Got punched by a dude for chatting with his GF

drmundro · 2016-12-18T14:40:54+00:00

Women will always rave on how fighting is bad blah blah blah.

Who gives a fuck what they say. Most of them secretly love it.

Battle-Scars · 2016-12-18T15:12:53+00:00

Sounds like you played it perfect. If someone hits you, hit them back. Fuck those moralizing pussies droning on about how you were in the wrong, I guarantee you gave the girls at the party some tingles. Better to have a rep as a guy who won't be afraid to use his fists if needed. Would have been hilarious if you would have shouted "he has a gun, call 911" and watched the crowd freak out.

DynamicPressure · 2016-12-18T14:44:15+00:00

He brought war to your doorstep. You acted to protect yourself. Glad you drew blood, as that demoralized him not to fight and just talk shit. At this point you should have disengaged you had already won.

You realize the woman is partially to blame here? She knew she had a boyfriend, she didn't mention his existance after 10 mins of convo? I speculate she may have been truly into you and/or trying to make him jealous. The not so casual glances at you from afar weren't a mistake. She was playing games. It's also likely she was aloof/naive to how you two chatting would be perceived by others.

This story is why many men are dead now. Unknowingly/innocently walking into a situation with variables out of thier control when dealing with women.

There isn't much you could have done differently other than completely disengage once the fighting was over. Glad you're okay.

Westernhagen · 2016-12-18T15:05:44+00:00

"Man, only my true male friends stood with me, everyone else disapproved, i had to listen 30min+ of moralizing from some girl friends, i tried to justify myself but they would not listen."

STFU don't DEER. Especially to women about fighting another man.

BusterVadge · 2016-12-18T14:35:39+00:00

You did the right thing by punching him in the face. He'll think twice before he pulls the same shit again. As /u/privacythrowaway2003 said, once he mentioned a gun, you should have been out of there.

bigfatmelvin · 2016-12-18T15:55:28+00:00

To hit him back was the right move and if it stopped there you would have been golden, but it looks like you did some shit talking and made a fool of yourself afterwards right? Let violence speak for itself man. Any time you knock someone on their ass and all eyes are on you, your reaction to victory will determine whether most people will think "What a badass" or "What an asshole". Let victory be the end, and don't ruin potential glory by reacting like a bloodthirsty 14 year old. Just say nothing and leave.

Tom_The_Human · 2016-12-18T15:46:02+00:00

i even apologized for people but obviously the damage was already done.

Why? Tell them to fuck off.

Strum_Gewehr · 2016-12-18T17:06:12+00:00

The strongest proof of a woman's SMV is two males fighting over her. Thats some validation she will be humble bragging for a long time.

Franklinstain · 2016-12-19T01:05:57+00:00

This will get buried but I have seen this a lot working the door at bars. Some girls LOVE starting shit between their man, and random dudes. It's an aphrodisiac for their sick and twisted power trip. Most of the time their guy is emotionally unstable and a good fighter and the guys she picks to fight him are 'perceived' as an easy target. He beats ass, they go home and fuck. You probably broke this cycle and ruined both their nights.

Never justify defending yourself to anyone, he hit you, you made him look like a bitch. Time to leave the situation and find somewhere else to chill. That was your only fuck up and I don't even see it as that big of a deal considering that you haven't had this happen much in your life. If this ever happens again, grab your friends, all of them, and leave. Anyone you leave behind can and will be used as a punching bag once you leave.

tandemlee · 2016-12-18T16:30:18+00:00

Wtf. Someone hits you you hit him back. There is not introspection needed here. He's an asshole and whoever sided with him is a deluded loser.

You are 100 % in the right they can fuck off

Brewjo · 2016-12-18T15:26:25+00:00

Unless you get punched a lot for a living or spend hours boxing/mma whatever, having someone just walk up and punch you will blow your frame.

It's okay to get rattled by this one and your mates sound like good guys for having your back afterwards.

It's worth analyzing for red-flags but don't waste your energy re-writing comic books in your head of how it should have gone.

Also, in all seriousness- go the doctor and get checked out for internal injuries.

Then see if you can file a police report, not to press charges but at least have a medical-record from the Doctor and a report with the police should this generate any blow-back.

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AudioRebellion · 2016-12-18T17:10:41+00:00

To the OP i highly recommend you go to the police about this ASAP.

It's not stated if he is a student at your school, but with the threat of him having a gun and a bad temperament as well the potential for an ambush at school is firmly within the realm of possibility. This is very serious, which the recent issues of on campus violence you should've went to the campus security with this. They will treat a guy threatening a student with a gun very serious to the point the police will pay him a visit and potentially take away his gun(s) and make it impossible for him to purchase anymore.

Anyone who calls you out for being a snitch or being a pussy tell them to fuck off. Catching bullets over pussy you weren't even fucking is a stupid way to go. The best you can do is put him on the radar of the police. You don't if this guy has a history of violence or mental illness. You don't know his capability to do you harm. I only say this because you're not a "fighter" so you really don't know how to handle situations like this and I'm probably guessing that you're not that "big". At least enough to discourage behavior like this from happening. Yeah you hit him back but it would've been better to have him think twice about hitting you in the first place.

Unfortunately you met a psycho bitch that knows exactly the type of guy her bf is. She probably got excited seeing 2 guys fight over her.

BobbyPeru · 2016-12-18T19:48:19+00:00

i had to listen 30min+ of moralizing from some girl friends, i tried to justify myself but they would not listen

This is where you messed up. Never DEER to chicks. You should have just STFU and left the scene

Man, only my true male friends stood with me, everyone else disapproved,

Suggested reading: "The subtle art of not giving a fuck" by Mark Manson.

You instinctively defended yourself. There is nothing wrong with that. Stop caring about what other people think so much.

red4455 · 2016-12-18T23:33:06+00:00

Girl said bf incoming = immediately expect some type of physical altercation.
That guy knows you'll hit back, which is a good thing, making him think twice about starting something again.
STFU with the girls (been said already) or the guys.
Don't feel ashamed. It came out of no where. Don't let a group of bitches make you feel bad for defending yourself.
Refocus your mind, go back to normal. May take some time.

Areu4realm8 · 2016-12-18T15:27:33+00:00

In our evolutionary past this was much more common. That's why approaching girls is instinctively scary. Someone else made a post about this a while ago. You're not scared of the girl, but of what other males in the group will react to you getting the girl right in front of their eyes.

privacythrowaway2003 · 2016-12-18T13:56:59+00:00

As soon as he said the word gun, you should of just ran.

This type of outcome, is unfortunately the reality of playing the pussy game.

Just be glad to be alive OP.

trey_at_fehuit · 2016-12-18T15:36:31+00:00

You made out like the winner. Let them grandstand.

Just avoid him for legal reasons and let it go. I did the same in a similar situation.

Lo-G · 2016-12-18T16:50:01+00:00

Own up to it. People like strength, and whatever else happened, you showed strength. Just accept what happened calmly, you'll probably get mad pussy from this.

xXSoroxXx · 2016-12-18T20:01:17+00:00

What an insecure bitch. I would recommend boxing or MMA. I've been boxing for 4 years and I most likely would have hit him in the face on reflex alone.

mummersfarce_is_done · 2016-12-18T14:23:39+00:00

I'm not exactly sure you have handled it wrongly. Sometimes external forces have bigger influence than you can control. Maybe if you wouldn't punch back, people would stood by you? What difference would that make really?

Worry more about not getting shot I would say. You will not really see those people that much after school, will you? Even then, infamy has it's perks just as fame. Getting shotgunned has no perk other than seeing what happens when you die.

The_BitterTruth · 2016-12-18T15:43:02+00:00

Does a titan morn when he steps on an ant, or angers the colony?

dgillz · 2016-12-18T16:20:29+00:00

I wouldn't have apologized, but other than that I think you did good.

Mouthpiece · 2016-12-18T17:37:21+00:00

So now you know who your true friends are. Sounds like a win to me.

[deleted] · 2016-12-18T15:38:02+00:00

There's no way to win in this situation.

Just excommunicate those of your acquaintances that are demonizing you and move on. At least you chose the side where no one will call you a pussy and you can pride yourself in the fact that you defended yourself.

vengefully_yours · 2016-12-18T21:13:51+00:00

i tried to justify myself but they would not listen. Oh boy, so many people i know came to say i was on the wrong, even if it was him starting it hitting me without a word, i even apologized for people but...

Right there you fucked up. Never apologize, state flatly that he started shit he couldn't handle.

i'm not an aggressive person, but now people think i'm a aggressive jerk which makes me feel really ashamed.

That right there is why he hit you.

I'd rather people fear me, I grew up having people hit me and fuck with me, because I was non-aggressive and that made me an easy target. Fuck that shit. Nobody sober fucks with me, because my body language says "I'll fuck you up, rip off your head and shit down your neck." Drunk college kids try to start shit, and little guys trying to act tough, as long as they don't swing they can say whatever they like.

The thing is, you need to be able to back it up. You can't have my mentality and confidence without the work and experience behind it. You will get your ass kicked. I try to be unassuming, blend in, so I don't end up paying for some morons medical bills. I have three training, muscle, quickness, and experience fighting, you don't. You need it, and you need to realize that being ashamed of being able to defend yourself is blue pill bullshit.

Yeah guys get pissed when I talk to their girl, no they're not usually stupid enough to hit me. If you're going to live this way, you have to get your shit together or be willing to take a beating.

That being said, this reads like a troll.

Sir_Distic · 2016-12-18T18:29:41+00:00

Man, only my true male friends stood with me, everyone else disapproved, i had to listen 30min+ of moralizing from some girl friends, i tried to justify myself but they would not listen. Oh boy, so many people i know came to say i was on the wrong, even if it was him starting it hitting me without a word, i even apologized for people but obviously the damage was already done.

Apologizing and trying to explain or justify doesn't work. You were in the right, but that doesn't matter. Especially to people who don't know the story.

SkorchZang · 2016-12-19T00:49:13+00:00

No fucking way man. You did the right thing on instinct, it would have been ridiculous for you to just take the injury and pretend to laugh it off.

Guy lays his hands on you for any reason, he's open game. The social civilities are over and forgotten about the instant that happens, doesn't matter who disapproves of it, you should absolutely get your revenge then and there.

Hopefully nobody was seriously injured and it was a bloody nose richly deserved. Maybe he'll even come around to offer friendship and make it up to you later, if he is not a dickhead. This was a matter of him vs you in the GFs eyes, and the way he handled it would've been brutally effective if you folded up and didn't bloody up his face in response immediately. He took that risk, and it didn't work out for him this time. I'd stay away from the girl and her circle anyways if possible, just in case he was not kidding about that gun and psycho attitude. No pussy is worth getting shot over.

favours_of_the_moon · 2016-12-18T17:20:37+00:00

Dude sucker punched you. Don't apologize.

Maybe bang his girl.

juliusstreicher · 2016-12-18T17:37:33+00:00

You apologized for defending yourself. You tried to explain. You stayed around for half an hour while people excoriated you.

Are you a retard or something???

p_121 · 2016-12-18T17:50:28+00:00

I had a similar experience when I was in grade school OP. Some kid came up to me and smacked me in the balls (in a joking manner, but still, I never jokingly hit another man in his sack, that's just off limits) and I punched him right back in the face. He didn't even hit me that hard, but I hit him twice as hard and people saw me as the asshole because he started crying.

The story ended with him literally running to his mama crying (his mom worked on campus) and I had to go to the dean's office where he lied about ever hitting me and claimed he had witnesses to back him up. Since it was the first time any of us got into a fight or trouble, we were both let off the hook with a warning.

The funniest part was that after we left the dean's office, he asked "So are we cool now?" and I just turned the other cheek and never looked back lol. People years later still saw me as the aggressor in that situation.

SeemedGood · 2016-12-18T18:17:17+00:00

When someone assaults you out of the blue, you have no choice but to end the threat to yourself ASAP - and that usually means executing overwhelming force on the aggressor in order to disable him from continuing the assault. Doing anything other than that is stupid and likely to lead to worse outcomes.

This will be true, regardless of what others say and will be legally defensible in most jurisdictions.

randommofo · 2016-12-18T19:12:10+00:00

Honestly, good on ya. I'd fuck you.

VanityKings · 2016-12-18T19:45:12+00:00

The only mistake you made was not knocking the pussy out on.
Some stupid motherfucker tries a cheap shot on you and you better make sure he goes home in an ambulance

freddymerckx · 2016-12-18T20:10:15+00:00

Nah, somebody hits me, chances are I'm going to hit back. What a moron, hits a dude for talking to "his girl". Life will catch up with that POS rest assured but otherwise move on

selfsufficientnigga · 2016-12-18T22:12:43+00:00

You did right. Do not doubt yourself over 'being violent', and do not let the ugly hags affect how you feel about yourself.

You are a man, and you showed that turd what happens to those who don't treat you like one.

As for the 'context', a little bit of 'bad boy' image is a positive, not a negative, so don't worry about that either.

Forcetobereckonedwit · 2016-12-19T01:09:14+00:00

You did the right thing. You should have hit him 5 times. ANyone who gives you a hard time about it, you just tell them "Anybody hits me, I hit back, including YOU".

czatara · 2016-12-19T01:53:45+00:00

Don't blame the guy, she played you both in order to get a huge validation in front of her peers. Never get caught in a Popeye-Brutus situation!

t3nchi · 2016-12-19T03:50:38+00:00

If he threw the first punch, you're in the clear to throw some back.

AmericanCivilWar2017 · 2016-12-19T04:03:02+00:00

All is fair in love and war. Carry some weapons next time. Fists can persuade, but a nice blade can coerce.

massivewang · 2016-12-19T04:49:37+00:00

Fuck people. You got hit, unprovoked you were assaulted and you defended yourself. Everyone who doesn't agree can eat a dick. You've done nothing wrong.

Fedor_Gavnyukov · 2016-12-19T05:06:45+00:00

sounds like a bunch of idiots if you ask me. i would find myself a new circle of people to chill with.

fuu969 · 2016-12-19T05:14:05+00:00

Do you have witnesses ?

I am not sure it applies where you live but I'd go to the police and make a complaint that you were assaulted and threatened with a gun.

He could have killed you because of pussy ? What's wrong with that guy ?

Let the system work for you this time.

Enkidu_22 · 2016-12-19T06:55:58+00:00

Fuck those pussies. You can talk to whoever you want. You lost it by allowing the people around you to turn you into their bitch. Ask those women "friends" who lectured you if they think this is Iran and he owned that girl.

kremedelakrym · 2016-12-19T11:54:58+00:00

That guy was an insecure pussy that deserves be not only punched but knocked out for sucker punching you over something as trivial as talking to his girl. So well done.

primo_pastafarian · 2016-12-18T22:05:00+00:00

He said he had a gun and that you were fucked... that is a death thread. And you had witnesses. Call the cops on him, it's probably not even too late even now.

justgotalpha · 2016-12-18T15:37:46+00:00

I don't want to judge here But i think you let your guards down when you saw the guy coming(specially if she mentioned that that is her boyfriend)you should just left it alone because what happened was exactly what is supposed to happen if you talking to someones girlfriend or boyfriends in their presence,You got played dude she obviously wanted to make her boyfriend jealous, otherwise she would had mentioned that as soon as you approached her,she knows her boyfriend bad boy behavior so she led the convo until he gets back and punches you, women like to do that as a form of validation.Just be careful next time ,i had a similar scenerio once but i left right away cause you never know what could happen.

12isLimited · 2016-12-18T16:56:32+00:00

Why care, you did what you needed to do , honestly, all good

okiedokie321 · 2016-12-18T17:12:07+00:00

You did alright, but keep your guard up when a guy approaches like that.

The lesson here is to never escalate. I have friends who had the run in with the mafia before. Once, a friend of mine threatened to bring a HMMWV from the armory and zone it on a guy's family home after he was seen hitting on his gf. We men are very dangerous and do not rationalize.

of-maus-and-men · 2016-12-18T18:36:10+00:00

and i committed the biggest mistake of continuing this nonsense.

Maybe. Depends what you did after you punched him in the face.

So everyone treated it like i was the aggressor.

Honestly, it doesn't matter what people think because no one is getting sued. I'd worry about whether I would be deemed as the first aggressor if the guy sued me in court for battery and assault. Of course, you would have valid defenses, but who knows what witnesses would say.

Point is, shit happened. We all get hot-headed sometimes. Good for sticking up for yourself. Who cares if people think you're an aggressive jerk? They'll forget about it soon. People's critical opinion of you will change overtime past the moment when they give you a chance to explain yourself.

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p3n1x · 2016-12-18T20:00:51+00:00

but now people think i'm a aggressive jerk which makes me feel really ashamed.

Oh get over it (and your victimization). You were assaulted and defended yourself. Take responsibility for your actions and stop showing people our replies to justify yourself to them. Fuck them.

netherlanddwarf · 2016-12-18T20:18:24+00:00

Dude just forget it. This whole situation is not worth your time. Get up, shake off the dirt and live.

mdcrubengonza · 2016-12-18T20:33:46+00:00

Congrats bro, looks like you whipped his ass, I'm sure that chick will be fantasizing about you when she fucks her faggot ass boyfriend. You win some and others you just fuck up.

arealbigboss · 2016-12-18T20:42:44+00:00

Good thing you hit him in the face, fucking asshole that guy is. He was obviously threatened by your presence. Worst part is that you reacted and lost your cool. Don't worry though. As long as you learn from this its okay, and you won a fight so that is good!

drew967 · 2016-12-18T20:54:06+00:00

In all honesty, if you got hit in the ribs go get an xray and keep copies of it. Just in case that guy comes back with an assault charge, you can prove that he hit you and you have witnesses that can say he hit you first.

In context, that wont make much sense to the jury. If he says he saw you talking to his gf so you hit him? Theyll be inclined to believe that you did talk to his gf so he hit you and out of reflex you hit him to defend yourself.

ray_bloomberg · 2016-12-18T21:14:55+00:00

Hey Man. It was a mistake. You lost frame temporarily. You realize and introspect. Don't beat yourself to it. Also, for others, IDGAF + move on

Barry_Gunt · 2016-12-18T21:29:46+00:00

He hit you, you fuck him up no question. That's what you do.

And when you do it, you stand by your decision. Fuck the haters, that guy deserved a beat down.

Moonboots606 · 2016-12-18T21:47:00+00:00

You were not in the wrong by defending yourself. If that guy did not approve of you talking to his girl, he should've conducted himself like a civilized person. But he chose not to. And then you were struck, for no goddamn reason. You did what you needed to and responded appropriately. Sorry this happened to you.

skankhunt-yon-juu-ni · 2016-12-18T22:08:25+00:00

Call the campus police/security force. They have absolutely nothing to do and if they get a report of a dude threatening with a gun, they'll do something about it.

Donald_Fuck · 2016-12-18T22:29:13+00:00

This shit right here. If you aren't getting in fights you aren't gaming hard enough.

acecutty · 2016-12-19T00:26:25+00:00

Yes, women love fighting. Yes, they lie about this.

No, fighting is not beneficial and should be avoided.

Either way, at least you won lol. I don't see anything that you could have done differently though. He was the one that was acting like a retard, not you.

kellykebab · 2016-12-19T00:45:36+00:00

Why did you apologize? You defended yourself. Next time, lay him out. Who cares

Also you shouldn't have listened to 39 minutes of (show) lecturing. You should have listened to 10 seconds, cut her off by saying the other guy was in the wrong and bounced.

grass_cutter · 2016-12-19T00:58:03+00:00

Don't beat yourself up.

Drunk guys 'beating on each other' in their 20s is stupid, but common.

Since he threw a punch at you first, I would not feel bad, or surprised, that you slugged him back. He probably learned a lesson that day as well.

However, life is not like the movies. Typically, I would not 'slug' every guy who deserved it, or you would end up slugging dozens of losers every year, with nothing really to gain for it, and no fewer assholes in the universe, trust me. Plus some guys truly have nothing to lose, they are complete loser shit stains, and will gladly ruin their own life to get their licks in or pull a gun on you.

So, it's a tough decision.

On the one hand, if the guy poses no threat, usually it's the far better idea to just walk away. Your ego won't like it, your pride won't like it, looking at that little pussy will make your blood boil, and your alcohol-riddled, testosterone-riddled brain would love nothing more than ringing his fucking bell, but rationally, there is little to gain, and a lot that can go wrong. Like the guy is a loser at the end of his rope and wants to scrap on the ground with you. What are you going to do then, kick his ass, go to jail, show up to work the next day with a black eye?

On the other hand, there is some satisfaction for giving some chump a quick tap particularly if he engaged in physical violence first and you feel the need to defend yourself, but eh.

I would not feel bad about it.

Yeah, girls hate a loose cannon, but the guy struck you first, BEFORE a screaming match ensued, so there was little opportunity to walk away.

This is common shit among drunken, moron territorial dudes. Everyone is mister big dick with a few beers in them, some are stupid enough to even face down a .44 Magnum, they have little fear when drunk.

So yeah, it's common to see the strutting and posturing and the shitty boxing. You at least recognized it's pretty foolish.

It happens though.

No one gives a shit, and most people here are right. People, women, secretly love at the end of the day that you're willing to step in and take action, when shit hits the fan. They just don't like hot-heads and guys who are easily baited.

In your case it was a perfectly fine reaction but eh.

It's highly unusual that a guy will come out swinging, no words exchanged, because you were talking to his girlfriend but had no idea. That's a guy who's asking for trouble and looks like he got it.

PRBL3MS · 2016-12-19T01:26:16+00:00

As a veteran of the college partying scene I can guarantee all of this happened probably because you have a reputation.

Dudes who go to parties a lot and hit on women all the time DO NOT have good reputations.

I would expect this is the cause of all this. When a chick looks at you they might as well be talking to their friend about that douchebag over there just as likely as checking you out. Probably more likely tbh.

piccolo3nj · 2016-12-19T02:10:20+00:00

You made the right move. Don't listen to what others say.

Eyeswears · 2016-12-19T02:57:40+00:00

How in the hell did he manage to convince a mob of people you were the aggressor when he literally walked up to you and threw the first punch. I think you're leaving out some key details.

Luckyluke23 · 2016-12-19T03:16:47+00:00

if you didn't use the line " yeah, well, you should see the other guy" then you didn't do it right.

but it's a nice move to punch him, I don't know what I would have done in that situation. I mean I'd probs be too shocked because i didn't know it was coming.

crowscountingspades · 2016-12-19T03:23:00+00:00

That's funny, when I'm hit in the abs, not expecting it, it hurts less than when I am expecting it. I sort of "go with it"... Am I not remembering my life right? (LOL)

HeinousFu_kery · 2016-12-19T03:31:40+00:00

The guy kept talking a lot of shit, said he had a gun and i was fucked, that kinda of shit

I've seen this happen - if he was armed and serious about it, he'd have just flat out shot you. Lights out, game over. The rest is theatrics.

I've got a bad temper, but some things aren't worth it.

NO--LIVES--MATTER · 2016-12-19T03:41:37+00:00

You reacted like seaweed in a current, like a daisy in the wind. Lil bitch.

nmb93 · 2016-12-19T03:53:36+00:00

Brass knuckles are illegal in my state but I'm pure skin and bones. Kinda considering picking some up...

Cesare_MA · 2016-12-19T03:56:17+00:00

You played it right. If you're first reaction when someone hits you got absolutely no reason is to hit them back, you've got the right mindset.

michael_wilkins · 2016-12-19T04:15:58+00:00

So now you have a reputation as being somewhat violent around campus?

How is that a bad thing? Keep chatting up chicks like you were before.

God-Emperor23 · 2016-12-19T04:46:16+00:00

This is when you say "this bitch ain't worth fighting for, PEACE"

leflegjones · 2016-12-19T05:21:46+00:00

You have a terrible "circle" don't apologize anymore. Shrug it off and keep it moving.

Herdsengineers · 2016-12-19T06:12:21+00:00

I know a few guys that got in a fight recently after one was messing with the other's girl. It sounds like she wasn't instigating it and even tried to defuse things before the fisticuffs started. The non-boyfriend got f*cked up pretty bad too. He's a really awkward dude and a bit of a jerk.

I wrote that to set the stage for this - I know 2 other girls that both know the jerk that got his ass kicked. They have both told me that they secretly wish they were there to see him get his ass kicked.

So yeah, women secretly love it when they have emotions invested in either liking the guy that wins or disliking the guy that loses.

sirlancer · 2016-12-19T07:47:25+00:00

You drew first blood so people are gonna look at you as the asshole, but I wouldn't worry about what any girl has to say about it.

At the end of the day when a woman see's a man go primal she can yap all day about how mad violence makes her and how stupid boys can be, but hell its been that way since the beginning of time. They love it deep down. Our rebellion towards their "talk it out" nonsense is what keeps them coming back in the end.

writemeoffgiveuponme · 2016-12-19T08:23:15+00:00

You ought to send an anonymous inquiry to the state police why they issued this moron a cc license. They might take it back on a whim if they think he's a danger to anyone. Fucks like that shouldn't carry.

Oz70NYC · 2016-12-19T11:00:54+00:00

Storytime: Yesterday night on my way to my weekend bouncer gig, I stop in at the 7-11 on 7th ave and 14th street here in NYC to grab a Red Bull. As usual every weekend, there's this bumb standing at the front door opening it for people going in and out, and asking for money as they do.

Every weekend I ignore the dude and open the other door for myself. I'm no dummy, I know the dude ain't homeless as I see him on his Tracphone sometimes. So this particular weekend I guess old boy felt froggy and said "Oh look at this high and mighty nigga." So I stop...look at the cashier, who at that point has pure dread in his eyes cuz he knows EXACTLY what's about to go down, the look at my dumb, coked up friend.

I say "you got some sorta problem, dude?" He says "You always walk pass and don't even acknowledge a nigga. High and might coonin' ass." I'm humoring him at this point, so I say "I don't acknowledge you because you aren't needy. You're lazy. You've got a Public Assistance phone, so you're not broke." Then old boy tries to jump at me suddenly...and I calmy weave his lunge, scoop him from his knees, lift him into the air and launch him across the sidewalk. (I go 6'4" 270lbs...so physically picking up people isn't hard) I don't stick around to admire my work of course, but there's enough people who saw it all go down that my bases are covered.

Bottom line...never flinch. If someone starts a fight with you, finish the fight with them staring at the sky.

TheRedPillRipper · 2016-12-19T11:25:29+00:00

Great instinctive reaction OP. Poor timing. As soon as someone's within your "comfort zone" fucking eyes up. As soon as this cunt-rag started into you it's maximum velocity till either he's laid out or you are. It's that simple. When I was growing up I learned pretty quick that when it kicks off it's either you or them. You decide. And who care's if you're seen as the aggressor. If it came down to it he would've been viewed as the aggressor. You however SHOULD ALWAYS BE THE FINISHER. You had the claim of calling self defence so you can go all out (within reason) because you were in fear of your safety due to this oxygen thief attacking you first. Great work on the nose. Next time; break it.

N.B. If someone punches you in the gut and you have the chance to retaliate don't hesitate; make your first shot count and smash him straight in the throat. Hard to talk shit when you struggling to breath.

AshyBoneVR4 · 2016-12-19T11:55:59+00:00

i tried to justify myself but they would not listen.

This right here is where you fucked up. You didn't do anything wrong. You defended yourself. No one has the right to put their hands on you. On top of that, the piece of shit threatened your life. That shit will not fly by any means. Those people telling you that you where in the wrong are idiots and don't need a second thought.... First for that matter. Your reaction was fine. The only thing I would have done was left after being separated. He still wants to talk shit, let him.

Raikkonen716 · 2016-12-19T12:44:15+00:00

How to spot a loser:

When he sees his girl talking to a guy, he blames the guy, like the girl has magically no fault in this.
When he sees his girl talking to a guy, he loses his frame and beats the guy.

How to spot a psycho:

He says he has a gun.

So, op, you met a psycho loser. I am glad you punched him, but be careful with him.

BackWithAVengence12 · 2016-12-19T14:16:25+00:00

You should have fucked him up. Don't take that shit.

protipforyou19 · 2016-12-19T14:33:23+00:00

Next time someone tells you they have a gun threateningly you need to treat it with more seriousness, aka calling cops. You can't just go around barking off how you have a gun to win fights, that guy is beyond repair, needs to be in jail somewhere.

Ohboohoolittlegirl · 2016-12-19T15:36:06+00:00

I always try to make fun of the original aggressor, to show everyone around how hard he's trying to validate himself by violence. BUT, I will always defend myself and I will not be satisfied till either one of us stopped moving.

filitantmeminist · 2016-12-19T17:26:41+00:00

Its more important to shame the female in these situations than the male.

Hate on the male he feels validated.

Shame the female and you sow discord in her mind about him as a partner socially. And the social is always #1 with females.

Entrefut · 2016-12-19T19:11:20+00:00

That guy was an ass, me personally I enjoy tossing guys like that to the cops, because they're fucking idiots. I come from law enforcement background, so I know fights are never worth it if they go south. Wanting to get in fights to make pussy wet is stupid, you don't need to put your life, reputation, career or anything else at risk for some ahole who can't keep his shit together. His girl isn't worth it, he isn't worth it. Once again I come from that back ground so I generally only see worst case scenarios, if someone want's to fight me I'll take them to the ring, not the middle of a bar where we can both end up with jail time.

Lsegundo · 2016-12-19T19:58:44+00:00

people think i'm a aggressive jerk which makes me feel really ashamed.

Hooray for modern pussy whipped society. A man sucker punched you, but you're the bad guy for defending yourself.

lostinyukon · 2016-12-19T21:52:13+00:00

I'd say you did it correctly and he screwed up. Agressor is mate guarding and has a bloody nose from sucker punching you. He completely lost frame.

BRENDORVEGAS · 2016-12-20T15:43:54+00:00

You did well hitting him. Never explain your reactions to anyone in a situation like that. Clearly the guy was a giant pussy for getting offended that you were talking to his girl.

hahayeahthatscool · 2016-12-21T02:17:59+00:00

Huh? A grown man walked up to you and assaulted you but you're in the wrong for potentially defending your life? What adult with a sound mind would argue the ethics of that. story seems made up

MikePatton-yakyakyak · 2016-12-21T20:16:50+00:00

i had to listen 30min+ of moralizing from some girl friends

You hung around for 30 minutes listening to people shittalk you? You should've fucking left.

ecosci · 2016-12-22T01:55:21+00:00

These women will get you hurt everytime always leave them at home or alone their nothing but trouble.

Fizzdar · 2016-12-24T17:11:15+00:00

Your only real mistake was trying to justify yourself.

Shit happens. You didn't bitch out, you fought back against some angry beta.

Own your shit.

tetracyklin · 2016-12-29T18:10:12+00:00

Every single person that said you were in the wrong that night is someone you should remove from your life.

They dont know what theyre talking about.

tetracyklin · 2016-12-29T18:11:56+00:00

It seems there were a lot of shallow people on that party.

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DongleNocker · 2016-12-18T21:48:42+00:00

"I refuse to apologize for defending myself against someone uncivilized enough to not attack other men who talk to their girl friends."

deci-mator · 2016-12-18T22:52:52+00:00

Women like that shit. They feel wanted. They feel their value goes higher. Others get jealous when it doesn't happen for them. After u punched the other guy in the face. You should have gone back to your crew. Never let anyone get to your head. Make you act out of order. Society will always see you as the villain. The only explanation anyone there needed was "self defense" plain and simple. You have no reason to justify yourself to anyone.

koolaid_zombie · 2016-12-18T23:52:54+00:00

Fuck feeling embarrassed or ashamed man. He deserved to have the shit kicked out of him, and any less is a kindness you did him.

It's clear he's a clingy, insecure chump and deserved to be taught a lesson as to the consequences of picking fights with friendly strangers just because they get his girlfriend wetter than he can.

Your best course of action is to turn on IDGAF mode with the whole situation and know that the only thing you did wrong was let him off easy.

Squeezymypenisy · 2016-12-18T17:21:36+00:00

They probably turned on you because they knew the guy and my guess is most didn't see him throw the first punch. After that I would have left. No point any longer.

nolanite · 2016-12-18T17:48:25+00:00

I believe reason like to be fucked hard is because it's the male-female equivalent of fighting, and shows strength and aggression in the same way.

Just like they like to know that their man can fight, and gleam it from watching him fight other men, they like to know it and gleam it from the way they treat them in bed.

The_Turbinator · 2016-12-18T20:43:48+00:00

You know when everyone tells you to go hit the gym "for yourself", this is why.

FrancoB42 · 2016-12-18T20:57:06+00:00

Next time, hold a tighter frame than the bastard and if all else fails, kick him in the balls. But always remember, if everyone's watching you want to make them think he's the agressor. You want to make them think he's the one that's out of control, and make them fear him. With a bit of manipulation you can create a nice illusion that'll save you all those moralizing chit chat from your female friends.

FrancoB42 · 2016-12-18T20:59:08+00:00

Also remember, in Sun Tzu's words, "the best general is he who avoids battles or wars." "Usually he who gets in conflict is a bad general"

wes1274 · 2016-12-18T21:12:26+00:00

Op consider this. You aren't the insecure guy who thought he had to fight someone to mark his territory

freeupboats4every1 · 2016-12-19T00:26:37+00:00

When everyone knows a guy has problems, it gives them some weird bump in status to defend him no matter what. If the guy was threatening to shoot you, then he probably was one of those guys.

You did fine defending yourself, but I'm honestly surprised that you didn't just leave right after. You got into a fight with a guy who has mental issues. It wasn't in any way your fault, but cut your losses and make sure you don't end up with a concussion.

Tim_from_IT · 2016-12-19T01:53:17+00:00

If a guy hits you, beat him until he's down. There is no reason to take abuse from anyone. If that girl is doing something her man doesn't like then it's between them.

MyLittlePonyofDoom · 2016-12-19T07:02:58+00:00

You fucked up. Should have beaten him with a chair so he never comes back. I made this mistake once and had to deal to the cunt again.

InChargeMan · 2016-12-18T15:37:23+00:00

Should have punched him in the face immediately.

blacwidonsfw · 2016-12-18T23:33:34+00:00

Your friends suck if this happened my friendd would have my back no matter what. Get better friends

mildly_sexy · 2016-12-18T20:01:14+00:00

Only serious beta males get all "introspective" over a few traded punches.

Alphas, like myself, sure as hell don't need any lectures from women about fighting. Sometime alphas need to smack the betas when they get outta line and we don't apologize.

Women lecture betas about fighting. They don't lecture alphas.

HandsomeCub · 2016-12-18T14:44:20+00:00

If there is any justice in the world, the girl will realize how her bf is toxic to her social world and dump him. Seriously, this guy is violent and has no place in civil society if he's talking about using a gun for anything but defense. Even if you had sex with her, he has no right to lay a finger on you or threaten you. What you shouldve done is immediately take distance, verbally blow up at him for being violent, and file a police report. You might look like a wuss, but you can tell others that the alternative is for you to hit back, because his actions should not go unchallenged.

InformalCriticism · 2016-12-18T16:06:37+00:00

You defended yourself, there's nothing wrong - morally or naturally - about it. You seem butt hurt more about how other people wouldn't see your side of it.

If you're wondering how other people would have handled it, you're going to see nearly as many different answers as total answers.

TRP is better at telling you how to pick up girls. If you're talking about competing with a male in physical prowess, look up an MMA guide.

Whether or not that's a good idea is going to depend on you. You say you're not normally like that. Well, in that situation, you are. Just ask yourself if you need to avoid situations like that in the future, or if you want to be the last one standing in that situation.

If you're not normally like that, just adjust your game. Was a girl's attention or a ONS worth the risks you were taking? If so, that's on you; don't get twisted up in who else thought differently about it.

alchamest · 2016-12-18T22:46:38+00:00

Naa u did right, dont listen to all those nay sayers, if you get hit first then react or throw up the white flag.

So many people have been conditioned against 'violence' that they have no understanding of what is appropriate. What you did was appropriate. If your friends think you should get it and take it, and do nothing. Either they are really good Christians or they are all just being vagina's

wanderer779 · 2016-12-18T23:09:24+00:00

It's pretty hard to diagnose stuff like this without being there. So much information is missed that the people who were there have. And we are only getting one side of the story. But judging solely from this one post it seems you did nothing wrong.

You should have your own morals that you've arrived at from reading and deep thinking to the point where other people's opinions aren't much of a concern. Re-read meditations and then see where you stand on all of this.

dankvibez · 2016-12-18T23:29:17+00:00

Sounds like a game of shot for shot. Who cares. No one there lost respect for you or anything. Idk why those people are saying that. Did they not realize you got hit?

[deleted] · 2016-12-19T00:04:16+00:00

How do you not go into some kind of defensive stance when you know the bf of the chick you're flirting with is currently moving towards you.

scapeity · 2016-12-19T00:04:42+00:00

I have been in a lot of fights. I used to be very hot tempered in my youth.

But I have some questions.

As I understand it, you were sucker punched in the stomach.

At this point, did you feel an immediate threat of another punch and move without hesitation to defend yourself by striking the guy in the face to create distance and gain safe routes of travel?

Or did you get the wind knocked out of you when nobody else saw it, take a few steps back over hunched over trying to breathe, stand back up, and then rush the guy while punching him... Directly when everyone is looking at you?

There is a difference.

The first is a trained instinct and is actually defense, the second is a driving need to exact revenge and not defense.

Strangely, depending on what state your in, courts and police look at it in the same way.

So, truly, as someone who has been right... And wrong... Far more frequently when they were younger in these situations, now that you know this is a possibility pack it into the back of your mind and always have a plan on how to react to it.

The person sucker punched you in the stomach because he has been taught to by someone that knows what is up and probably likes to fight but didn't want anyone to see him throw the first punch. He walked up to you in a manner that didn't spike your radar as a threat and had a plan from the moment he saw you.

So, now you... Fellow Alpha... Have to react to it.

Use this as a learning experience.

Personally, you know how slick it would have been for you to take a hit like that, back off for a second and get defensive... And if nothing else came... Bought the guy a drink?

Even if he screamed at you and called you a cunt, you still would have been asserting dominance in a way that would have left you bruised... But probably admired by every female in the room.

Each to their own. Good luck

Criviton · 2016-12-19T00:00:57+00:00

u sound like the biggest normie

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Title	Got punched by a dude for chatting with his GF
Author	LucyOnTheTree
Upvotes	410
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Date	December 18, 2016 1:44 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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