11:53:23+00:00

Yike this sub is a shithole. Fun fact: yes if you don't support equality for women you're a sexist.

Another fun fact: no feminism isn't a antimen or antiequality. You just aren't used to not being above women and fear losing your position of power. I was this way in highschool too until I grew up

halfapoint · 2019-09-26T13:44:34+00:00

No one cares incels

14b755fe39 · 2019-09-26T07:01:22+00:00

Please explain the relevance to mens rights?

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