Spun Plates. Got Herpes.

grewapair · 2015-07-08T05:20:24+00:00

Unmarried Women between 40 and 50 have a 70 percent infection rate.

DR. LEONE: So if you look at some population-based data in the United States and look at unmarried adults, meaning folks between the ages of 45 and 50, for women, we know the prevalence rate for genital herpes due to HSV-2 is between 50 and 70 percent. So we’re looking at close to the majority or the majority of folks in that age group who are single having genital herpes. So…

FLATOW: Let me go over that number again because you’re saying that – it’s hard to believe – you’re saying that for women between the age of 40 and 50…

Dr. LEONE: Right.

FLATOW: … unmarried women?

Dr. LEONE: Yes, unmarried women.

FLATOW: You’re saying that between 50 and 75 percent of them have herpes type 2?

Dr. LEONE: That’s exactly right. Yeah.

FLATOW: Wow.

Dr. LEONE: I know. It causes me to pause. I read the article about five times myself, saying, wow, and I do this for a living.

http://commonhealth.wbur.org/2011/04/latest-genital-herpes

p3ndulum · 2015-07-08T05:15:16+00:00

welcome to the Tinder generation

Baylien2 · 2015-07-08T04:45:05+00:00

That's why you don't base your life around fucking as many women as possible. The point of TRP is to detatch from the need to sacrifice your self respect for a woman or women.

Personally, my body is my temple. Just like I am picky with what I put in it, I am picky with who I put it in.

grrruuummmmpppyy · 2015-07-08T03:53:26+00:00

Just to add to your HSV-2 stats, women are twice as likely to carry HSV-2 than men so the statistics are more like 1 in 5 for women and 1 in 8 for men. Also as it's a lifelong infection the 1 in 5 is reached around late 20's/early 30's, 1 in 4 by mid/late 30's and 1 in 3 for people in their 40's. Also higher in the unmarried population than the general population.

So many people seems to think that genital herpes is uncommon its not funny.

collidoscope · 2015-07-08T06:45:57+00:00

Herpes has a huge stigma, mostly from the TV commercials in the 90s, I believe. I caught a strain from kissing a girl. I haven't been tested yet but I plan on it once I get out of monk mode. When I confronted the girl about it she told me she thought it "wasn't a big deal" to get cold sores. I was pissed off and I'm still pissed off about it.

How many of those 19 women asked you if you had any STDs? Did the girl you slept with inform you that she had it before she gave it to you? Do we as men have to hold ourselves to a higher standard?

Lots of high and mighty TRPers on here casting blame. A lot of the commenters act like you'll be able to spot it because the chick will be foaming at the mouth with a needle coming out of her arm. Guaranteed some of these commenters have a strain and don't know it.

sardinemanR · 2015-07-08T03:50:40+00:00

http://www.ashasexualhealth.org/stdsstis/statistics/

So it's a 50-50 shot of getting an STD, and 80% of women have HPV.

If STDs really scare you, the only real choice is MGTOW and marrying a virgin (probably not from the US though, good luck finding one here).

I think most people spinning plates don't care.

mismm · 2015-07-08T10:44:58+00:00

These comments are fucking ridiculous. Spinning plates is not about having as many ONS or fucking as many girls as you can. It's about having options, quality options.

If you have a life, this means having 2-5 max girls on rotation. I challenge anyone here to deal with more than that and successfully maintain them spinning.

martypete · 2015-07-08T03:42:45+00:00

probably the herp.

i would wait until you actually know something...

The_Junto · 2015-07-08T04:52:15+00:00

STDs have long been a huge phobia of mine and are what I consider to be the biggest hindrance towards my progression down the red pill path. I have a low partner count not necessarily from lack of success with women but as a result of my terrible anxiety when it comes to STDs. I tend to ltr girls after I know they are completely safe and develop oneitis not necessarily from an emotional standpoint but from a practical health stand point as ridiculous as that sounds. I want to have the ability to go out and fuck chicks worry free but I just can't over that anxiety that it will fuck with the rest of my life. Anyone else have similar phobias?

cocaine_face · 2015-07-08T11:41:34+00:00

I'll probably get downvoted for this (and as far as I know, I don't have it myself, but it is certainly possible), but herpes is not a big deal. At all. In fact, you almost certainly had HSV-1 (which can be, but isn't as often genital - it usually infects the lips) before contractng HSV-2. You say 50%, but I've seen estimates of 80%-90% as well. Hell, if the rash on your junk is herpes, it easily could be HSV-1 from a girl that gave you a blowjob.

The vast majority of people are asymptomatic, if you have sex with more than about 5 partners you should pretty much assume you have a good chance of having it/have been exposed to it, and STD tests do not catch it unless you pay for a very expensive one.

For people who are symptomatic, typically the symptoms go away between 2-4 breakouts (which is not the horrorific rash people typically mention, but maybe a slightly itchy, tiny bump), and just don't come back unless you have a weak immune system (very elderly, or let's say you went for weeks with low sleep and tons of stress on a major project).

As far as I can tell, accusations of herpes are mostly ways for girls to keep other girls in line. The only reason it is, "scary" is because it's "uncurable" - because tiny viral reservoirs can exist in your body - your "viral load", to use an HIV term can be basically completely nil, with no chance of infection for anyone, and you've still got "herpes".

You probably also have HPV (and if you don't, you likely will).

Getting minor STDs is a risk you take when you decide to play this game. This is really not a big deal.

This will probably be hated advice but here it is:

Neither men nor women get tested for herpes. It isn't a big deal (compared to the freakout), most people have some form of it (HSV-1 can be genital, and HSV-2 can be on your lips, they're just more common in the other location), doctor's know that, hence the lack of testing for it (and the fact that it's expensive). Everyone acts like it is a big deal, but nobody truly cares. Getting yourself tested and disclosing your, "status", like an HIV patient basically plays you like a fool. You'll just end up scaring girls away from you who will then hook up with guys that have probably a near-equal chance of having herpes (which is going to be the men who have the most partners and who are the most sexually active - i.e. Chad Thundercock).

So if you want to reduce your sex life to shit, while not reducing the risk for anyone around you, go ahead and tell every girl you'd otherwise fuck, have them run away to fuck Herpes Chad, and only fuck girls on herpes websites (think about the caliber of a girl that is defined by her herpes - that's her thing. A normal girl would hamster it away or far more likely, just not get tested).

Otherwise, this is not a big deal. Don't fuck a girl while you're symptomatic (which I can't imagine would be pleasant anyway), and wait until your symptoms go latent, at which point your chance of infecting someone (with what is probably an asymptomatic virus) is virtually zero. They should mostly be cleared up within a year or two at the absolute worst.

Jrose152 · 2015-07-08T06:15:09+00:00

If herpes is so common then why are you acting like you are done for? Herpes isn't the end of your life, it's just the rest of your life. Don't have sex during and outbreak. Continue life as normal.

oldredder · 2015-07-08T02:58:26+00:00

Thems the risks.

TRP doesn't have good advice on CAUTION and avoidance of danger. only to seek pussy at any cost, while painting it as a side-effect of self-improvement.

That's the price you pay.

I'm extra cautious with who I hook up with and prefer to get lots of sex with the same clean woman instead of lots of strange women who most of which will have herpes or something else curable but still a pain in the ass.

I_is_the_best · 2015-07-08T05:15:11+00:00

Ok so you're a dumb beta and you get married and your wifey is a hoe and fucks other guys. End result ? You still get herps even without spinning.

garbagejooce · 2015-07-08T13:32:07+00:00

For those trying to give condescending advice like "TRP isn't just about just fucking girls. You should've known better," go fuck yourself. This is a hard thing to post about, and him doing so will hopefully help other guys be more wary when fucking sluts. Appreciate his honest, it took balls. And get off your high horse.

DarkyDarkskin · 2015-07-08T15:15:18+00:00

19 women is not a lot? JESUS man! I've only been with 4 and I thought I was doing ok. It is obvious this sub has turned into a cesspit of degeneracy rather than a place for purely sexual strategy aimed at improving your life. Christ.

herps · 2015-07-08T11:10:59+00:00

I feel like my username is finally relevant, but I have nothing relevant to say...

akjoltoy · 2015-07-08T10:15:12+00:00

Herpes is not a big deal. I got it as a kid from being kissed by my grandma.

It's rampant enough and the symptoms harmless enough that the energy it takes to avoid it is not worth it.

I get a cold sore on my lip like once a year or two. Half the time I notice it put some zovirax on it and it goes away. Otherwise it's like a bad pimple that lasts a few days. Omfg, kill me. What a big deal.

The stigma around STD's is mostly bullshit. If you want to pretend you're in a higher class than humans with them.. then have fun fretting about it. In general, it's a tiny nuisance and more than worth being able to relax about having sex with people.

HIV is another matter of course.. but is mostly irrelevant as it's generally communicated through homosexual sex.

I had one other STD which was genital warts. I got some, had some frozen off, and then they stopped coming. Since (6 or 7 years), I haven't had anything. These things tend to go away most of the time.

One_friendship_plz · 2015-07-08T06:39:59+00:00

I got herpes from girl #1. FML

RedditArgument · 2015-07-08T07:41:02+00:00

Protip: For the love of God avoid Arginine when you have an outbreak. Instead target foods with high lysine content. Trust me you'll thank me.

I was taking an arginine supplement and (I eventually found out) was eating a rather high arginine diet. I had an outbreak (hsv1) and it was the worst. Lasted for weeks before i figured out the damn arginine was the problem.

Arginine is basically herpes candy, Lysine on the other hand supposedly helps kill them off. (Have not yet tested Lysine but will next time, my outbreaks are very few and far between.)

IllimitableMan · 2015-07-08T18:42:17+00:00

So what's the solution to this problem, fuck hookers because they get STI checked?

MyReddit4 · 2015-07-08T06:23:22+00:00

You're over-reacting a bit.

More than 70% of people in the US have it. Most get seasonal cold sores on the lips one or two times and then it's gone. As time goes on, outbreaks become less frequent. Granted, an outbreak on the dick/vag is way worse than a cold sore.

When you're not having an outbreak, I wouldn't worry about it. I had a scare from a girl who I banged twice. She texted me that she had a coldsore on her mouth and she recently gave me head. I felt sick and worried - didn't get any form of outbreak and basically marinated my dick in coconut oil (vitamins & antifungal, bro science, I know...)

Anyway, the world will keep turning. Girls will slut it up. If it smells/looks funny, don't be afraid to have her take a shower or get out.

Rimeheart · 2015-07-08T03:44:53+00:00

Honestly in asian culture herpes is not a big deal, and it should not be. I think it is mostly westerners being silly. Think about it, it is just a skin condition of sores, when your immune system is weak. It does not kill you, or harm you in an real way. It is not HIV.

FangoFett · 2015-07-08T05:25:10+00:00

No worries bro, herpes is a variant form of Chicken Pox. The worst that could happen is break outs, and there are meds for that. HSV-2 is a bit more aggressive, but I think it's just the stigma that you got an STD. The truth is half the population has a form of it. You are almost required to get chicken pox when you are younger. Think of it as rite of passage, cause seriously, you can get HSV-1 from your great great aunt when she kissed you as a little baby. How silly is that?

AtillaTheTough · 2015-07-08T09:14:29+00:00

Can someone explain to me why in the year 2015 herpes and shit like that cannot be cured?

DarkAlpha69 · 2015-07-08T03:44:32+00:00

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guymanthing · 2015-07-08T05:59:52+00:00

We need a little course on caution and safety. I'm 17 and I don't want to risk having my future SMV smashed because of something like this. Sorry for your loss OP, but I respect you immensely for not just continuing to spin plates with the knowledge you are infected. Best if luck man.

-Real_Nword- · 2015-07-08T21:57:33+00:00

Im 19 and this whole thread makes me wanna stay a virgin, lol. Never thought herpes was this common..

Nagintaplease40 · 2015-07-08T16:38:12+00:00

Yep -- can confirm. Last chick I got with most likely gave me something. I pray it isn't the herp. (Note: I haven't slept with anyone since or will sleep with anyone until I'm tested -- I'm not a complete piece of shit)

Overkillengine · 2015-07-08T05:33:00+00:00

A lot of effort here is put into identifying "low effort required" women.

The same effort is not put into identifying the risks.

Caveat Emptor.

GoldPisseR · 2015-07-08T04:14:54+00:00

Spinning plates is dumb as shit imo. Why risk your well being just for fucking sluts? Rest assured if a woman is okay with short term hookups, you are one of the many she's done it or doing it with.

Get a hot clean woman and manage a ltr with her.

wimmyjales · 2015-07-08T03:24:46+00:00

They always told us in the military that herpes isnt easily transmitted unless there is an breakout and thus you must inspect vag in the light first. You didn't inspect, did you? Also, for most people breakouts aren't as frequent as you would think and there are good meds to nip them in the bud. So don't stress man.

datdude2014 · 2015-07-08T03:39:32+00:00

Doesn't matter had sex, consider them fuck trophies. Jk

That's fucked up man, but it even happens to married couples when either cheats for example. It's just the world we live in

geppetto123 · 2015-07-08T11:09:11+00:00

Consider L-Lysine pills, they are the antagonist (increasing one lowers the other) of L-Arginin which the virus uses as essential building block to replicate.* L-Lysine is a ammino acid, so there is practically no overdose which means you can lower L-Arginin to the very minimum.

This is also a way to lower the risk of prevention (like condoms) if you spin plates, but for this to be effective you need much higher dose (3-5x) than the nutrient recommandation on the bottle for "normal use" to make sure you start "L-Arginin" level when the virus hits your body is really low - In this context I am also highlyyy recommanding HPV immunization also for men!!!

*Same approach with using HIV medications (protease inhibitor) as prophylaxis, but this quite over the top if you are not surrounded by it.

davsyo · 2015-07-08T05:32:59+00:00

Condoms don't protect me? I'm very concerned about this.

Professor_Pussypenis · 2015-07-08T12:11:52+00:00

19 is a low partner count? What the fuck?

temerarious · 2015-07-08T06:20:56+00:00

Anyone here on their moral high ground, if you really don't want to be a hypocrite, go get tested for HSV-1 (spoiler alert: you probably have it). If you test positive, don't kiss anyone or share a drink without first warning them of the risks. If you're not willing to do that, shut the fuck up about HSV-2. HSV-1 is technically more dangerous (something about possible eye infections), but neither is a big deal medically. The social stigma is the worst part, so just avoid that by keeping it to yourself. Everyone else does anyway.

monkeythrowingpoop · 2015-07-08T11:01:39+00:00

I have a good friend who is a high demand dermatologist with a very unique specialty. People come from all over the world to see him. He specializes in treating people with STD's. He does a lot of reconstructive plastic surgery on genitalia. The reason is that STD's can often be very disfiguring.

He has shown me photo's of people with genital warts that look like cauliflower the size of a small fist in their vagina, or penises that look....well.....like some monster out of a horror show. Just take a few minutes and google around for pictures of genital warts and herpes.

He told me that at least 60% of the adult population has either some form of herpes and or genital warts.

Another thing he mentioned is the futility of using condoms to prevent herpes or genital warts.

He sees a LOT of people that don't have genital warts on their penises, but have it on their pubic area or other areas. What these people didn't realize was that the areas of their bodies that was rubbing skin together (think lower abdomen, thighs, etc.) were unprotected. They end up getting herpes or genital warts in these areas.

In the end, he said that if you have sex with more than 2 people (especially if those two people are or have been sexually active), you have almost certainly been exposed to an STD.

Be careful out there.

Riddick_ · 2015-07-08T04:17:00+00:00

Dude. Don't just jump to conclusions. Talk to your doc and see what he is saying and if you actually have anything. If in doubt do another test, with another doc / lab. Tell them specifically you want to be screened for HSV-1 and HSV-2. Most docs don't even care for it... Talk to your doc about getting a full STD test, you may have to pay a bit extra but it's worth it. Do it.

trowawayyada · 2015-07-08T05:23:49+00:00

Herps isn't a rash, they are blisters. How many blisters do you have, take a deep breath relax get tested! It could be eczema for all you know.

Ketaminewarrior · 2015-07-08T05:54:53+00:00

Wait till you get the results dude, I had a doctor tell me I had it and put me on antivirals. Second opinion from a specialist at a sexual health clinic said otherwise.

celiberation · 2015-07-08T07:19:25+00:00

Thank you for this warning post. Read more about herpes http://commonhealth.wbur.org/2011/04/latest-genital-herpes

Better safe(r) than sorry. Prevention is better than cure.

External12 · 2015-07-08T11:44:28+00:00

I know of a couple people infected, one is a rather close friend who confided in me. He gave an interesting outlook, because I thought people had this rash or whatever always or frequently. First, he stopped telling people he explained and never had a reoccurring outbreak and has not had an issue, I guess I am unsure of this part but I'm not in there shoes. He also said how people will make out with total strangers, but not second guess getting herpes, so why with sex? And also said it hasn't effected his life at all except the whatever months he felt like a outcast initially. So, I guess I just want to tell you it's okay, everyday life should be the same, and don't necessarily lower your own value. Obviously someone didn't know or didn't tell you, and that's not your fault. I just feel bad because my buddy told me how he was really depressed and I always like to mention those few things. Thanks for the personal story. 1 girl or multiple, it could be the first, the last, or none who give you something.

NeoreactionSafe · 2015-07-08T13:04:09+00:00

Well duh !!!

Yeah, of course if you have many partners you increase your chances of STD's.

Look at homosexual men. They have the highest rate of random sex and also the highest rates of STD's.

Remember the lessons of history:

Researchers concluded that syphilis was carried from the New World to Europe after Columbus' voyages. Many of the crew members who served on this voyage later joined the army of King Charles VIII in his invasion of Italy in 1495, resulting in the spreading of the disease across Europe and as many as five million deaths.[7] The findings suggested Europeans could have carried the nonvenereal tropical bacteria home, where the organisms may have mutated into a more deadly form in the different conditions and low immunity of the population of Europe.[18] Syphilis was a major killer in Europe during the Renaissance.[19] In his Serpentine Malady (Seville, 1539) Ruy Diaz de Isla estimated that over a million people were infected in Europe.[20]

So this may have amplified the trend of monogamy because people wanted to avoid the disease.

The wisest choice will always be monogamy with a woman of good breeding material then have ten kids and allow the randomness in gene transmission to create variety. No two kids are alike unless they are actual twins. (hard to do now with the State as our enemy)

HIV in Africa runs at 50% of the population in some areas. (South Africa)

psylord · 2015-07-08T13:23:09+00:00

What I'm worried about is another disease like AIDS popping up. That's how AIDS originally came into being - unexpectedly. People were having sex and spreading it, not knowing that it existed. All it takes is another major unknown bug to arise. The next one could spread via heterosexual sex.

RPB1 · 2015-07-08T13:38:25+00:00

The sort of women willing to be spun are seldom new to that sort of thing, thus increasing one's exposure to venereal infections.

A lot of guys who swallowed the pill weren't getting any (or at least not as often or with whom they wanted), and they went from one extreme to the other. It's the equivalent of a sexual chip on their shoulder where all pussy that can be fucked, must be fucked. Rampant promiscuity always carries great risk in many forms, and a lot of these boys are out to prove something to themselves by seducing as many women as possible.

You aren't going to fuck your way into manhood.

As a philosophy, TRP emphasizes sexual variety to break the chemical attachments to one woman. The point of that though is to build confidence and acclimate them to sex without submitting to infatuation. We call these practice girls. But I think the most salient aspect of RP dating strategy is to be more selective and leveraging your SMV to access the Five Star Course, not the Mickey D's dollar menu.

The further up the tree you go, the more branches you can access below. But if you can take an elevator to the top, why waste time climbing the branches and risk falling on the way up?

To the dudes that don't care: more power to you. Although you can never be 100% safe, I'm personally much more picky these days.

life036 · 2015-07-08T06:16:50+00:00

Now I have to break up with all my plates and start from scratch on herpes dating websites.

The white knightery is strong with this one.

STYLES_MANDISH · 2015-07-08T04:40:11+00:00

I have hsv-1. Got it from my current girlfriend. So it goes. Had my first outbreak during finals week this past semester. Went to the doctor, got a culture, and came back positive. They say blood tests aren't very accurate for either type of herpes and that the only surefire way to know is to swab a sore and test it. Both types are basically the same, but type 2 is just more aggressive. It's really not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Haven't had an outbreak since. They're rare. Relax and keep banging slags.

Edit: and yes, you can get both types on your genitals or on your face. Luckily, I have type 1 on my pork sword and its rare to get both types.

Edit 2: oh hail the high and mighty

Smokratez · 2015-07-08T12:00:49+00:00

That's why I either fuck virgins or get a health check before sticking it in.

temerarious · 2015-07-08T04:29:39+00:00

Don't tell anyone you have it and carry on with your life. Seriously.

Most people have HSV-1. Does anyone bother telling you that they have it (anyone who's gotten a cold sore knows they have it) before you kissed them or shared a drink? No, nor were they expected to even though it is also an incurable virus. Why is HSV-2 different? Simply because it is typically spread through sexual activity and shows up (usually) on your junk instead of your face. Personally, I'd rather have 2 because I can hide it during an outbreak.

HSV-1 would ruin your SMV just as much if before everytime you kissed someone you warned them you have it. That's why no one does. They don't give a shit if they pass it on. HSV-2 should be no different.

PencilNeckBrah · 2015-07-08T04:47:20+00:00

This is going to sound weird because of the stigma that surrounds herpes but it's not a big deal. If 1/6 people have it then does it really matter if you do? It causes no downgrade in quality of life at all and the flare ups happen rarely and are often not even noticeable.

I wouldn't give an honest fuck if I got herpes. The only STD i'd be pissed about getting is HIV because it's life changing and fatal.

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masturbates2Dragons · 2015-07-08T04:07:24+00:00

Stop meeting girls on Tinder. Problem solved.

argentinean · 2015-07-08T03:45:00+00:00

You still don't know if u got the herpes. Not very likely to get it from protected sex with a woman. Most likely balanitis caused by chlamydia. But there is always the risk of herpes -- yeah it sucks.

Please update once you get your results.

BlackHeart89 · 2015-07-08T05:37:57+00:00

Come back once it's confirmed you actually have it bro

makethemsayayy · 2015-07-08T05:53:06+00:00

Condom doesn't protect you?? D=

Oh my god. I just got great news on being clean despite sharing rigs with Hep C positive people. I don't wanna chance it...

They just found a cure for Hep C in the last two years. So hold on, it may be curable soon, especially with the rates so high and it affecting so many women, you'll know they'll get on that shit.

2015-07-08T06:25:22+00:00

I got a cold sore from either the gym, or my dad.

My dad is a slobby pig who most likely used my toothbrush or something whilst he had an outbreak

MentORPHEUS · 2015-07-08T15:47:48+00:00

A data point on how much nasty goes on in the world. I read on a Doctor's forum about a patient with HSV-2 around his colostomy hole. Not only that, Someone with herpes paid to hit that shit.

Will be extra kind to my long-term plates this week.

Karmatsocheff · 2015-07-08T16:01:43+00:00

Damnit. There's already herpes dating sites? I thought that was my million dollar idea. Back to the drawing board.

TypoKnig · 2015-07-08T16:45:19+00:00

You're livin the redpill dream. Congratulations!

RealRational · 2015-07-08T17:30:12+00:00

Question: Did you give all 19 head? How many did you give head?

The-Ban-Hammer · 2015-07-08T17:30:29+00:00

Did you get an IgG test? If not, do so for both HSV-1 and HSV-2. You have to wait for at least 4 months post-exposure before these are accurate. Also, keep in mind that, since these are blood tests, they cannot tell you where you have HSV-1 or HSV-2 (even though HSV-1 is typically a cold sore, getting a blowjob from a girl with HSV-1 gives you genital HSV-1).
If you did an IgM test, these are known to have false positives and there are no HSV-1/HSV-2 differentiators, so it's a pretty useless and shitty test.
Did you have symptoms and have them swabbed?

I ask these because, even if you asked for a full STD panel, it doesn't guarantee they did the IgG testing, which is imperative. Doctors still don't test appropriately.

thenarrrowpath · 2015-07-08T17:45:35+00:00

Duh. Just because you're RP aware doesn't mean you're immune to STDs. These are judgment calls you need to make in the moment. To Fuck or not to Fuck, that is the question.

MikePatton-yakyakyak · 2015-07-08T20:34:39+00:00

"Spin plates" doesn't mean be a manwhore and fuck every sloot in sight. It means, if you're not in a committed relationship, have options so it's easy to walk away immediately if things go south. It's basically the antidote for oneitis.

Surf_Or_Die · 2015-07-08T22:28:14+00:00

Yep. I got chlamydia off a bitch who "always uses condoms". She was supposed to be an LTR, fuck that.

iamaguythrowaway · 2015-07-09T03:24:19+00:00

Does somebody know about STD's that are asymptomatic? How to protect yourself against it? Do only blood tests reveal those diseases?

druganswer · 2015-07-09T03:54:11+00:00

Honestly just hope you're one of those people with no outbreaks... the viral shedding really IS pretty much a longshot on people who don't get outbreaks... more likely than not this girl gets outbreaks and just didn't think she had one at the time... the virus sheds in the days before an outbreak and that's probably when you got it... during the prodrome...

anyway, best of luck herpes has a shitty stigma but if you don't ever get outbreaks it shouldn't change your life that much... if you get them rarely you have to morally decide if you're still going to have risky sex... I think male --> female transmission is a LOT more rare since the shedding is usually only at the site of the blisters and that's usually on the penis and that's pretty covered by condoms.. but nobody wants to be the guy who gave somone the herp

REDPILLRECKONING · 2015-07-09T04:52:29+00:00

Hi there, redpill physician here. It's borderline impossible to avoid herpes if you enter the dating game. The rates are higher and climbing than what you listed here. It's just that not everyone has massive outbreaks like others. We are are all special snowflakes.

DreamBoatGuy25 · 2015-07-09T08:40:41+00:00

This is why I tend toward inexperienced chicks. I still go bar hoping with my buddies on occasion but I'm not even sure I could manage to get it up for some of the burnt out 1000 cock staring skanks I see at these places.

DrWD · 2015-07-09T08:42:18+00:00

Another aspect of HSV that most people don't realize is that with the increase in oral sex, there is also an increase in prevalence of HSV-1 on the genital region and HSV-2 on the trigeminal/facial region. As someone who has worked in a clinical scenario where HSV1/2 titers were tested regularly on married and unmarried men and woman of all ages, I can tell you that most people (<80%) have been exposed to HSV-1 which shows positive on their bloodwork, and about half of those have titers suggesting active recent infection. Like you said, some people have an immune system that completely prevents viral shedding and sores, other people have frequent outbreaks. Many things influence outbreaks such as stress, diet, etc, but that's for another post. Most people are shocked when you tell them they have HSV-2. Of the positive HSV-2 results I have seen, most were woman. The only active HSV-2 infections I have seen were in woman. I know this is only anecdotal evidence but worth noting.

I'll leave you with some data from the CDC.

Herpes Simplex Virus

Case reporting data for genital herpes simplex virus (HSV) are not available. Data on initial visits to physicians’ offices for this condition are available from NDTI (Figure 53, Table 45).

National trend data on the gender-specific seroprevalence of HSV-2 among those aged 14–49 years from NHANES were compared across survey years 1988–1994, 1999–2002, 2003–2006, and 2007–2010 (Figure 54). Overall, HSV-2 seroprevalence decreased between 1988–1994 and 2007–2010, from 21.2% to 15.5%.20 Among non-Hispanic white females, HSV-2 seroprevalence decreased from 19.5% (1988–1994) to 15.3% (2007–2010; P<0.001); HSV-2 seroprevalence remained stable among non-Hispanic black or African American (hereinafter referred to as black) females, from 52.5% (1988–1994) to 49.9% (2007–2010; P=0.1). These data, along with data from NHANES survey years 1976–1980,21 indicate that blacks had higher seroprevalence than whites for each survey period and age group.

Although HSV-2 seroprevalence is decreasing, most persons with HSV-2 have not received a diagnosis. The overall percentage of HSV-2 seropositive NHANES participants who reported never being told by a doctor or health care professional that they had genital herpes did not change significantly between 1988–1994 and 2007–2010, and remained high (90.7% and 87.4%, respectively). However, an overall increase in the number of visits for genital herpes over time, as suggested by NDTI data, may indicate increased recognition of infection.

http://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/stats.htm

user6580 · 2015-07-09T13:55:23+00:00

I was so scared I got an STD on my first one night stand. One of the advantages of an LTR is unprotected sex with no risk. (unless she cheats on you but cmon it shld be fucking ez to tell)

steelerfaninperu · 2015-07-08T11:49:47+00:00

It is not the quantity of the plates you spin, it's the quality. Spinning paper plates gets your dick red. Spinning fine china gets it wet.

I myself keep about three good quality plates spinning at a pretty low speed (meaning I hit them maybe every other month) and I'm content with that. I am sexually satisfied, which frees my mind to focus on other endeavors (like writing books).

thatherplife · 2015-07-08T13:46:14+00:00

Just to add my voice to the chorus, your "sexual market value" is NOT zero for anyone but yourself, if you choose to look at it that way. I've had HSV2 for six months, and yeah, at first, it's depressing, but since then I've slept with... Shit. I don't even know how many girls. Had my first three way a couple weeks ago. Both girls knew my situation. No one cares. Chill out. Talk to your doctor. Hopefully, you have a good one like I do. (His quote, "You don't have to tell girls you just want to randomly hook up with. If you don't have an outbreak, you don't have it.") Herpes is Big Pharma scare marketing. Don't give into it and let it ruin your life. It's literally nothing.

omgimbackagain · 2015-07-08T04:42:01+00:00

I know a dude who has the herp but carrys on banging as long as he has no outbreak.

Must be spreadig that shit like like wild fire. Didnt really think of it that way.

rokr1292 · 2015-07-08T06:25:16+00:00

New goal. Smv so high chicks want me to give them herpes.

I don't have herpes.

CustardOpple · 2015-07-08T08:12:00+00:00

Please don't down-vote me. This is a genuine question. Will I get herpes or any STD if I receive hand-job, fuck her tits or blowjob?

fake7272 · 2015-07-08T09:04:02+00:00

condoms do work for herpes as long as there isnt an outbreak and skin to skin contact. probably had unprotected oral and she had the herps on her lips. said it was a zit she popped but that bitch lied cuz she wanted ur cum and well now....you got the herpes. sorry bro

balancespec2 · 2015-07-08T10:27:19+00:00

I'm either a carrier then or extremely lucky. I've had about the same number of partners as you but 60 partners for blowjobs. Lately I've taken to eliciting about a history of cold sores but that's only been recently.

completelag · 2015-07-08T10:29:24+00:00

You would make millions if you came up with a herp test that you can perform in minutes.

magus678 · 2015-07-08T10:30:07+00:00

This is not meant to race bait, but the numbers for herpes are greatly inflated by the black community.

While the black community comes in at about 42 percent infection, white and Hispanics have more like 11 and 13 percent.

So if you happen to like black girls, or are seeing girls that like black men, you might have more cause for concern, at least strictly going by the numbers

esco_ · 2015-07-08T11:59:30+00:00

how long did it take for you to show symptoms? I was under the impression if you're exposed to the virus but dont show symptoms within 2 weeks youre in the clear

ChiefReap · 2015-07-08T12:45:03+00:00

I met this girl yesterday whose inner cheeks and gums look white. Like white foam in mouth. I'm scared lol

PlanB_pedofile · 2015-07-08T13:06:54+00:00

While you're on girl number 2, she's on guy number 6

While you're up to girl number 10, she's on guy number 20

While you're on girl number 14, she's on guy number 40

When you bang girl #6 a second time, she's probably had 20 more partners after you

Herpes is you're scraping the bottom of the pan after every other guy went to the buffet.

Enjoy the hookup culture

TekkomanKingz · 2015-07-08T14:17:54+00:00

The fact that he considered this even important enough to make a thread and it was up-voted so much indicates that the vast majority of Men on here are biologically ignorant and continue to blow both HPV and HSV way out of proportion.

It doesn't matter HOW MANY plates you spin you CANNOT ASK about this because most people are simply ASYMPTOMATIC, DO NOT KNOW and many blood tests are UNRELIABLE. IN ADDITION - when MILD flare ups can appear to be boils, fungal infections and other skin issues.

So tired of these idiots saying "Now my SMV is Zero". There are a million and one things aside from Valtrex you can take to suppress outbreaks. As long a you stay away from Arginine foods or counter-balance with Lysine rich foods and keep immunity high even your transmission likelihood is minimal.

I have fucked many more Women than you and never got it. Have you been using condoms EVERY SINGLE TIME? Remember, it's the entry point where you get the first outbreak. If you were wearing a condom it would be on your inner thigh or lower pelvis near the base of the penis. NOT directly on your penis.

Guys when are you going to learn about biology. PubMed and other sources are patiently waiting for you. In addition if anyone wants to know my regimen is always ALCOHOL wipe, then Tea Tree Oil Spray. Then when I get home I do the soap and water. Alcohol inactivates 99.999% of foreign invaders. Your immune system should be able to eliminate the rest.

Upvote_To_The_Left · 2015-07-08T05:42:36+00:00

herpes is a skin condition that pops up rarely for a week or two. that's it. it's not a big deal.

the chances of spreading herpes when you dont have an outbreak are low as fuck. if you feel you need to tell your partners you have it go for it. A girl told me she had it and I still fucked her. no big deal to me.

If i had it I wouldn't tell a chick though. Why? because she might not wana fuck me. plain and simple.

If you wana fuck lots of chicks you just have to accept you might catch the herp.

sonicblew · 2015-07-08T11:36:31+00:00

Why tell them you have it? Did the cunt who gave it to you give you any heads-up?

wylietomhanna · 2015-07-08T05:32:01+00:00

Herpes will not kill you. A lot of people have it. Just manage your infection. You'll be fine. It's not like you have tertiary syphilis. That shit will kill you.

jimjackjoe · 2015-07-08T04:48:29+00:00

Why do you need to tell anyone? The person who gave it to you didn't tell you, and she's bangin like crazy. I've probably banged her myself, and I don't have herpes (at least, I've seen no visible signs). Most people who have it don't even know they have it, if what you said is true, and these types have got to be the ones spreading it around the most. Does the knowledge that you have it make you any different from them? Relax man; this doesn't affect you at all.

smokingmonkey420 · 2015-07-08T03:24:15+00:00

What's to stop you from spinning plates and just keeping it a secret? You can't really tell unless you have an outbreak right?

PetrolFlavored · 2015-07-08T06:15:45+00:00

Herpes is not that big of a deal and also very hard to avoid these days.

Keep spinning.

FallenHighSchoolJock · 2015-07-08T08:45:46+00:00

I might be ignorant about this but isn't Herpes like a rash twice a year if that? If so, why do you need to stick to Herpes dating websites? Why can't you just not tell anyone about it? If you get into an LTR just say that you didn't know since many people are asymptomatic for years anyways. The major downside of this condition seems to come from the stigma more so than the actual symptoms. Guess what, TRP has a stigma too. If you told girls you were on this sub it would probably kill your chances of any kind of LTR yet keeping it a secret has probably improved your life.

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TheRealMouseRat · 2015-07-08T08:29:55+00:00

you've slept with 19 chicks, used condom every time, and you got herpes? wow, that's unlucky.

ChewbaccaFart · 2015-07-08T08:42:45+00:00

Serious question what can herpes do to you? I get that it causes outbreaks. But if you are one of the people that don't get outbreaks, is there any other negative side affect?

TheDialecticParadox · 2015-07-08T08:58:52+00:00

I get rashes on my dick occasionally. I know it's not an STD because I used to get them when I was a virgin.

Not exactly sure what it's from but I have a suspicion it's a reaction to using a certain type of soap/laundry detergent.

You should make absolutely sure before surrendering to the idea.

Ragnar___Danneskjold · 2015-07-08T11:09:36+00:00

How old are you?
You should have received your test results before this post

95wave · 2015-07-08T13:10:11+00:00

Always wrap it if you don't want it to melt off

FeedTheManBeast · 2015-07-08T14:22:33+00:00

To OP, (morality withheld) 50% of people have herpes because they do not know / do not care, and thus do not limit themselves to herpes only partners, the rash flares up occasionally, not persistently.

You do not need to limit your pool.

I get cold sores, when I'm on keto it never flares, otherwise I get them flare up once, sometimes twice a year.

tuxidomasx · 2015-07-09T00:13:15+00:00

ummm, dont get tested for herpes. if you have it, theres nothing you can do anyway and you'll probably just get stressed out. And all your life you might have to tell all your partners before you fuck them. All this even tho its very unlikely to affect your health in any meaningful way.

but if you get tested and you DONT have it, then nothing will have changed.

So just assume you dont have it and be happy since nothing good can come from knowing.

science will figure something out in the future anyway. probably in our lifetime.

test for the other shit tho

Fagbasher01 · 2015-07-09T15:01:21+00:00

I wouldnt stress about it. Everyone carries random viruses and bacteria. You have an immune system for a reason. Stds will be with the human species forever.

SJW_H8R · 2015-07-08T04:00:58+00:00

You can't blame anyone on your own lack of caution. I've slept with twice as many people as you and I'm clean of any STDs. Safe sex is important to practice and it's always good to remember that it should be quality over quantity when it comes to spinning plates.

Izzenw · 2015-07-08T12:43:03+00:00

I'm a doctor and I can assure you that OP is trolling.

I won't even waste my time explaining how stupid his post is.

MeatCurtainRod · 2015-07-08T15:28:21+00:00

You ever notice how the Red Pill response to everything is "spin plates?" It's good advice.

Like most new TRP readers, you took it out of context. Spending all your waking hours chasing as many women as you possibly can is a waste of your precious time, and filling a void with worse shit. In case you still don't get it, TRP'ers will say to better yourself above all. You heard the usual "go lift" - think about it as it has profound meaning. Instant gratification is never a good thing, even though it seems like a good idea at the time.

words of advice: Your life isn't over, this shit ain't done. TRP is all about bettering yourself, and herpes is no different a bump on the road than getting cocked blocked. And yes, condoms DO protect, but again, only if you use it correctly.

wiseprogressivethink · 2015-07-08T06:34:07+00:00

Pro-Tip: Don't tell anyone (irl)

gabrielshekelstein · 2015-07-08T05:16:22+00:00

Why don't you retards wear condoms?

Kenny_Twenty · 2015-07-08T14:26:38+00:00

Who cares? Keep spinning. It doesn't change your SMV. Don't tell anyone that you have it.

Business as usual.

prodigyx · 2015-07-08T15:07:11+00:00

I've had unprotected sex with 38 girls in the past 5 or so years. All between 18-24yrs old.

Never caught a thing.

You are sticking your dick in the wrong types of chicks. Don't bareback sluts, poor girls, or black or latinos.

There is no "lesson learned" here. You can spin plates your whole life without getting herpes. You can marry a virgin and she will cheat on you and give you herpes.

jquest23 · 2015-07-08T12:47:09+00:00

If you live you have a high chance of herpes. You seem to have been very cautious , but.. It doesn't matter, so common. Plus allot of studies say more people have it , but never do anything , or never know. At least you got tested. The two types one and two are similar and can be gotten from kissing, or just saliva. Maybe a sandwich you ate , maybe a million things. I wish it was gotten only by sex, but is not true.

Yeah Downvotes around ! So snarky ..

Title	Spun Plates. Got Herpes.
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