The biggest misunderstanding about TRP comes from the fact that very low percentage of men who try it actually make it

ComfortableJeans · 2023-11-03T20:24:42+00:00

The Red Pill in and of itself is a Black Pill on women.

If women truly are when the Red Pill says they are, then only a fool would pursue women. Only a fool would knowingly love a woman who would leave for a man of higher status and wealth.

If women are universally, by definition of being a woman, hypergamous, monkey branching gold diggers, then the only sensible option is to cut them off entirely from your life.

The Red Pill is a Black Pill, depending on how you view relationships.

Personally, if women truly are as the Red Pill describes them, then fuck 'em. I don't want them.

I don't believe they're all like that, which is why I wouldn't write someone off for being a woman, but if I were to believe the Red Pill, then I would without hesitation.

Edit: Actually, I would go so far as to say that, that if a man truly believed women to be what the Red Pill describes them as, and still chose to associate with them, I would consider that to be an act of disrespect toward the self.

Safinated · 2023-11-04T00:29:14+00:00

There’s no misunderstanding about TRP. Most people just aren’t into hostile, biased and exaggerated messaging, because it’s inaccurate, unappealing and of limited use

Wattehfok · 2023-11-03T22:41:35+00:00

This is No True Scotsman gibberish.

Sorry champ - you’re gonna have to accept all the dumb, sad, ugly and nerdy parts of your “movement”.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2023-11-03T20:21:19+00:00

99 percent of TRP is dudes skipping over all the “lift weights, make money, dress with style, and go out and be the social guy every wants around” and instead bitching about “female nature/bluepill lied/my ex was a biiiitch!”

Over and over and over.

It’s a bunch of internet talkers spending thief days taking about the RP online. Actually doing shit takes time and effort that they seem to be allergic to

“If you truly could be Red Pilled, you wouldn’t ever have needed TRP in the first place”

techr0nin · 2023-11-03T23:03:31+00:00

The biggest misunderstanding of the Redpill actually comes from the fact that a very low percentage of men that talk about it actually try it at all.

Going to the gym, making more money, and learning to be social is hard. Easier to whine about women on the internet.

Pola_Lita · 2023-11-03T21:16:40+00:00

One of the basic tenets of TRP is learning how to manipulate a woman into behaving in a way that is self-destructive and automatically causing her to lose value, according to other tenets of TRP.

Beyond that, it doesn't make much difference what anyone knows about TRP.

Realistic-Ad-1023 · 2023-11-03T21:04:54+00:00

96% of men get married at least once in their lifetime. 60% of first time marriages last a lifetime.

Your math ain’t mathing.

twistednormz · 2023-11-03T20:51:27+00:00

at least 80% of men who will not make it

Will not make what? Way more than 20% of men get sex/a girlfriend/a wife or long term partner. What goal do you have in mind when you say they won't make it?

improving yourself as a man takes a LOT of hard work which most men aren't ready to do.

Well, without sounding mean, that's their own problem. If people aren't prepared to do the hard work to get what they want in life, nobody is likely to hand them what they want. What do you expect?

And even if you do that work it doesn't guarantee a result (going from 2/10 to say 5/10 nad improving financially as well as mentally still won't make you attractive to most of women).

Um, yeah, the majority of regular people won't be attractive to most of the opposite sex. You don't need to be attractive to most in order to have the life you want. You only need to be attractive to one person who is also attractive to you to have a relationship, although people are generally not that extreme. The majority of people are attractive to some, but not most, and that's enough for the majority of people to get the type of life they want.

Going back to your title :

The biggest misunderstanding about TRP comes from the fact that very low percentage of men who try it actually make it

This is not a misunderstanding. Of course most men who try to be redpill don't "make it". Of course men who try the redpill are unlikely to be appealing to women in general, and unlikely to find meaningful relationships.

mods_have_small_ween · 2023-11-03T20:21:30+00:00

took me 12 years if I count the time I spent building my career. 4 years more generally on self improvement.

Engineer in tech. 6 years of schooling post secondary, 16 hours a day grinding my ass off. 4.5 years working 8.5 hour days learning to be the best software engineer I could be. One application and I'm making multi six figures in the highest paying companies.

During those 4.5 years working 8.5 hour days I was ghosted on dating apps repeatedly after 1-3 msgs.

Got pilled, got fit/muscular, and had 8 dates scheduled within 1 week of updating my photos. Multiple sexual experiences in a month. Women literally throwing themselves at me.

I validated the red pill. It took 12 years

Becoming chad is very difficult and I do not think any one of my struggling friends could do it. They were the ones who when we would play games they would dick around and not take things seriously. I wanted to win. I had the energy and discipline to see it through. Most men do not.

SO I agree. Taking the red pill and working on yourself is not easy. I think most men can do it, they just have to accept it and get it done. Man the fuck up. You can die alone or level up. Your choice.

Ok-Process-9795 · 2023-11-03T20:49:29+00:00

Something that only works under ideal circumstances doesn't work.

gordonwestcoast · 2023-11-03T22:37:15+00:00

If someone bashes women and emits negative energy he just isn't redpilled (yet) and shouldn't be considered as an example of TRP

I agree, TRP is not related to bashing women and emitting negative energy. It's about understanding women and having positive energy!

Salt_Mathematician24 · 2023-11-03T22:52:10+00:00

The biggest problem of TRP is it excarberates all existing problems with gender relations and takes it up to eleven, in a time that it more than certainly no longer fits, but instead wills itself to work, and is one of the biggest issues in modern dating dynamics among things like social media and dating sites, which in themselves at least had innocuous intentions, unlike the aforementioned red pill, which is soley self-service to the (short-lived) detriment of others. I say short lived because every red-pill fueld relationship is destined to fail, that's if you even get one with you bullshittery.

It's the biggest idiot pill ever and relies on the vulnerability of others (particularly neuro-divergent). It is almost criminal.

No_Constant7907 · 2023-11-04T02:04:24+00:00

The red pill is complete fabrication

63% of men in America become fathers and 50% of the celibate men do so by choice.

The redpill is based on dating app data. Census dat shows that men have relationships at the same rate as women and sex at the same rate too.

Turbulent-Tonight975 · 2023-11-03T22:09:58+00:00

I think you only look at the TRP in terms of how men see it for themselves as individuals. I think TRP should be seperated into 2 areas: 1 being how it affects men in their individual lives, and 2 how society looks at men on a macro level. The first area of men in their personal lives is where individual men can make choices that affect themselves and their life. Areas like career, personal development, physical development, learning social skills reading books, social activities, etc., can meaningfully make a man more attractive and have better dating options.

Your post doesn't in any way address the second issue in terms of men are looked on a societal level as a whole. Look at Hollywood, the media, and academia as examples of macro level scructures that have a clear as day massive bias against men. Men are portrayed very negatively and mens issues are either ignored, discounted, or only discussed in terms of how they affect women.

I think TRP often conflates these issues because the macro level trends of devaluing men will often set the frame on what women see and how they feel and view individual men. These issues become very complicated when looking at macro trends of broad society that are made up by an infinite number of subcomponents.

I think you are righ and wrong in the sense that many men turn to TRP in apathy, but the entire other branch of TRP is probably bringing in more men who are just tired to society that depends on men for most of the most important jobs, yet devalues and belittles men in ways that would be completely socially unacceptable if applied to women in the same way.

EastSideSlasha · 2023-11-03T21:14:59+00:00

Red pill is all about accepting responsibility and improving, to me at least

DerayRevan · 2023-11-03T20:28:26+00:00

Well the thing about self-improvement, should always be about yourself, that's what we always say that mental origin should start with you and not the women

Can you attract more women by self-improving ? Well obviously, if you make more money or work out, your probably gonna get more female attention than before but the purpose of self-improvement should always start with yourself, because to be honest you don't need all this self-improving stuff to get laid, you can laid just by staying the average blupill guy. You self-improve for your own benefit

I would also argue there's no such thing as being redpilled but just redpill "awareness" , example of this would be a guy getting a prenup for his marriage because his aware of the statistical fact majority of divorces are initiated by women or women love opportunistically, so when he gets cheated on, his able to identify the reason easily

And this is my battle with tradcons,femininits and especially bluepillers. TRP is not a Ideology or a prescription at it's core, it's simply being aware of both male/female nature. How you move differently or stay the same after knowing all this is up to you

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Electronic_West_1831 · 2023-11-03T22:03:01+00:00

If it’s a lot of work and doesn’t guarantee success, then what’s the point?

caption291 · 2023-11-04T01:57:36+00:00

The red pill at it's core is supposed to be an understanding of reality. Not a specific strategy you adopt as an individual within that reality.

I assume the character you related to the most in the matrix was Cypher because he just wants whatever is best for him. Neo is not any less redpilled just because he doesn't agree with you that the machines have already won and that the best strategy is to bend over backwards and do whatever they want.

If someone bashes women and emits negative energy he just isn't redpilled

Neo is still redpilled even tough he fights back against the machines.

EsotericRonin · 2023-11-04T06:19:47+00:00

Very few men actually try it to begin with... LMAO.

Rogue5454 · 2023-11-04T08:35:57+00:00

What does the “red pill” teach exactly?

upsidemaze · 2023-11-04T13:59:29+00:00

Isnt that life, very small percentage of people will ride a private jet.

Thats the thing, all we can do is be selfish and extract as mush value from society while doing minimum work

gordonwestcoast · 2023-11-04T15:27:54+00:00

What does "make it" mean? Is there a universal checklist somewhere? Has a man who focuses on himself and his career and improved himself "made it?"

PradaAndPunishment · 2023-11-04T15:48:43+00:00

When marriages fail 50% of couples, that's proof that the institution of marriage should be avoided, but when the TRP fails 80% of men, suddenly the men just aren't doing it right? Comedic stuff.

MidoriEgg · 2023-11-04T18:07:00+00:00

I think there can be some useful parts in the red pill for very social anxious and isolated men to try and make a difference in their life.

But there seems to be a lot of men who claim to follow a lot of the red pill beliefs but don’t do anything to improve themselves, are chronically online and make the most insane and neurotic takes on gender politics and relationships (like obsessing over that account that draws green lines through couples) and have become just so detached from relality.

BlackGriffin_1 · 2023-11-04T19:01:32+00:00

Finally someone with some common sense in this sub Reddit

Title	The biggest misunderstanding about TRP comes from the fact that very low percentage of men who try it actually make it
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Date	November 3, 2023 8:12 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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