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Yes, you have. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1h0muc5/comment/lz7x3bv/

Men seem to love the women they are attracted to, whereas women are attracted to the men they love. Women look at men hollistically, and select based on their emotional connection to them i.e. sense of humor, personality, compatibility, how emotionally resilient he is, hygiene and self-image, etc.

Men, in general, seem to conflate their attraction to a woman with their sexual interest because men take a looks-based approach to mate selection and dating, then consider her internal qualities. The way OLD is set up reflects the approach men take.

Whereas women take an emotion-based approach to dating. They are attracted to a man based on a lot of things (i.e. his morals/values, his personality, his self image, his interests and their compatibility), which doesn't get a lot attention on the apps, meanwhile the sexual attraction they have for men, comes from their physical attraction to him.

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What are the consequences for men sleeping around?

STDs, he's spreading his seed to many women, thus creating multiple single mother households, all without an active father (my dad). It shows he has a lack of sexual discipline. It leads to difficulties developing healthy attachments. It causes men to see women as objects of lust. It indicates he is easily seduced by many women, and is non committal. Continously sleeping around indicates he does not have the patience nor the emotional intelligence to build a loving, committed relationship with a woman.

Being a virgin/inexperienced is more of a turn off than a high body count to most women

You can't speak for us tho. Do you seriously think women actually want to risk any of the above, when they could simply choose a man with more sexual discipline. Give me 1 reason how a woman personally benefits from picking a guy who fucks around?

It is a woman's biological imperative to seek monogamy with a man, and one who desires to commit to their family and provide resources to support their offspring. When a man is committed to spreading his seed, it indicates to a woman he is a poor choice for a partner and potential father. If she picks poorly now she is risking the survival of their children.

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STDs, he's spreading his seed to many women, thus creating multiple single mother households, all without an active father (my dad). It shows he has a lack of sexual discipline. It leads to difficulties developing healthy attachments. It causes men to see women as objects of lust. It indicates he is easily seduced by many women, and is non committal. Continously sleeping around indicates he does not have the patience nor the emotional intelligence to build a loving, committed relationship with a woman.

Thats true I guess but have you seen men like that ever struggle with women? They are still getting picked by them and could date easily if they wanted to.

You can't speak for us tho. Do you seriously think women actually want to risk any of the above, when they could simply choose a man with more sexual discipline. Give me 1 reason how a woman personally benefits from picking a guy who fucks around?

There is no real benefit. Like I said before I dont think most women care much about how high a mans body count is. Ive only seen issues about a man being a virgin or inexperienced. Im not speaking for yall. Its been asked many times on this sub and many women here are opposed to being with a virgin/inexperienced man.

The virgin/inexperienced guy is seen as undesireable or desperate

It is a woman's biological imperative to seek monogamy with a man, and one who desires to commit to their family and provide resources to support their offspring. When a man is committed to spreading his seed, it indicates to a woman he is a poor choice for a partner and potential father. If she picks poorly now she is risking the survival of their children.

I understand that

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that is honestly bleak, and makes me feel hopeless as a former rape and sa victim. it reminds me of the cop who told me to never press charges bc the court would throw it out, the horror of HIM messaging me begging for forgiveness, me calling the police, and then just becoming too hopeless to do anything. not long after the guy that raped me committed suicide. the guilt, the pain, it never ends.

life is a barren wasteland with no sympathy, a frigid hell where you have to keep fighting no matter how much you just want to give up. the peace of final death would be better than living through this i think sometimes.

the thought of having to go to court over something that will inevitably be thrown out, it's just a humiliation ritual. a cruel and awful thing for a victim to go through, there IS no justice. not ever.

anyone who decides you're just some stupid whore because of this experience deserves to burn in hell for eternity. they dont deserve gods mercy, no matter HOW HARD THEY BEG on judgment day, they're going to the 9th circle of hell, and thats exactly where they belong. they deserve to be frozen without even the comfort of tears, they deserve less than nothing, in fact they deserve even more eternal pain and suffering, to such an extent, they deserve to die alone, and unimaginable level of emotional hell beyond human comprehension. that is ALL they deserve.

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Being "protective" is almost always an act of guarding her from other men, which is made a lot easier when she doesn't have a habit of being open to sexual interactions with many men.

A man wouldn't need to guard a woman from other men when they both loyal and trust eachother. Relationships aren't about guarding, but rather monogamy and comittment
Why is a man even dating a woman who easily opens herself up to other men? He's basically creating situations where he feels he must protect her, because he doesn't trust her. So what's the point of judging n count if you're still gonna be with someone you feel you have to guard?
I don't need to call back to anything. When 2 people are dating or married, others mens opinions outside of their relationship do not matter. You're basically trying to say, it doesn't matter how your boyfriend sees you because there is still a world of men out there, who you aren't dating, that will still care about your sexual past. Who gives af

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And you're likely not going to get a straight answer. How would you determine someone's body count. Just curious.

The trick?

I never commit, I never talk about past negatively, never bring any form of exclusivity, before the girl does, and I never show insecurity about past partners and all that.

I let her talk, let her open up first, I let her put her emotions on the table. And when she does, I never ask "how many", "how much" and stuff like that. Short answers, short questions, I simply let her speak. Women love speaking about themselves. I don't judge her, just listen. She will speak out. I've learnt that the moment you give her some sort of commitment, stability or security, she's going to shut her past down.

The more I string her along, the more she'll talk, the more I'll find about her, the more time I have to figure out things. After a few months I can just tell what kind of woman I am dating. If I'm still not convinced with her number, round up a few more. The girls with low body counts will usually flaunt their number early on as a way of saying "hey, look at me, I'm wife material" and this is actually easily proven, they are usually also a bit close minded, judgemental, have a few pick-me vibes, Her friends will be just like her, you know, "relationship girls".

S/N: If she doesn't bring up her past, never. She doesn't talks about it, she avoids any past related convo like the plague. She doesn't care about my past relationships, how my exes were, where I come from. She gets mad when I make a joke about it, she gets defensive when asked. "It's no one business but mine". I run for the hills.

I just take all that information however and make an educated decision whether to keep dating her or not. If she's hot enough, I'll fuckzone her, until she shows some extremely redeeming qualities. It sounds fucked up and it probably is. But I believe in a universe of electrons and selfish genes, sometimes the ends justify the means

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And you're likely not going to get a straight answer. How would you determine someone's body count. Just curious.

It's never easy to know the exact number(not that concerned with the exact number), but I can just tell, absolutely. Some women may come up clean early on, some of them may give "hints", but they all give me some sort of clues about who they are. I just keenly listen to them and pay attention.

Dead give away signs are: Has tattoos, drinks, is a party girl, has many guy friends, piercings(outside the norm), loves male validation and attention, very materialistic, very bold, approaches relationships practically not idealistic ally, flirtatious, kinky, does/used to do a plethora of drugs,dresses provocatively, generally their behavior will betray their past. If she has a combination of a few things in this list, odds are she had a colourful past.

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And you're likely not going to get a straight answer. How would you determine someone's body count. Just curious.

You will if you're smart about it...

I try befriending her close friends, women tend to share a lot of their sexcapades with their friends, it's a bit insidious but I've found that it's the most effective one. Once I've established friendships with them, investigate the type of man their friends likes/are into, and try presenting myself as the ideal guy to try create some rift, luckily the friend might take a liking to me and desire to have me for themselves, if she had a promiscuous past, more often than not the friend will drop hints or try to paint her in a bad light/score points over her, I also try to wedge a conflict between them, so that if she was indeed promiscuous in the past, her friend will slutshame her and expose her past to me. Works like a charm.

5.Then there's the long way asking round about questions regarding her opinions on sex and relationships, getting to know her friends, stuff she's posted on social media, her behaviors, the usual vetting stuff. Unfortunately, with the long method, you could end up wasting months to get a clear answer. It's faster to give her the impression that you're a very open and experimental man so hopefully she plays her hand early on.

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And you're likely not going to get a straight answer. How would you determine someone's body count. Just curious.

Second, I slip in casual questions here and there. Never overt questions, things like "what's the freakiest shit she's ever done", "whether she's ever had a fwb.", "whether she's ever used a dating app." After a while, I'm able to piece together some parts of the the puzzle.
Third, I get her to talk about each other's past dating experiences as if we were close friends, preferrably when she's tipsy or better yet, drunk. I Give her the impression that most of my past exes were attracted to the wilder things in life. I Paint myself as a complete man-whore to get her to feel comfortable to open up to make her feel comfortable and also lead her to believer I appreciate adventurous experiences. Like I'm not jealous at all if she had a past. I Ask things like: "What do you think the average person's partner count is?" Her answer will more often than not align more or less with her own body count so that she doesn't appear to be worse than others.I Don't act overly relieved if it's within my tolerance levels or vice versa.

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And you're likely not going to get a straight answer. How would you determine someone's body count. Just curious.

A good way I go with to get a more honest answer is I feign like I don't care. I learnt a long time ago that of you feign like you're sex-positive then they'll give an honest answer. You just have to play that zero judgement guy role down to a tee. What I'm saying is I don't give her any inclination that I will judge her. People ultimately want to be themselves. So if you create a situation where they feel like they can, then they'll tell on themselves. It's about giving off a certain impression. I Give them the impression that I'm attracted to the more wilder things in life. The process usually follows something like this...

First, I create an environment where she doesn't fear any judgement or repercussion. Being all sex positive and all. Having an almost "gay BFF" energy. "Oh you had some experiences, that's cool."Or something like "Oh you sucked off a guy at a house party? Damn girl, that's hot." Basically just acting intrigued by her experiences but not overdoing it.

Over the cause of my vetting, I've learnt that The moment you show any kind of insecurity or jealousy, she'll shut down on you. The more invested a girl is in a LTR with you, the less likely she's willing to air out her dirty laundries. So I pretend to be nonchalant, or even act like I'm slightly turned on by her sexcapades. I Do this sparingly. Otherwise She might think I'm a complete cuck and might walk all over me.

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It is historically true that if she has been with 10 or more men she is more likely to cheat, have stds, and likely suffered or currently suffers from depression/anxiety.

These women usually are selfish, defensive, and hate being wrong.

And the biggest things that men don't catch on to, but should is that these women talk about "being loved", not being in love. They only care about themselves.

Zoomer men usually have a better understanding than millennial. And Gen X men got screwed over. If they had this knowledge growing up, they wouldn't have married those Friends/ S3ggs in da city chicks and wouldn't gotten divorced by them.

Also John Gottman (even though he's a liberal) is a good resource to read about marriage, and every high school and college aged male should watch Gungor A Tale of Two Brains

Edit 1:

From married anon from dB

Also promiscuous women don't see intimacy as important but they also know they can't have the things they want without it (stability, a partner, their idea of a relationship) so they definitely will f** everyone they date and then when it's real they stop. My ex told me, when she stopped giving me blowjobs, "that's something I do with people I'm just dating". Told her how fucked up that was, she agreed, still like pulling teeth to make it happen. Two years after that wasted, should've been smarter.*

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Wrong. Promiscuity, Instability and Divorce

When compared with their peers who report fewer partners, those who self-report 20 or more in their lifetime are:

Twice as likely to have ever been divorced (50 percent vs. 27 percent)

Three times as likely to have cheated while married (32 percent vs. 10 percent)

Substantially less happy with life (p < 0.05) (pg.89)

https://imgur.com/rxkpWM4.jpg

Regnerus, M. D. (2017). Cheap sex: The transformation of men, marriage, and monogamy. Oxford University Press.

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As expected, we find evidence of a nonlinear relationship between the number of sexual partners and the risk of divorce. Those in the highest category of partners (9+) consistently show the highest divorce risk by a substantial margin, followed by those with one to eight partners, with the lowest risk for those with none. In other words, we find distinct tiers of divorce risk between those with no, some, or many premarital, nonspousal sexual partners. (pg.16)

https://i.imgur.com/mcSj4g0.jpg

Smith, J., & Wolfinger, N. H. (2023). Re-examining the link between premarital sex and divorce. Journal of Family Issues, 0192513X2311556.

Jeez. Promiscuous women are delusional and dishonest

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Denial it's okay. More sources

uncertainty. In Encyclopedia of Evolutionary Psychological Science (pp. 7808–7814). Springer International Publishing. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-319-16999-6_2029-1

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Promiscuity, Instability and Divorce

When compared with their peers who report fewer partners, those who self-report 20 or more in their lifetime are:

Twice as likely to have ever been divorced (50 percent vs. 27 percent)

Three times as likely to have cheated while married (32 percent vs. 10 percent)

Substantially less happy with life (p < 0.05) (pg.89)

https://imgur.com/rxkpWM4.jpg

Regnerus, M. D. (2017). Cheap sex: The transformation of men, marriage, and monogamy. Oxford University Press.

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As expected, we find evidence of a nonlinear relationship between the number of sexual partners and the risk of divorce. Those in the highest category of partners (9+) consistently show the highest divorce risk by a substantial margin, followed by those with one to eight partners, with the lowest risk for those with none. In other words, we find distinct tiers of divorce risk between those with no, some, or many premarital, nonspousal sexual partners. (pg.16)

https://i.imgur.com/mcSj4g0.jpg

Smith, J., & Wolfinger, N. H. (2023). Re-examining the link between premarital sex and divorce. Journal of Family Issues, 0192513X2311556. https://doi.org/10.1177/0192513x231155673

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The findings from this study demonstrate that the number of sexual partners participants had was negatively associated with sexual quality, communication, and relationship stability, and for one age cohort relationship satisfaction, even when controlling for a wide range of variables including education, religiosity, and relationship length. (pg.715)

https://i.imgur.com/0MuuWmd.jpg

Busby, D. M., Willoughby, B. J., & Carroll, J. S. (2013). Sowing wild oats: Valuable experience or a field full of weeds? Personal Relationships, 20(4), 706–718. https://doi.org/10.1111/pere.12009

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women who had more experience with short-term relationships in the past (i.e., those with high Behavior facet scores) were more likely to have multiple sexual partners and unstable relationships in the future. The behaviorally expressed level of sociosexuality thus seems to be a fairly stable personal characteristic. (pg. 1131)

https://i.imgur.com/k3ZcwTn.jpg

Penke, L., & Asendorpf, J. B. (2008). Beyond global sociosexual orientations: a more differentiated look at sociosexuality and its effects on courtship and romantic relationships. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 95(5), 1113–1135.

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uncertainty. In Encyclopedia of Evolutionary Psychological Science (pp. 7808–7814). Springer International Publishing. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-319-16999-6_2029-1

This is not related to any point I was arguing.

A reminder, my point is that while promiscuous people are more likely to cheat, "more likely" doesn't not mean "likely."

At a glance, only one of your sources directly addresses my argument, and it's the same one you posted before.

Three times as likely to have cheated while married (32 percent vs. 10 percent)

This is from the same source as the last comment. Now, as then, I still don't know where he got those numbers from or if they represent anything approaching a consensus scientific opinion.

At any rate, it supports my point anyway. A 32% cheating rate implies a 68% non-cheating rate.

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I'm actually of the opinion that most men don't like high body count, they just don't say it aloud because they get destroyed for it.

Before someone tells me that men with some level of experience don't care and aren't fucking hypocrites I will remind you that reddit or your friend group is a bubble. And since most of reddit is from the US ir Europw I'm just gonna state this: your country voted for fucking Trump and Europe is experiencing a wave of far right sympathy. If after all that you don't realize you live in a bubble and reddit IS a bubble, I don't know what to tell you.

Truth is, the average guy ideally wants someone with a lower body count than him. It's hyporcritical? Yes. It is what it is though and as soon as we accept it and just go on dating and having fun, the faster it will be that this n-count convos will decrease in frequency. Because my gosh everyone is fucking triggered when it comes to this subject 🤣🤣🤣 It's delicious to watch though

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Well that can also be explained: he never asked me my body count, and in fact I was the one who asked him and initiated the convo. Turns out his number is double of mine 🤣. He's a very attractive, confident guy so def not a lack of options thing. I'm sure he wouldn't enjoy hearing the detailed breakdown but I doubt it keeps him up at night after all this time! So that probably helps.

Also, he knows he's the best I've ever had and it's vice versa, so his ego is very much intact. Couple that with the fact that I'm super duper excited to sleep with him, am open to experimenting almost anything with him (with some common sense limits like scat and vomit and blood of course) and am generally enthusiastically ready whenever and whicever... well he wouldn't have to wonder how much I'm attracted to him now does he?

And, the most important factor by far: he fell in love with me. And he knows I'm just as infatuated with him as well. He knows he's the love of my admitedly young life, knows he's the only guy I ever wanted to marry and he's the one who changed my mind about having kids. Before him, I was very much convinced I would be childfree. But now? I want to have HIS babies. Not babies in the general sense. His babies. I literally can't wait to make him a father and honestly, if he asked me tomorrow to marry him, I would say yes. Even though it would be insane to do it at my age, there's no other man I would do such a stupid, inadvisable thing with. And no other man I would even want to do this with. He's just that guy for me.

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In my experience, most men wish they had higher counts than they do. Their perspective is informed by lack and frustration.

Couldn't agree more. And they don't ask themselves questions about why they feel the way they do either. They just react. Badly.

Most men who actually are fairly sexually successful are also the least likely to care about n counts in women. They are also, in general, the most attractive (thus their success).

I personally think this is 50/50. Fact is, few men are succesful with women. And among that objectively low number of men, some are hypocrites and some are actually the way you describe.

The average partner count is 4-7 (and I don't consider that particularly sexually succesful). I'm only stating that most men are actually in this category and they want a woman with a lower body count than them. Why you ask? Because it increases their chances of being "the best she's ever had". And I'm willing to put my hand in the fire that's the reason for this double standard.

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40M, 5 "all the way," though a few more with which I made out and/or came close to having sex with but chose not to. I waited till my mid-20's due to religious upbringing. I also tend to have LTRs, so no free time to rack up encounters; never had a one-night-stand. Attractive enough in facial features and athletic shape, but my height and treating women well probably make me "boyfriend/husband material" instead of ONS material. And on the rare occasion a short-term fling would be possible, it would necessitate wearing protection, and the sensation is so muted as to just not be worth the trouble for me. I do want more quantity, like most men, but perhaps somewhat femme-like, I wait for the quality experience, as with a long-term partner I don't have to use protection so it simply and literally feels better.

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Once again, there's a fundamental misunderstanding of what "high n count" even means.

Once again, hyperbolic examples like "half the town", as if promiscuous people who live in the tiniest towns of America.

Once again, sexless scrooges whine about women who have sex with other men but them.

Once again, men here are hypocritical about women who have casual sex. Demanding sex immediately and then being all "ick" she's had sex immediately before.

Once again, men here acting like women spend many weeks, months, and years pining over the sex they had with some "Chad".

Once again, men here act like they are frequently turning down promiscuous women.

Once again, vague threats about what happens to women who dare have sex.

Every other week, it's the same whiny nonsense.

It would be nice to see some new creativity.

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Mods were adamant about me not making a post about this, so I'll ask this here.

No amount of calling men insecure is going to solve anything in terms of them being turned off by a woman's count. Men in general just don't like the thought of women they care about being railed by other men. This isn't limited to the wife/gf either. Includes mom, include grandma, includes their daughters and their sisters. It's not pleasant to think about despite being reality.

So unless their a cuck, at best they can try to avoid the intrusive thoughts and not ask about it. Some find out anyway and it bothers them. Some can't avoid thinking about it, so they ask up front. Some reach a point of indifference where they can just tune it out. Regardless, if a guy finds out about the number of dudes and it's more they can stomach, calling him insecure won't help in any way. Even if said guy agreed to get over it, he wouldn't just get over it in a snap of the finger. Could take years for him to push down that knowledge. And acceptance isn't the same as forgetting, meaning his perception of his partner might change. Would be like a guy finding put his daughter had trains ran on her in college. He'll still live his daughter, but his perception of her will change. That's just a fact.

Women seem to think men have complete control over this gut reaction, yet the same women on PPD say attraction is outside of their control, same for icks. So why wouldn't the same rules apply here?

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My mom having and liking sex? I don't want to see that because ew, but it's completely normal and natural.

In the same way you know that's natural, yet can't control your revulsion to it, a lot of men are the same way with thinking about their gfs/wives getting plowed. What's so hard to get? The difference is, they hear their daughter or sister had sex with 50+ dudes, nothing they can do but just deal with that knowledge and cope. That's their family and that won't change. Gf on the otherhand, they have the option to leave. They don't have to deal if they don't want to.

I would say the same line about the wife being family too but so many women on PPD champion no-fault divorce and leaving for whatever reason, that I don't even think women here believe that truly.

Makes me think there is also some projection happening here. I honestly can't remember what sex with my past partners felt like.

You talk about projection but then immediately made the conversation about you. How much you remember from the guys you slept with is irrelevant to what I'm talking about. I'm not trying to discuss whether promiscuity is okay, or morality, or specifics of why men get repelled by the thought of their gf/wife getting railed. More so, I'm trying to emphasize that it's more of a knee jerk reaction they don't actively control.

If a guy walks in on his daughter being railed, he's most likely going to feel repulsion. Telling him it's natural and to not be insecure etc etc isn't going to help anything. He could fully control how he feels about it and he's not going to be over it by tomorrow. He can simply choose to not react or mention it while he copes with it internally. They can't be insulted or lectured into getting over it quicker if at all.

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From what i've seen, the men who care the most about n-counts are by large inexperienced and late-bloomer men. And I think it's fair for them to want someone with a similar (in)experience, although i am not a fan of the slut shaming they engage in. They also seem to have paranoia that every woman has slept with 30+ guys with big dicks.

Men who have been around, had girlfriends and perhaps a few hookups, are mostly actually super chill about n-counts. The only thing that's different is that the experienced men are secure, they know how sex works and aren't threatened by the fact that his woman may have enjoyed herself in the past with some other guy, cause he's done the same.

I actually get a visceral ick from men who are obsessed with n-counts, even if my number is 1 and will likely remain this way my entire life.

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I only ever see men trying to rationalize it

Women do this literally all the time?

The reason you see the gun argument or that it’s been thousands of years since the invention of martial arts and Smith & Wesson, is because there’s actually still women who think the length of a man’s femur bone will make him a better protector, and not just admitting “duh my monkey brain says hot”. WHICH WOULD BE FINE. But it gets worse. If anything, not only do they avoid admitting it through some absurd rationalization; some of their rationalizations are just purely shameful and hate-fueled generalizations. Women will not only say “oh 6 ft because something something feel safer” but will follow it up with “also short guys ALWAYS have complexes”

Like, gee… wonder why… then you get mad at men for making that argument.

Men don’t do that with physical features: we like nice tits and fat asses because it gets us hard. Full stop. If men were to go around saying it had something to do with how good of mothers those women would be, or women without those features are bad people in some way; women would be justifiably offended.

The only reason you see men trying to rationalize it is because MEN ARENT ALLOWED to just say “meh gross” in case you haven’t caught the ENTIRE thread. Women’s height preference isn’t met with “oh you just don’t like short guys because you’re shallow” by mainstream culture. Or “you don’t like bums because you’re not independent enough”

Men express this preference and it’s met with “incel” “insecure” “hypocrite” etc.

So men feel pressured to rationalize when really, they don’t have to—just like we don’t expect women to do the same.

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Women do this literally all the time?

No

The reason you see the gun argument

I don't care, and I don't need it explained to me or rationalized further

It's an attempt to justify a double standard all the same

Men and women are both human beings. We are part of the same species.

It is a double-standard to act like only the attraction of one gender of the same exact species has a reasonable biological basis, but not the other.

Men don’t do that with physical features

Yes, they do, constantly, exactly how I already described in the very comment you responded to

The only reason you see men trying to rationalize it is because MEN ARENT ALLOWED to just say “meh gross” in case you haven’t caught the ENTIRE thread.

Lol "aren't allowed" = "people have opinions when we express them"

Freedom of speech works both ways

I'd love for just one guy to give me an example of a western man being literally forced into sex or a relationship with someone that goes against his preferences

The fact that you can't express your opinion to a captive mute audience and reception =/= "not allowed" to express what they want and don't want

And a lot of the times it is most certainly not just merely expressing their preferences, it's denigrating those who don't fit - as you perfectly encapsulated with your "meh gross" desires

You know how I express my preferences?

"I want a childfree hot guy with a big dick who loves dogs and I don't have to mother."

You know what I don't say?

"Lol I don't want no baby-dick mid dude with crotch goblins 🤮"

Like, gee… wonder why… then you get mad at men for making that argument.

I'm not "mad at men" for fuck, IDGAF about their preferences or why. At all

I just find the double-standard irritating

As I very directly, plainly, and simply explained in the very comment you responded to

Men express this preference

Men call women sluts, post-wall, "lock and key," "ran through," "low value," landwhales, "cat ladies," "bitter," "hedonists," on and on and on

Your comment is one massive gaslight

"Men just expwess their pwefewences 🥺👉👈" "Men awen't awwowed to call women gwoss 🥺👉👈" no, they routinely denigrate and attack women who don't fit them, and when others use their free speech back they claim victimhood

It's really pathetic

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Women do this literally all the time?

No.

Yes.

I don’t care, and I don’t need it explained to me or rationalized further

Clearly, you do care and need it explained because you both brought it up to begin with and inserted an incorrect assumption, glad you’re caught up.

It’s an attempt to justify a double standard all the same

No, it’s an attempt to help you understand that double standards are both natural and expected. What would be attractive behavior in a woman mostly wouldn’t for a man and vice-versa.

Men and women are both human beings. We are part of the same species.

lol and? Literally what does that have to do with anything?

It is a double-standard to act like only the attraction of one gender of the same exact species has a reasonable biological basis, but not the other.

I want to say this is strawman but I honestly think it’s more reading comprehension. If you recall, I specifically stated neither women nor men need a biological basis for being attracted (or not) to certain traits. YOU said you only see men rationalizing their preferences which MUST be willful ignorance. My point is two-fold: I agree attraction is based on feels, HOWEVER some preferences can have valid rationalizations (N count) and some don’t. Regardless, a rationale isn’t needed and contrary to your point, it is primarily more women that have rationalizations for: height - protection, money - resources, jawline - health, etc. Nobody calls women out for these rationalizations but you do for men; how about neither need one?

Because usually, women tend to make false equivalencies anyway. For example guns and martial arts 100% do outweigh how broad a man’s shoulders are in terms of protective capabilities, birth control and paternity testing isn’t making 35 year old women 22 again lol.

And again, the only reason men rationalize them is because they’re pressured to. Because saying “meh, 22 year olds are hotter than y’all” or “you’re ran through and that’s gross to me” wasn’t good enough without it getting called slutshaming or whatever. Men weren’t “allowed” to just say we do not like this or we do like that, the way women do with their preferences.

Lol “aren’t allowed” = “people have opinions when we express them”

lol that’s adorable, I mean yeah that’s definitely one way to describe YouTube censorship, mainstream demonization, and social ostracism.

I’d love for just one guy to give me an example of a western man being literally forced into sex or a relationship with someone that goes against his preferences

Lol can you give us one example of a woman doing this?

The fact that you can’t express your opinion to a captive mute audience and reception =/= “not allowed” to express what they want and don’t want

Reductive, mind-numbingly reductive.

You know what I don’t say? “Lol I don’t want no baby-dick mid dude with crotch goblins”

This is relevant how? You think that just cancels out men seeing random video after video of women shitting on short men? Shit, even the ones “complimenting” are patronizing. “Short king” like imagine, “fat queen” 😂😂 it’d last one day. It’s crazier considering that most women are literally referring to just average height men when they use that term lol.

I’m not “mad at men” for fuck, IDGAF about their preferences or why. At all

Yeah… you’ve made that sooo abundantly clear.

I just find the double-standard irritating

Of course, it doesn’t benefit women like the plethora of others do.

Yeah and all those things are flagged for IG comments. There is no flag or “manlet” for example. Like name me an example in mainstream media of ANY MEDIUM where the “good guy” is saying those things and getting away with it. If a YouTube channel posted that it’s getting taken down.

Yet Joy Behar is on the view saying we don’t need men…

Women seem to think our media is still in the 60s or some shit, this narrative that objectifying and dehumanizing women is in every Hollywood movie now as if it was still the days of Sean Connery slapping broads in Bond movies. We’ve been living under post-modern feminism for like 20-30 years now lol how women think men can say those things still is beyond me. Hollywood is She-Hulk, not Andrew Tate.

Lady, goad all you want; you haven’t been able to correctly follow along to a few paragraphs, let alone an entire mainstream narrative.

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No, it's based on feels.

Um... Yes, it’s true that feelings can also be rational and justified. Even self-doubt is completely normal and justified if there are objective reasons for it.

"Muh pair bonding."

Totally real concept. Yes, we are certainly not birds, but we as a species are serial monogamists from the very beginning and this is a scientific fact. “Alphas, betas, harems” and so on are all crap, but the whole point of the “pair bonding” argument is that people with more promiscuous backgrounds are more (not 100% but more) likely to have a negative relationship experience, which and will ruin their ability to continue in relationships without fear and mistrust.

"Muh peak fertility.

Well, it's true. The peak of fertility for most men and women is before the age of 35, and the likelihood of congenital pathologies and problems during childbirth also increases with age. I don’t know how you can argue with such truth. Yes, in theory, you can have children at the age of 45, but this is very rare and the likelihood that everything will be fine... Unfortunately, quite low... (And even I have living examples of people who had children already after 40 years , but in the end it didn’t end perfectly, although the children are okay, thank God).

"Muh paternity."

Yes, and this is also true. Although recently (100 years out of 100,000+ years of the life of our species) problems with paternity assignment have greatly decreased but are still relevant, although yes, if a man or woman, without a real reason for mistrust (such as infidelity) does not trust his partner, then they It was not worth getting married in the first place, or agreeing on a test and having a baby.

Liking tall hot strong men is stupid because we have weapons now, but liking young virgins isn't even though we also have birth control and paternity testing. It's the exact same thing, just gender-flipped.

Nice strawman but oh well...

“Liking tall hot strong men is stupid” It’s really stupid, but not even because of the weapons (although our ancestors started making weapons millions of years ago, which is quite a long time, right?), but because associative mating is a thing. If you are a “tall hot woman” then nothing is stopping you “Liking tall hot strong men is stupid” and even most incels will shut up. Problems begin when ordinary, normal women don’t want ordinary, normal men, and that’s terrible.

"liking young virgins isn't even though we also have birth control and paternity testing" and this is controversial but not stupid... Starting at least with the fact that the full creation, distribution of contraception and the creation of genetic paternity tests is only the last century (unlike weapon concepts that are millions of years old), well, only if you are not talking about condoms from the intestines of some goat (but even this was available only to a few people in general). But yes, if some old brat who has had her fair share of sex demands only a “young virgin” then yes, this must be condemned because it is disgusting.

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No amount of calling men insecure is going to solve anything in terms of them being turned off by a woman’s count.

When people say this the goal is usually not to make men who are turned off by that stop being turned off by that. It’s to point out that only insecure men are having this problem, it’s just describing them, not expecting them to change.

When you date men you can see the pattern clearly. Some men just don’t care, they aren’t agonizing over it or thinking about it at all. They tend to be ones a bit more secure in themselves, they don’t suffer anxiety over it.

Then other men are worrying about it all the time, they ask women tons of questions trying to find out, they beat themselves up for it, they think about it a lot, it can be an actual obsession. These tend to be guys with a lot of anxiety and insecurities, they compare themselves to the guys they imagine in their heads and beat themselves up for it.

Men in general just don’t like the thought of women they care about being railed by other men. This isn’t limited to the wife/gf either. Includes mom, include grandma, includes their daughters and their sisters. It’s not pleasant to think about despite being reality.

The men who don’t care probably aren’t sitting around thinking of that. Men with high anxiety and insecurities, their mind seems to take them to negative places much more often.

So unless they’re a cuck, at best they can try to avoid the intrusive thoughts and not ask about it.

Men insulting other men just contributes to the anxiety men have over this. Now men who tend towards insecurity will also worry about men seeing them as a “cuck”. More secure guys might just not care what other men think and ignore the insulting other men do over this.

Some can’t avoid thinking about it

Yep, and it’s more often insecure anxious guys who can’t stop thinking about it.

Regardless, if a guy finds out about the number of dudes and it’s more they can stomach, calling him insecure won’t help in any way.

True, he might need therapy to have a chance at changing his thought patterns. It’s probably best for a woman facing that to leave and find a man who is already more secure in himself.

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Some men just don’t care, they aren’t agonizing over it or thinking about it at all.

Some men don't ask, not because they won't be bothered by it, but because ignorance is bliss. If a guy's daughter is going through a hoe phase in college, he's not going to ask because he doesn't want to know. If he inadvertently finds out, chances are most guys would not enjoy hearing that information.

they ask women tons of questions trying to find out

If you've been on Reddit for some time then you know there's plenty of cases where a man doesn't ask these questions, find our later, then is bothered by it. So again, not asking about it doesn't mean they won't be bothered by it. They're not asking questions they don't want to hear the answer to.

Men insulting other men just contributes to the anxiety men have over this. Now men who tend towards insecurity will also worry about men seeing them as a “cuck”.

So it's not okay to use the word cuck when it actually applies but it's okay to call men insecure?

I was using the urban definition of the word cuck.

Cuck: A cuckold, or cuck for short, is a person who finds sexual pleasure in their partner having intercourse with people that are not him.

So, like a said, the only man who would like the thought of his wife being plowed by other men would literally fall under this label. It's normal to not enjoy the thought of a wife, sister, or mother having sex. Tolerating the reality of it and not talking about it is not the same as liking it. I'm using the word cuck as you claimed earlier regarding the word insecure, "it’s just describing them."

True, he might need therapy to have a chance at changing his thought patterns.

Who gets to decide he needs to change his thoughts though? At the end of the day he can control who he dates. So it's up to the guy to decide if he wants to go through all that for a specific woman or move on to a different woman. In the same way women, with their icks can choose to tolerate it or move on.

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Male sluts collectively let everyone in on the fun.

Or instead of trying to spread so much hate, why not just acknowledge the biological differences between men and women. Females in ALL animal kingdoms are naturally the more choosy gender.

Just think, they bear the responsibility of childbirth and passing down mens generits to their offspring. A lot of men out here do not have genetics worth passing down, nor do a lot of men who are out here fucking women have the means or the interest in supporting the lives of the children they create.

Therefore, women HAVE TO be picky. Men can afford to let anyone in on the fun because they will generally take anyone because the quality of the person doesn't matter, whereas for women the quality of the man DOES.

I think you only want women to receive more hate because you don't like that when they choose to be sluts, they are not being a slut for you or for a wider range of men.

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Do you fuck men and women equally? Same number of each, same number of times for each gender?

If your answer is anything other than yes, then you're not only a hypocrite, but you must understand how infernally stupid your reasoning is and yet still bothered me with it anyway

You are not confused about the idea that dating is inherently discriminatory (starting with our sexual orientation). Be for real, please. There has never, at any point in history, anywhere on earth, been any kind of understanding or requirement that personal dating and courtship.must be equal-opportunity and subject to the exact same exact laws as businesses

And unless you don't understand the abstract concept of voluntary, then you also understand that baking does not inherently convey obligation

Like all voluntary activities

Me picking up trash on my street doesn't obligate me to personally clean up my entire city

Me dog-sitting for my friend doesn't obligate me to run a boarding operation for the entire state

There's zero chance you've managed the intelligence to make a comment on Reddit and not understand either of these concepts

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That's not how it works

Thank you for confirming your hypocrisy and the fact that you understood how stupid your "rebuttal" was, but made it anyway

If you've ever fucked a woman; kissed a woman; held hands with a woman; or been any kind of intimate with a woman in any way, then by your own retarded ass logic you need to do the exact same with a man

Luckily for you, since gay men are the most into NSA and casual relationships of any demographic, you've always had plenty of opportunity there

Not only do I not have an opportunity to fuck men and women equally

You do

Whether for free or for money

but if I didn't that would have nothing to do with hypocrisy.

You specifically responded to my point that sexual consent is not, nor does it have any reason to be transitive to act like government laws of discrimination should be, and have any reason to be equally applicable to personal relationships

Naturally, rendering the entire idea of consent null and void. Everything must be equal opportunity, all the time, in all areas of life

Hence your examples of "how about not baking cakes for people you don't want to bake cakes for? How about not hiring people you don't want to hire? How about not paying certain people as much as other people which you want to pay more?"

That was your own dumbshit argument, if we can't discriminate as a matter of business then we can't discriminate in our personal lives

Because professional, and personal, apparently have zero reasons to be evaluated by different standards

So I pointed out that if you don't also do everything equally, all the time, in all areas of life

You're a hypocrite

To which you just have excuses and hamstering

But even then, to address your question, I said no to men and women who asked if I could fuck them equal number of times.

You didn't answer my question at all

IDGAF about who you've said no to

I want to know about your equality of sexual behavior, not your fucking rejections

[–]Intelligent-InsightBlue Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for confirming your hypocrisy and the fact that you understood how stupid your "rebuttal" was, but made it anyway

I did none of that but you did confirm that you don't understand how logic and debating work with this sentence alone.

If you've ever fucked a woman; kissed a woman; held hands with a woman; or been any kind of intimate with a woman in any way, then by your own retarded ass logic you need to do the exact same with a man

Non sequitur. In no way that follows by "my" logic, which is not my logic, it's just logic.

Luckily for you, since gay men are the most into NSA and casual relationships of any demographic, you've always had plenty of opportunity there

Where? I was never pursued or approached by gay men. Maybe in your imaginary universe that's how it works, idk. When you start publishing your fairy tales, let us know We'll support. Maybe it explodes like Harry Potter.

You do

Whether for free or for money

No, I absolutely don't. And the fact that I could break the law doesn't help your case. Of course, I won't break the law.

Naturally, rendering the entire idea of consent null and void. Everything must be equal opportunity, all the time, in all areas of life

I didn't say it must be that. You probably need to read before responding.

That was your own dumbshit argument, if we can't discriminate as a matter of business then we can't discriminate in our personal lives

To no one's surprise after your previous comment and the first sentence of this comment, of course, you don't understand logic. That's not what I said at all. Especially, since business is personal life for those who own their own bakery, for example. We can and should be able to discriminate everywhere is what I'm saying, not that we shouldn't do it anywhere. Literally the opposite of what you are saying. Or what you said is fine, too. But we shouldn't pick and choose.

So I pointed out that if you don't also do everything equally, all the time, in all areas of life You're a hypocrite

You pointed out incorrectly. That's not what defines hypocrisy. For startes, because I didn't even say that somebody should do something. I made no affirmative statements.

You didn't answer my question at all

Yes, I did. You just asked it incorrectly.

IDGAF about who you've said no to I want to know about your equality of sexual behavior, not your fucking rejections

And that's what you got. I said no equally to everyone. When we're talking about discrimination that implies we're talking about reactions, not actions. A baker is not walking up to people on the street to tell them if he wants to bake for them or not. He's at the store reacting to his customers.

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