This post is mostly half baked ideas, just want to hear what others have to say
It seems like in order to be successful while dating, you will inevitably make some women uncomfortable. Obviously, there are certain lines that can’t be crossed.
I don’t think I can explain it well, but men are most of the time expected to “chase” meaning they go after the woman. What some women find creepy others find sweet. For example, walking up to a girl at a bar, it can be hard to tell if a woman is just being nice and doesn’t want to talk or is shy. Another example I can think of is when you’re trying to be intimate with someone. Men are expected to make the first move, and unlike what Reddit or someone with autism will tell you, communication is not always attractive. Asking someone if you can kiss them would be a turn off for many women, so sometimes you just have to go for it. Some will find it attractive others will view you as a creep. The final example I can think of is the general idea of being persistent. If you talk to a lot of married couples, especially older ones, the woman says at first she turned the man down, but after a few attempts she gave in. Not sure how this fits into people dating now a days, but being persistent after a no seems like a big no no.
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In the context of the first kiss, when there's chemistry, you're holding her, you're looking at each other's eyes...you just whisper "I really want to kiss you". Depending on her reaction, you kiss her.
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Yep. I think it's rather hard to make someone uncomfortable with your attempt to kiss them if you're already on a date and you aren't trying to really force it.
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By "forcing" I mean like...literally forcing. Holding her head, you know. And holding her at place. I hope it's a rare occasion, but I experienced it and we weren't even on a date. Or dating.
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If you can't articulate your desires in a sexy way, it doesn't mean all people are like you.
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Sure, dommy-boy.
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...In a way. But mostly no, not really, if you're good at picking social cues and reading the room.
I don't think men should be worried much about making women feel uncomfortable as long as they respect their boundaries. If she wants you to leave her alone, she will say so or at least show it by not being reciprocal. If she's interested, you'll get the hint as well.
There's nothing wrong with approaching a woman at a bar, I think it's almost expected in this setting. It's definitely better than trying to approach a cashier or a waitress. You can tell a girl you want to kiss her or at least give her enough space to dodge you when you're trying to do it without warning first. Don't try to hold her head or anything. I was there, it sucks.
Persistence thing is the most questionable I guess. There are still enough women who are into cold and hot games and I honestly think they should stop engaging into them. Personally I'd prefer men not to participate in it as well, but I get that they want to shoot their shot. I guess eventually it just makes women who aren't into it to turn men down rather abruptly and in some cases borderline rude, because they don't get it otherwise which truly sucks.
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They're very individual, sure. There are general lines of politeness though. Like don't touch strangers, leave when you're asked to leave a person alone, don't push, don't follow them etc.
It's a hard thing to do especially if you don't have any experience. You usually can tell if you're making someone uncomfortable though. They're giving you one word answers, they look like they want to go away, they don't look at you etc.
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