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Younger blackpilled people are probably less likely to have this conservative interpretation. While it’s misogynistic of me to say all women are easy, it’s not like I exactly get proven wrong often enough to matter.

The only difference between a low N woman that sleeps with me after a 3 hour timer and a high N woman that sleeps with me after a 3 hour timer is their age. In the case I’m thinking of, I think the older one saw the way the younger one looks at me, and became more self aware of how she behaves. It might be an embarrassing thing when women realize how they behave towards guys. I believe most women flirt about the same by default, and then adjust themselves a bit once they become more self aware.

Lust is lust, though. It doesn’t matter whether the person is low or high N, as long as they feel something towards you, and there are probably guarantees once certain looks & time thresholds are reached.

[–]ViolentShallotRed Pill Man [score hidden] 4 months ago (21 children) | Copy Link

You start off good, and then lose yourself in absolutes.

There is a division between relationship material and "just for the time being" material. And there's the "yeah, no" material as well.

But jumping from there to "misogyny" requires you to elaborate. It seems fairly reasonable to me, and certainly not based on hatred or disdain. Women do a very similar thing, sorting guys between relationship material or just for hook ups. I don't think that's misandry, just selection.

Your second fallacy is the whole "dead bedroom" thing. The idea that men require 0 body count is extreme and unaligned with reality, and so is the notion that low body count = dislike sex.

People can just be selective, and not fuck even if they feel the urge to. The notion that the only reason not to fuck a lot of men is that you dislike sex is dehumanizing as fuck.

As for your last point, everyone dismisses whole groups of potentially good partners. It's part of the necessary filtering; we have limited time, energy, and resources and the wise thing to do is invest it where the likelihood of finding someone that makes us happy is highest. That unavoidably discards people that could have worked.

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Everyone makes snap judgements when dating. Woman meets a guy that's great looking but jobless at 30 and clearly not on her socioeconomic level, bam, snap judgement.

Guy is nice, but dresses like shit and isn't fit? Snap judgement.

Guy is 35, says he lives with his ex, immediate snap judgement.

Is that misandry? I don't think so. Neither is making a snap judgement when you barely know someone. We judge based on superficial criteria because it makes it quick and we cannot form a deep connection with 15 people a month.

Shallow things indicate gross likelihood of important values. It's not perfect, but... look, open a tinder account and try to "get to deeply know" every guy that likes you, and you will see your time hit zero.

Is filtering the 5 most interesting out of 100 (in what's basically a series of snap judgements) "Misandry"? and if it isn't, why is filtering women "misogyny"?

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But no one decides a woman "is just good for a fuck". She's probably good for many other things. In the context of dating, however, there are three options:

Someone not worth spending time with

Someone who is fitting for casual sex, but not for a long term commitment

Someone who you want to be in a comitted relationship with.

This isn't gendered. This is universal. I'm a guy and I've been in the second category for most of my life. I was a great fuck, but not a good commitment choice. And as long as you're sincere about that, it's perfectly fine.

And everyone gets to decide which traits they value when they decide. Past partners is a completely valid (and useful) criteria.

Your idea that every woman needs to be put in the third category by default or it's misogyny and dehumanizing is incel-level degrees of entitlement.

No one is entitled to sex. No one is entitled to a relationship. No one is entitled to "getting a chance". Your whole drivel of "good women aren't given the chance" is a perfect copy of absolute incel rhetoric.

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You are misunderstanding the point. It was phrased aggressively, but as a self-admitted autistic Buddhist, you should have meditated a little more on it. There is no dispute about the intelligence of redditors; we're all on the same page that they are short-sighted and hypocritical. This bears discussion because the hypocrisy always seem go one way.

Women's standards are treated as reasonable by default, and their God-given right. They are praised and encouraged to be selective.
Men's standards are treated as a manifestation of their toxicity and privilege. They are shamed for being selective, as it restricts women's liberties.

In this case the standard being a standard of sexual purity. This can only mean one of three things:

Women are not entitled to their feelings of sexual disgust; it is their moral duty to feel sexual attraction to sexually impure men, even when this impurity is truly excessive. That way both sexes are equitable.
Men are entitled to their feelings of sexual disgust; it is their right to feel unattracted to sexually impure women, and their unattraction cannot be reproached from a moral lens. That way both sexes are equitable.
Men and women ought to be held to different standards. Men and women are not equitable.

No matter which option you choose, you will need to deviate from the standard interpretation of feminism, which holds women's agency as an absolute moral mandate, in order to maximise their freedom; liberation from arbitrary social restrictions, in order to maximise their freedom; and equity as the ultimate social goal, in order to maximise their freedom.

In the first option, women's agency can be overruled by an external, abstract standard. This means that a woman's choice in a partner is not always her choice, as it is mediated by the external standard. This undermines her agency.
In the second option, women's choices are restricted by an external social standard: men's standards. This means that men, as a collective, are entitled to gate relationships behind a preference of sexual purity, and people have no right to criticise it. This imposes an arbitrary social restriction.
In the third option, there are essential differences between men and women. This means that equity is undesirable and ought not to be our social goal.

This is one of those good ol' Socratic triple binds, and no matter what you choose, you will necessarily become less blue pilled as a consequence.

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how far does the “well, she did it for free for someone else” logic extend?

lets say there is a woman who has always wanted kids. she knew she didnt want to have those kids at a very young age, so between 18-21 or so she kinda just did whatever. had some casual sex, situationships, nothing really stuck. at 21 she got into an ltr but it ended by 23, didnt work out, their goals in life werent compatible, whatever. so youre meeting her at 23. she has no interest in casual relationships, due to her knowing she wants to pop out 3 kids at some point and she needs to start the prework for that now. lets say you you also want 3 kids.

is the fact that she “gave it away for free” when she was at the point in her life when she knew she was not going to have kids going to be held against her even though it appears as if shes acting in a way that furthers what she has always wanted in life, which you share? a lot of people use a 30 year old feeling some time crunch as an example, which suggests she should have managed her time better. this woman is acting on the time crunch between 21-23, isnt that exactly what shes supposed to do?

[–]ViolentShallotRed Pill Man [score hidden] 4 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

so between 18-21 or so she kinda just did whatever. had some casual sex, situationships, nothing really stuck.

This is where the trick happens. You glide through it, keep it short and concise, but what you're describing isn't "casual" at all. It's not normal either. Between 18 and 21 people might have two or three short relationships, but the notion that it's anywhere near normal to have "casual sex" and "situationships" and end up fucking, say, more than 6-7 different people is just not aligned with reality.

It just isn't common.

And it betrays a lack of self control, a tendency towards impulsive decisions, a need for external validation, and in general traits you don't want in a partner.

"People change"

Or not. And there's no good way to know.

Now, from the point of view of the guy:

Assuming I'm decent looking, my life is decently together, and my flirting skills and charisma are up to par, I can find around 5 different women per month. At that stage, I barely know them, and I CERTAINLY don't have the time to entertain the 5.

So... why would I spend time and energy in the one out of five that did a number of impulsive, stupid, often baggage-causing things in her past, when I can spend time and energy in someone equally interesting that hasn't, as you put it, "just done whatever"?

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If a looks oriented high libido woman “settles” for an unattractive guy to have kids, then I don’t think it’s going to work out in the long term.

That's a big "if" that wasn't included in the scenario he laid out, so there's no reason to believe that's the case.

Let's say that's not the case. Every guy she's been with is equally attractive, but the guy at 23 meets her while she's looking to get married. It's just a matter of timing. Now that I'm in my late 20s, I look at the girls who I knew in college. In general, the guys they're dating, living with engaged to, etc. are very comparable to the guys the dated and hooked up with in college.

Unless someone has a major change in appearance (gains/loses lots of weight), the people they settle down with generally look like the people they dated/hooked up with when younger.

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No, chaste women are religious.

That doesn't have to be the case at all

They pair up with another religious guy.

That is usually the case with religious individuals, yes

Gen Z men are the ones having less sex bringing the percentage down, women are still fucking when they want.

No, that's not what the data says, and you're not comparing apples to apples anyway.

Both gen z men and women are having far less sex and relationships. More of gen z men and women are virgins. This isn't about "fucking when they want," it's about actually having sex. Just because a woman may want to have sex doesn't mean she will. Just because a woman can have sex doesn't mean she will either. Women do not possess the compulsive libidos of men and have a worse risk/reward calculus. They'll likely just masturbate than risk a poor and unsatisfying sexual experience with some dude

They settle because they get bored of the casual scene or their looks are fading and it’s harder to pull off. Or they just want a family.

But if they're so desirable then surely they can still pull a chaste modest woman if they wanted to. Unfortunately for you, there's zero data anyway to support any narrative of a higher-n female/lower-n male coupling trend anyway, regardless of the generation soooo

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That's one of the questions. And none of the answers are good. Under that pressumption, there are things we only enjoy when we're truly horny and that don't really work otherwise.

You can probably see how that is likely to bother someone. "I was horny enough with my ex to do this, but now I am not horny enough"

The other option is that it's one of those things you don't truly enjoy, but you do for the other person because they enjoy it a lot, and you like making someone enjoy. Most oral sex falls within this category, by the way.

And then the different behavior signals "I cared about my ex's pleasure more than I care about yours". Which, again, not a pleasant message to recieve.

Hell, we can extend it to non-sexual intimate acts. Giving a full body massage sucks. I hate it. Everyone that does it properly hates it. Your thumbs ache, the position is awkward, etc.

But my wife loves them. So I give them to her. Because it makes me happy to see her happy.

Now, if instead I refused, said I didn't like giving them, or that it was too much, she would understand. But if she then heard my ex say how much she loved her amazing weekly massages from me, my wife would really be upset and concerned about it. And she'd have plenty of reason to.

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And don't get me wrong. There are answers.

"I don't give you blowjobs because if feels like performing oral on a mannequin"

Won't make him happy but will assuage a lot of fears about different treatment,

"Dude, sorry to put it this way, but you drink more monster than water and your semen tastes like battery acid. I like giving blowjobs but not if I get hypercaffeinated from it"

"Look, yeah, I enjoy anal, but your dick is more curved than a fucking scimitar and you're going to either break it or break me"

Communication helps.

But I've seen (hell, I AM) preferential treatment. I have a friend who had a WILD 20s. For some medical reason, sex hurt her afterward. But with the guys that turned her on? Worth it every time. And I mean wild fucking, threesomes, anal, all the whole thing. Escaping in the middle of the night for a booty call. Fucking in semi public places, ETC. I know this because first we were lovers, and then we stayed good friends, and she has no filter.

Now she's married. They haven't had sex in probably over a year. She insists the pain is too much, not worth it. I've seen the difference of how she treats her husband vs how she treated the men that she liked, me included.

Would not like to be that guy. And if he discovers her past, he has every reason to doubt his relationship and her desire for him.

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If she's experienced, she's also expected to use her experience to help get a man off. She's also expected to use it to behave pleasantly and avoid icks.

If you’re into the dom/sub dynamic at all, then all pleasant low N women really have to do is show up. Their role is pretty simple

A man is generally expected to initiate, regardless of his experience

This is one reason why women tend to “value” experienced guys, but guys don’t “value” experienced women much. For the most part, experience just helps someone identify when a turned on person is talking to them, how long you have to be nice to that person for them to act on it, and maybe being a bit better at sex. Although if you aren’t a Redditor, I’m pretty sure most people are decent at sex by the time they’re in college, if they want to be.

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Actually, yes. There's a really great video series by this guy named Kenneth Play, and then there's also a book called She Comes First.

I didn't bother with either of those for a long time because I could generally get the women I dated off just by doing the things they said they liked. But I spent a year dating a girl who had a hard time reaching orgasm and being the only one who gets off in a relationship isn't a great feeling. So I went and studied so I could be better at it. I will also say, her being a good communicator about the issue helped bring about the time investment - for example, she made it clear that it wasn't just a sexual compatibility issue between her an I but something that had been true for her in other relationships. So that helped me know what problem I needed to work on.

Interestingly, it worked - or at least, the studying plus a combination of other adjustments and a lot of communication worked. There was a moment where it worked in the sense that there was a time we had sex and she had an orgasm and the previous times she hadn't.

So I would say both sources are a good investment for men who want to improve on this issue. But they probably wouldn't do any good unless you also have good communication.

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Mostly just validation, and getting reminded that weirdo people all have their random preferences to watch for. I believe the main thing with women isn’t to actually be “good”, but to avoid “icks”.

Making out for a while, giving compliments, showing good body language & reading her body language, giving oral, and then doing piv is “standard” vanilla sex. However, some women like grinding or vibrators. Some women don’t care for foreplay much if they start out wet. Some women don’t like oral, or don’t like piv. People might like to make out in a random way that I just go along with. Randoms have random preferences.

The amount of time that someone wants to talk to me before sex can vary, but I wager on a few hours. Body language is pretty consistent across women, and I assume if she tenses up, pauses, and either locks me down with her thighs or pushes me away during oral or piv while she’s getting off, then she probably likes me. Other body language women have is that they sometimes gaze at me, seem “drawn” towards me/are touchy with me, are bubbly, give me compliments, etc.

Amateur porn from random couples is fun to draw inspiration from.

Hookups are rather easy to get women off during, and I’m surprised some women don’t like them. Keeping a woman’s interest over the years is probably the harder part, and requires more creativity. After a point, getting someone off won’t do anything. They need a bit of a “spark”.

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The way men feel validated by casual sex

I don’t think I’m able to feel stuff like that at the moment

but believe that casual sex “ruins” a woman

It doesn’t

is a truly disturbing double standard

It’s not particularly a double standard. Most of it runs on the assumption that sex is easy for women to get, and hard for guys to get. For the most part, this is true.

Actively trying to create a society where there’s a whole group of “ruined” women that men can freely sexually objectify and disrespect with no recompense

Women are overwhelmingly the ones who dictate sex dynamics. Men respond to what women choose. On average, I think women straight up tend to most prefer a guy who’s more attractive than them taking a 30 minute walk with them, but chatting for a few hours can help chances, increase the quality of partners, and make people more comfortable.

What makes men think they are worthy of women’s sexual attention if they treat them with such contempt?

I’m “entitled” to sex because I don’t get rejected much if I’m more attractive than whoever I’m talking to

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Men will manipulate and lie and gaslight to get sex

Probably. Women will sometimes manipulate and lie and gaslight to get things they want, too. People tend to do stuff like that

Women on the other hand are trained to have people pleasing tendencies which makes them vulnerable to these tactics

On average, you’re more empathetic, agreeable, prone to conforming, and susceptible to peer pressure. However, I don’t think any of these issues are directly what gets you to sleep with guys. Turning you on takes black magic if a guy is less attractive than you (e.g. shorter than you), but if you assume he’s more attractive than you & your type (making arousal easy), then the vast majority of women simply behave in a pretty predictable way. Life is simple in that aroused people often behave about the same

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I believe sex is an expression of love between two people, and I would want my partner to share that view. I am not against the concept of casual sex, but I think the main purpose of sex should be expression of love. Like if someone is off having dozens of casual hook ups and no desire to settle down with a serious partner, she’s not compatible with me. Find someone who is personally compatible with you, and makes you comfortable. Don’t shame or demean other people for their sexual choices or sexual lifestyle. I personally would not feel comfortable in a relationship with a woman who’s views on sex and love differ from mine, but I would never demean or shame such a woman and I would be fine being friends with such a woman. Every man and woman has a right to date who they want and not date who they don’t want to, but you don’t have a right to put down, mock, or demean other people.

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I'm not insecure or jealous that's the thing.

Yes you are, your reasoning is the guy is a bad person for having consensual sex with other women. Not very different for men saying the women is bad for having consensual sex with other men, or that woman would likely turn out to be a cheater.

Men mainly benifit from casual sex not women, only 30% of women orgasm from it and the regret rates really high.

Just cause they regret it later doesnt mean they got used lol. They still consented, did it but it didnt feel good. And then they did it again with another guy. Rinse and repeat. Thats like going to the amusement park, paying for the ride, riding it and then hating it.... And then doing it again 10 times over with similar rides. After all that, complaining about how the amusement park is a thief who stole your money.

Whys her experiencing tons of other guys an issue?

Similar reasons why him experiencing a ton of girls is an issue to some women really, you are just convinced the reasons is different but its not

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Seems like more of a reason to not date high n count women then, since they were willing to just be a masturbation toy for a number of men, not just one or two. Seems like they have low self respect. According to what everything you said tho, not me

True but I'm not bi. They must just like the attention tbh and meeting new men because the sex aint good 🤣

It seems like you see high n count women as dirty more than anything, talking about them being used and stuff

That's how men talk about high n women.

Just like how some women would also call high n count men dirty.

I see high n count men as more psychopathic and manipulative tbh. Research indicates a significant link between psychopathy and a high number of sexual partners in men. Psychopathic traits—particularly impulsivity, thrill-seeking, and a lack of empathy—are associated with a "fast" life history strategy, which prioritizes short-term mating and sexual quantity over long-term commitment https://www.emerald.com/jcrpp/article-abstract/7/2/164/201202/The-sexual-life-of-men-with-psychopathic-traits?redirectedFrom=fulltext

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The problem if you’re not Giga Chad is that you have to lower your standards to the floor to compete with “Chad”.

Are you willing to sleep with a woman who you spent a month getting to know? A better looking guy would take 3 hours off a dating app.
Are you willing to sleep with a woman who took you 3 hours off a dating app? A better looking guy would only require a 30 minute walk.
Are you willing to sleep with a woman who takes you a 30 minute walk? She’ll invite some guy off an app directly over to her house without him sending her any messages first.
Are you invited directly over to women’s houses? A richer guy is still a better option than you.
Are you, literally, the perfect option for her? Then how the fuck are you ever even single

Personally, I think a limit of 3 hours or one date for a kiss is “about right” for most women if you want to filter out people who aren’t into you. To some extent, I guess this is because desirable women don’t invite me directly over to their houses. A 30 minute walk could also sometimes work.

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i don't understand why men want to compare themselves to women's past partners and worry about being a "downgrade" when i can't relate to that feeling at all. then i remember it's all about hierarchy and ranking with yall. even in your hypothetical relationship with a supposed high n woman, you're automatically thinking about how you rank compared to her former partners.

maybe some of yall have been in actual situations where the girl isn't over her ex. ive also been in those situations but people not over their ex are usually whining and complaining about them and comparing you more favorably to them, "ive never met someone like you" which could just be bullshit but idk.

so it just doesn't register for me the same way. i guess the less guys someone has dated, the less likely they dated someone "superior" to you but how would you know that for sure.

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I think the portion of men who care about n-count is higher than people typically acknowledge, even if it's perhaps not literally 99.9%.

You'll hear women say things like "My boyfriend has never asked me about my n-count, that means he doesn't care!", but I'm not sure this logic tracks. Surely a lot of guys have other reasons for not asking. The most obvious reason being that he knows he won't like the answer, i.e. he's just taking an "out of sight, out of mind" approach to his girlfriend's past.

I also think there's a portion of guys who don't show insecurity about this in their day-to-day lives, but only because they have high n-counts themselves and thus don't meet a lot of women who exceed their own count. But if they did start dating such a woman, they'd get insecure all over again. Like, no matter how high a man's n-count is, if he catches feelings for a woman with a higher count, he'll likely be insecure about it.

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Women mostly only have casual sex with hot guys.

That hasn't been true in my experience. In four years of college, essentially every guy I knew had at least a hook up or two, and some many times. They weren't necessarily the best looking guys either, but they were all guys who partied a lot. Lifestyle choices like that are a major factor, since most hookups involve binge drinking.

The guy with the highest n count I know is fairly average. He's slim, which is above average in the US, but he has a runner's body and isn't muscular. He's also 5'10 and there's nothing remarkable about his face. But he's very charismatic, also very big into the club scene and is really successful in that environment. He's fairly average and the women he pulls tend to be fairly average too.

Hot women almost only have casual sex with hot guys. An attractive man in a city has no reason to sleep with average women, because attractive women are always readily available. That wouldn't have been possible before dating apps, but an attractive guy can swipe right on the top few percent of women and never run out. I guess it's different in a small town with very few attractive options.

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Already??

Had to work New Year’s Eve at a hotel during all the Hogmanay functions, my boss got everyone a bottle of Champagne to share at the bells but the guys were only doing straight vodka so I got it to myself, then someone on the bar got me (the 18 year old) a good bottle of white because they felt guilty for me having to work, I hid that under a party hat with a straw.

After the bells, we ended up in some random guests room (think 2 girls 4 guys in some random 40 year olds woman’s room) and even though I and my supervisor were absolutely pished, it became my “duty” to stay because the guest was a woman and I was the only other female. So i then started the rum.

We all then ended up downstairs again, about 4am by this point I was under the pool table throwing up, but my supervisor and our customers somehow became obsessed over “the goonies” and ran round shouting “HEY YOU GUYS” in every part of our hotel.

My dad came to pick me up, but I still had to go back at noon to help the lunch shift, I was taken orders then literally running back n forward to the toilets to throw up, but apparently my friends and the customers fell asleep in the lobby and were just covered in blankets so guests didn’t complain

Edit, what’s worse is this was a really posh golfing hotel, and the bottle of wine someone put aside for me, would have been something really expensive, and I was drinking it with a straw hidden under tea towels and a pink party hat

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Title	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD
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Date	March 14, 2026 4:00 PM UTC (4 months ago)
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