Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by them

LumpyAbbreviations24 · 2025-05-25T13:00:44+00:00

Women actually went through education and shit to make something of themselves that they wanted.

It isn’t for you.

Men could learn from that approach!

Instead of projecting and thinking “she only did this to get a man”, have you ever wondered what your life would be like if you did anything to become a better person for your own sake?

It isn’t even selfish to do, it’s sustainable.

If you burn yourself out at 35 from working on an oil rig, that’s not very useful really.

Maybe you should do women’s studies, or a foreign language, or art, or gardening, or some such shit.

klaire_bear_ · 2025-05-25T08:47:51+00:00

I see a very common, almost universal theme in these sub reddits.

Women make intelligent, well rounded arguments and the men reply with tired stereotypes, don't listen to what the women are saying, and continue to have these rigid not based in reality views about women. You seem incapable of listening.

I've noticed a massive gap in women's EQ, and men's EQ.

This is where I believe the problem lies.

Men really need to work on their low EQ. Decenter yourselves. Learn how to have empathy. There's far too many men without it.

Kaisern · 2025-05-24T23:19:49+00:00

you have to ask yourself how does your intellect enrich a man's life.

Women don’t study and strive for professional success to enrich a man’s life, they do it to enrich their own lives. If a man possesses the intelligence and interest in keeping up, he’s welcome to come along for the ride as a team player.

I'm saying before you assume he's intimidated by you, maybe consider it's because you're giving him your CV but you're saying nothing that indicates you would be fun to date, a good wife, or a good mother.

A man who doesn’t support his wife in her interests and endeavors will not be a husband for very long, as there are always a few attractive male coworkers who shared her interests and support her goals.

Existing-Bug-7910 · 2025-05-24T21:34:50+00:00

Your entire post proves the point.

Intelligent, independent, and successful women directly challenge what some men want women to be submissive, domestic, soft-spoken caregivers. These women live on their own terms, pursue their interests, and don’t rely on male approval. That loss of control is what really intimidates them. Choosing a partner who respects her strength is a reflection of self-respect. Rejecting disagreeing men and dismiss their opinions. These women are living proof that “natural roles” are just social constructs designed to maintain an unequal balance of power.

Equal_Simple5899 · 2025-05-24T21:14:07+00:00

What do you define as being smart as.

ot093 · 2025-05-24T21:36:09+00:00

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No_Teacher_3313 · 2025-05-24T22:54:31+00:00

I’ve had guys fade away after realizing what job I do, how I speak, what I talk about, and how even how well I do the NYT puzzles. One even said to me out of the blue “I may not be smart, but I know how to fuck” Like, what??

Many are absolutely intimidated by smart women because they feel inferior. They want to be the smarter ones.

MyLastBestChance · 2025-05-25T00:35:53+00:00

There are men (yes, women too but this is about men) who need to make other people feel smaller in order to feel bigger themselves.

One way men do this is to minimize women’s accomplishments and intelligence, especially when they know that those things may surpass their own.

They may not label this behavior as being “intimidated” or “insecure”, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

attendquoi · 2025-05-25T00:52:25+00:00

Why should I care if my education enriches a man's life? It enriches mine.

Saturn-Returns-Real · 2025-05-25T01:00:11+00:00

>The issue is, at the end of the day, you have to ask yourself how does your intellect enrich a man's life.

LMFAO you guys sound like raging narcs when you say shit like this. I like learning because I GET ENJOYMENT from it. Men are not even a peripheral thought when im in the moment and learning new things.

AngeAware · 2025-05-24T22:17:40+00:00

Most people aren't that smart, so yes that's a given.

As for the phenomenon of men being intimidated by women, that absolutely happens. I come from a family of high-achieving and feminine Catholic women who are generally off the dating market by mid 20s. I was warned from a young age about those sorts of men.

The thing is, if a successful, intelligent woman is getting zero attention from men, intimidation probably isn't the issue. He's simply not attracted to her. What attractive and successful women have to worry about are men who pursue a relationship with her only to start undermining and sabotaging her once he thinks he has her locked down.

There are various ways to go about avoiding those types of men. One is to date and marry on your level, which is the route most of the women in my family choose. The other is to find a man who doesn't tie his sense of security in the relationship to matching or exceeding his partner in intelligence, success, income, etc. My partner is an example of the latter. He's basically mystified by and extremely proud of what I accomplish, to the point of bragging about it to anyone who will listen.

wispyhurr · 2025-05-25T02:57:49+00:00

As a woman, I don't want to compete or be unilaterally provided for. I just want a mutually fulfilling relationship, both emotionally and intellectually. Why you gotta do intelligent and ambitious women dirty by pigeonholing them as aggressively competitive, insecure, and praise-seeking? Also, what kind of people are you surrounding yourself with that give you such a perspective?

SamuraiGoblin · 2025-05-24T22:52:44+00:00

I think there's a good point to be made about men not being 'intimidated' by successful women, that it is the wrong word to use, and that people shouldn't think of women as competitors with men.

But sadly you wrap your point in misogynistic language, so it's impossible to agree with you.

Tylikcat · 2025-05-25T19:18:07+00:00

Men don't think of women as competitors until they're dealing with a woman on a daily basis who is better at the things they think the man should be better at.

And then not only do they think of her as a competitor, they're often offended that she, as a woman, is good at these things.

Not all men, of course. And In my experience it's more likely to crop up in romantic relationships than at work, say. Or maybe it's just easier to deal with at work?

Desperate_Coat_5244 · 2025-05-24T21:31:03+00:00

Hate to break the bad news to you buddy, but it seems very likely that most women and men are smarter than you.

Flightlessbirbz · 2025-05-25T00:14:56+00:00

Smart and successful men tend to pick smart and successful women. It’s those who are not as smart or successful or have personal insecurities who don’t like it, or aren’t on those women’s radar to begin with. Like marries like.

SnooMarzipans8221 · 2025-05-24T23:27:06+00:00

Oof. Most people aren't that smart. It's a chance game. You gotta win a little bit of the genetic and environmental lottery to be able to cultivate intellectual advantage. The way you just want to spread misogynistic rhetoric is so obvious.

Bitch_King-of_Angmar · 2025-05-25T01:15:44+00:00

nah one of my exes felt angry because he thought i thought i was smarter than him. i was just being a somewhat arrogant teenager at the time, with lower emotional intelligence than i have now and i said a lot of shit i still cringe about to this day ten or more years later.

he had some weird inferiority complex, i don't know, he was weirdly competitive with all his friends too so it wasn't just me.

but it's a relief that he's dead now. he caused a wave of destruction when he was alive and me and his former friends who all ended up getting fed up and leaving him behind are traumatized.

SandBrilliant2675 · 2025-05-24T21:42:55+00:00

Most people are of average intelligence and of average success. People who deviate from this in the positive direction tend to be impressive to anyone, regardless of gender.

People in general often tend to be “threatened by” (read: jealous of) people who are more intelligent and more successful then them (less so if they are only more intelligent, but not successful), because your right, they are competition, again regardless of gender. I think men find this to be emasculating, regardless of gender.

If you are intimidated by a man who more successful then you who can take you job, how is it any different if you replace the word man with woman.

Outside_Memory5703 · 2025-05-24T22:52:02+00:00

Men aren’t intimidated, just annoyed or dismayed

It’s understandable that they prefer servants to serve, instead of oppose

ThatBitchA · 2025-05-24T21:51:32+00:00

Some men are intimidated by smart women because those men can't stand someone being better than them.

This thread is an example of men upset that there's women smarter them him.

twistednormz · 2025-05-24T21:23:36+00:00

Men are not wired nor are we socialised to view women as competitors

Lmao this must explain why in my job any time a woman is performing better than most of the men, the men scramble to come up with "reasons" why. A common one is that she must have been given extra help in some way by management. She wasn't given any extra help and they have no proof, not even specifics of what that help might look like, but they have it so ingrained in their psyche that men are better than women they just can't wrap their heads around a woman out competing them. Maybe it's time men realised that your penis does not make you magically better than half the population, and that choosing a partner because you view her as "lower" than you somehow is pathetic. Yes, many men are intimidated by smart, accomplished women because they want to feel like they are above women. Time to get with the programme, it's 2025, grow up!

wispyhurr · 2025-05-24T21:26:32+00:00

I honestly wouldn’t even want to be with a man who didn’t have it as a minimum requirement for his partner to have a degree or ambition of some kind. And most men, like most women, aren’t that smart lol.

fiftypoundpuppy · 2025-05-24T21:28:14+00:00

The hatred and disgust of "boss babes" begs to differ

Many men display a reflexive and overt hostility to women who want to pursue high-achieving careers, and frequently attack and demean them without provocation. No similar attitude exists for men who do the same

Many men also frequently bemoan not feeling "needed" or "useful," in the face of women who are completely fine and thriving being single. It stands to reason that accomplished, intelligent women do threaten what men here themselves regularly say is needed to keep society safe and functional - "giving them a sense of purpose." As you yourself also supported in your OP - "men are wired and conditioned to provide for and protect women"

While women are generally attracted to competence, men enjoy displaying it and can feel insecure or threatened when they perceive the threshold for accomplishing this is raised. Just see the countless foaming rants about "hypergamy" on this sub, occasionally accompanied by big brain ideas like taking away women's right to vote at one end, or banning all dating apps and social media at the other (porn and video games are fine, though)

They also go out of their way to make sure women know just how little her education and professional achievements and success mean to them, because they have it in their heads everything women do is for their personal approval or attraction. Why do this, also mostly unprovoked, if their existence didn't trigger insecurities?

leosandlattes · 2025-05-24T21:30:46+00:00

Why do I have to ask myself if my intellect enriches my man’s life? Why do I need to even consider how those things affect a future husband when those things are for my own life? All my academic and professional achievements were done for myself. He can take it or leave it. And this is once again reminding me that there is a huge cultural divide on this subreddit.

Because men in my social/socio-economic class take it most of the time. My boyfriend wanted a wife who was a high performer and smart. All his work friends have doctors, veterinarians, PhD holders, other engineers etc. as girlfriends and wives. All the men in my family who are physicians, surgeons, physical therapists, and engineers all have equally accomplished wives. They would never ever imagine taking some dummy bitch to some physicians networking event, omg.

hakunaa-matataa · 2025-05-24T21:18:48+00:00

When people say “men are intimated by smart and successful women”, I don’t think it’s that men suddenly view these women as competition. It’s that this (very small minority of) men place all of their value on how much money they can make. So when a woman they desire makes more than them, I think this small group of men feel like they can no longer appeal to that woman because they aren’t a necessity in “providing” for her. So they insult her intelligence or downplay her achievements in hopes that she will feel so poorly about herself that she will want him.

OffTheRedSand · 2025-05-24T21:18:49+00:00

if I have something and you're my woman, you can have it too.

except for freedom i guess. and an orgasm lmao.

for most of history, men were in a hierarchy above women. didn't really care that women were beneath them.

throwawaytradesman2 · 2025-05-24T21:42:07+00:00

I love a smart and successful woman. No idea what there is to be intimidated about. Is she going to be me up?

SadMouse410 · 2025-05-29T00:31:53+00:00

As a woman, I can safely say that I have never been protected or provided for by a man.

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BobtheArcher2018 · 2025-05-24T21:52:15+00:00

Men would not be any more intimidated by smart women than smart men without gender dynamics, of course. But those dynamics are there. If he is attracted to her, then her being smart or powerful or rich tends to increase the hypergamous burden on the man. He needs to match or exceed her, typically. This is the main source of the intimidation.

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Existing-Bug-7910 · 2025-05-25T08:03:18+00:00

Your so-called “experiences” aren’t objective. You’re not describing actual situations or conflicts you’re just listing insults and accusing women of character weaknesses. This kind of internalized generalization is harmful. It blurs your perception of reality and leads to overreaction and unfair judgment.

The-Cherry-On-Top-xx · 2025-05-30T23:51:33+00:00

I always thought "youre intimidating" was a polite way to tell a woman that her personality sucks and that shes a ballbuster.

I also noticed its only women saying that to other women, never a man saying it to a woman

SonOfCanada · 2025-08-11T23:19:06+00:00

As a Man I have to disagree with a lot of this. One thing is certain Men are no longer required to be providers, protectors, Husbands, Fathers, builders, forgers, or CEOs. Many Men don't realize that they don't have to spend their money on Women, they don't have to open the door for them, Men do not owe Women anything, and Women do not owe Men anything. Men have been freed of that responsibility thanks to Feminism. It is time to let go of the past, and the egos.

Secondly Relationships are basically a perk in life. Nobody is entitled to having a relationship. I'm not required to provide for anyone other than myself. Men do not have to be a Husband or a Dad. Meaning no man is required to have kids, or get married. Just like how not one Woman is required to be a Wife or a Mom. Feminism fought for Women to have that choice too. Because not too long ago Women didn't have the same opportunities as Men.

It is the responsibility of Men, and Women to make their lives happen for themselves. If you are lucky enough to earn the love and respect of a partner than that is just a bonus. Your life typically becomes a little bit easier, providing that both partners are actually supportive and contribute.

A relationship is not founded on who is superior. It is founded on helping each other. To be clear helping does not mean one person does everything for the other person.

Many People seem to have this expectation that their partner assumes the role of their parents. This is not the case. If you ever wonder why you can't keep someone around its probably because you don't do anything for yourself... and likely very little for your partner too.

Many People... Men, and Women choose not to have relationships these days. A lot of People can sustain themselves, and are content living alone. Society of course does not like it when People have that mindset, because society relies on Humans to reproduce in order to sustain itself. However society does not get to dictate how People live their lives.

The whole point of Feminism wasn't to belittle, besmirch, undermine, or control Men. Feminism was a movement to allow Women to have a choice. Also it was a industrial movement to get Women working, so that the Government can collect more taxes. The truth of the matter, is that Women have come out swinging, and are not backing down. Some Men don't like that, because it means they have to compete with Women, and other Men. Some Men can't handle losing to a Woman, so Men tend to have little tantrums, because they don't get their way.

They greatest thing to come from Feminism is that Women don't have to give a shit about Men who want to throw tantrums. Women can choose to achieve greatness or work at Burger King. They can choose to get Married, or not. Feminism fought for Women to be independent, self-sustaining, and have opportunities.

Life is about personal choice.

Life isn't about what other People can do for you.

Life is about what you can do for yourself. It is your responsibility to manifest your destiny whether you are a Man or a Woman.

It isn't rocket science, it is life.

Logos1789 · 2025-05-25T00:40:30+00:00

Men have learned not to enter relationships with women who have the potential to earn or inherit more money than them, because it’s a risk factor for relationship dissolution and divorce.

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SeemedGood · 2025-05-24T22:14:10+00:00

Women use that as an excuse to rationalize why men are not attracted to the same things they are (power as expressed via “success”) instead of simply realizing that men are fundamentally different and not attracted to power because we fundamentally don’t feel a lack of it.

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No-Rough-7390 · 2025-05-25T00:24:01+00:00

Here’s what I’ve found:

Men who believe they are smart try to channel it into things. Creating, innovating, etc. Can they be assholes? Sure, but the end goal is for production.

Women who believe they are smart are solely concerned with everyone else knowing it. So much so, that they’d rather die than risk being made to look dumb. Not a good investment.

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