Question for men: would you rather date a formerly promiscuous woman who makes your heart skip and butterflies flutter in your stomach, or the virgin who you feel nothing for?

MagicGainbow · 2015-07-21T16:18:26+00:00

I wouldn't date either, i'd fuck the former and probably just ignore the latter.

TheGreasyPole · 2015-07-21T17:53:22+00:00

Give me the slutty slut every time.

Shit. Even if I like them both equally give me the former slut over the virgin.

I never understood RPs virgin obsession. Low count ? Yes. That I can totally see. No problems there. But the 0 count virgin ?

I'd rather have the girl with a bit of experience, thanks.

Any count in single figures would be fine by me, and preferable over a 0.

Frankly, to me a 0 count tells me something is terribly wrong with you sexually and I'm not buying into that. That's not neurologically normal in our culture.

Plus it also means she's probably religious which, for me, is an absolute no-no ... A bit of hippy-dippy "I believe in some greater power" I could overlook... But GENUINE religious conviction ? Complete dealbreaker. Sorry. That just wouldn't fly. Plenty of atheists/agnostics in the uk (arguably a majority).

Rambhola · 2015-07-21T20:46:17+00:00

The closest thing to butterfly feeling I could ever have is when I come across a very adorable, innocent, emotionally vulnerable, virgin girl. It's rather impossible for me to get that feeling with a promiscuous woman no matter how pretty or smart she is.

To put simply, I'd happily bone the promiscuous whore. If I don't feel any emotional connection with the latter, I'd still pop her cherry, provided she's cute/hot enough to make me hard, but dating is a no go.

autoNFA · 2015-07-21T16:46:09+00:00

Thing is, promiscuity has a way of killing butterflies. It's not something I choose – attraction is not a choice. I find promiscuity unattractive, and I believe most men feel the same way.

Lonny_zone · 2015-07-21T16:56:09+00:00

Grid, men have a minimum hotness level that must be satisfied for sex to take place (because a boner must be achieved).

Women can be stimulated by a man emulating Alpha qualities (i.e. the difference between a male SMV-5 that is getting laid and a male SMV-5 that is pathetically incel is the Alpha or Beta of their attitude). The few times I have garnered interest from women above my SMV in looks I was a situational Alpha.

If men could be sexually stimulated by the virgin they feel nothing for then TRP wouldn't exist.

wtknight · 2015-07-21T17:21:33+00:00

I'd rather date the one who I feel in love with, obviously. Even if you think that every woman should be a virgin before she is with you, what's the point of spending your time and money on somebody you don't like just because she has one quality that supposedly makes her better than the person you're in love with? With that being said, I'm not attracted to the extroverted, formerly promiscuous type of woman, but she's hypothetically better than a completely incompatible person who I'm bored to be around.

SirNemesis · 2015-07-21T17:44:32+00:00

I'd rather date a cute sloot over an uggo virgin if that is what you're asking...

wazzup987 · 2015-07-21T18:17:37+00:00

option one how is this even a question, chemistry all the way, beside virgin ar borign and if they are virgin at my age that signifies some serious baggage.

NPIF · 2015-07-21T16:52:23+00:00

Gotta love a false dichotomy.

I think one of the biggest misconceptions a lot of bloopers have about red pill is that we are not satisfied unless a girl is pure and virginal when we meet her. The fact of the matter is that most women do not have low partner counts anymore. Part of the reason red pill even exists is because men have begun to realize most women are sexually promiscuous in their twenties and thirties and thus in order to have control over one's romantic life you need to learn how to play the game. That's where red pill fits in.

Truthfully partner count doesn't matter a huge amount to me, but there is a marked difference in the way women with low counts behave Vs how women with high ones do. Women with high partner counts generally place less value on sex, which is a problem when it's the main thing guys are after. Since men are the gate keepers of commitment and women are the gatekeepers of sex, a woman who gives up sex all the time without receiving commitment generally becomes jaded and a poor quality partner. Hypergamy is in full swing because she always feels she can do better. After all, it's easy to get male attention while she's young and beautiful.

But then the wall hits. Her looks begin to fade. Guys pay less attention to her. She can still get laid any time, but the quality of men is going down and she's starting to notice. This is when women start posting those stupid "where have all the good guys gone" comments on Facebook, because they squandered their youth riding the carousel.

Now consider the opposite. A woman who is highly selective with who she sleeps with and has a low partner count understands that sex must lead to commitment for her long term happiness. Therefore she is more careful about who she sleeps with. This shows pragmatism, and a higher degree of personal maturity. It rejects the need for instant gratification which modern western culture supports, and in its place puts higher value on meeting a man of quality to share her sexuality with.

I can tell you as a guy, I'd rather have the low count girl for a few reasons. A) her attitude and communication towards me will likely be much more pleasant and honest, since she's not expecting the relationship to end any day now when she finds another guy to fuck. B) she's more likely to be in good sexual health, due to fewer partners c) she's likely to be younger in age, which is mostly just a bonus.

At the end of the day though her low partner count and sexual inexperience still does not make a guy fall in love. Love is built over long periods of time, and there's a significant amount of trust that is required for it to be sustained. In my experience it is much easier to maintain that trust with women of a lower n count because they actually value their relationship with you and aren't constantly looking to branch swing for the cheap thrills.

thereddespair · 2015-07-21T18:03:38+00:00

maybe i dont think like a guy but i am into women

i put no stock on how a person is untested, just what is the positive thing about it??? its like buying a car that has never been driven before and has not been seen how it goes on the road, recovers from it.

even if the person makes me feel something, id have a high doubt on how genuine the person is feeling or how much this person can grasp it enough to relay what is the truth, in terms of what he or she is going through in relation to me.

in simple terms, why in hell would i place a bet on a newbie when its tied to my future and i know what kind of shit i will be facing down the line

cxj · 2015-07-21T18:10:53+00:00

Option 1 hands the fuck down. If she was too promiscuous for me (20+ partners or any gangbangs) it would be a dealbreaker for me, though.

I am currently struggling with a oneitis with a formerly promiscuous qt who gives me the butterflies, bad :( she is flirtatious and has given strong indication she is considering branch swinging to me, but her current bf is alpha as fuck so idk. This is almost certainly going to end badly. Oh well

alreadyredschool · 2015-07-21T18:19:36+00:00

The slut, all day ery day. How is that even a question?

teeay · 2015-07-21T21:38:05+00:00

Either, slight preference for the slutty slut because experience and because I don't share RPs enthusiasm for LTRs with good women.

But no chance of butterflies here, being "in love" is for schmucks.

Qucumatz · 2015-07-21T21:44:09+00:00

first one. this is one of the many places trp and I diverge (because I'm not a fucking hypocrite.) if she's clean and she's never cheated, she's good.

TRPACC · 2015-07-21T16:20:15+00:00

The dilemma for red pill men is finding a hot and sexual woman with the partner count of sexually inhibited and lower smv women .

Whisper · 2015-07-21T19:39:01+00:00

Would you rather eat a bowl of dogshit that made your mouth water, or a nice juicy steak you didn't want?

dreckmal · 2015-07-21T16:19:51+00:00

We're just talking dating? Count don't matter.

I'm not going to waste my time on someone I'm not attracted to.

99_Problem · 2015-07-21T19:05:41+00:00

Why would I date someone who I feel nothing for ?

VerticalSmileyCyrus · 2015-07-21T19:14:44+00:00

Well, I chose the former. I was rowdy as hell when I was younger, and so was my wife.

I am not concerned about promiscuity because I know that I am the best she will ever have.

dejour · 2015-07-21T19:51:53+00:00

The promiscuous woman - easily. There's no point being with someone you don't like (for you or the other person)

However, the promiscuity negatively affects the likelihood that my "heart would skip".

So for this situation to arise, you're probably looking at an 8+ promiscuous women (judged on other factors). And the non-promiscuous woman is probably a 5 or less (judged on other factors).

If the women are similar in all ways except promiscuity, there is a good chance that only the non-promiscuous woman would inspire heart skips and fluttering butterflies.

TUKINDZ · 2015-07-22T00:30:27+00:00

I'll take the relatively modest girl with a healthy (as in not promiscuous) sexual history who makes my heart flutter.

kkjdroid · 2015-07-22T05:01:30+00:00

In love and she's experienced? Sounds like a good deal.

Cloudchaserkestral · 2015-07-22T08:20:07+00:00

If someone has experienced a lot and still chooses me that's valuable, much more valuable than someone without any experience thinking I'm the greatest thing.

Besides that I know that she's sexual - which is a must, and probably a skilled lover if she's that experienced. As long as she's STD free, I'd take promiscuous over virgin any day!

blametheboogie · 2015-07-22T11:20:28+00:00

As long as she's not moving in and hasn't slept with people I know give me the former slut who can make my dick do the Meposian dance of joy.

thedeti · 2015-07-21T16:23:27+00:00

The question isn't pertinent to men.

Women do not make our hearts skip and give us butterflies.

Women either are sexually desirable to us, or they are not.

We don't get to "feelings" until we first get to sexual attraction.

But, since I have to answer it as posed, I would date and have sex with (not marry, not commit to, not LTR) the formerly promiscuous woman who I like, than the virgin who I don't feel anything for.

At least I can enjoy some ROI with the formerly promiscuous woman who still has some SMV but probably a sharply reduced MMV.

Archwinger · 2015-07-21T16:54:58+00:00

Fuck one or both. Date neither. There are 3.6ish billion women out there, and girls like me. What the hell am I doing only considering two of them?

quantumtrollening · 2015-07-21T17:34:12+00:00

Ugh, no virgins please. I like me some experience.

PetticoatRuled · 2015-07-21T22:22:14+00:00

She's got a heart of gold she'd never let me down But you're the one that always turns me on You keep me comin' 'round

I know her love is true But it's so damn easy makin' love to you

I got my mind made up I need to feel your touch

I'm gonna run to you

Oh - but her love is cold It wouldn't hurt her if she didn't know, 'cause...

When it gets too much I need to feel your touch

DOCTORxTEETH · 2015-07-21T16:49:35+00:00

I'm not sure it's possible for a promiscuous woman to make my heart skip. I'm sorry, I'm not really answering your question, but knowing that she's promiscuous will make me detach from her emotionally, making it really hard to take her seriously. So my answer is neither.

Plugawy_Nedznik · 2015-07-21T17:04:03+00:00

Virgin for sure, hey at least I wouldn't have to worry about how many dicks she'd sucked before she inevitably leaves me.

truthuncensored · 2015-07-21T17:22:42+00:00

Really weird question.

Your question is based on false premises.

Firstly, it's not a dichotomy. A man can have a virgin he's grooming for an LTR and a slut he's just fucking.

Secondly, you're assuming (for some strange reason) that a man would have no feelings for the virgin. Why? Is she not on his radar?

Thirdly, you're assuming a man gets the same kind of feelings as a woman gets. Why would a man be feeling butterflies for the slut and not the virgin?

All other things being equal I believe most men would go for the virgin before the slut.

The more insightful question would be who would a man rather marry: a rich slut or a poor virgin?

I would marry the rich slut before the poor virgin because that would protect my assets the most. If things with the slut went south I could always opt out of the marriage and take cash and prizes with me. I'd be screwed if
the poor virgin divorced me.

Dietyz · 2015-07-21T19:00:35+00:00

I might date the promiscuous one, but it would only be as a STR until I found another who "makes me heart skip"

If I never found that girl I would stick around with the promiscuous one but never fully commit(marriage)

I wouldn't even notice the virgins existence if I felt nothing for her, so there would be no way for me to even know shes a virgin

GoldPisseR · 2015-07-21T20:59:15+00:00

I think even guys in RP are intimidated of virgins.

"If a girl hasn't sucked a dick by 20-22 , something's wrong with her."

Some girls wait for marriage,some girls haven't found love yet, its unbelievable to them.

But its easier for me to trust a hot girl who shows interest in me if I am her first. I feel turned on by the fact that I'll be the first one she'd explore her sexuality with.

Sex is very powerful, so virginity matters a lot.Of course if thats the only special thing about her, it won't work out.

exit_sandman · 2015-07-21T22:01:55+00:00

"Date" as in "seriously date with the prospect of staying with her permanently"?

Neither, though the former while of course be harder for me. But since I am well aware that she's an actual risk, I would with a bleeding heart accept that I have to move on at some point.

Prometheus720 · 2015-07-21T22:09:30+00:00

It depends on how promiscuous the woman was. If she has a triple-digit count, I probably would be concerned for a few reasons.

You're SURE you never got an STD from that?
You suddenly want a committed relationship after that?
Does sex even excite you at this point? Seems like nothing would be shiny and new to you.

I probably wouldn't commit to someone with a history like that. Would I have an open relationship with someone like that? Maybe. Would I be FWB with someone like that? Certainly. But she's made it clear that she likes herself some free love, and one dick, no matter HOW good it is, cannot compare to the near-infinite number of dicks available out in the wild. I'm not that stupid.

The virgin on the other hand...why? That's just gross. That's some 50 Shades level stupidity. If you want your partner to be literally obsessed with you, try BDSM instead of fucking up naive girls.

ShangoThor · 2015-07-21T22:14:06+00:00

Meh, this isn't really a choice. Feeling something for the girl is vital for a relationship. I would much prefer a virgin but given the binary choices here I don't see why one would choose a virgin that you have no attraction for.

InformalCriticism · 2015-07-21T23:13:58+00:00

Kind of a tough call. Like people are saying, there's no real obsession with virgins, but you get a lot of good things from someone without experience with sex; no chance to be compared, the excitement of exploring new things, harder to lose its novelty when you're the only one they think about when they think about sex (except with fantasies, of course).

The slut that makes me have feels? Sounds like a contradiction in terms, but for the sake of argument, does she feel the same way? I mean. Life has taught me it doesn't matter if you would die for someone, it doesn't mean shit if they can't be bothered with you.

I guess at the core of the question you're asking "women of equal value in every way, but for sexual history are yours, the catch is you get to have feelings for a slut, or feel nothing for a virgin, which do you choose?"

TL;DR The slut.

Anarki3x6 · 2015-07-22T02:18:36+00:00

Inherently flawed question, because, why would you date anyone you feel nothing for?

Edit: I guess some people would, my answer is neither... neither is always an option!

cipahs · 2015-07-22T03:29:46+00:00

Bang the former, if I was late thirties.maybe date the latter.

redpilldude · 2015-07-22T04:24:17+00:00

I wouldn't date either.

lbspredh · 2015-07-22T09:21:16+00:00

That's a loaded question

chazzALB · 2015-07-22T14:34:33+00:00

lol. I'm far too old for butterflies.

LordFishFinger · 2015-07-22T20:10:02+00:00

Does "promiscuous" mean "cheating"?

Because if not, then #1 for sure.

If so, then neither. If neither isn't an option, then #2.

thefisherman1961 · 2015-07-21T19:21:56+00:00

Depends on the context. For a LTR, I'd rather have the virgin, but for a plate I'd rather have the slut (assuming she has no STD's).

Your question has a loophole though, because my heart doesn't skip and I don't get butterflies in my stomach the way I do when I'm with someone who I know is worthy of my commitment, which a slut is not.

rafay_M · 2015-07-21T20:34:21+00:00

I would plate both.

What the fuck is with these BPers picking one or the other?

B00TYMASTER · 2015-07-21T22:02:58+00:00

Once a Ho, always a Ho

That being said, no Ho could ever make my heart skip and stomach twist

You can't turn a Ho into a housewife

despisedlove2 · 2015-07-21T18:22:54+00:00

It is not a matter of purity. It is a matter of finding someone with an n count less than 4, who is LTR material.

Given your question, the second. Feelings can develop with time. Trust is impossible in the first case.

There is no such thing as a formerly promiscuous person.

meehan666 · 2015-07-21T17:07:39+00:00

Real men don't make decisions based on "feels".

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