If all men are assholes and all women are evil, they why the hell are you here amongst that which you hate and fear?

AggroWeasel · 2022-02-03T14:15:44+00:00

Because I still want sex.

Iceklimber · 2022-02-03T11:50:22+00:00

I believe OP underestimates Biology to dismiss it so fast.

Women and men are wildly different creatures, visible at either the microscale of biochemical processes or the macro scale of policies enacted eversince women got the right to vote.

As to my presence here, only the fool believes to knows everything. There is room for expanding my mind and the topics here are not discussed that way in polite society.

MarBitt · 2022-02-03T08:59:51+00:00

If all men are assholes and all women are evil, they why the hell are you here amongst that which you hate and fear?

I call it home.

Perseus_the_Bold · 2022-02-03T07:15:45+00:00

Know thy enemy?

YetAnotherCommenter · 2022-02-03T10:39:26+00:00

Because all men are not assholes and all women are not evil.

A lot of pill rhetoric is not literal. A lot of it is venting and/or therapeutic.

However the blunt reality is that people looking for a relationship want something that they believe is in their own interests, and few people want to compromise (and sexual attraction, in particular, cannot be negotiated). In addition, you can look at how laws in particular serve to make men risk-averse regarding commitment (men have higher exit costs than women in the developed western world).

Additionally, the pillosphere and the FDS/Misandrist-Feminist sphere tend to attract people whom have gotten the short end of the stick in relationships (whether due to losing genetic lotteries or being fucked in divorce court or being false-rape-accused on twitter or anything along those lines). So of course you'll see the most unhappy, the most miserable, the most bitter (often for understandable reasons).

So of course the rhetoric here is often somewhat more heated than the actual reality. I almost wonder what PPD would be like if everyone were on Valium at the same time...

....Oh, and even if men resent and are bitter about women, if they're opposite-sex-attracted to any degree they sometimes want to have sex with women. The craving for sex, for men, is much more intense than what women experience (ask any transman and they'll tell you what testosterone does to the libido!). I'm lucky being bisexual but most men identify as heterosexual... lots of men crave sex with at least some specific women even if they have resentments and issues about "women in general" broadly speaking.

But yes. Men are not assholes and women are not evil. Humans are self-interested and putting that into the matrix of institutions that make up our sexual/relationship marketplace results in many difficult situations.

yabbobay · 2022-02-03T11:56:26+00:00

I like reading different perspectives. Whether I agree with them or not.

wtknight · 2022-02-03T13:26:37+00:00

Men want sex with these women so they seem enough understanding of them so that they can achieve that.

I’m not sure why the women who hate men are here, though. Probably just to strike back at men collectively for past traumas, I’m guessing.

lulll · 2022-02-03T14:21:50+00:00

im just here for the bpd hoes

StillTangerine · 2022-02-03T14:43:57+00:00

Women aren't evil, just shallow. Plus I don't interact with them either way.

StarchRunner · 2022-02-03T16:18:06+00:00

As a dedicated misanthrope, I like seeing people suffer.

I think God must be one too and why Ghe is such a constant voyeur. "Life is suffering." By design. Now dance, you ants!

TheRedPillRipper · 2022-02-03T08:46:33+00:00

that which you hate and fear

Just trying to keep an open mind. There’s enough hate and fear in the world. Hopefully in contrast, I’m spreading a little love and hope.

Godspeed and good luck!

tonyghow · 2022-02-03T16:39:14+00:00

Because we all want to find the exception to the asshole/evil rule.

A kind, caring, cute woman who isn't abrasive and not a status seeking vine swinger is hard to find, but men hope they exist and are still single.

A confident, ambitious, tall, and loyal man is hard to find, but women hope they exist and are still single.

dreadgamedurmum · 2022-02-03T09:32:32+00:00

Men and women have different instincts. We have all have false expectations because these instincts aren't ever discussed. But these instincts can be reconciled to have a more harmonious relationship.

I'm here to create chaos

ChibsFilipTelfordd · 2022-02-03T08:17:29+00:00

Most people don't think either, even here

chromie96 · 2022-02-03T09:19:14+00:00

I honestly joined this sub to humanize RPers in my mind. I don't hate all men but I've seen so many RP shit that talks about women in these disgusting ways and my "there is more good than bad in the world" heart needed to see the humanity in this group. And it has helped. I have changed my view that RP men are not all assholes. Some are.

I also love to debate people.

BloofGoober · 2022-02-03T14:00:31+00:00

I'm at war with you demons.

I'm fighting for my fuckin' life.

redback-spider · 2022-02-03T16:31:57+00:00

behaving "evil" is not the same as being evil. I describe it often with I don't get mad if a lion plays with his pray, they are not evil it's nature, as so do women 24/7 cruel things at least to a high % for biological reasons. In other words I don't essentialise it.
MGTOW channel got blocked, sure there are other services but of course you want some level of disagreement, and often I disagree on them with other things, I am no american right winger that believes that taxes are theft.

It's a intellectual often fun thing to argue about that stuff, especially if you often win the debates. If it's only about how applicible it is to my live I would probably never go to any place about that topic and talk to nobody. No place with only man or people that think the same or differ with me.

Zcuzz · 2022-02-03T07:32:49+00:00

I'm an asshole who likes evil women

skunkbear444 · 2022-02-03T07:43:51+00:00

Because a bad slip to blue pill island can end in unwanted children, a broken family, divorce, losing your home, a false accusation.

Falling deeply for someone can come with a lot of consequences so it is good to be informed.

No one wants to be: "Did the marriage thing, never again!" "Can't see my kids they live 5 states away it kills me!" "I'll never be able to retire and live poor most of the rest of my life" "I don't trust women/men anymore I have been heartbroken too many times". "Dead bedroom for a decade will never forget how unwanted I felt".

People are much more wary of loss. Loss can easily change the rest of your life. Gains come and go and the dopamine wears off. Losses can really fuck you hard.

modidlee · 2022-02-03T14:31:16+00:00

Most mgtow and redpill “coaches” are actually in relationships and actively dating. All the hardcore redpill philosophy goes out the window when a guy meets a woman he likes who actually likes him back. But all the redpill stuff comes back when she dumps him. Just like women who say men are trash stop talking like that when they meet a guy who’s actually good. But when he turns out to not be perfect she’s back to saying men are trash

Hashashin_ · 2022-02-03T09:57:09+00:00

If you think the recent state of men and women being distant and avoidant of one another, especially in developed countries, wasn't entirely intentional and planned by the powers that be, I don't know what to tell you. But I plan to do what I can to make their efforts as difficult as possible. I'm just one guy but I'm doing what I can.

bison5595 · 2022-02-03T13:11:59+00:00

This is what we have. We’re not going to live our lives alone

Square_Inflation_534 · 2022-02-03T13:26:14+00:00

People that stay in circlejerks or echo chambers aren't happy. They're actually quite miserable. I enjoy being challenged, keeps one sane.

FirsToStrike · 2022-02-03T16:17:50+00:00

Because when one generalizes like that, they say it with the hope there are exceptions to the rule, one likely wishes for those exceptions to be the rule.

cautionTomorrow555 · 2022-02-03T19:35:56+00:00

Because I want them to prove me wrong because I am not egotistical enough to think I am one hundred percent right and because being proven wrong would make me feel better about women. Instead the women here mostly do the exact opposite and make me think women are even worse than I originally thought. It would be like having issues with white people so you go to talk to them to give them the benefit of the doubt and half of them have nazis tattoos and are acting like your worst imaginary stereotypes about them possible.

Invictus_44 · 2022-02-03T20:19:36+00:00

The Red Pill is basically a technology. Like night vision goggles. It removes the bullshit from your view and allows you to see clearly.

In conjunction with some PUA techniques, it allows you to effectively ignore the female mind control methods and have sex with women more easily.

The technology allows you to see the cliff, over which you will fall into pain and suffering. Hard adherence to that is MGTOW.

Don't get married. Don't even cohabitate. That leads to bad outcomes. Set up cheap dates to avoid fleecing. Don't get emotionally attached because they will leverage that to drain your money. Be aware that they will monkey branch away on a whim.

It's not that much different from "Don't name your farm animal as you will have more trouble at slaughter time." It is about taking preventative steps to protect yourself.

IcarusKiki · 2022-02-04T06:38:47+00:00

bc arguing with randos online is fun

Lateralanouncer · 2022-02-04T09:36:52+00:00

Men and woman are not assholes. Assholes are assholes. Evil people are evil.

bludkraze · 2022-02-03T09:05:37+00:00

I dont hate anyone. TRP isnt about hate its about using the hate of men and women to direct them into a better life by showing what is instead of what should be.

loke2dabrain · 2022-02-03T09:40:07+00:00

Because in my heart I believe that most simps can be saved if steered in the right direction.

So every once in a while I'll hop online to spread the gospel of "4 the streetz".

NockerJoe · 2022-02-03T10:08:59+00:00

A lot of people here very obvioualy want to be convinced they're wrong on some level. Sadly when basically everyone is larpibg as an emotionless pseudoprostitute thats not really a realistic expextation.

logiauser · 2022-02-03T11:41:02+00:00

I’m here for the societal outcome discussions. I don’t think all women are anything.

I would like women to recognize and address their hypergamy for society’s sake but that’s never going to happen (at least for a few generations). I don’t think hypergamy makes women evil or crazy or monsters though; it’s nature and evolution.

stats135 · 2022-02-03T07:26:43+00:00

If all men are assholes

Well a sizable portion of women tend to actually love assholes.

There has to be a real reasoning beyond "muh biology"

And for any man with a health sex drive, biology actually is reason enough.

Confident_Spinach967 · 2022-02-03T13:30:27+00:00

You’re listening to stupid bitter people. Hardly anybody thinks that except the most bitter of people

As for the tiny tiny minority they exist in that description, probably because opposite attract And Half the time it’s a coping mechanism with these nuts

OfCatandPagan · 2022-02-03T14:44:00+00:00

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Orange_Paisley · 2022-02-03T16:57:51+00:00

I'm just here for the drama.

DworkinPill · 2022-02-03T07:20:17+00:00

All men aren’t assholes.

awaythrow1234588 · 2022-02-03T10:52:05+00:00

I think we always knew that men are assholes , we acknowledged that a long time, now in terms of women we just recently realized that women can also be evil , many of them aren't as perfect as they claim to be

spawnofthedevil · 2022-02-03T15:12:25+00:00

Idk I just kinda like observing this subreddit. The men on here are so batshit insane it’s like watching a little science project

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Matt_Door · 2022-02-03T12:34:44+00:00

If you’re just going to reduce everything to a ridiculous extreme why are you here?

flapperfemmefatale · 2022-02-03T16:06:49+00:00

Not all men are assholes. But I'd be willing to say that the vast majority of the men HERE are. And online interaction is more detached. I certainly wouldn't want to spend any time with these dudes offline.

Few-Horror7281 · 2022-02-03T11:13:54+00:00

Because I have had the only chance ever. I am no longer FA, I am now RFE - rejected forever.

OneAngryBlutbad · 2022-02-03T14:27:04+00:00

Wondered what happened to The Red Pill, boredom, occasional cringe and just to see people’s reactions to specific posts.

Jakes1967 · 2022-02-03T15:15:43+00:00

The question is simple, why do you seek out people you hate and despise to the point you don't even think they're human beings?

I don't hate or fear women.

sarkington · 2022-02-03T16:05:07+00:00

I’m here to push back on both assumptions, as easily supported by real life.

Abstract_Knight · 2022-02-03T18:54:21+00:00

They are not but anyway...
I give up on this shit.

TheElusivePeacock · 2022-02-03T18:59:06+00:00

All men aren’t assholes and all women aren’t evil. But PPD is funny as shit. It’s pure entertainment, nothing more than that. I assume that’s why most of us are here.

Yahween · 2022-02-03T20:28:06+00:00

Because this is the best horror comedy around

HoardersEpisode · 2022-02-03T21:12:59+00:00

The answer is as simple as the title. Bc muh biology persists and is stronger than some can fathom. You may be jaded and dislike the opposite sex from a logical standpoint but the primal part of you still seeks out physical and emotional interaction and intimacy with them. The lizard brain wins out more often than not.

abaxeron · 2022-02-03T21:14:57+00:00

Women: "We demand inclusion"

Women: "We enforce inclusion through violence by government"

Women: "....Men, if you don't like us this much, why are you still here?"

It's literally the cycle of inclusion meme.

I've seen you mentioning monks down the thread. Imagine for a second that you were forced to either accept Sky Patriarch as your lord and savior, or be kicked out of your house. Last time I checked, the last monastic community with permanent population that outright never allowed women in under any circumstances - was mount Athos.

All of the above was under assumption that your premises are true. I have no idea where (especially here on PPD) you've seen people saying they don't see opposite sex as "human beings".

fikus_the_old · 2022-02-03T21:40:03+00:00

From what I saw when analyzing responses in my post, this is not the stance of people gathering here at all.

Pastelitomaracucho · 2022-02-03T21:55:46+00:00

Because I love reddit drama

old_wise_man_ · 2022-02-03T22:04:55+00:00

Because I want to see the WORLD BURN!

also sometimes you see some discussions in which you only need popcorn

Fit_East_3081 · 2022-02-03T23:55:24+00:00

I’m here because it’s annoying and exhausting to live among people who deny the black pill (reality)

And I have this compulsion to argue with delusional people until they start to see the truth

OfCatandPagan · 2022-02-04T00:13:00+00:00

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ZealousidealAd7191 · 2022-02-04T01:59:45+00:00

TRP doesn’t submit that all women are evil…besides the people you “hate” and the people you love are often the same.

Fit-Photograph1646 · 2022-02-04T04:42:49+00:00

It instantly makes me want to hit the gym and meal prep.

Taipanshimshon · 2022-02-04T05:11:16+00:00

I'm literally here for the downvotes

Dogecoin_trader · 2022-02-04T05:21:18+00:00

Every so often my hatred calms and I start to think to myself "Hmm perhaps women arent really that bad" and then I go on to places like reddit and have a realisation "No, I was right, women really are cruel sociopaths with no empathy"

Frosty-Gate-8094 · 2022-02-04T09:51:05+00:00

I am MGTOW. I dont seek out women.

You live in a society, so naturally you interact with dozens of women everyday.
But I keep the interaction professional and casual..
No personal talks.

I don't think women are inherently evil. But the laws and govt are inherently evil. And the govt will certainly do anything possible to get money and resources from me, if given a chance.
Women are just used as a pawn in this game.

But best option is to avoid long term relationships, kids, and marriage. Works for me...

DarkSp3ctre · 2022-02-04T16:25:54+00:00

I don’t believe in any pill, I’m here because it’s like watching a train wreck. Can’t look away

TomorrowsWar · 2022-02-03T13:53:28+00:00

I’m here to laugh and be a pest.

ruboyuri · 2022-02-03T17:25:10+00:00

Because it’s so obviously not true and I enjoy shooting fish in a barrel sometimes

Title	If all men are assholes and all women are evil, they why the hell are you here amongst that which you hate and fear?
Author	OfCatandPagan
Upvotes	54
Comments	222
Date	February 3, 2022 7:11 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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