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[–]leelbeach 243 points244 points245 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Mate I'm 25 and you've had way more experience with women than me. So I wouldn't worry to much about it.
[–]st0nervirginsunit3 64 points65 points66 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah everything is relative. Four partners to me is a lot.
[–]r_m_castro 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
30 here. I only had sex with 2 women. So OP is well ahead of me.
[–]housebird350 385 points386 points387 points 4 years ago (86 children) | Copy Link
I would say early 30's.
Still young enough to attract college age women, you should have a little money to take them out, a job and some potential security to offer them.
You also are in the age range were you can attract first time divorcees especially ones with young kids.
And you are still young enough to attract older women trying to relive their youth if only for a few weeks or months.
[–]NichRigga- 149 points150 points151 points 4 years ago (51 children) | Copy Link
Im 26 and I agree. Late 20s early 30s seems to be ideal.
[–]Vacillating_Vanity 150 points151 points152 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Recently turned 30 and got healthy
It’s like I’m a sexual being to women for the first time without trying
[–]letmereaddamnit 67 points68 points69 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Even if you're in your early 20's getting in shape is night and day. Source: In my early twenties, got in really good shape and women started approaching me. Now I'm out if shape and they avoid me like the plague. I'm working on getting it back though🤣
[–]ChadBreeder1 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Muscles on a guy are to women what tits and ass on a girl are to men.
[–]Lightskin-Duke 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very true! Also happy cake day!
[–]OkRun9844 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Hey man, I hope you get back at it, fr!
[–]letmereaddamnit 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lol me too. I'm getting used to a new schedule so I'm working it out
[–]OkRun9844 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bet man, keep it up! We’re in same boat lol
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is it true that women will approach you if you workout? I've been going to gym and my body almost look like Mark Wahlberg in Basketball Diaries
[–]letmereaddamnit 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Idk if it's like that for everyone but it was for me. Make sure you've got a good haircut and dress well.
[–]NichRigga- 61 points62 points63 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Yeah 100%, i think most women assume youre more sexually experienced and mature if youre in that age range. Also have access to both younger and older girls
Also feel like you naturally become more confident as you get older
[+][deleted] -11 points-10 points-9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’ll be over for me at 30 if I’m not experienced by then. I only have 9 years
[–]elvissayshi -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You do? No, you don't Not saying you won't develop skills and have more confidence in them however as soon as you reach a new level that level is going to be as scary as the one you just took. Your next challenge will be bigger than the challenge you had prior just how life is' plus men really don't hit their Prime until 40-45. At 50 begin rapid downhill slide at 32 feet per second, per second.
[–]adampierre 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
32 feet per second sounds pretty fast
[–]useles-converter-bot 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
32 feet is 31.16 RTX 3090 graphics cards lined up.
[–]no_please 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At Earth's surface the acceleration of gravity is about 9.8 metres (32 feet) per second per second.
[–]elvissayshi 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Like falling out of an airplane fast.
[–]ShaidarHaran2 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The first time my shoulders and waist flipped ratio, I noticed a real change in how much everyday attention I get. It's a shallow world, but you can at least exercise and give yourself that edge.
[–]MrColfax 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
What do you mean specifically by 'got healthy'?
[–]Vacillating_Vanity 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Focused on health instead of physique
Started drinking Dr Rhonda Patrick's green smoothies daily for months
Ran every other day even if I didn't want to
Cut my excess body fat in half, down from 30% fat to about 20-22%
Started lifting around that weight, 1-2x/week, stopped running as often
Figured out I had serious adrenal fatigue from entrepreneurship, healed myself with vitamins
Got myself to the top 20% of men, arguably top 10% with my shirt on
[–]OfficerCHODEMAN 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Good points not sure why you're getting the down dick. What vitamins did you find helpful cause I sometimes get that from my work.
[–]Vacillating_Vanity 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
In order of importance
B Complex (multiple per day)
C (sometimes multiple per day)
Magnesium / D
Zinc / E / K / Calcium
[–]Moxiecodone 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How do I cure my adrenal fatigue?
[–]ProfitisAlethia 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I'm 26 also and am realizing this right now. I'm settling down with a wonderful woman who has kids but I definitely see how this is the perfect age.
You have just enough youth and stability to be attractive enough to all age ranges.
[–]manespace 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm settling down with a wonderful woman who has kids
damn bro. I truly hope you've thought this through thoroughly.
pardon the unintentional tongue twister, and good luck.
[–]elvissayshi 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gonna need it. Fuuuck. I will NEVER do that again. Dont get me started.
[–]ProfitisAlethia 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I've thought about it a lot. It's the best decision I've ever made.
[+]ChadBreeder1 -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Raising another man’s kids is the best decision that you’ve ever made? Yikes
[–]Daxtatter 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OK ChadBreeder smh
[–]conker1264 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Speak for yourself. I'm in the best shape of my life and as soon as I hit 24 I've basically hit a wall. Everyone's taken and the ones that aren't have no interest in me. 20-24 is where it's at.
[–]Exmerus 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol bro you don't know what you're talking about. Men can peak any late in life. My father used to get laid with different women of several age groups in his 50's lol. A man in his 30's is seen as a god by college girls, and women from his age group are getting old and out of options. You also have the more mature women that want adventures with younger men, but don't want a kid in his 20's.
Women, normally peak between their 18-25, for several reasons (usually, having kids screws them over). Women heavily depend on their looks, men don't. As long as you do well financially, you can get vag, even if you are not an adonis.
[–]Character-Current-57 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Facts
[–]TheConnoissuer 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah those are the ages where men have their lowest value. You may be young at that age but not much life experience or financial stability. You're just experiencing what it's like to be an adult. You're not in high school anymore where all the women are un-married with no kids.
[–]Frankiedrunkie 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
I work with a 42 year old who bangs 21 year olds and hot single moms almost every week, he is in shape, nice gray beard, confident as fuck, every girl at work has a crush on this man. FOURTY TWO YEARS OLD
[–]king_of_nogainz 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What do you guys do for work?
[–]Frankiedrunkie 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Risk and compliance at ikea, it’s like security but with some more responsibility
[–]king_of_nogainz 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gotcha
[–]Altruistic_Field2134 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yea one of the good thing about men for the dating market is if we do the bare minimum (make sure we have decent confidence, make sure we got a decent career, make sure are still in decent shape) then we can potentially be really attractive to a lot of women till our 50s. Problem is most dudes do not do this for various reasons which makes them end up in terrible situations.
[–]Frankiedrunkie 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man one of my biggest fears is aging terribly, so I’m trying to get into skin care and eat more healthy and of course, hitting the gym (which I’ve done on and off for 3 years with minimal results)
[–]elvissayshi 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tried to tell ya.
[–]Wi1liamGoh 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fark me, dayuuum
It’s like that for me
[–]gannex 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
So long as you don't go bald, this seems to be true
[–]Moikepdx 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Shave it. You’re back in business. It’s the invetween that tends to be unattractive.
[–]gannex -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
nobody actually likes that shit.
Plus, sunburnt head, cold in the winter, etc., etc.
[–]Moikepdx 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I know some guys who are extremely successful that are shaved, so it absolutely isn't true that "nobody likes that shit". However, it's a bit like a beard. They look great on some guys, but not on everyone.
[–]gannex 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What I mean is it sucks to be a man with a shaved head. always gotta shave it, cold in the winter, sunburns in the summer, always gotta wear a hat, etc. Supposedly some women like it... Although I can't imagine many young women like it tbqh.
[–]Moikepdx 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you want ear a shaved head like a cancer patient it probably won’t be perceived as attractive. But accompanied by vitality and muscle it’s manly. Nobody is telling “the Rock” to grow out his hair.
As for hassle factor, welcome to life.
[–]gannex 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lmao "the rock"
[–]Moikepdx 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Were you under the impression that his sex appeal cane AFTER he got famous? Eye roll.
[–]the_dude1995 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not true. I'm balding and I went for a buzz cut. I've had a FWB march-late summer. A girl I recently went out with told me she actually only likes bald men with beard. So that's that.
[–]BonsaiDiver 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
55 year old here. Looking back...definitely early 30s. At that age, your finally on your feet, making money and have some confidence. Women who are not already married and want to settle down, they start getting frantic....everything just comes together in your early 30's.
Have fun out there fellas.
62 here. I must have been a late bloomer. I didn't have my Peak until right around 40 45 I was making decent bread was the boss at work. It was a lot different than when I was younger and I had to flop around the floor just to get them 2 notice me
[–]creativeoutlaw44 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
But does one really want to be with frantic women?
Tell us more, please! Interested in hearing a 55-year-old dude's perspectives on women at this age as I just turned 30.
[–]BonsaiDiver 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"Frantic" is probably too harsh. In their 30's, instead of just being the one who is pursued, a woman will be the one who initiates. You still need to have your act together, a woman is not going to want to date a guy who doesn't have a job, etc.
What I also found was that in their 30's women were more mature - so was I for that matter. Dating in my 30's; there were no coy games, it was just understood that we were both there either to be friends with benefits or maybe something long term.
[–]creativeoutlaw44 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ah, gotcha. That makes sense. Thanks!
[–]BonsaiDiver 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
30's are a great time in life: your still young, but you have some experience to not do the foolish things you might have done in your teens and 20s.
No frantic women! No matter what you do it will not cause more trouble pain and anxiety Then a frantic woman.
[–]surfershane25 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just became single at 31 after 5.5 years, I thought it was going to be way worse than before I was better. Turns out I’m a lot more confident, mature, and have been doing pretty well compared to when I was mid or early twenties. Then again I’ve worked on myself a lot and have been trying to learn all I can.
[–]IntrovertedButSocial 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
This.
I would also like to add that there’s a wiki article that reinforces this.
“Male desirability to women peaks in the late 20s and does not fall below the average for all men until 36.”
[–]wise_op_live 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I...just...turned 36...
[–]housebird350 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Past your prime bud
[–]wise_op_live 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'll go roll myself downhill now.
[–]TheConnoissuer 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
36 and just hitting my prime. The prime years for men are 35-45
[–]foghatyma 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And 45-55 when we hit 45.
Just keeps getting better.
[–]TheConnoissuer 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True, dont forget the 55-65 bracket....we can still put in some work lol
[–]MrColfax 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I hope so
Don't.
[–]IntrovertedButSocial 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m so sorry.
[–]ShaidarHaran2 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's when a lot of people would already be married, how depressing that evolution gave us different sexual peaks lol.
[–]elvissayshi 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You learn why they sell so many golf clubs.
[–]Altruistic_Field2134 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Further most of the dudes in hollywood who are considered "sex symbols" are all in thier 30s.
[–]Night_Hawk1 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This right here. I'm 34 now and these last four years have been insane amounts of wild adventures with those exact 3 types of women, fwr beyond what I had in my 20s. Almost 35 and my age is starting to show a bit and the college age women aren't around as much, but the divorced and crazy, married, or single moms are stronger than ever.
[–]GreenNukE 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Keep the ones with kids away.
[–]housebird350 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No one said you had to marry em.
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[–]ProfitisAlethia 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I fucked around dating losers and women who were not long term material until was 25. Now I've been in the process of settling down for over a year and, let me tell you, you don't have to wait.
I promise you, there are tons of women around your age who want to start a family.
[–]YetzirahToAhssiah 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
31M here. Super agreed. Being able to afford a hotel room helps, too.
This being said, I do well now because I learned some fundamentals when I was your age, OP. Really, I was never better at generating sexual tension than when I was 22... but I didn't really have a strong identity/personality like I do now.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who the hell wants first time divorcees with kids ?
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What a tired cliche. Not always trying to "relive their youth." Source?
[–]housebird350 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Source?
Your mom
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Smart...
[–]AJAY_SS 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But where do you meet tho?
[–]sepia_dreamer 178 points179 points180 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Bro I was a virgin until I was 27, and haven’t even touched a girl for over a year. I’d say you’re hitting pretty solid.
[–]Evol_Etah 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Me at 23 rn. Same.
[–]marutiyog108 177 points178 points179 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
When you stop giving a fuck and worrying about being rejected or turned down. I spent most of my highschool years terrified to ask girls out as I got older I felt a little more confident. But I eventually realized if I get turned down it's not as bad as I made it out to be. It's not deadly. There are as they say other fish in the sea. After that it just became fun to flirt. the worst thing they could be is not interested. And it didn't change anything in my life. Not interested okay. Moving on. You still wanna be friends ok cool. If they flirted back I would see where it went.
Keep dating fun don't stress it hang out meet people. Be yourself.
[–]Krunchy_Almond 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Bruh I'm in the same boat. I'm like 20 and in a uni rn, super insecure about my looks and can't get their interest for some reason even if I strike up a conversation. It's like I get awkward around them. Also like I'm scared that they'll tell their friends about me and ultimately get ridicule me behind my back.
[–]Shadow__Account 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s like my number one perk of getting older, caring less about what people think and living more for myself and my needs. A small forced social world like a school is also not helping, if you were to mess up you’d have to deal with it daily so naturally you are more careful to not act out and take chances, which are holding us back in return. I think in the end it comes down to living according to your own values and not living for other peoples perceived values and if you do that there is no more shame and anxiety (theoretically/ ideally ofcourse ) about how you are perceived.
[–]rwalsh138 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You don't have to worry about your looks, as a guy. It's a factor, but it's not the main point of attraction. Luckily for us, women are attracted to men for DIFFERENT reasons than looks.
You can't talk to women and force them to be interested in you. They may sense that you're trying too hard. When they get the sense that you're thirsty, they try to flee. You have to seem INTERESTING, not INTERESTED.
[–]csully2988 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not scared of rejection but i live in a very small town and as a teenager i asked girls out and eventually girls wouldn't even talk to me just because the rumor got out that every girl i was friends with i asked out, so i pretty much got insulted or avoided by girls and because of that and other things, i got bullied by guys, so now I'm 19 and I have a job and a car and a life, I'm in shape and i have a passion, sounds like a winning formula but still girls don't even look at me and the ones that do become friends with me, like our friendship but after a year or more sometimes I'll ask them out and they aren't into me in that way at all, makes no sense to me other than i just have a lack of social skills and probably too much anxiety and depression
[–][deleted] 94 points95 points96 points 4 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
It’s not a contest on who can sleep with the most women. Bro it’s not that deep Chillex. You’ll get a nut off with a woman when a woman wants to get a nut off with you. As long as you keep doin what your doing that is causing you to improve. And stop comparing yourself with sex and your self worth.
[–]elvissayshi 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Truth spoken here. We really don't have that much control over who likes us or who doesn't you can't force somebody to like you. And if you're not ready it's not going to happen if you're focused on that, as opposed to focusing on building yourself up. then you will have no idea where they all came from I swear it's like some kind of vibe86d in the air when you're ready and believe me they'll just mysteriously appear everywhere you look. Remember my friend, the worm always turns.
[–]EndWinglet 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You actually have a lot of control once you get at least to a 7+ in the looks scale, like don't you think that's what this subreddit is for lol, to learn how to speak/act more seductive. Once you're at least decent looking you have to realize nobody is out of your league/anybody can fall in love with anybody. You obviously won't win them all but you can be more selective with your risks and learn to minimize rejection just from practicing with people. Clearly it'll never be a 100% success rate nobody has that, but you have no excuse to not increase the odds.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s not really control it’s more of a influence. In the end you can’t control someone actions completely like you can control your own.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ye it’s like a paradox for me and women. The more I try to behave a certain way to get a desires outcome from them. The more agitated I got and less satisfied I was. It took a lot of self reflecting for me understand my behavior and why I acted this way and why I cared so much about getting laid.
But maybe it'll never happen
Ye maybe, but if it’s that deep just pay for it at the point.
[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Men's prime is 30s. He has great career, life and dating experiences, wealth, assets, peak testosterone, intelligence, muscle mass and goals.
[–]cloutier85 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mid 30s would be ideal.
[–][deleted] 97 points98 points99 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
21 is young, bro. I started sleeping with the most women around 25. I’m 31 now and have multiple plates. Men get better with age — just take care of yourself MENTALLY and physically.
[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This is true that I’m still young, I just feel as though I’m behind in the game.
[–]vision_b 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t think you’re behind my guy 4 girls n two gfs for 21 is not bad, that’s some decent experience for your age . Take things as they go allow yourself to be present. Keep your mind on the star but let your eyes watch over your footsteps, lest you fall into the mire by reason of your upward gaze
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hear ya. You’re just overthinking it. Just apply what you learn here every day and you’ll make progress.
[–]n0wmhat 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is reddit if a woman has ever looked your way you are ahead of the game lmao.
[–]OriginalGolf9362 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
25 is when most men started hitting their prime(in looks too) and how you do with women is directly reflective of how good you look and your status
[–]MrHoopersDead 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
At 40 you'll be deep in it. You can span 20 years in either direction.
[–]willgo-waggins 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Good point.
At 51 I still span down 20+ years, but the upward unless they are particularly spectacular (I have had three in the past few years as sexual partners only) is very limited.
[–]Frankiedrunkie 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I wanna be like you when I grow up
[–]elvissayshi -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It last maybe 5-6 minutes tops. That you shrivel up like a fruit fly.
[–]Redditor_2020_ 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Goals
[–]Talliss1 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Age has nothing to do with it...maturity, financial stability, how you present yourself, and your overall attitude are bigger magnets. The more you keep self-actualizing, the more women will gravitate to you...it's nature.
[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ninety. The odds become very favorable.
[–]Goku-m 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He’s not kidding if it wasn’t for my joints and blood pressure I’d be doing all nighters, these bitches drool over me at the nursing home.
[–]Ducharbaine 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Forget fomo. You're doing fine. You'll hit a stride from 25 to 30 or longer, then refine your tastes and get pickier. 4 women at 21 isn't player fboy but its respectable. If you want to be swimming in sex then focus your lifestyle around it. Otherwise, keep doing what you're doing.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
When you are a baby. Lots of women love babies.
[–]karthmorphon 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That must be why I don't remember such a time.
[–]lowandslow86 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It isn't about age its about getting reps in and living full life that is satisfying to you.women may not flock to you after that but they usually do like a man of substance.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What? I’m 21m virgin. Buddy you’re miles ahead of me
[–]mrmarkme 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m 24, and my god does it seem like this year has turned on a switch for women being more into me. Must be a post covid thing
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Older is better as you age ofc if you been in the game for years. But you’ll never look as good as you do in your 20s, wrinkle free youthful skin etc etc just approach women and you’ll find success the number one is approaching women you have to do it.
[+]TheConnoissuer -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Women are more attracted to a man with salt and pepper than a fresh faced 20 something. The more gray hairs I get the wetter the vaginas get
[–]OriginalGolf9362 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lol super cope guys in their 20s(everybody actually) are definitely more physically attractive.
Definitely he needed salt and pepper to finally get some. 20s is the best time to hone the seduction skills time looks and energy
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Read my first sentence good for you though
[–]TheConnoissuer 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Says the guy who doesn't get much attention from women
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I know for sure you were barely slaying in your 20s. You seem like a real late bloomer it’s alright pop some young men have balls no need for late blooming
[–]TheConnoissuer 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Hahaha I'm in the triple digits son, now go back to your life of jacking off
Gloating about it you definitely get no pussy stop embarrassing yourself man
[–]TheConnoissuer 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hard for a virgin to imagine...don't feel too bad about your lack of performance
[–]shinymusic 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Late 20's early 30's. I have found men and women will look to you for guidance as long as you are competent in a domain.
[–]a67milan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Could you elaborate, please ?
[–]shinymusic 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When you are 20 people see you as a stupid kid. When your 30 people see what you have accomplished and look to you as a professional.
[–]AbjectScar3729 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
If you have money, looks and you are tall it doesn't matter what age...
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I have some money, none to spend on someone else though. I’m 5’10 and i think I’m at least cute
[–]AbjectScar3729 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm just joking you will find someone.the hard part is to maintain that relationship. I'm 30 and struggling with life atm. It was easier for me when I was younger. The thing is you have to stop caring because women sense desperation and low self-esteem. You need to work on that. And your standards could be way too high but nobody wants a girl he doesn't like. We are animals and males are looking for a girl with great genes and females are looking for a male who can take care of them. The biggest problem is distraction and way too many options because of social Media. Earlier there was a couple of women you knew but now you can talk to any girl in the whole fucking world.
[–]cosmik-debris27 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"..the hard part is to maintain that relationship..."
In what ways have you found it hard to maintain a relationship. How long or short term are you talking about? I'm just curious of your experience.
[–]AbjectScar3729 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, I think that every relationship has some breaking points. First is after that chemical love goes away which is usually 6m-1y. You are still in love but it's not that strong anymore. And you both begin to see each other's "true colors". It's up to you both to develop some kind of communication or it will end up badly. I only had two relationships that lastet for +/- 3 years. And that was the other breaking point. When it's getting very serious and you either can't live without one another or can't stand each other and the best thing is to split up. My first ended because we both were not very mature. Her ex boyfriend, who I (righteously) hated died in motorbike accident and she blamed herself for it. (The story is much more complex than that) And the other one cheated and I can't get over such thing. Now I locked all my feelings in some kind of shell and I automatically asume that every girl will hurt me eventually.
https://youtu.be/llGvsgN17CQ I find this song very accurate about relationships. My advice is to show affection but not too much. Give her some freedom but not too much. Listen to her, tell her you love her and that she is the most beautiful girl for you. Don't ever stop trying and make her happy with little things and from time to time make some great gesture. Plan future together and open up to her. I hope it's not tl;dr post.
Lower standards higher average best way to look at it if you're just trying to get your numbers up LMAO
[–]saalejo1986 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Its not an age, is a mind set.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Idk, I think it’s age too. Like I get told every time I meet someone new “wait your 21? I thought you were 18” it sucks looking young
[–]audiopure110 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Better to be too young than too old brother. Just be patient
[–]n0wmhat 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
you think that sucks now but wait til you are 40 and look 30 and your competition looks old af.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This is true, I just look young for multiple reasons. One I’m skinny which makes me automatically look younger(I really want to get in the gym I’m just being a pussy and I know it). Second though, I can’t grow a full beard, only a mustache.
[–]n0wmhat 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who cares about a beard bruv, I cant grow one either. There are plenty of clean shaven men out there.
[–]UnknownWolf719 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro we must be twins I can’t grow a full beard either. Are you me from an alternate timeline?! Just kidding
Just don't let them see your Viagra bottle
[–]AN71H3RO 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It sucks looking young right now.
I’m 32, and people have thought I was 27 for the last 5 years on some Dorian gray shit.
Give it time, and take care of yourself. Your days of glory are approaching from the horizon, king.
[–]shittyfuckdick 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Grow a beard
Cant
[–]shittyfuckdick 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Minox baby!
Baby Face Gang
[–]-Kast- 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
30s to 40s is when you peak. I'm living it now.
Was married for several years, got divorced and back into the dating scene. If you asked me, I thought I was mildly attractive when I was young, yet I never really had any consistent interest from women.
Now? It's fairly easy to find women and dates, so much so that I lost interest because its soooo predictable for the most part.
[–]creativeoutlaw44 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Fascinating. Can you expand more on this? Why do you think it's so much easier?
[–]-Kast- 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I believe it's because of the power curve reversals that happen between 30 and 40 for both men and women.
Women that are your age, put simply, begin to show signs of aging. Biologically, they begin to realize they're beginning to age. Women also age physically about 15-20 years sooner then men, in terms of physical appearance (there are biological reasons for this that feminists hate and claim are myths, but that doesnt change reality).
Meanwhile, men become established and mature. Their incomes grow and their lives stabilize. Men become desirable while single women start to become undesirable.
Women literally start chasing you, provided you're in decent shape and are mildly successful.
Younger women will also find you attractive as a man that had "been there and done that."
That's my experience, anyway, and it seems to be reflected in most mens groups as well.
[–]creativeoutlaw44 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Makes sense! Thanks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3svW8PM_jc
[–]kuro_fenrir 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Usually about a day or two after you get a girlfriend
Fact
[–]UnknownWolf719 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey at least you have more than me. I’m the same age as you and I’ve only had sex with 1 babe but I’ve kissed 5 different women
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
30 hands down, most of us get over any nervousness around women or at least care less. You are far more likely to have transport, steady work and some habitation away from family.
I already have all that, though I do live in a apartment with some roommates
You don’t need any of that and still get women. Most women live with their parents roommates etc. If you’re broke a 5$ coffee date or a walk in the park. That’s just worst case scenario. What you need to do is go to the gym work on yourself and approach women. Good game + looks trumps everything else and game is more important than looks. There are girls out there for you quit the limiting bs you have everything you need
[–]ExpensiveNinja 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Depends on the person, but in theory, probably around 27-33. If you played your life correctly, you have some experience, you got your life figured out (health and finances), and around this age, most people know what they want from a partner.
[–]rudebwoy100 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's easiest the younger you are because girls expect less from you. As a 21 year old girls just want you to be physically attractive and have an outgoing, fun personality.
If you were 31 for example they're expecting you to have a good career, your own place and ready or close to ready to settle down and sadly that has become harder to do in todays economy.
[–]creativeoutlaw44 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"I’m 21 and it seems like other guys are getting way more girls then I am."
"Getting girls" can mean so many things. Making out, BJs, eating her out, sex, handjobs, etc. Just because you're intimate with a woman does not mean:
1) you or her enjoyed it
2) it was a good use of your time
3) it will add any value to your next experiences with women
Keep getting better, figure out what type of girls you click best with, and go after them.
[–]willgo-waggins 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
It starts in your early thirties if you are mature at that point.
I am attracting more than ever and I am 51. And all ages from late twenties up.
But even young your personal maturity and sense of self confidence have a huge bearing in things.
[–]Wi1liamGoh 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
You’re 51 and attract ages from late twenties up?? Dayuum
[–]willgo-waggins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Yeah apparently that doesn’t sit well with the women or a fair number of the men here. Getting all kinds of nasty and insulting on the r/AskMen sub. Apparently I’m going to die a lonely and bitter old man because I am voluntarily single at 51 and not worried about reasonable age gaps that only happen because they approached me.
Right at the moment though I backed off from the younger ones. I thought things were getting serious with the 32 yo but she imploded on me with a really immature night because of her commitment fears that don’t come from me at all but from exes.
So I told her we are friends for the foreseeable future (I wasn’t ever fully engaged due to the behaviors anyway it made me have caution) and currently am seeing a woman that is 47 and we have a ton in common. Just saw her tonight actually (she called me to get together last minute) and had dinner and spent some time together. Will be again on Friday and that will make good parts of four of the first seven days we’ve known each other spending time together and likely Saturday and Sunday too.
We REALLY click well. I’m actually trying hard to not automatically look for problems so I don’t fuck it up.
[–]Wi1liamGoh 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
How are you 51 but can be relatable and talk like you’re so young? Good job btw! Do you come from a household with a lot of women or something?
[–]willgo-waggins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Thanks! So interesting your point.
First I do come from a mom heavy growing up. She was always very candid with my younger brother and I and thorough in educating us about women - how they think, what they want and so on. That helped me in my younger years starting out.
Then as I have stated I have four kids three of whom are now adults (oldest almost 28). First two are girls. They have kept me fresh and on the edge of pop culture and ideas.
I also have a very broad range of friends including a lot of younger people. Sort of the nature of both of the types of work I do.
Lastly I am just young minded. I don’t think of myself as “older”. I am active and fit and enjoy being out and doing things. It keeps you thinking and acting young. I don’t look like “the old guy in the club” when I am out. I also don’t frequent hip hop type or flash in the pan latest/greatest type places. I go to mostly traditional spots that are generational for the area and I have frequented since I was a teen myself. Most are live music venues (much better than just a regular club anyway) and they attract a huge range of ages of people.
[–]Wi1liamGoh 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Oh wow.
What work do you do?
[–]willgo-waggins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I am a nurse and also an executive officer for my trade union. I also have a business if my own on the side and am considering a consulting business.
[–]Wi1liamGoh 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Wow ur gonna be really busy work wise
[–]willgo-waggins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It never really stops. I started today at about 5:45am and I’m just having dinner and getting to bed now at midnight.
[–]Wi1liamGoh 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Seems like you might get burnt out?
[–]Wi1liamGoh 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Do you like the 90’s era, or nah?
[–]willgo-waggins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh yeah. Great stuff. Early 2000’s too. Just went to Foo Fighters the other night. It was awesome.
[–]EpicJohnCenaFan 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First of all, stop attributing depression to lack of success. You're depressed because you don't have success, not the other way around.
I think you already know the answer to your question also. You actually gotta get out there and start talking to girls to improve. They'll be no easy age where it becomes great, there isn't an easy fix. You gotta put the work in.
[–]Frankiedrunkie 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Turned 26 a couple months ago and I have been getting so much attention from women, I get more confident as I age and I have enough experience with women to know what games they are playing (or not) but it was so surprising how easy it was for me to talk to girls and how often I get complimented/approached, this year I beat my own record for girls I’ve slept with in a year of 5, I had 8 this year and might bang one more this month. I even deleted my dating apps coz I didn’t feel like I needed them. I’m not saying all this to brag or anything, just saying it comes easier with more experience, the older you get the better you are with women (if you put yourself out there) but I’d say most men peak from 28-38
My only problem is most of these girls are 19-22 year olds, most girls my age or older don’t show me any interest at all, weird. They are probably chasing 30 year olds.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Confidence is key*
[–]boriquasan 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The proper age is when you don’t focus on picking up women. You fix your life in every way possible. You exude the confidence that all of your hard work has afforded you and then they come to you. No need to do much, but be yourself; as they will want to be around you and with you. Enjoy your youth, the mistakes and the lessons from them. Don’t focus on “getting” women. The quality ladies can smell when you all talk and bullshit.
[–]Hooosreddit 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not about age
[–]ChaplieBogez 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I had a similar problem. I’m 35 now, but when I was 21 I looked like I was 15. If I could go back and talk to myself at that age I would say don’t even think about it, just have some balls and go for it without fear of rejection. On the bright side, if you’re like me you’ll always look younger which is subjectively more beneficial as you get older. Enjoy your life. Quantity is not at all important. Bad sex is pointless.
[–]ianb2626 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Boys its a curve from sucking with girls to being awesome with them as time goes on. It gets better and easier as you age... so worry not, young gents, the future looks great!
[–]rememberedthemoney 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Age dont matter it doesnt get easier just keep shooting yo shot until one hits
Usually at Money years old.
[–]thats0K 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
other guys are getting more girls? some old dudes die virgins. stop comparing yourself to others. you should only be comparing yourself to your past self, that's it. "comparison (to others) is the thief of joy".
besides I promise you there are 10,000,000 more things in life to measure. guys that judge each other on how many women they slept with are fucking losers dude. who gives a fuck who you've slept with? those who mind, don't matter. and those who matter, don't mind.
chasing pussy, for me, is a humongous fucking waste of time and I am such a happier person doing whatever I wanna do each day instead of wasting my time courting a chick, using dating apps, pushing/pulling, blah blah blah. such a fkn waste of time. the juice is NOT worth the squeeze for me as of late regarding most women in the states.
[–]GPP89[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My craziest times womenwise were from 18-22. I was a bitch
Wdym by this lmao
When you're close to 30 I'd guess, depends also on whether you have a baby face too. It's tough to attract women around your age when they think you're 5 years younger.
[–]ld20r 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I think most will say mid 20’s to 40’s but you have to remember we are living through exceptional times right now and the opportunities to meet people, form relationships or hook up are nowhere near as prevalent or as easy as they were before the pandemic and particularly for the early to late 20’s crowd.
So the age is going to differentiate a lot depending on the person, there location and there country. A lot of people lost out on 2 years of experience and opportunity to meet people so will naturally be a little bit behind on there timeline.
We also don’t know the full long term affects of what the last 20 months of isolation have had on teenagers or young adults yet and there life experiences cannot be compared to the generations before because they simply are living in a completely different world compared to times before.
So I think as a result, we are going to naturally see more late bloomers and people getting into relationships at a later age than what was considered the norm timeline and age around the globe pre 2019.
[–]stevelle174 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was you. Virgin till 19. 4 girls by age 21. I also struggled to approach them, was nervous, got rejected often; but kept trying relentlessly and slowly improved my game. I felt behind too, which made me feel small and angry, which made progress slower. I also looked young. It's called being a late bloomer and it pays off later. I'm 29 now and have slept with 40 women. Try not to fret (i know this can be hard). Keep talking to as many women as you can, failures are leaning experiences. And remember they're picky, it's hard for all of us.
[–]asdf333aza 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would say things get better in your middle to late 20s. After I turned 25, I found myself getting way more hooks up than before. Younger girls like you and girls your age are looking to date you as well.
But I do remember the worst time I ever had dating and getting hook ups was probably 18 to 21. Those are literally like the worst years for guys. 18 after high school was rough. You can't date younger girls cause you're 18 and an adult. And you older girls won't even look your way. And you're kind of stuck like that until you're like 22. And after 25 I would say things got easier. So long as you stay in shape and aren't a total loser. And you also stop caring as much and that seems to bring girls to you in a way as well.
[–]miamiric3 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Grow a (well-maintained) beard if you can. I’m late twenties and look 18 without it, but 32 with it.
Also, just make friends with everybody. Guys, girls, doesn’t matter. Some of the women will want to sleep with you—great! Others will be down to be friends with you and will introduce you to their friends who in turn may want to sleep with you—even better.
But being a friendly, fun guy who everybody likes is the easiest way to attract people.
The only mistake is not talking to everyone you can.
[–]Casanova-Quinn 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's easiest when you have your shit together, not at any specific age. Be in shape, dress well, have a decent job, etc. and you will do well with women until you're practically a senior citizen.
[–]JacobMoogberg69 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You sound neurotic.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m not going to deny that
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
If you’re making them feel pretty and showing interest in them how and why are you not getting laid? The ladies are out there waiting and gagging for attention
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I honestly couldn’t tell you that. I’m always talking to girls at school and work, but alas
If you want to get laid you gotta let them know you’re interested in them and make them feel pretty. A hell of a lot of us are told not to just fall for the first guy that talks to us
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I mean I’ll ask them straight up to go on dates and they just aren’t interested
[–]Available_Owl5210 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just keep moving forward bro
Ok so next time you get a crush maybe smile at her not a normal smile an I like you smile so it when you can though a compliment in about her hair and or makeup. Thank me later
Early to mid 30s. Men look mature and have financial stability.
[–]Beezus333 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Around 30 if you got your shit together, it’s nature homie!
Why would you want get more girls? Can't you just get one or if you want to have more , you have to be man enough treat and love them equally with just. You are still a boy and not a man , it's time you start taking responsibility if this what you want to do.
[–]Errybody_dothe_Lambo 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
21 is still so young in life. You’ve got nothing but time. Take it easy and don’t push the envelope
[–]Livinlikelary11 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The age where you start to get your shit together (as an adult) and start to become confident in yourself.
[–]Zhior 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't really think there's really a catch all answer to this. Everyone goes through different phases at different points of their lives. I'm 27 and I've slept with about 20 ish women, about half of those were in the span of 6 months when I was 24-25.
Am I overthinking or what?
Probably? It really depends on what your goals are. If you're wanting to sleep with a bunch of different women (nothing wrong with that as long as you're honest with yourself and your partners) then you need to be taking the appropriate steps: go out every night that you can, download all the apps, day game even.
One piece of advice I would give you is to not compare yourself to others too much. Doesn't matter if the guys around you seem to be getting more girls than you. Do not try to catch up to some supposed societal standard but rather do things that make you happy, If you see your friends pulling a bunch of girls, don't take it as an attack on your ego, rather observe and learn so you'll be able to apply the things that work in your own style.
[–]berttbeans996 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I’m 25 and it’s easier than it has ever been in the past, ever. My only basis of merit is dating apps, however. At age 20-21 I got absolutely no girls off dating apps. I’m 25 and have gone on dates with at least 30 different women this year, entered casual relationships with many of them. But yea it might get better as I get older, idk. But so far 25 has been easiest.
[–]Crurple2 points 4 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
Where do you live if you don’t mind me asking
[–]berttbeans9962 points 4 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Dallas Texas
[–]Crurple2 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Ah nice I think Covid has ruined apps a bit in some areas I’ve noticed a big difference personally
[–]berttbeans996 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Where do you live?
[–]BradleyX 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s always easy, just hard at your age when you’ve yet to grow into yourself. I’m in my 50s and there’s an abundant supply of women who are divorced, never married, kids grown, financially stable with their own homes, well travelled, intelligent, well read, want to live their lives disgracefully etc.
[–]Cruisey1994 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Once you've hit 20s and If you have confidence, can carry a conversation and stay fit and healthy, its pretty easy. Having a fashion sense helps also, self care etc. Also smelling nice!
[–]IamWisdom 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Late 20's you'll get better then 30's and possibly 40's (don't know yet) are the prime time for men. We bloom later!
I'm in my 30's and get hit on constantly... like every where I dang go. I think its single girls that missed out on there 20s. But never have had issues picking up chicks. I think its just how to you talk to them. Looking young might be part of it. Could you try to look older? Like hair style or clothes? Also at that age you probably need to approch them first.
[–]TheRealAlkemyst 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i was a late bloomer, afraid of sex since my mom was an ob gyn nurse.
Got married at 21 with a chick that had 2 other guys before me.
Divorced at about 26 since she was hooking up randomly.
My 30's were awesome.
My 40's even more.
I am married again.
24-40 but it all depends on how well you age and take care of yourself.
For some it could go to 45 if youre super careful, were sunblock and don't drink alch too much (give u lines)
[–]TalionTheRanger93 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We have statistics on when men are most attractive, and when women are most attractive. That's something that exists, and you can argue about how accurate they are but that's hoe statistics works. They aren't always 100% accurate to reality.
[–]FussRoDa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]thedancinghippie 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
At 26 I've had sex with ~60 people. Been having sex for 11 years or so. At age 23 my number was like 17. It gets better really quick in your mid 20s.
Makes sense
[–]swinglife1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm 37 and have been with hundreds of women. Women don't look at age the same as we do. Sure it's harder now to find 21 year olds. But I believe that is because they are literally harder to find because I don't associate with a younger crowd anymore. Women look at status and confidence as well as looks when gauging attractiveness. No matter how old you get there will always be younger women attracted to you because of your perceived social status. I'd say around 30 was the best but it's still good at 37. You just have to work a little harder.
[–]EmmaLovely13 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey mate, woman here in your same age bracket experiencing some of your same emotions! Right off the bat, I’ll just tell you that I hate this new hookup/dating culture. I’m not saying I don’t like or want to hook up with people, because that’s definitely not the case, but when men approach me and they make it seem like that’s all they want from me, I’m immediately turned off. So if that’s been your approach, I would change that. Even if you’re not looking for a relationship, I feel like creating a stronger relationship with the women you meet will automatically boost your chances of having an intimate interaction with her later on.
Aside from overall approach and attitude, a lot of women in this age bracket are just attracted to a man that’s put together. Hook up or otherwise, being confident in yourself and what you bring to the table is going to be key. I personally don’t place any high value in a partner’s money status, but seeing that a man has a job, hobbies and passions, and is doing well for himself, automatically makes the man more attractive to me. After that, he’d definitely be more likely to get an intimate interaction with me, than someone who didn’t display those qualities. Be confident and remember to be kind to yourself. Hope this helps ☺️
[–]hairykitty123 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m in 30s and best shape ever, stopped drinking a year ago. I get more attention than ever before age 21-50 but damn my confidence isn’t where it should be as far as approaching but I’m working on it. Before I would always pull while drinking now sober it’s like learning all over again.
[–]MentalCelOmega 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Generally, for 8+ males or alpha class males on social caste system, any age is easy for them to attract females. If your are sub 8 and lower on the social caste system, then it will likely be in your 30s due to females biological clocks ticking on them, making them desperate to find a mate. However, that only applies if you are making upper five figures at a bare minimum. If not, then it is over for you. If you are a pariah class on the social caste system, then it was over before you even got out of your mother's womb.
[–]throwaway11zx 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women like older, well established and mature men usually in 40s (that's why James Bond is chosen around the same age).
[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Approx whenever you become attractive
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Damn so never?
[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Harsh truth
Nah, I don’t think I’m ugly whatsoever. I used to get no compliments and now all of the sudden I keep getting told I’m hot af. I’ve heard from multiple women I look just like Timothy chalamet lmao
[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Cuteness isn’t what women are attracted to in men ma dude
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[–]drewcer 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m 33 and it’s never been easier for me than it is right now.
[–]Superb-Bank9899 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It will become easier as the pool of possible daters becomes smaller. I have also heard women like older and more mature men, but I have seen little evidence of it myself.
[–]Direct-Success6537 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Doesn't matter if you are rich. Just turned 37s and going out with a 21 yrs old. I get to choose, not the other way around. Bottom line, focus on financial success first. Women are attracted to social status and power.
[–]SnooRabbits1296 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]crabzillax 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At 35 I feel like I'm "Wanted".
Didn't feel this before, and I had no problems in my life with this besides some dark years where I did let myself go.
don't worry about it numbers don't matter as much as you think. Attracting women can vary on a few things the main three I can think of are confidence, looks and purpose. Your looks are at their peak in your early to mid 20's but purpose wise most men have their purpose a bit later and confidence can be present at any age...that is just a matter of social experience
[–]cloutier85 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think mid 30s is peak of a man for sure in terms of wealth, wisdom and fitness too if he kept up.
[–]SirValeLance 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd be less concerned with the number of girls you're bedding and more concerned about the quality and duration of your relationships.
Boys try to sleep around. Men strive to build a family.
[–]Live-Ad-6309 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
My dad always told me 27-35 was his prime. So I'm gonna assume around then. But I suppose it depends on the person. If you get fat, then maybe you peak in your early 20s. Same if you end up working a non-sexy job that doesn't pay well.
[–]VDKay 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fear of missing out age it's easier to attract girls
Fear of missing out
age it's easier to attract girls
IMO, These are unrelated topics and I am not sure how you are drawing the correlation. Are you trying to calculate the age where you will be getting more girls and "catch up"? Yes, you are probably overthinking it. I suspect deeper-rooted issues regarding your confidence. If you don't address those, you are never going to feel that you "caught up" and that could be detrimental for your mental health
Instead, try to put everything into perspective, and after than, focus only on yourself and your own progress. The rule of thumb is "Start doing the best you can right now, no matter your age". Some people are naturals and slay girls left and right in high-school. Some break out of their shell in their 20's and some attract girls with a "successful lifestyle" in their 30's. It depends on so many factors not just age
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
16 to 75.
"Because of a few songs, women have been exceptionally kind to my old age" (Leonard Cohen)
I’m 21 and it seems like other guys are getting way more girls then I am.
Oh I thought the same. So much. Now, in hindsight, with my friends being more honest about it, I see that we all felt the same way. We are all being sold this big fat lie that a manly masculine man's man has to shag three different girls every other day, or he's a pussy wussy feminized sucker.
It's a lie.
ETA:
I was a virgin until I was 19 and since then I’ve had sex with 4 girls total
I would say that this is pretty normal.
[–]MisterSisterFister12 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably depends on the individual. And what girls are into. I had no game until i was 18. Then from 18-20 i had slept with 20 girls and had three girlfriends. For me it helped when i started working out, and got more confident. If you dont get in shape until you're like 30 or 40, you're probably not gonna get laid much until then either.
[–]No_Way2496 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
College 18-24 > Lots of opportunities to casually hook up On campus, through friends, events, parties, everyone wants to experiment, have sex, you don’t need a lot of money to go on dates etc.
30-40 is also good in the sense that you have more confidence, financial stability eg can go to nice bars/ restaurants/ holidays eg you can go Vegas and then its easy to meet people there. Also in your 30’s you can easy date younger women (21-29) and at the same time date older women (35-45).
[–]Shadow__Account 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think lookswise probably the younger you are and personality wise the older you get so the golden period is when these periods overlap which will be different for everyone. So if you still look young and you have matured theres the golden spot. But at the same time if you make great progress mentally but your looks go down a lot, you could potentially still have much more success than you had before while you looked better.
[–]long-in-the-tooth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
40s
[–]20ftScarf 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So far, 32, which I am not. It has gotten steadily easier the older I’ve gotten.
Four girls by 21 is nothing to shake a stick at. You’re doing great and things will just get better.
[–]Fluffy_Risk9955 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
38
[–]ArinaMae 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’ve always found men in their 30s to be the hottest. Some guys age well and look amazing in their 40s. I’m 28.
[–]Lagstravaganza 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Depends on the guy. Some would say 15. Others, 50.
[–]Tylerj579 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This gout over here 4 so far. 22 and over still virgin gang where you at.
[–]Brightboi2000 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think 30-45. Literally everyone's into men in that age range. Well not literally, but yeah.
[–]Laduk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it’s important that you are mature and that the women know it by the way you hold yourself.
Just ask them out, maybe use a nice opener and just do it. I was afraid of it until recently and never wanted to give off bad vibes. But once I just went for it the dates came flying. Go ahead bro nothing to lise
[–]SlickSam87 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Between 18 and 36, I would say that I haven’t had much of a problem.
It depends on sooooo many factors. Looking young has always benefited me.
But also, I’m a photographer. It’s my job to get you to want to fuck my lens. There’s a certain sexiness to being an artist that I wish I could put my finger on.
[–]WheelIntelligent1354 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd say 24-29 because the women that want your age range are the most promiscuous and easy while still not being in the "damn I'm getting old, when am I getting married" phase?
[–]thesilentkill93 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
for men age is irrelevant, only $ and social status. i had game at 21 and pulled a decent number of girls. got laid every 2 weeks or so. now I'm 29 and a millionaire with a good group of friends and know how to get the exact kind of girls i like that would like me back. you cant get them all, for now just work on urself, build ur physical, business and bank acct. and ull have 21 yo babes wanting to suck u off till ur 45. i see 18yo babes banging fit 50yo men. thats just how women are.
[–]Zackzackz 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im 32 and it has never been easier getting with women. Except Im in a serious relationship now, so dont want to ruin it. But generally, early 30s is way better than 20s.
Obviously I found it easier and easier as I got older, but by the time I was about 33 I felt like a seasoned pro.
I watch AMS videos, and in one video he says "you are not seducing shit, if she finds you attractive, you just talk to her and be careful you dont talk yourself out of the pussy"
I think thats a releiving way to look at it and can possibly ease the mind
[–]Competitive-Cuddling 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Depends on your maturity and confidence levels.
If you start a career in your early 20s, by the time you’re in your late 20s - early 30s should be your prime.
But even your early 40s can be better, so long as you take care of yourself.
[–]tropius5 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't worry about the numbers other people are pulling, be happy in your own here and now. Enjoy the moment you're in because you'll never experience this moment again.
Age is irrelevant. What matters if your level of self-actualization and dedication to your purpose, which subsequently result in high self esteem and confidence. Some men do the work early in life and some men drift their entire lives, never realizing their intrinsic value or purpose. You can attract women easily at any age if you know yourself.
[–]bunnycat666 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The age you decide to do some inner work
[–]yourgirlfriendsdad 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The best age is around 36. Then girls will start taking you serious. If those 4 girls were hot then you're doing pretty good. Very few 21 yo guys have a knotch count of 4. Its easy to fall for the idea that everyone is getting laid more but its not true. Top players in the world only get laid about ten times a year anyone doing better is fucking fatties or has a very high smv. You're doing great at 4
Out of the 4 I’d say 2 were cute, one was sexy, and one was alright. None fat though lmao
[–]tropicsGold 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You are just coming into your prime. Young enough to be physically hot (especially assuming you are putting in lots of time at the gym), but now getting old enough to have a clue (everyone is pretty clueless at the start). Enjoy the 20-something year old women around you, who are in their physical prime. And don’t forget to bang a few MILFs who love young guys and can be a lot of fun. But as other people have mentioned, don’t sweat it, don’t take it seriously, don’t compare yourself to other, just enjoy it. You only get to be 20’s once.
Exactly, that’s what I’m scared of. I only get to be twenty once and I feel as though I’m wasting it. I don’t go to the gym often and I don’t sleep with the 20 year old girls often which upsets me
[–]great_account 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As I got further in my career, I started to attract more women easily. I think it starts around 26 for me. I'm 33 now and only getting more attractive.
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[–]LawfulnessLow7794 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
the age you get stacked
[–]mikejamesone 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just keep approaching and going to bars and clubs approaching girls. Just take ACTION
Success of anything always goes back to basics so there's nothing to think about.
[–]WomanWhoBets 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
50
[–]SincerelyYourStupid 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fwiw, I’m 40s and it’s never been easier.
[–]jeepmike02 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Doesn't matter what age. I always found once you find being alone and focusing on yourself and realize you don't need a woman, the girls come. Girls want a guy that's a challenge. Get rejected learn that it's okay. Not everyone is going to like you. Just be yourself and have fun with it. Don't live with regret. Best of luck to you.
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