What do women even offer?

fiftypoundpuppy · 2025-03-19T04:00:50+00:00

Men are supposed to protect and provide for women. In modern sense this means give them attention, energy

This is just called having a close relationship with someone

It equally applies to non-romantic relationships 🙄

Judging from this statement, I can already predict this post is going to conclude women are only good for sex

Women repay this by giving the man sex.

Called it

This is why Incel virgins are so frustrated. They feel they are giving the above needs to women and getting no action in return.

Expecting sex from someone you're not in an intimate relationship with is a strange strategy, and speaks to a severe deficit of social aptitude and common sense

And "attention and energy" from men can be - and often is - unwanted. If a guy is an incel, then it's quite clear that it's unwanted. Why should this be "repaid" in sex??

Sex - in the western world - is done because both people want to have it with each other. That shouldn't be news to you but here we are

But this has gotten me thinking, what do women even offer besides sex.

Apparently according to men - "incel virgins" and otherwise - this is the most important thing in the entire world

It powers the entire world's economy

It's the only reason men aren't rotting in their own filth under bridges

It's the reason why men are threatening to take away our rights, and scream "your body, my choice"

So if that's "all" women offer, then it should be plenty

According to men

attendquoi · 2025-03-19T14:05:39+00:00

I earn my own money, and I don't live in an area where I feel the need to walk around with a bodyguard. So what are men offering me?

Outside_Memory5703 · 2025-03-19T14:08:38+00:00

If sex was all that men cared about, they’d be happy to fuck hookers all day, instead of considering them failure

spanglesandbambi · 2025-03-19T07:09:00+00:00

If you don't think women have anything to offer stay away from us, solved your problem.

DoubleFistBishh · 2025-03-19T03:31:15+00:00

Most women marry men of similar socioeconomic status and the average man is fat and out of shape and we don't live in the wilderness. Your(royal) frustration is that you overestimate your own value to women to begin with. So maybe unpack that first and then worry about what "women offer you"

blebbyroo · 2025-03-19T03:32:38+00:00

The fact that you have to ask is sad.

Women offer what men offer in varying degrees just like men. Companionship, love, mental and physical stimulation, and an income to contribute to the household.

leosandlattes · 2025-03-19T05:40:39+00:00

Which incel is providing for or protecting me? Lol, I carry a cute little pink .380 on my person and I have never relied on a man to provide my lifestyle. No incel virgin out there is protecting and providing for me.

Women offer love, support, friendship, care, sharing the financial burden, softness, encouragement, fun, sharing the household burdens, and a lot more depending couple to couple.

EulenWatcher · 2025-03-19T03:42:07+00:00

Incels generally do not provide or protect women on an individual level unless we're talking about men supporting their family members. On a social level both men and women keep society running considering that most adults work and pay taxes. I know the common argument here "women pay less taxes!", but women also perform more unpaid labor that still has to be performed.

So, society-wise women work, pay taxes, give birth to children, raise children, take care of the children/sick/elderly, do more housework etc.

On an individual level...it depends on a woman, but the usual things are friendship, care, romance, partnership, companionship, support, shared expenses, little and big favor, help etc.

My family and friends get my support and care, I help them when they need it, they know that they can rely on me etc. My husband gets everything I've listed above. I'm his partner, friend and lover. I'm his only confidant, a person who he can talk to about everything, there were times I supported both of us, we've gone through hardships together.

I'm not sure what else to say. Maybe if you asked a more detailed question, you'd get a more detailed answer.

justdontsashay · 2025-03-19T04:05:26+00:00

Love, companionship, emotional support…the things anyone would look for in a partner?

What a sad fucking post this is.

I guarantee “incel virgins” aren’t giving us any of our needs, what are you even talking about?

The men I actually date give me love, companionship, emotional support, and also sex. Women like sex too, it’s not something I just give out so I can get attention and wealth from some man. This is honestly one of the most depressing posts I’ve read here, and that’s saying something.

SnooMarzipans8221 · 2025-03-19T09:41:18+00:00

Problem: women have nothing to offer

Solution: 👍 stay away from women 👍

thelajestic · 2025-03-19T11:55:36+00:00

In modern sense this means give them attention, energy, and wealth. Women repay this by giving the man sex

They're frustrated because they don't actually understand functional relationships.

The basis of a relationship isn't: man provides this, woman provides sex. You should both be providing reciprocal energy and attention. Wealth will depend on the couple as many people have none, so it's irrelevant to their relationship. For a modern couple with money though ideally both parties should be in a similar economic position.

If you think women only offer sex in a relationship, then you're part of the problem. You don't see women as actual people with agency and personality, and you don't see them as a valid option for friendship, intimacy and companionship (all things which both parties should be bringing to the relationship). Therefore, you should not be in a relationship with a woman. No one who thinks like this should be in a relationship with a woman. They can instead have a very fulfilling sexual relationship with their hand, since it's all they're capable of.

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2025-03-19T05:58:06+00:00

Love, care, compassion, fun, chill Saturday mornings with a cup of coffee. Then again, if you're the type of man who only values the sexual pleasure (and validation) women can give him, they probably don't offer much (if anything).

ThatBitchA · 2025-03-19T05:54:35+00:00

protect

Protect from what?

provide

What are men providing in 2025 that women can't get on their own?

But this has gotten me thinking, what do women even offer besides sex.

Nothing. They offer nothing to people who think like this.

but take that out of the equation what do you actually have to offer men?

Nothing. No woman wants to offer anything to a man who thinks a woman's only value is sex.

SayuriKitsune · 2025-03-19T08:43:55+00:00

are the protectors in the room with us? because there's a global crisis of violence against women, so this protectors are doing a really shitty work, not only that, statistics say that the most dangerous man for a woman is her husband, or a family member.

Provide? Most women work, the woman provide too, and sadly also does most work around the house as a lot of men are toddlers that need to be taken care of.

So I will ask you... what do men even offer?

What do I offer? Well , my husband treats me like a queen so he gets treated like a king, companionship, loyalty, I love cooking so he gets everything done from scratch, I prepare him nice bento boxes to eat a nice meal at work instead of a sad sandwich. We share hobbies so we play videogames together, I got him presents for no reason, I'm there when he needs to vent or be vulnerable, we are each others safe space and best friends and we never stop dating. Ill do everything for him and he does the same for me.

Novadina · 2025-03-19T16:24:35+00:00

What do women even offer?

Companionship, a teammate, a family, a co-earner, etc. Same things as men.

Men are supposed to protect and provide for women.

They are? Never had any man offer that to me or do those things.

In modern sense this means give them attention, energy, and wealth.

Both people in a relationship tend to give these things to each other. I don’t think it’s very common to have a relationship where the woman totally ignores the man, giving him no attention, while he gives her a bunch… how would that even work??

Women repay this by giving the man sex.

There are some people who see sex as a transaction to buy or sell, but I wouldn’t say this is everyone though, it’s probably a minority of people. I’ve never “given the man sex” or “repaid someone with sex” in my life, it’s always been a joint activity we are both participating in.

This is why Incel virgins are so frustrated. They feel they are giving the above needs to women and getting no action in return. (If they are or arnt is a totally different argument)

Incels are protecting and providing for women? What? Who? Are they just throwing cash at women in the streets and being frustrated when she didn’t fuck him? If they want to purchase sex have they tried using actual prostitutes or brothels, rather than assuming random women they meet want to do that?

But this has gotten me thinking, what do women even offer besides sex.

Depends on the woman, just like what a man offers depends on the man. Generally both people offer things like companionship, a partner, a family, someone to share in all life things.

Women constantly complain about how men only want sex from them, but take that out of the equation what do you actually have to offer men?

Partnership. My spouse and I got where we are because we worked together. We now have a beautiful house on the water, a business we own together, savings for retirement. Companionship, we are best friends and do most things together. Fun, we enjoy kayaking and camping together, we enjoy sex together, we like taking our dogs to the beach, we like playing games together. Caretaking, we care for each other in ways the other can’t or if one is sick.

UndeniablyGone · 2025-03-19T22:16:24+00:00

I'm not shocked you don't see the value in women. Something tells me they don't give you the time of day, so they're probably pretty mysterious to you. Let's keep it that way, because my God, you are being so flibbin bitchy & whiny in these comments, like a girl in middle school. Yes, I mean that in a misogynistic way too. I don't even care.

I think you'd really like Tumblr, though. Those are your brethren. XD you guys can whine & cry about your life all day & they'd never tire of it.

badgersonice · 2025-03-21T18:16:10+00:00

What do you want women to offer men besides sex?

Because all I see among red and black pill affiliated men is the constant refrain that women cannot possibly offer anything of value to a man besides sex. Red/black pill men think women who offer all sorts of things (money, cash, protection, cooking, support, companionship, love, admiration, children, etc) are still a bunch of inferiors always “dating up”.

Here’s my guess: there is nothing a woman could offer that you would actually respect and value besides sex, because it is important to you (for some unclear reason) to view women in this negative cynical way.

Ill-Pineapple9818 · 2025-03-19T06:42:41+00:00

Sex is not a payment. And men do not provide and protect women. My husband and I provide and protect each other.

Objective_Ad_6265 · 2025-03-19T08:06:19+00:00

I don't want that, I have my own money. The only thing I need from a man is love, emotional connection and raw attraction. And I "offer" the same back. Just give me feelings, the spark...

RoseyButterflies · 2025-03-19T06:51:17+00:00

Incels are too short and out of shape to provide protection fr lol

Objective_Ad_6265 · 2025-03-19T08:26:21+00:00

Well but I don't want that, I have my own money. The only thing I need a man for is love, emotional connection, attraction, just purely emotional needs... And I "offer" the same back. Of course the spark has to be mutual.

Of course I come with my own money that I'm ready to share and enjoy together, we are supposed to share chores, have each other's back, support each other, take care of each other when sick...

So just be there for each other, provide emotional fullfillment. And everything goes both ways, I don't have any gendered expectations.

ManufacturerFine2454 · 2025-03-23T17:38:23+00:00

We only need to offer sex. You say "just sex" as if men don't do everything they do for the tiniest crumb of pussy.

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Downtown_Cat_1745 · 2025-03-24T22:54:39+00:00

Normal human beings look for companionship. In the case of heterosexual couples, men seek companionship from women and vice versa.

In general, women don’t expect men to provide for them. An equitable relationship means two people working together toward shared goals.

Also, women enjoy sex, too.

hakunaa-matataa · 2025-04-06T00:11:11+00:00

We actually provide nothing I can’t wait for all women to die off so all the men can stop being burdened by our existence. Darn us and our sexy bodies!!!!

(I’m being sarcastic if you couldn’t tell. 🤪)

Robot_Alchemist · 2025-04-18T14:18:16+00:00

Children, comfort, intimacy, sex, compassion, often wealth, often they provide, and they also give attention and energy. What do men really bring to the table?

Title	What do women even offer?
Author	burneraccountguydude
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Comments	173
Date	March 19, 2025 2:40 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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