Could this be the problem so many men struggle with women?

Chaddamhusein · 2021-05-31T08:36:56+00:00

The guys who are struggling qre struggling to have sex in the first place, what does this have to do with womens orgasms

Lauren-Smith-B · 2021-05-31T07:36:36+00:00

Some of us bring it on ourselves. I've had so many friends say "he didn't bring me to orgasm" "what did you do?" "I faked one lol" "why didn't you just tell him you hadn't came yet?" Or "why didn't you help him give you one".

Usually they say they didn't want to embarass blah blah, but most guys are willing to learn. Just teach.

Aldabruzzo · 2021-05-31T15:42:33+00:00

No, this is not anywhere close to why men struggle with women. Nonorgasmic women are not why men are struggling with women. These nonorgasmic women still fuck. They still fuck Chads and a few in the bottom 80%. The fact that they're nonorgasmic doesn't mean they aren't fucking.

Those women can't cum even when Chad pumps and dumps them. Chad doesn't struggle. The bottom 80% of men do.

AcesHigh256 · 2021-05-31T18:20:58+00:00

Isn't this just the gender-swapped version of "men have porn-induced erectile dysfunction"? The answer to that is always "Guys, it's your own fault, step away from the computer and just go outside!"

So yeah, just step away from the vibrators and go outside.

woxmei · 2021-05-31T08:11:59+00:00

You gotta put the vibrator down once in a while and go manual.

Then stop blaming the man because your body is so used to huge amounts of vibration to orgasm and his tounge and fingers can't match it.

Like duh.

Novadina · 2021-05-31T07:49:45+00:00

only 41-50% experience an orgasm unassisted (without toys or manual stimulation)

Why the expectation they should be able to orgasm without toys or manual stimulation? We should just include those as part of “sex”. How many men could cum without the head of their dick being stimulated??

Speaker7 · 2021-05-31T08:31:55+00:00

What they didn't mention, or perhaps I missed it, is how many women fail to make themselves orgasm at all. All by yourself, late at night, Fabio on the cover of some shitty $5 book, glass of wine in one hand. If you can't make it happen entirely on your own then you have no business complaining that someone else can't get you off either.

edit: that last sentence was a bit flippant, you have my sympathy if you more than occasionally find yourself in that situation.

Good-Strong · 2021-05-31T11:54:30+00:00

As a woman, I always find these statistics so strange.

I know a lot of men not paying much attention to the woman's pleasure is part of the problem, but there definitely seem to be some psychological issues going on with the women themselves too that aren't always directly the fault for the men they're sleeping with.

superlurkage · 2021-05-31T13:41:56+00:00

It’s a reason we’re not as compelled to pursue sex — the act isn’t really worth it

Pilling_it · 2021-05-31T08:15:22+00:00

A lot of women do that to themselves. Many would fake because the guy didn't know how to do it, and come out with some bullshit excuses as to why they didn't taught them. Like, sure it's a problem but it's an easy fix, just sit down, get the correct theory in and practice.

I have zero pity towards these women nowadays. They're part of the reason women don't orgasm as much, and am like bitch you brought that upon yourself.

TheJim66 · 2021-05-31T07:41:13+00:00

But they are interested in men. Where do you people see women not interested in men?

luliloo · 2021-05-31T08:35:19+00:00

Those are sad stats. Women need to make themselves orgasm. Don’t expect a man to know how to do it for you lol.

Men, you should be telling your girl to use a vibrator during sex if she can’t cum. Less work for both of you.

NTRollin · 2021-05-31T09:57:01+00:00

So it's 41-50% now? That's a pretty big increase from the 70% it used to be, I wonder how that graph would look like compared to the male sexlessness one...

Anyway, no man is going to give a woman as good of an orgasm as a 8" horsecock dildo vibrating at 20Hz. If it was all about orgasms then women would never bother with men at all

bowserfire73 · 2021-05-31T11:08:24+00:00

The best predictor of a woman's orgasm is the attractiveness of the man's face.

death_by_1000_cats · 2021-05-31T15:43:40+00:00

and only 41-50% experience an orgasm unassisted (without toys or manual stimulation).

I don't really understand this part of the stat. If these women aren't orgasming from PIV and they're also not orgasming with "assistance" then how are they orgasming? Frankly if up to half of women are capable of orgasming via magic then that's pretty impressive.

StiophanOC · 2021-05-31T16:40:49+00:00

The fuck is with some of you trying to boil a complicated subject down to a single cause?

ffs

Pastelitomaracucho · 2021-05-31T21:39:15+00:00

No.

The average man is thirstier than the average woman.

alberto-hoff · 2021-06-02T20:49:29+00:00

Women need to learn to be more demanding and own their sexuality.

Stop trying to be over pleasing and saving face. Ask for what you want and if he doesn't deliver - tell him.

It's something I learned in my early twenties and my orgasm success rate is almost 💯.

makemesomething · 2021-05-31T14:17:19+00:00

Absolutely.

Weak dick game is a massive issue among men that the Red Pill will never talk about. All this bullshit about "give me instructions on how to make you cum" is exactly that. Why should a woman waste her time giving you instructions when she can fake an orgasms and leave to her vibrator or the guy she knows that can provide good dick? Especially when you're just hooking up?

If a guy ever gets ghosted after an ONS, that is probably the reason why.

in-precise-words · 2021-05-31T08:25:02+00:00

Orgasms give you a relief. So maybe they would nag less if they orgasm more. Not necessarily means they would be more horny.

souredskittles · 2021-05-31T07:50:11+00:00

It’s part of the problem,yes.

Theres a bigger issue of most men being sub par just overall, not just sex wise.

in-precise-words · 2021-05-31T08:23:59+00:00

Woman are extremely interested in man, it's just not that conscious for them. What shirtless bodybuilders pass close to them and they react like little girls. Biting their lips, giggling, touching their hairs. And if you stop and ask them if they're horny, most would say no.

datfishd00d · 2021-05-31T08:20:28+00:00

If there are so many women walking around who have either never had an orgasm or rarely experience one, is it any wonder that they are not all that interested in men?

I don't expect to orgasm during sex, honestly. Why? Because I only have with men I was very close to and in a long term relationship.

But this is not the reason I'm not as interested in men. I just don't trust men, and I'm scared of them. I would love not to be, but experience doesn't prove otherwise. It's not that there aren't good men out there, I know there are, but they are between a huge pile of people who are legit dangerous or not worth being around.

It's just been too many times I thought I knew someone, until they were assaulting me, trying to take advantage of me, or coerce me into shit. The problem is that, a lot of times, you really can't tell.

I obviously have had milder, and good experiences, too. But I just find way too many people, my age at least, are still not emotionally developed and don't want to date people who set boundaries. They want to date someone that lets them do whatever they want, whenever they want, not just talking about sex here. As if they just wanted to have a relationship, and not date an actual person.

This is not just a personal problem, I also see my friends struggle with these type of situations in their dating life, too.

BigCCPenis · 2021-05-31T15:44:45+00:00

I'd be surprised if it was more than 10% of women who get off with the average guy.

The ones who get off with a man usually wind up literally obsessed with him and unable to get over him.

I'd say that that women's preference for orgasm giving men takes precedence over virtually anything else. It's only natural, having an orgasm is the best possible feeling in a pretty painful world. They used to give orgasm therapy to women who were out of control 100 years ago to get them to chill out.

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Mondholm · 2021-05-31T08:38:51+00:00

Doesnt this mean women struggle with men?

StrangeMemory600 · 2021-05-31T13:12:12+00:00

We should be allowed a poke'ball for Women.

SaBahRub · 2021-05-31T16:02:13+00:00

Well, it’s not going to help, along with physical risk and relative lack of motivation

DiscussionReader · 2021-06-01T02:36:35+00:00

Almost 1 every 3 men aged 18-30 is virgin in America, they don't even get to the sex. Making a woman orgasm is the last of our problems, we unwanted men can't even get one date.

I read a couple of books on female sexual pleasure written bysex theapists, I watched different videos from women on how to perform oral sex and, finally, I often read women's complaints on men's sexual performaces. I know how to make a woman orgasm from a theoretical standpoint but this won't get me dates let alone sex.

On the other hand, it is extremely easy to keep a woman after sex, ask any Chad about it: women become attached after sex. Unwanted men complain about not getting dates, they don't complaing about women dumping them after subpar sexual performances. You simply don't understand men's dating struggles.

Ogres_r_like_banned · 2021-06-01T16:49:54+00:00

Men with lots of options tend to be lazy/selfish in bed. Why? Because they can afford to be. No need for repeat business when fresh conquests are a swipe away.

This, incidentally is why male redditors talk so much about giving head or even eating ass. Virtue signaling and presenting themselves as the sexually generous, albeit unattractive alternative to Chad, in hopes of picking up his sloppy seconds.

In any case, people lately are too neurotic, anxious, distracted, sedentary, disconnected from their bodies etc, to have good sex. Good sex is passionate, primal and hungry in this way you just don’t get from video game/social media addicted zombified cubicle-drone normies.

Blackheart201992 · 2021-06-04T07:01:24+00:00

Most women are asexual and/or unable to feel sexual pleasure. That's always been teh case though.

Killingdanse · 2021-06-08T00:28:19+00:00

It's a 2 way street. It's still socially acceptable to penis shame, shame men for not lasting long, shame men for being nervous, shame men for being inexperienced, and all sorts of things like that. TRULY liberating men would do wonders when it comes to sex.

Ktzq · 2021-06-09T19:50:19+00:00

If there are so many women walking around who have either never had an orgasm or rarely experience one, is it any wonder that they are not all that interested in men?

Your theory is incredibly idiotic. Women are responsible for their orgasms - not men.

Most women can't even open their mouths to tell men what they want in bed. Therefore, men are not to blame. Women are to blame for the bad sex that they are having.

And who says that "women are not all that interested in men"? Women are interested in men, but almost all women think that they are entitled to the most attractive men on the planet. They think that they are settling if they can't get such a man. Blame women for their unrealistic standards.

Don't blame women's problems on men.

reluctantly_red · 2021-05-31T14:38:55+00:00

22% of women never experience an orgasm through intercourse

Most of those women have never had PIV sex with a guy they're physically attracted to on a visceral level. The remainder fall into three camps; (1) women scared by religion who are too uptight and anxious to enjoy sex, (2) lesbians who haven't admitted it to themselves yet, and (3) a small number of women with physical/medical issues which make enjoying sex difficult.

Title	Could this be the problem so many men struggle with women?
Author	TheDevilPutD
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Date	May 31, 2021 7:29 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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