For the men who believe having a high body count positively contributes to their status, how does it translate in reality?

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qwertyuduyu321 · 2024-04-17T13:38:20+00:00

For the men who believe having a high body count positively contributes to their status

High male body count is a natural byproduct of someone who is a) (very) attractive and b) open to casual sex/horny.

The body count in and of itself is not status. It's what (superior genes) got him there that elevates his position among peers.

See, if a man is attractive enough he may claim 20 or 2 bodies. Women, generally speaking, don't care and don't notice the difference unless the attractive guy in question is underperforming in the bedroom which makes the claim of 20 bodies questionable.

The 20 vs. 2 body question is locker room talk and mostly relevant among men.

8won6 · 2024-04-17T13:25:05+00:00

Not really the actual "body count" but being pre-selected by women basically gets them more women. Some people try to deny pre-selection, but it's a real thing. Guy who's always got women will have more women line-up, guy with no women will be seen as a red flag. "Something must be wrong with him".

LOL, i already know somebody will respond with some lie or anecdote about marrying the most extreme quietest male introvert ever.

LapazGracie · 2024-04-17T13:16:09+00:00

If you believe that having a high body count as a man makes you more valuable, how does that work when trying to woo a woman?

The relationship is backwards.

Guys who have a high body count. Tend to be the one's that women desire. Unless they are dumpster diving or something.

So it's not that it "positively contributes to being high value". More so it's a sign that you are high value to begin with.

As opposed to a woman with a high body count. That doesn't mean she is somehow more desirable. Because most women can rack up large numbers if they are just willing to open their legs.

MisterFunnyShoes · 2024-04-17T13:24:57+00:00

You have it backwards. Men use status to get sex. Sex is an end in itself.

SwaySh0t · 2024-04-17T13:35:30+00:00

It translates well from my experience. Since you’re already sexual validated you don’t seek a women’s approval the same way you would if your body count was lower. This is the aloof indifference that a lot of women find attractive, in short, it’s becoming outcome independent.

You’re not impressed by her beauty, you know that beauty is very common/nothing special , thus it harder for any women to manipulate you. You have amused mastery you know what she going to do, say or think before she does it based on the environment and social behaviors. Your vetting skills are ruthless etc having a lot of sex with women leads to more sex it’s snowball effect.

Electric_Death_1349 · 2024-04-17T13:53:12+00:00

It’s simple - as men, we are judged by our success with women, and a respectably high body count is therefore a measure of success. A desirable man would naturally not discuss this with a woman on the first date (if at all), but it stands to reason that a man with a high body count is by default highly desirable - i.e., she would just know.

TRTGymBro1 · 2024-04-17T13:23:48+00:00

Well, firstly, you never have to woo women. It sort of happens the other way around because they can sense the confidence that comes from having been with a lot of women. Also, you tend to pick up good sex practices and adds to the aura of "I can get the job done" if you know what I mean.

Another way to look at it is this: when you walk up to a woman you act like you have been there before. You don't act like an awkward or overly nervous little boy. You are a man and there to take what you want.

neinhaltchad · 2024-04-17T14:22:10+00:00

You may as well ask “Why are men with a lot of money seen as successful?”

Because the fact that a man has money automatically gets associated with success via some inherent talent despite the fact the man may have simply won the lottery.

Also, ask this: Why do women use things like “virgin, incel and you can’t get laid” as insults if they don’t see men who can get sex as having value?

Also, not sure if this thread is full of a bunch of newbies to PPD, but “preselection” is no longer considered remotely controversial and is accepted as fact by even the most rabidly anti RP women on this sub, although it’s explained away as “it shows the man is safe” or some other virtuous rationalization.

The reality is women don’t like “taking a position nobody else wants”

Puzzleheaded_Card_71 · 2024-04-17T14:03:03+00:00

Women will be with high value men so your analysis has to start there. After that the more women one of them gets, the better they get at the game of flirting, being charming, and knowing how to be successful with different women and their slightly different personalities. Experience breeds confidence.

silverhippo15 · 2024-04-17T13:40:45+00:00

Women figure that out pretty quickly. Once she hits you with the "I bet you say that to all the girls", she's already bought in.

Tek_Analyst · 2024-04-17T13:54:06+00:00

I never went around telling the women, nor did I even tell the boys.

Generally you’re more confident as a man when you have a high count, and you’re also a lot more comfortable and better at pleasing women. I think that’s where the clues come in for women.

I will also say there was never a time that I started dating a woman where she didn’t know I was casually dating or talking to someone else. No details are said but they’re aware there is interest from other women even if just one or two. If things got more serious with her then obviously that would all stop.

SillyMushroomTip · 2024-04-17T16:30:00+00:00

When men get experience with women there is a confidence that comes with it. Men have to learn how to talk to women, the games they play, and how to initiate sex.

Women just have to show up and have tingles if she likes the guy

SlowEffective8146 · 2024-04-17T13:20:08+00:00

Do you tell the woman you’re trying to get how many past bodies you got as a way to impress her?

No, not unless she asks. If I just tell her without her asking then it seems like a brag

And if so, does it work?

IMO women are either neutral on it or see it as a slight positive

How else is she supposed to know you are sexually desired by a lot of women?

Honestly it's kind of redundant. Like a woman can look at a guy who's sexually attractive and tell he could have a lot of women. A woman doesn't need me to tell them I have a high bodycount, they already know.

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Programmer_Scared · 2024-04-17T13:58:09+00:00

I have relatively high body count. Like way above 30 and I am in late 20. And I am Asian. I think it depends on the crowd you are attracting. The conservative crowd sees me as a monster or something. But that's fine. I have a target audience in mind and if you sees me as a monster, I am obviously note it and I refuse to pipe down or be slut shamed.

But more often or not I ger curiousity. How did this guy do it? What's so special about this guy? I get viewed as experienced, and know how to pleasure a girl. Does some people still feel discomfort ? Yea. But some still go on and do it anyway. Now I dare not to be a claim it all but its like a tobacco advertisement you know. Perception.

To most of the world, you are poison but play your cards right you are treasure to some. You can advertise and brag you are a manslut and your sexual opportunity probably go downhill, or you can subtly imply you are experienced, you can bring pleasure, and you do it with panache.

I say the same for girls with high body count. That the same narrative can be used. Not everyone will buy it. But that is alright.

Jazzlike_Worth_9908 · 2024-04-17T14:16:34+00:00

The high body count is the consequence of being successfull/smooth , it's not the cause

Independent-Mail-227 · 2024-04-17T14:32:23+00:00

The only men able to get high body counts are men that have desirable traits and those men will attract women. Society AS A WHOLE value man for his ability to get woman.

So it's not the fact of having high body count that give a man status but the clear possibility of being high body count.

Zabadoodude · 2024-04-17T14:41:29+00:00

It gives you confidence and experience with women, which makes you better at chatting up new women. You don't go around announcing that you fucked a lot, but you look like you know what you're doing, which most women like.

purplish_possum · 2024-04-17T14:52:07+00:00

Guys who have no problem getting dates are obviously guys who women find attractive.

Such guys aren't attractive because they're successful.

They're successful because they're attractive.

DisenchatedRealist · 2024-04-17T15:01:04+00:00

I think this is a causation versus correlation discussion... I don't think either men or women want partners that have slept their way through a city, but people that are able to do that have that capability because they are desired. I think this causes the premise of the question to be a fallacy.

None of the women I have been involved in would have seen me as more valuable because of a high n, if anything I would have been seen as less valuable.

I have had discussions with all the women I had LTRs with about previous partners. I believe that both sides of the conversations were honest... If that is something that is important to either person, it should be discussed.

campskills21 · 2024-04-17T15:43:20+00:00

Guys with high body counts don’t go around talking about it except to other players. 97% of people are going to think you’re a degenerate that sleeps with just total sluts when you say you’re body count is anything over 50.

High body count men are associated with an addiction to girls and sex. All the guys I know in the 100s are very attractive charismatic guys and sleep with beautiful women of all ages. One guy likes to play mind games with girls, one gets a girlfriend and has threesomes all the time, one guy is in swinger community and likes to have sex with wives in front of their husbands. One likes to have parties and bring over pretty girls from the club.

When you’re a player guy, it helps you as long as the women you are seen with would be viewed as attractive. For example, there was a time I was dating around, and I would go to this bar by my house and bring girls I was dating. One time I was by myself having a drink and one of the girls who worked the bar said, oh hey you’re that guy with all the models, then she started hitting on me. Me being seen with pretty girls makes other girls want you. Girls want to know why.

The good thing about being a player is you can seek out the types of girls you want and get them, then many times you can just make her your girlfriend if you want. Most people don’t know how easy it is to pickup girls, or that most dates off a dating app result in sex. People just going to be jealous say you’re lying or make up excuses.

Kapoue · 2024-04-17T16:37:31+00:00

In my experience, a high body count has the same value for a women and a men. It means there is a higher chance they are sex positive. Which is a good thing. I wouldn't want to have a casual relationship (what I'm looking for) with someone who has a sub 10 body count.

I don't tell my date my body count because it's just a pissing contest. But I usually tell her what kind of kinky stuff I tried(bondage, 3-4somes, etc.) with my past sexual partners. I think this is better at representing who I am and what I can bring sexually. If a women who is disgusted or realizes she is quite different on this subject, it probably means we are not a good match for eachother.

For example, yesterday my date (2nd date, no sex yet), asked me what kinky stuff I tried and we then had a nice sexy discussion about how we are and what we like in bed.

This is much more important than trying to impress someone with the fact that I fucked 20 people in the last year. That's like trying to impress someone with how many silver cutlery you have.

gntlbastard · 2024-04-17T14:37:43+00:00

A man who has slept with a lot of women isn't deemed a loser in the eyes of most women. Sure some women will deem it a knock but most women won't. As much as women scorn fuckboys they still continue to fuck them and try for commitment from such men

A woman who has slept with a lot of men is deemed a loser in the eyes of most men. Mostly because it takes no effort to do this and in doing so all you have achieved is tell the world that you are good for one thing. And whether or not it is true or false - you could have an awesome personality but people will for the most part judge this book by it's cover.

Agile-Explanation263 · 2024-04-17T13:52:07+00:00

I can explain how well it translates due to opposing behavior.

Men majorily have to lie or ommit thier sexual experience or not go around announcing thier viriginity. So long as they don't build it up too much they don't lose points by any means with most women.

Thats why men lie more than women to get sex relationships etc. Its why players exist. Players would have less success if women weren't able to be convinced be has satisfied women before and can do it to her/is what she wants. Preselection is why certain men being popular is such an advantage.

It also does directly translate at being better at sex. People can argue " all women like different stuff" but the likely hood of you not lasting long enough or not knkwing how to even begin to warm a woman up goes down the more women you are with. Men who still fail at this are either selfish or haven't had it communicated to them they need to improve or are inexperienced.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-04-17T13:29:09+00:00

In the real world, even in the “Bro world” of sales, it didn’t mean anything. You better produce results: period

No one asks- everyone assumes by your mid 20s everyone has had sex so “more/less/frequent/ltr” doesn’t matter.

Never told anyone my “number”. That would have been strange AF.

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