How the media reports female child rapists.

JestyerAverageJoe · 2017-01-18T16:20:20+00:00

Seduces

That's an interesting way to spell "was raped by."

xAsilos · 2017-01-18T17:22:18+00:00

Even if he was initially aggressive, she's old enough to make the cognitive decision that she shouldn't pursue it.

She ignored it, and slept with him. If this were a girl/man the media would crucify the man and have him castrated/hanged publicly.

Addictorator · 2017-01-18T17:06:58+00:00

Tfw a 13 year old boy can apparently "seduce" a hot woman. Fuck those pickup artists, guys should take notes from this kid! /s

So much for 'rape culture'. At least she's in jail, and the jury didn't fall for that shit.

Incident-Pit · 2017-01-18T16:29:44+00:00

Thought catalogue is basically a snazzier version of blogspot. Not "the Media" by any stretch. Your point still stands but this isn't evidence of it.

QuasiQwazi · 2017-01-18T17:27:09+00:00

Just like all those 9 year old girls in Afghanistan seducing those old men.

CellularPeptideCake · 2017-01-18T16:19:54+00:00

The headline is awful, but the end of the article wraps it up as the kind of sideshow that it is.

My main question after reading it is what the fuck is wrong with that kid's parents?

MrIste · 2017-01-18T17:56:06+00:00

"The Media"

An unknown blog with one like on their tweet doesn't really constitute "the media" to me.

Diablos_lawyer · 2017-01-18T17:23:50+00:00

So this article is making fun of the people who are defending her, by using this title... It ends with

Luckily their support means little to the judicial system, and Alexandria Vera has now been sentenced to 10 years in prison.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/gray-collins/2017/01/13-year-old-student-seduces-his-female-teacher-on-instagram-but-now-shes-in-jail/

AFuckYou · 2017-01-18T20:16:02+00:00

I think our whole system is outdated.

Unless it's forceable rape, we need to tone down the sentence, in fact, ruining someone's career seems like enough to me.

Both male and female.

And this is disgusting. We need flat penalties for crimes. FLAT PENALTIES. No men get this, blacks get this, women get this, etc. same penalties. And no discretion for for cops. No letting women off because their women.

We need a reform of the entire judicial system.

peekabook · 2017-01-18T17:37:27+00:00

This is sick. I can't imagine a 13 yr old kid putting on his rico suave moves and me not bust out laughing... I mean come on, "seduce"?! REALLY?! With what? His new mongoose bike, taking me on McDonald's dates, and showing me he can skate?

Good lord, the media is messed up.

Bergeron83 · 2017-01-18T17:39:40+00:00

Come on OP, this is a link from Thought Catalog. One garbage site does not equal the media.

JestyerAverageJoe · 2017-01-18T16:01:15+00:00

Archive this shit

jaheiner · 2017-01-18T17:08:27+00:00

Yes, a 13 year old child made that poor defenseless woman screw around with her!

Si_guey · 2017-01-18T18:08:59+00:00

Nicccccce

bazoos · 2017-01-18T19:32:59+00:00

"The media." Don't get me wrong, that headline is fucked up, but this is by no means the media.

DJ_Zephyr · 2017-01-18T18:13:36+00:00

If a teacher doesn't know about statutory rape laws (or can't agree to abide by them), she shouldn't be a teacher.

Jobe111 · 2017-01-18T19:38:28+00:00

A fucked up rationale for sure, but are we really going to credit one tweet as "the media"?

stash0606 · 2017-01-18T20:23:48+00:00

ok, what is going on with your notifications bar? get your priorities in order, man.

2017-01-18T21:15:09+00:00

This isn't a respected media source it's a fucking blog. This sub really has to reach huh.

trytoinjureme · 2017-01-18T19:22:57+00:00

Maybe we could acknowledge that there's a deep sexism in the way we treat "statutory rape" cases without taking the most punitive, moral-panicky, think-of-the-children position on the question.

trytoinjureme · 2017-01-18T19:51:43+00:00

Call her what she is. A fucking pedophile.

Edit: ok child molester works better.

2017-01-18T19:51:52+00:00

This is sooooooooo fucked.

the_surfing_unicorn · 2017-01-18T20:27:08+00:00

Every other news report I've seen about this case has put the blame on her. Not sure how one shitty outlet can be generalized as the "media"

2017-01-18T21:18:12+00:00

To be fair, thought catalog isn't really the media. I'm pretty sure anyone can post anything on thought catalog. It's more like a metablog

0ctopus · 2017-01-18T17:14:47+00:00

If the 13 year old were a girl I wonder how they would have played this?

RabbiDickButt · 2017-01-18T17:36:37+00:00

I'm wondering how the parents aren't at fault too.

Fascists_Blow · 2017-01-18T19:02:59+00:00

Thought catalog, truly the best representation of the media.

Zultain7 · 2017-01-18T19:19:16+00:00

Nice

MartianParadigmSlip · 2017-01-18T19:42:26+00:00

Sorry but if I was 13 I would have sold all of my GI Joes to climb up on that.

DoctorShuckle · 2017-01-18T18:36:04+00:00

Children have crushes, and sometimes they are on older people. It's the responsibility of an adult to deny all advances by the child. It is also their responsibility to tell the kid why it's a no go if the child refuses to stop. The kid should have known better, but not all kids can apply what they know immidiately. The adult definitely should have known better, since they have had years of experience in the adult world and aren't governed by a teenagers hormonal system. This shit is supposed to be common sense, but not for pedophiles I guess.

2017-01-18T21:04:31+00:00

How the media reports female child rapists

How Thought Catalog reports female child rapists.

FTFY I saw plenty of news outlets report on this properly and assigning blame to the teacher.

Don't take some fringe Twitter feed and apply their actions to the entire media.

That is very poor reasoning on your part.

not-a-spoon · 2017-01-18T21:12:38+00:00

Thought Catalog is a collection of hobbyists writing columns. They are media in the same way someone with a tumblr account is media. Lets not make this bigger than it is.

jon_the_ninja · 2017-01-18T21:22:30+00:00

But if the roles were flipped and it was a 13 year old girl and a male teacher, ohhhh boyyyy.

steveryans2 · 2017-01-19T01:50:42+00:00

"Well your honor she seduced me!" "I know I know, but my hands are tied, it's with great reluctance I sentence you to prison for 15 years Mr. Williams though we all know she was the one pushing for it" -no judge ever, and were it to happen whole towns would burn down

quiznex · 2017-01-18T18:38:28+00:00

To be clear, he did contact her and did what any person who wanted to have sex do is keep pestering the person until 1) they have sex or 2) gets told no. (Yes, it's more complicated than that but you get the idea)

She didn't stop him and enjoyed the attention she was getting instead of being an adult. This was an inappropriate relationship that he started but her being an ADULT should have ended it before it began. Let your principal know, anyone know what is going on but, nope, she enjoyed the attention and continued this relationship.

So, technically, the title is correct but she is a fuckin' adult! Be an adult. You should know right from wrong, a child does not.

euphonious_munk · 2017-01-18T19:39:04+00:00

In fairness she probably made this decision in a cloud of his Axe body spray. For what grown woman could resist the charms of a 13-year-old boy?

canering · 2017-01-18T20:10:28+00:00

How does a child seduce an adult. Like no matter what they say or do, it's a child. Any adult who finds their advances appealing is disturbed

bobsaget91 · 2017-01-18T20:44:12+00:00

"Thought Catalog" represents the entire media? Never heard of them, just like I've never heard this crime framed this way.

2017-01-18T21:34:34+00:00

To be fair, even Thought Catalog's readers know this is bullshit. All of these replies are from women.

cabe565 · 2017-01-18T20:34:19+00:00

How are 13-year-olds seducing attractive women and I'm 26 and single?

fookajew · 2017-01-19T04:12:39+00:00

I was the "victim" of a very similar situation when I was barely 15, and all I can ever think about is how no one would ever say I was a victim of statutory rape. It went on for almost three years until I turned 18, and by then the fun loving times with an extremely attractive 40 year old had turned into a convoluted situation that I found myself completely and utterly stuck in. Her wanting to leave her husband and kids to make a life with me, and me thinking to myself wtf happened. How did it turn into this craziness. I was all alone after almost three years of lying to literally everyone to cover up our affair. I ended up breaking down and telling my mother everything, then I almost immediately went off to my freshman year of college and left it all in the past. I'm almost 24 now and that experience has without a doubt changed my life. I was depressed for years and constantly thought of suicide. It's turned out ok now and I'm in a good place thanks to good people, but not a day goes by that I don't think about what happened and how that came to be. It's very fucked up to me now, but when I was 15 it was absolutely amazing. That's why women not being able to take advantage of men is a ridiculous thought

Redox80 · 2017-01-18T20:02:42+00:00

TIL a tweet by some random website named "Thought Catalog" represents the entire mainstream media.

I am a man looking to forward the rights of all men and women bit this trend of using the worst examples of "the other side" to prove whatever point your trying to make only hurts the cause. Is this really the kind of content /r/mensrights wants to represent us on the front page of reddit? My expectations are probably to high but i think we can do better than peddling this nonsense.

gummz13 · 2017-01-18T19:43:51+00:00

Even as this is clearly not right, I don't think it is right to put someone in jail for 10 years for having consensual sex with a 13 year old. (I know he is to young to "legally" consent but still.)

PM-ME-YOUR-DOGPICS · 2017-01-18T19:25:11+00:00

After the open house, she accompanied the student to his home where she was introduced as his girlfriend to the parents. Vera said that she was received very warmly, and the student’s parents even began inviting her to family functions. The student and his teacher’s relationship grew, and they saw each other and had sex often.

Don’t these people understand statutory rape is crime? Nevertheless, there are Facebook pages filled with thousands of people defending Vera.

What the fuck is wrong with everyone

Electroverted · 2017-01-18T18:36:19+00:00

The comments there are vile, but then so is the profile. Just never-ending clickbait bullshit.

phforNZ · 2017-01-18T19:38:24+00:00

Our news headline was "Texas teacher who had sex almost daily with 13-year-old student gets 10 years in prison"

JFMX1996 · 2017-01-18T20:00:18+00:00

Unfuckingbelievable

Half_Man1 · 2017-01-18T20:27:16+00:00

Don't these people understand statutory Rape is a crime?

Evidently your editor doesn't.

End of the article summarizes by saying "good ridance" basically. The clip bait title worked btw.

tomaidoh · 2017-01-18T20:53:21+00:00

That reminds me of this.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5673291

LordQuagga · 2017-01-18T21:30:12+00:00

"Pedophile 'seduced' by 13 year old"

lordmuffinpants · 2017-01-18T23:46:54+00:00

but women only 77 days in jail for every 100 man get ... lets get the feminist on this... EQUALITY NOW !

Vikarious · 2017-01-19T01:46:42+00:00

Wow that's disgusting

Patriarchy_HQ · 2017-01-19T02:04:07+00:00

I love the update (emphasis mine):

Update: This piece is based on the language and storyline directly from police investigations. Nowhere does the writer show support for someone who committed statutory rape. Language has been added to the piece to make it abundantly clear that Vera was in the wrong, and that it is the overwhelming opinion of reasonable people that those defending her are incorrect.

Which would be fine, if the title itself still wasn't the horribly biased:

13-Year-Old Student Seduces His Female Teacher On Instagram, But Now She’s In Jail

cyclostationary · 2017-01-18T19:59:15+00:00

The fuck, thought catalog is not the media. No journalists are writing this headline. What a cock of fake fucking outrage. Pathetic.

OfficerWhiskers · 2017-01-18T21:50:13+00:00

Niiiiice

mentor972 · 2017-01-18T22:10:23+00:00

Niiicccceeeee!

NorthernSpectre · 2017-01-19T01:19:00+00:00

wew, sounds like someone is trivializing statutory rape.. I wonder if there is a word for such a thing?

Petrichor_Rains · 2017-01-18T19:35:12+00:00

Feminist here (sorry). Just wanna say that me and my friends agree that that's a horrible was to report that. They should call it for what it is: Statutory rape.

COMPTONOAK · 2017-01-18T21:01:14+00:00

NIIIIIICCCCEEEE

Chef_Lebowski · 2017-01-18T17:37:12+00:00

/r/pussypassdenied

tobasoft · 2017-01-18T19:22:28+00:00

niceee

BackBroke · 2017-01-18T18:56:53+00:00

This kid will have bragging rights for the rest of his life.

JFKFC1 · 2017-01-18T16:44:49+00:00

He, she, what?

PM_DAT_HOOTIE_GIRL · 2017-01-18T21:33:22+00:00

She can rape me any time

Talkingarb · 2017-01-18T22:29:09+00:00

I have a friend who ended up being so 'lucky' to get with his female teacher when he was around 14. Years later it really messed with him, he ended up telling his parents and the police. They prosecuted her, but the paedophile only got some small sentence like 2 years. It was disgusting

2017-01-18T21:11:54+00:00

when i was young i would have loved to bang my attractive teachers.

Rayhann · 2017-01-18T18:20:42+00:00

Something interesting is going on here. I never heard of Thought Catalog so the first thing I did was read the article then look up on the site. IT's a pretty big website owned by Warner Bros. So then I searched up big entertainment titans and see what they owned and what those media outlets reported.

My conclusion is that feminism is sold as a brand. All of this, a part of neoliberalism. They are selling to the masses and to themselves a certain.. zeitgeist so whatever they write must promote the zeitgeist - it seems to be a sort of bias. Perhaps groupthink or something related to it. Labeling "female child rapist" does not fit into the promotion of branded feminism; not the academic kind, the more complex kind.

But hey, that's just my two cents on all-ah-dis. Just a few quick google searches. Thought it was interesting nuff so wanted to share with yall. Probably didn't make any sense

vrthrowaway420 · 2017-01-18T20:02:26+00:00

Really? You're gonna pretend that 'Though catalogue' is representative of how the media reports female child rapists?

Eat a dick, OP.

Dsalter123 · 2017-01-18T18:46:13+00:00

I guess the mom jokes paid off

eadala · 2017-01-18T19:16:21+00:00

This sub is just food for depression and it really hurts to be here for more than an hour at a time... what is anybody doing about anything? Any of the issues raised, what are we doing other than posting them to /r/MensRights and saying "look at this bullshit"? That's what really brings me down... I like the sub and the people here are nice, but it just seems like a collective kicking-n-screaming to the grave, rather than a movement toward any sort of progress?

newmilwaukee · 2017-01-18T19:34:36+00:00

Lol, I thought it was going to be for taking that selfie while driving. It wasn't

PeterPorky · 2017-01-18T19:37:18+00:00

Disgusting.

prozach50 · 2017-01-18T19:37:37+00:00

Let's reverse that and see how it sounds

xGrayf0x · 2017-01-18T19:38:31+00:00

Kid has relations with hot teacher. Randy marsh: Niiiiccceeee

2017-01-18T19:50:54+00:00

It's always a very attractive, flattering photo of the female as well meant to incite a sexual response in the male viewers, making them typically miss the whole point. Let's face it, women aren't really pushing for these women to get punished, so if men are all too horned up to see clearly this problem will persist.

Horny-ness and a general pathetic level of "thirst" for sex is about 90% of the reason this sub even has to exist.

Wraith8888 · 2017-01-18T19:53:44+00:00

Am I the only one that after reading the article sees that the title was sarcasm? He concludes that she got what she deserved.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/gray-collins/2017/01/13-year-old-student-seduces-his-female-teacher-on-instagram-but-now-shes-in-jail/

Bayerrc · 2017-01-18T20:07:56+00:00

I think we need to get rid of the blanket term "media". Thought catalog posts shit like this next to "how to fall in love with any zodiac sign using just one word"

2017-01-18T20:17:11+00:00

This may belong here.

Luis_McLovin · 2017-01-18T20:18:53+00:00

Abesolutely disgusting.

GunsGermsAndSteel · 2017-01-18T20:23:06+00:00

"13 year old girl sperm-jacks Mexican gardener, now HE'S in jail".

worstkeptsecrets · 2017-01-18T20:23:40+00:00

Is that post even considered "The Media"????

TimSPC · 2017-01-18T20:38:24+00:00

Ahh yes, that bastion of the mainstream media, Thought Catalog. To think of all the Pulitzers they've won and now this.

PeterMus · 2017-01-18T20:49:21+00:00

Tl;dr

13 year old student pursuea teacher. Teacher begins a relationship with the student. Introduces the teacher to his parents as his GIRLFRIEND and they reguarly have sex at his home and the teachers home. Shes even invited by the parents to family events.

Teacher geta pregnant and has abortion. Finally questioned by child services and is now facing 10 years in jail.

Where the hell are the charges against the parents who encouraged their relationship?

idlefritz · 2017-01-18T20:51:20+00:00

I definitely think there's a double standard, but "the media" is a pretty broad term in this case. That Thought Catalog looks like bots masquerading as Hot Topic staffers. When you look at the google 1st page results for [+13 +year +old +teacher] you'd see that this is the only one characterizing the story this way and likely is only on the front page due to sharing it in forums like this one. Bot promoting trash, discussing trash on Facebook/Reddit is how you get inundated with trash and begin to believe it's a real discussion.

kingcowman · 2017-01-18T21:00:22+00:00

The article says they had "sex daily" but given that she was his English teacher maybe he just had dyslexia and she was giving him daily tutoring to help him out.

And by tutoring I mean sex.

Buttclock · 2017-01-18T21:46:58+00:00

God damn this is shameless

cameronwhite1995 · 2017-01-18T21:49:31+00:00

There is absolutely a double standard. That said, "the media"? Who the fuck is the thought catalog

2017-01-18T22:03:32+00:00

Rage inducing.

God-is-the-Greatest · 2017-01-18T22:03:52+00:00

MFW 13 year olds can seduce women yet a late teenager like me is still a virgin :(

PotatoDonki · 2017-01-18T22:26:50+00:00

I am continually stunned by the traction gained by the weak-ass arguments for feminist-claimed "rape culture" when I see things like this, that seem to only raise a few sets of eyebrows.

When I was like 8, my neighbor's crack-addicted mother pinned me down, mounted me and rubbed our privates together (through clothes). I don't remember how it stopped, but it stopped there. If she had gone further, what would they have written about me in the papers?

JewishIslamist · 2017-01-18T22:44:23+00:00

Women are always victims.

kingfagit · 2017-01-18T22:48:29+00:00

All of these comments saying it's good he got laid and he has bragging rights. I suppose it is good this happened. I mean, when I was sexually harassed against my will in middle school by a group of girls, I SHOULD have wanted it and used the situation to brag, but now I just have general trust issues with women.

I'm sure I'll stop being a pussy some day, though.

slytree · 2017-01-18T23:54:31+00:00

"Nice"

DanGarion · 2017-01-18T23:57:51+00:00

But where is the link to her Instagram account?!?!?!

2017-01-19T00:30:12+00:00

Women have no agency and the world; the Western one and actually most of it.. Claim this... Want it... And cheer for it... Male = dominance, female = submission. We're in for a wild ride for the next 25yrs ..

IHv2RtrnSumVdeotapes · 2017-01-19T00:37:14+00:00

That's not a real picture of the woman id imagine ?

BITCRUSHERRRR · 2017-01-19T01:16:16+00:00

WHAT!?!?!? This legitimately pissed me the fuck off.

Door2doorcalgary · 2017-01-19T01:33:32+00:00

I wouldn't call that the media

2017-01-19T01:42:38+00:00

Yeah, it's kind of like when my 13 year old nephew convinced me to let him drive my mustang GT. For some reason when he ran over a few pedestrians and crashed into a house, they threw ME in jail! Something about children not being adults and being unable to judge the consequences of certain actions, and something about, being an adult in a position to provide a certain level of care for the child makes me responsible for putting the keys into his hand and saying "go for it!"...

I made this up, just wanted to get that out there before someone takes me seriously.

chinamanbilly · 2017-01-19T01:46:06+00:00

Implying that women are so weak-minded that a grown woman gets seduced by a child.

ajkowalski · 2017-01-19T03:40:12+00:00

13-Year-Old girl seduces her male teacher on Instagram, but now he's in jail

Gs305 · 2017-01-19T05:32:06+00:00

Who the fuck is Thought Catalog?

ohiBROfratstar · 2017-01-19T06:10:04+00:00

Bruh, check your twitter

nuesuh · 2017-01-19T09:49:00+00:00

If you can be seduced by a 13 year old, you shouldn't be walking freely.

CisWhiteMealWorm · 2017-01-19T10:11:36+00:00

See: Lena Dunham.

Dnile1000BC · 2017-01-20T01:29:13+00:00

This is toxic feminity and female privilege all rolled into one.

leavemebebby · 2017-01-22T07:15:51+00:00

OP your notifications are poppin

2017-02-05T01:12:15+00:00

Jesus fucking Christ.

rootednewt · 2017-04-10T06:23:37+00:00

This is exactly what south park parodied against, .....nice

2017-01-18T19:39:26+00:00

The tweet literally only has one like lmao y'all stop acting as if CNN tweeted this shit out

Addictorator · 2017-01-18T19:33:04+00:00

"13-Year-Old Student Seduces Her Male Teacher on Instagram, But Now He's In Jail."

Would anybody find that title appropriate for any article? No? I didn't think so either.

Rethgil · 2017-01-18T20:44:42+00:00

One of the biggest papers in Britain reported this crime as "woman SLEEPS with student, is jailed".

Isn't it amazing how whenever a woman rapes, everybody falls "asleep"?

...in more ways than one.

uglydavie · 2017-01-18T22:49:38+00:00

Here is the article. It literally defends the boy and calls it statutory rape. The title is just to grab attention and ridicule the people who were defending the rapist.

flaminmen · 2017-01-18T19:15:31+00:00

Nice!

mcraamu · 2017-01-18T21:10:00+00:00

I don't have anything to add, Im just here to upvote every single "nice" in this thread. Every single one.

Smilme · 2017-01-18T18:58:46+00:00

That kid has more game than half the male population combined

gtfotheinternetlol · 2017-01-18T20:06:16+00:00

God I just love boobs.

2017-01-18T20:46:38+00:00

nice

2017-01-18T21:09:03+00:00

Nice.

cxj · 2017-01-18T16:54:57+00:00

LMAO the first paragraphs read like a backwards TRP field report with him seducing her by being an asshole lol. I don't believe it tho

kluh100 · 2017-01-18T20:22:17+00:00

That kid is a G!

sonofdad420 · 2017-01-18T21:13:29+00:00

is she hot?

niceee

deeterman · 2017-01-18T20:22:15+00:00

Hot damn I wish she would have raped me when I was that age.

AgrDotA · 2017-01-18T19:39:33+00:00

Nice.

YouSmellOfButterfly · 2017-01-18T20:25:41+00:00

This case was posted to morbidreality, and every other comment was defending that the kid was "biologically ready" and "wasn't traumatized" by this. Check my post history if you're a masochist. It's truly, truly disgusting.

Spoogen_1 · 2017-01-18T20:51:17+00:00

This shit makes me mad.

KiwiPlanet · 2017-01-18T22:54:17+00:00

She was jailed, end of it. Are you guys outraged because of some stupid random clickbait article?

Welcome to the internet I guess.

2017-01-18T23:18:57+00:00

listen .. this is 100% wrong and people like this need to rot in jail

but .. where the fk were all these teachers when I was 13

Damichem · 2017-01-18T22:20:01+00:00

Why is it rape if he wanted to have sex with her?

JesusLovesMyProstate · 2017-01-18T19:26:52+00:00

I think it's fine if teenager has a sex with a non teenager.

Title	How the media reports female child rapists.
Author	Pacific_Loon
Upvotes	20078
Comments	476
Date	January 18, 2017 3:21 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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