The only oneitis in your life should be lifting.

VanillaVeku · 2017-01-24T19:01:09+00:00

As a personal trainer, I can confirm that time is the biggest excuse for the general population. We here in TRP are not general population, we live by different rules, and therefore need to make whatever adjustments are necessary to be above average.

My day starts at 4:50am so I can get to school(across the city for me) just so I can workout before my classes start. Now I'm not saying that's EXACTLY what you need to start doing, the message behind this is that if something is important enough, you'll find a way to make the time for it. Doesn't matter if you're a single parent with a 60hr a week job, you'll STILL find some time somewhere to play with your kid. If it's important enough, you'll find a way through any excuse.

lolligagger3000 · 2017-01-24T19:42:04+00:00

The best part about lifting is that, if done correctly (not too often, but with effort) you won't pass two months without visible results.

Hell, society led me to believe that excercise was the most difficult thing on earth and after 3 months I already had no fat and muscles.

Kolbykilla · 2017-01-24T21:12:01+00:00

Here's a 4chan google drives dump on various bodybuilding/weightlifting ebooks, articles ect. that is very helpful and fascinating to read for newcomers and immediate lifters. https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B0Vyec-yHY6DYmNiMkg1dlZIelU

RedditAdminsSuck_88 · 2017-01-24T23:28:09+00:00

yea yea liftng etc etc

I dont lift because my hands get too calloused and my boyfriends complain when I jerk them off. And it cracks my nails.

Also, I am big boned not Fat.

So how do I bang this dime that I work with? Whats the magic secret?

NibblyPig · 2017-01-24T19:25:57+00:00

I don't really enjoy lifting all that much or look forward to it with anticipation. However I still do it.

I do it at home, with a squat rack, a bench, a bunch of weights and a pullup bar, because there's no way I can be arsed to drive or cycle somewhere in the cold to do something I don't enjoy.

So I minimised the displeasure as much as possible, reduced the time component, and found something to make it bearable (podcast).

Rather than posting you're not a real man and basically attacking people, it's probably more motivating to many to explain how you can make it bearable. When you say find a way, this is the way.

themachiavelliprince · 2017-01-24T22:07:40+00:00

Not to be completely and utterly morbid or pathetic but nothing has ever made me want to live more than lifting. The best advice I got from this sub was forget the programme on day 1, week 1, month 1, just go, just start, and take it day by day, before you know it you're deadlifting with perfect form and women start touching your shoulders and arms more. Exercise should not be in your routine, it should be your routine.

OneRedSock · 2017-01-24T23:07:21+00:00

Seems like a lot of the counter-points to this post seem to be missing some of the key points as to why this is such a staple of TRP. If you're lifting simply to score babes, you're missing the point.

If you think that lifting should somehow become easier, you're missing the point. You should always be pushing yourself to be stronger.

To quote Thomas Paine: "What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value." By "dearness", he means that for which we pay a high price.

Before I found TRP, after a heart-wrenching breakup, I began lifting. In the beginning, I lifted to release my anger, frustration, sadness, etc. I needed to channel all the shit into one outlet. I was lifting at this point because fuck her -- she'll see how jacked I get and regret her shitty decisions. I didn't have discipline, but I had motivation.

After that phased out, I began imagining how much I could absolutely obliterate the white knight who swooped in to "save her" -- previously a mutual friend. They began fucking within a week of our breakup. My lifting was still fueled by emotion that stemmed from her. My reason for lifting was still defined by her bullshit. I still didn't have discipline, but I had motivation.

Finally, I realized that I was no longer lifting out of anger, frustration, or for the need to prove how wrong she was for leaving me. I now lift for myself. I'm not in the gym lifting because I want to score hot babes -- that's tangential to my goals. No, I'm in the gym 5 days a week because I like the challenge; I enjoy the discipline; I enjoy making goals and overcoming them. I like to know that I can overcome pain consistently. Now I have discipline, and new motivation.

Upon this realization is around the time I began reading TRP.

If you're lifting simply because you want to fuck a chick, you are still completely missing the biggest lessons from lifting. If all you do to improve yourself is to score, then you're not actually improving yourself for the sake of being a better man. If you're compromising your time in the gym for time practicing game, then what else will you compromise for women as an excuse for "practicing game".

Stop defining your success by women's standards, and start defining your success by your own metrics.

LymanRP · 2017-01-24T19:09:08+00:00

When in doubt, lift, and be smart about it.

My favorite is when they bookend their question saying "Please don't give me the advice to lift, I have heard it too many times, I want actual advice"

You just can't help some people. Lifting is the foundation. No lifting, no testosterone, no confidence. No self improvement. Lifting is the base upon which you build the pyramid.

People also do not realize that lifting heavy is an important component of any fat loss regimen and cutting. Why? To lose weight, you must run a calorie deficit... no other way about it. If you run a calorie deficit, don't lift and only focus on cardio, then your body is going to inevitably lose muscle as well as fat. If you lift heavy while running a calorie deficit, that sends the message to your body that you need that muscle, and thus your body preserves it. You're not going to gain much muscle while doing this--the focus is to burn fat while preserving existing muscle.

metallica11 · 2017-01-24T21:46:35+00:00

As someone who has lifted for 6-7 years EXTREMELY consistently, this article resonates very well.

What you start to notice, after being this consistent, is that NOT working out because a non-option, because it actually induces stress/anxiety that is more stressful than working out itself. any loss of willpower fromm of laziness, late nights, lack of sleep is overcome by anxiety/stress from missing your workout.

Basically, OCD. but I don't a give a chit. It has allowed me to almost fool proof my habit. Sick? I still do stretches/light lifting. Broken leg? workout your upper body so that it is stronger in some way than if you had a whole body workout. the net gain must be more than zero in the end, despite shortcomings.

I have pretty bad muscular genetics, along with fast metabolism. was 140 at 5'9". Started out with the bar on the bench. Started out chest pressing 25 lb dumbbells. a year later it was only 55. year later 65, then 70, 80, 90, 95, 100, 105. took me 6-7 years of painfully PAINFUL slow progress. you would never guess that once barely benched the bar and now can do 105 pound dumbbesll for 10-12 reps on the flat bench, down to my chest, in a slow motion.

[deleted] · 2017-01-24T19:20:36+00:00

I like this a lot. I just had something removed from my forearm and couldn't lift for 2 weeks because of stitches. First day back deadlifted an hour after getting stitches out. A little less weight but damn it felt good. One week later I'm basically completely healed and my lifts are almost to where they were. Good post. Lifting is my oneitis.

Lets_Do_ButtStuff · 2017-01-24T23:17:47+00:00

For those starting to lift or those who have been for a while.

DO NOT SACRIFICE FORM FOR MORE WEIGHT.

There's no shame in lifting less weight to insure you maintain correct form throughout the entire set/sets.

iceblasta14 · 2017-01-24T23:51:33+00:00

Unpopular opinion, but FITNESS should be your oneitis. I say fitness instead of lifting because TheRedPill isn't about slaying as much pussy as you possibly can, it's about having the confidence to do what you want, when you want, how you want. As long as you are doing some kind of workout to better yourself (whether it be lifting, running, bodyweight, material arts, etc) and you stick to that regime, you'll be able to accomplish what you want out of life.

I do agree with some points in this thread about having the discipline to get up and do some kind of regime everyday, but it doesn't have to be lifting. As long as you are pushing to better yourself, do what you please.

Purecorrupt · 2017-01-24T19:56:39+00:00

If you really are hurt though don't lift if it is likely you can re-injure yourself. Hurt my back snowboarding and tried to deadlift before fully recovering. Didn't work out so well.

Now I'm stuck driving home during rush hour instead of at the gym for a few more days. Fuckkkk

354999556 · 2017-01-25T02:33:22+00:00

There will always be a reason not to go to the gym. Something hurts a bit, you're a little tired, your stomach feels funny, you're a bit late.

JustDoIt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuPLxQD4akQ

GunsGermsAndSteel · 2017-01-24T22:00:27+00:00

Can't afford it/no transportation? Shut up and do push-ups, pull-ups, planks, sit-ups, chair dips, etc in your home.

OrpheusV · 2017-01-24T19:55:44+00:00

Protip for those with young kids: Look into your local YMCA (now rebranded The Y) as an option for lifting. Most have a childcare program that can supervise your kid while you lift.

There is definitely very few good excuses for not lifting. Obviously if your doctor orders you not to for X weeks, don't fucking lift for X weeks, but otherwise, most excuses are just bad.

dainethemain · 2017-01-24T22:40:42+00:00

I legitimately had a dream the other night about being in the gym and lifting weights. The oneitis is real

HEADPOCKET · 2017-01-25T00:27:41+00:00

I have no problem with lifting but there should be more info in this sub about building careers and financial empires.

swedishchef123 · 2017-01-24T19:49:41+00:00

Brand New redpiller...Genuine question in response to the "Are you lifting" question.

Does it HAVE to be weights/specific routine/program to fulfill this requirement?

I am just starting off after YEARS of ZERO gym time. My brother suffered a SERIOUS back injury lifting and that put him out of commission for almost a year of bedrest so I am TERRIFIED of lifting.

However, I am doing bodyweight fitness (30 day fitness app) and on days where I don't have a routine per the app, I am adding cardio.

Is the situation that I need to be LIFTING or that I need to be working out? I feel I am working hard every day, but I am not "lifting" in the traditional sense of dumbbells and iron.

Is the relationship to "Iron" dependent on actual "weights" or just working out?

everquestnerd · 2017-01-24T23:43:59+00:00

Everyone's just lazy because lifting is hard work. No one wants to do hard work in their spare time. Good write ul

Jim_E_Hat · 2017-01-25T00:02:08+00:00

I would suggest that self improvement be your "oneitis". To include lifting, eating right, reading motivational or instructional material, and meditation. But yeah, lifting and it's related disciplines, running, making good food, and maintaining a positive attitude have helped me a lot. I feel better, and stay busy. That and realizing the way women manipulate men (and get a pass for it), has made me much less interested in them. If the opportunity presents, I go for it, other wise, meh.

jumblepuzz · 2017-01-25T17:16:42+00:00

It doesn't have to be lifting.

I love the barbell. My best lifts are a 445 Squat, 335 Bench, 515 Deadlift, 240 Snatch, and a 305 Clean & Jerk.

It's very easy for me to show up because I like it. The hardest part is picking the right weights, holding myself back, and training smart.

Every human should have some physical pursuit that they love. Lifting, Mountain Biking, Break-dancing, Rugby, whatever. Just as long as you're doing it for yourself. If it takes huge reserves of discipline, then you probably picked the wrong thing. I'd have a much harder time training for a marathon than I would lifting weights because I find that shit to be fucking boring.

But if you don't do anything physical then you're missing out on a huge chunk of being alive.

general_derez · 2017-01-24T19:25:38+00:00

What is your opinion of substituting with martial arts? I am in professional school so of course time is limited, but I made some sacrifices and started training BJJ 5 hours a week to great benefit.

yomo86 · 2017-01-24T20:31:27+00:00

Maybe I get the stick for going against the grain here but I think as importent as lifting or any physical activity is there is no holy grail to be found in the act of lifting itself. Do it, be done with it, if you like it the better.

JoRocKStaR · 2017-01-24T21:48:14+00:00

If you don't wanna lift....get into BJJ. Seriously, get fit and learn how to defend yourself. Seriously, the confidence of knowing you can just snap some dudes neck if he gets out of hand is priceless.

atredditer · 2017-01-24T22:05:20+00:00

This is good! I also go by the idea of Lifting is a microcosm of life. If you push yourself everyday in the gym you will fail everyday, but the next day you get back after it or even the next set. That is life in a nutshell.

ThxBungie · 2017-01-24T22:27:24+00:00

Because I have been lifting long enough to where I am constantly making progress, going hard, seeing results. And a hiatus from that would undo all the hard work I have done in the gym and slow my progress.

I respect your passion, really I do, but if you have really been lifting for as long as you claim then the few weeks required to heal from this type of injury would not undo ALL of your progress. It would hardly undo any of it.

ReformedMyself · 2017-01-24T22:42:10+00:00

I used to play videogames 3-4 hours a day. I went cold turkey and stopped playing completely and I replaced my obsession for games with lifting. It's been only 3 months since I started but I practiced every other day without ever missing a session and I'm seeing results. I was really skinny and I still am but IDGAF, I make progresses every week and I feel better. I feel good. I do it for myself. I must say that the confidence and T boost lifting gave me, coupled with martial arts, really had a huge positive impact on me. Listen to OP newbie comrades, everything he says it's true.

FractalFactorial · 2017-01-25T03:06:40+00:00

I don't know how long you've been lifting, but I think there are three phases:

1. Not going or not caring if you miss a work out because you aren't disciplined.

2. Solid routine, automatically off kilter when you miss a day or shit goes wrong in your work out

3. Used to your routine so much that missing out in an off week or day in a month is negligible.

Once you're used to it there isn't a frantic necessity to never miss any work out because of fear of losing discipline. Forcing yourself to work out when you have a fucked up hand, muscle, neck strain or anything like that is a GREAT way to get injured and be permanently fucked.

Definitely force yourself when your sick or other shit until you build discipline over months or a year or something. But past that do NOT risk your actual health for working out. Most the time you'll be fine, but habitually ignoring your body out of some need to demonstrate strength is just not going to end well usually.

Lastly I read this title as "the only oneitis in your life should be a lifter" and was kind of disappointed not to see any Power lifting chicks. Those women are fucking FINE man. That's good enough motive to go to the gym alone.

Futdashukup · 2017-01-25T06:18:08+00:00

You'll never convince someone to lift if they are a passive aggressive weakling.

cashmoney_x · 2017-01-25T16:07:49+00:00

Thanks, hadn't heard about the benefits of lifting heavy shit before this post.

ArkAngelEV · 2017-01-25T18:43:08+00:00

Haha never gets old The first 99 responses out of 100 to the question " what should i do to be more attractive " is LIFT YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

ChristopherBurr · 2017-01-24T21:11:23+00:00

lifting is OK, but there are other types of exercises. Swimming, boxing, MMA, martial arts - it doesn't have to be lifting. I work in Manhattan; getting too bulky makes you seem like a Jersey Shore guy. I'm not sure how it translates to the rest of the country.

SauternesMeOn · 2017-01-24T19:11:36+00:00

Eh, you don't need to fret over missing a few days in the gym.

I know plenty of gym rats who still have shitty game because they're uninteresting.

Lifting and health should be a priority focus, but if no girl wants to see you naked because you're dull AF, then what's the point?

I do a total body workout twice a week and play casual pickup bball and soccer. I'm by no means jacked and I have 3 plates, 2 of which are models (like repped by Major Models in NYC) and 100+ N-count.

Jacked dude with average personality loses to average dude with great personality most of the time (unless we're talking about UFC ring girls, strippers, etc. - those chicks are all yours).

I don't want to fully refute your post, just want to point out that social skills and social proof are probably just as, if not more, important as lifting.

mcf3389 · 2017-01-24T23:24:23+00:00

Dude, You are by far to obsessed with lifting. Other sports like Bodyweight training, gymnastics and martial arts also develop a great physique and even cool skills and a good use of the body. Lifting is great for some people, but all the other sports I mentioned are as effective And suit better to other people.

Please stop telling people they need to lift - there is no rational argument that this is much better than some other effective sports - neither to get women, not to get a better physique, nor for health.

SullyBeard · 2017-01-24T20:32:46+00:00

God, yes. I pulled my hamstring yesterday morning while doing RDL (freak accident, no idea why), and my first though was "fuck, this is gonna kill my progress." I was more pissed that I couldn't finish my workout and that I have to take a week off than anything else. The pain will go away, but gains are lost. I did need an off week here soon, so I will use this week as a stretching, light cardio week and examine my baseline nutrition better.

dw0r · 2017-01-24T20:41:06+00:00

What are you proposing if you do injure yourself? I took this week off from lifting because of an injury and I didn't see any other options. Gains are important but I'm not going to have a second course of spinal surgery.

Heeblahblah · 2017-01-24T21:18:50+00:00

Reading this got me hyped for my next lift, and I only started doing it three weeks ago. I feel like it gives you an alternative source of relaxation and focus that other activities just can't seem to scratch

RedSwami · 2017-01-24T22:23:00+00:00

I wish I could upvote this a hundred times.

Alawara · 2017-01-24T22:32:13+00:00

Great post, however I believe this mentality should be applied not only to lifting but also to your passions and hobbies.

billsmashole · 2017-01-24T22:41:42+00:00

Let me tell you all the truth, for I have trained on Mt. Oliftus- Chest day is the best day!

BlackJ1 · 2017-01-24T23:14:25+00:00

I've started lifting ever since I found TRP and I have loved it ever since. It's a real good hobby for me, somewhere to blow off steam and feel good.

However there have been times where I was just like FUCK this I'm not going to the gym kind of days for injuries, extreme weather, and lack of sleep. But other than that I always make time for the gym.

I remember there was a point in time where I literally walked 5 miles to get to the gym so I could workout. Make time for it.

Original_Dankster · 2017-01-24T23:15:32+00:00

Lingering injury.

One of my shoulders is currently fucked up. Ok. That just means more emphasis on squats, while I do LIGHT shoulder work (active recovery).

If your knee is fucked, time to get Jersey Shore swole in the pecs, arms and delts.

Most injuries, other than maybe a spinal fracture, offer no reason to stop lifting.

falcon10474 · 2017-01-24T23:23:37+00:00

Shit, this was suppose to be my rest day, now I feel the need to do a routine

pmid85 · 2017-01-25T00:50:16+00:00

I have stopped lifting (mainly due to traveling) and do believe that lifting/ or heavy exercise inherently attracts women. Testosterone & other endorphines can be sensed by women (at least the healthy ones).

MFBull · 2017-01-25T01:14:03+00:00

I haven't read all the comments, so disregard this if it's already been said. I applaud you for going to the gym and fighting through the pain. But with a injury like you've described, make sure that mother fucker is wrapped up very well. The gym is one of the easiest places to pick up bacteria. If you're only wrapping your wound with breathable fabric, you may be subjecting yourself to some nasty viruses and bacteria.

MyDickFellOff · 2017-01-25T02:54:23+00:00

Thank you for your post.

It made me decide to start lifting agian, after an injury that has affected and tortured my leg for almost two years. Your words have reached the right ears.

I have learned to live with the pain, at least when I'll start lifting agian it will be pain of my own choice.

I need to stop excusing myself and figure out a way to do it.

FlexGunship · 2017-01-25T02:58:36+00:00

I had all of my wisdom teeth out a week ago (at 31). It's the only thing that's stopped my lifting. Back to the gym in 4 more days.

Tiborik · 2017-01-25T03:45:58+00:00

Lifting doesn't have to cost anything. I didn't have an extra $40 a month to commit, so I found some landscaping stones ranging from 10-30 pounds, a few cinder blocks, a couple 5 gallon buckets, two 40lb sandbags, a cast iron bar with flanges on the ends. I also had a tree branch to pull up from. The only thing I paid is $4 for the sand bags.

GeorgeBushIV · 2017-01-25T04:22:54+00:00

100% agree. feels like shit when i miss a day or two.

have to say it feels great, almost always being the most fit male in the room. this happens 9/10.

Andgelyo · 2017-01-25T04:23:17+00:00

The true crime I see is seeing people pay a shit ton of money for a committed membership at a fancy gym, when they could go to a free gym (i.e. university gym) or pay less money and get the same god damn results. Most school gyms have everything you need. I used my school gym throughout undergrad and grad school, got pretty lean and got checked out a lot, and got better results than my classmates who paid money to go to a "better gym". Currently going to planet fitness and paying 10 dollars a month. Discipline and the bare minimum is all you need to better yourself. Also, the people I know who pay more don't even go consistently.

Dath14 · 2017-01-25T04:57:49+00:00

I did a number on my back doing deadlifts 5 months back (got greedy and upped my weight too fast), I can barely bend over without feeling like I am 30 years older than I am. I have been doing some light exercise at home with some free weights I have, but doing say 20 pull ups in sets of 5 will knock me on my ass for a few days. Any advice outside of slowly building my lower back up again with light exercise and stretching?

meh613 · 2017-01-25T05:24:05+00:00

If you can't afford it - Find a cheap gym. Shit, the gym I go to is $40 a month. If you can't afford $40 a month for a gym membership you have deeper issues. Stop using money as an excuse to not lift - It doesn't fly. Think back to when you had oneitis. Would $40 deter you from going out with her? Nope.

I set aside the second bedroom and made a gym out of it in my old place. I bought weights in 20kg increments from 20 to 80kilos and bars, and I lift 20 reps as soon as I wake up -- 10 with 20 kilos followed by 10 with 40, then when I get home from work, I do another 20 -- 5 with 20, 5 with 40, 5 with 60, and 5 with 80. I don't see why I'd need to work out in the gym. Any thoughts?

Texas_Sir · 2017-01-25T05:47:45+00:00

Torn bicep tendon in my shoulder. Used it as an excuse a few years ago. Now I Lift. I guess all the other muscles in the shoulder built up and covering the weak link. No more talk of surgery.

I was hurt but lazy. No more.

One hour is about 4% of the day. No excuse not to give your body 4%. That ain't shit.

PissedPajamas · 2017-01-25T05:56:06+00:00

Bruh fix your fingers please. A week off from lifting is good sometimes, ever heard of strategic deconditioning? I've left the gym for a week and come back stronger and bigger cause I gave my body the time, sleep and calories it needed to repair. Just don't be an idiot and skip the gym cause it's raining or you're watching the game or w/e

Dtrain16 · 2017-01-25T05:58:47+00:00

I just came from r all and I can't tell if this is satire or not. Not everyone likes lifting.

FutureMuscleDoctor · 2017-01-25T06:03:43+00:00

Amen to this doctrine. Become strong as fuck and it will make you rock solid. Women will love it.

06bnw · 2017-01-25T13:49:26+00:00

While lifting is important I disagree with the idea that lifting is the be-all end-all most important part of Red Pill philosophy. You can swole as all hell and heaven and still be awkward, lonely, unsuccessful, and without confidence. It's important for sure, but there are many other steps to becoming a true man and many other problems and challenges we've gotta face in life, and lifting in and of itself won't fix even a small percentage of them. It's the supplement, the aid, but not the cure.

EricDaGreat · 2017-01-25T06:12:37+00:00

I'm in my 40s and lifting is THE big constant in my life. Lifting gives me far more than I give, in terms of personal confidence, what my woman thinks about me, and how the world treats me. Hell, looking at my peers in the 40-50 age range, it's obvious I'd be a much different person without weight lifting (squats, deadlifts, bench, etc.).

yummyluckycharms · 2017-01-25T06:51:33+00:00

Just a note - dont forget the recovery time is longer in the 40's than when your're in your 20's. I find that I can no longer do the 5-6 split due to overtraining - and thats with giving 48 hours between similar muscle groups and alternating routines (push/pull legs vs individual muscle groups per day).

On my off days for rest - I just go swimming

carolinageorgee · 2017-01-25T07:11:31+00:00

Ive been lifting for a few years now, along with running, and mild bodyweight fitness. Mostly specific muscle group training like back day chest day arm day throughout the week. I squat, ohp, and deadlift about twice a week. Ive grown to dislike the feeling of deadlifting and weighted squats, It doesnt feel right. I assume that my form is not perfect, but ive done a lot of research and think I have the right idea more or less.

I have tried doing only full body workouts ohp squats, dl. But I dont like this regime, it doesnt feel right to my body. I am too sore after workouts.

I have noticed that although my body is a lot bigger and I have gained significant muscle mass, went from 180 -210. My body doesnt feel strong, my bones are always cracking really loud, knees, shouldersx wrists, forearms. I feel heavier and slower. After I do squats , dl and ohp , I cannot fully function for a day or two.

Also my body symetry is off, left side shows much more mass.

I am considering removing the compound workouts (dl, squats, ohp) and focusing more on lifting, resistance, cardio, and bodyweight. Any suggestions or ideas ?

PonScumEsq · 2017-01-25T13:43:50+00:00

There's a lot of really intelligent posts in this forum, but the meathead ones like this are disappointing. The "do you even lift, brah" mentality weighs down the practical advice, sound reasoning, and clever observations I have come to find here. I'm by no means saying don't work out or get in better shape, but come on, don't let it consume your life.

DyscoSwaggins · 2017-01-25T08:04:04+00:00

I agree with some aspects of this, I remember when I first started lifting weights six years ago when I was 20. I had lived more or less a sedentary life up to that point, and obviously I had wanted to change that. Lifting gave me a lot of positive things, confidence, determination, discipline, but it doesn't fix everything. Lifting really helps, even if you have an unfortunate body type (too skinny, too fat) lifting will give you confidence. My advice is start small, start with the basic lifts, squat, deadlift, and bench, with some accessories. The 5X5 program to beginwith is best, help you build a really solid base, go light, learn the lifts well. I think the secret to making lifting more interesting as you begin is train for strength. You don't need to become a hardcore powerlifter, but you can't imagine the benefits of becoming phsyically more powerful will do for you, but don't become obsessed. In fact, I wouldn't recommend training through injuries or illnesses at all. I did strongman competitions when I was an undergrad, I have a permanently fucked shoulder now, because I trained through injuries. I progressed really quickly, from a complete dork, to the biggest guy in the gym, lifting the biggest weight. It went to my head, and I started making stupid decisions. I still train in basic powerlifting with some body building, but I take it easy, I don't push it too far. Sometimes you can train through a little soreness, or a few minor abrasions, but don't become too obsessive when you start seeing results. That's how a lot of guys start ignoring red flags in their bodies, they get injured, they may need surgery, and then they won't have their outlet while they heal for however long. Be careful, be dedicated, but lift smart, know when to back off, fight another day.

mcf3389 · 2017-01-25T08:36:57+00:00

Yeah Bodyweight requires more skill to gain mass. But actually free weights are as complex - especially if you don't want to hurt yourself in the future.

Everyone should pick his favorite method. It's important to work out with a good method for ones aimes. That's it. Not: you gotta be lifting.

And here a look at the best of bodyweight training:street workout world championship

sonickid101 · 2017-01-25T08:42:26+00:00

Any advice for someone who finds lifting boring as fuck? Like I'll go to the gym and try and listen to a podcast or an audiobook while i'm working out. But its just a hassle earbuds fallout, headphones fall off it your working it hard. But I need extra stimulus besides just breathing counting and lifting in order to not be bored to tears while doing so.

matrixpush · 2017-01-25T09:57:27+00:00

Lifting is Freudian sublimation to red-pillers, similar to how excessive eating is to other groups.

P4_Brotagonist · 2017-01-25T12:04:59+00:00

Unlike what most people say, I found the beginning of lifting to be the shit part. I am a disabled guy from having a fucked up heart, and after getting weight lifting cleared(somewhat) I got in there with the most fucked up muscle imbalances imaginable. My hips and abs are so weak that I can't even squat without my spine turning into the St Louis Arch, and my heart gives me blackout eyes anytime I try to do standing core lifts.

Since that was happening, I am in the process of about 9 months of trying to fix my horrendous issues so I can actually lift. I used to lift as a teenager and loved it, so it makes you feel really shitty when you can't even hardly squat the bar without screaming pain and weird form. I want to be back into the grind of doing it day in and out and getting bigger. I would do gear to make it go quicker, but that would be bad on the heart plus make the imbalances worse.

prinzklaus · 2017-01-25T12:55:48+00:00

Totally agree with this post. Started back with lifting because I was ready to get back into the dating game after being out for the year once I get home from being overseas (had a girl in mind that I was at first trying to get ripped for). Now I'm training for a half-Ironman and combining that with lifting. Making huge improvements in just 2 months in everything (performance and looks). Working out now just for myself. Still plan on hitting that girl up when I'm back, but not sweating the results either way on that (more fish in the sea mentality now). The amount of stress release and just the workout high is enough to keep me going back day after day.

ChadThundercockII · 2017-01-25T13:13:33+00:00

"I have a lingering injury"

One should be very careful with this one. Working around an injury is very difficult and shouldn't be taken lightly. I have recebtly injured my wrists due to working 9 hours a day with a keyboard and then going to the gym to boxe and do tons of pull ups. Now I am depressed as fuck because I can't exercise as hard as I want to.

Eat-Your-Tail · 2017-01-25T13:19:28+00:00

if youre just starting out, the 5x5 program is the tits.

disgruntledearthling · 2017-01-25T13:21:18+00:00

Just do it! You young bucks will appreciate the effort you put in when you're approaching 60 yo

infinitepaths · 2017-01-25T13:31:16+00:00

Lifting has helped me definitely since I started a few months ago, especially free weight exercises like the deadlift - my posture is so much better. Building more muscle causes more body fat to be burnt and also planks are great for your abs. Like someone else said, lifting isn't the only exercise, things like boxing and mma/bjj are great for fitness. The discipline involved in going 'x' amount of times a week, is also good for your character, I only go 1-2 times a week, but my advice as a newbie to the gym is join now or at least buy some weights and a bench at home and lift a bit, it'll improve your strength and confidence.

saurabhshah · 2017-01-25T14:04:13+00:00

This is such bullshit. I have a regular body and I don't lift. But I'm very smart and intelligent which attracts women. To each its own. Bulging your body outta your clothes is not the answer. Just do what inspires you to dream for bigger things. That's the answer.

Dr_Villain · 2017-01-25T15:33:03+00:00

Nice post. Even if you have an injury you can still go to the gym and modify your routine based on what you can do, at least in some cases. If you hurt your knee do just light bench and seated exercises, or if you hurt your shoulder do mostly legs; you get the point.

Not having time is rarely a true issue. The are plenty of two day programs that will get you big and strong.

Bodyweight exercises and programs like convict conditioning work well if you truly cannot afford to go to a membership, and you can get reasonable progress with them.

FatBaldWhiteMan · 2017-01-25T15:45:53+00:00

All the excuses in the world are worth exactly nothing. No one cares that you have it extra hard. Some just have to put in more effort - so what, life is not fair.

DisciplineOverDrive · 2017-01-25T16:46:41+00:00

Lifting really is one of those things you need to just do to understand the benefits. There's a reason the advice is so oversaturated -- the benefits are enormous.

Hell, if I gained no muscle or aesthetics at all by lifting, I'd still do it for the positive endorphins and mental clarity. It's THAT important.

Aazaad · 2017-01-25T18:18:48+00:00

I used to have an attitude that if I missed gym even for a single day, something big is missing from my life. I used to workout for hours. It does work as having a fit body made me feel strong and more confident. I could approach any girl and did get appreciative looks and occasional flirting on the tube, in the mart and the gym from the women without even trying.

However one side effect of too much workout was that my hair started to thin out at the crown. At first I ignored it, then cut my hair really short. My dad is bald and my older brother's hair has also thinned out, though not as much as mine so it could also be due to genetic disposition. I researched this online and male pattern baldness (MPB) occurs due to buildup of DHT in the hair follicles. DHT is a type of potent testosterone which is produced because of a high level of testosterone in the body, a direct consequence of lifting.

I still go to the gym but not on a daily basis and not for hours like I used to before. DHT is in fact good for a man as it helps build muscle and keeps you functioning sexually at an older age, according to research. But it is bad for hair.

trollreign · 2017-01-25T18:29:37+00:00

Good message, and I also hate missing a workout in the gym, but some explanation on WHY you should treat lifting like a meeting with the so-called "love of your life" would have been useful.

Bloo4M · 2017-01-26T12:35:39+00:00

Not sure if I'm doing it right (doing 5x5 every other day. Do 5x5 program, run .5 miles, go down the aisle of machines. Do a leg machine, then an arm, then a leg etc..Then I hit the ab machines. Then I run a .5 mile again at a high sprint. Then go home. Then rest the next day) Not sure if this is a smart move (I'm 6'1 146lbs)

I can do it kinda easy and I drive an hour to work, hour back. And I work 7 days on 1st shift 5am to 1pm, then 2 days off, then 7 days on 2nd shift 10pm to 5am, then 2 days off, then 7 days on third shift 10pm to 5am.

Also about to join an BJJ gym on Fri.

Hope my "program" is a smart move. I guess I could do EVERY day but I thought rest was a good idea.

kasper138 · 2017-01-25T22:50:12+00:00

Just remember one thing. Will it help you get laid(more), yes. Will it change all the bullshit you have to deal with, no.

[deleted] · 2017-01-26T05:37:45+00:00

Framing this in a different light that helped me overcome my hesitation to lift:

Muscles are to women what huge perky tits, a narrow waist and a gorgeous ass are to us. When you start making gains, you will get stares, not glances, and these are super easy approach targets.

The testosterone increases are addictive AF. The increased confidence you're getting from your awesome bod plus this T surge destroys approach anxiety. You will think of great one liners upon seeing a target and you use them and the chick will love it.

And deep in your lizard brain you will feel the need to achieve your goal of drowning that pretty face of hers in your seed. And you do not question it. You are on autopilot. You naturally DNGAF.

You stop lamenting recent breakups with women and start opening new opportunities. And the opens become your focus and you constantly search for new birds down for fun and not much else.

Muscles obviously increase your overall presence in many social contexts. Bratty female coworkers who couldn't shut up if they're life depended on it, now become quiet and compliant when you start talking.

The male higher ups start respecting you in ways all your hard work hadn't yet achieved.

You get energized. Far more than any energy drink, stimulant, etc. You take risks and you get motivated.

If you truly believe yourself to be alpha, lifting is the quickest way to naturally tap into your nature that society has tried to pummel into submission. All for 30 mins at the gym. Easy.

digitalbitch · 2017-01-26T08:10:13+00:00

For me it's rock climbing. I lost 11 kg and look fucking shredder just by enjoying myself outside with friends and trying hard. I can't do lifting it's too boring.

Rugby11 · 2017-02-02T06:01:22+00:00

A little of this here https://soundcloud.com/user-580652804/the-mark-baxter-podcast-episode-6-rollo-tomassi-and-ed-latimore

[deleted] · 2017-02-18T05:50:33+00:00

I have started with body weight due to bulging a disc in my back, but damn lifting sure makes the day go by a lot faster and its enjoyable.

GraveApparition · 2017-02-19T00:13:38+00:00

Im 14 and gyms wont allow me in so how should i go about trying to lift, i already do body-weight excercises at home and at the park but i want more and good weights are really quite expensive for me so what should i do

GunsGermsAndSteel · 2017-01-24T22:10:37+00:00

At what point do you guys consider a person to be lifting "heavy"?

Post the lowest weights you'd consider "heavy" for the following lifts:

SQUAT

BENCH PRESS

DEADLIFT

TheSlicemanCometh · 2017-01-25T02:01:08+00:00

In your teens, your oneitis should be video games.

In your 20s, your oneitis should be lifting.

In your 30s, your oneitis should be making money.

In your 40s, your oneitis should be raising kids.

In your 50s and on, your oneitis should be relaxing and enjoying life.

I hate that so much of this sub thinks that the way you are in your 20s is the way you always are. How about a thread from someone over age 22.

carbon-17 · 2017-01-24T19:48:11+00:00

Well, can't you just lift yourself ? I do 200 pushups daily, 6 sets of 33 through the day. Does that count as the sacred "Lifting" you preach or do I still need to spend 40 box each month ?

wanderer779 · 2017-01-24T21:56:00+00:00

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xddm2653 · 2017-01-24T20:57:28+00:00

Does heavy cardio count? Wish I lifted more, but I tire myself out most days before I get the chance

Woooooooody · 2017-01-24T22:50:08+00:00

Why go to the gym if you don't like it? It won't last, and you won't get results. Men and women alike will be able to see through that facade.

Men only go to the gym to impress other men (although some journeys start off to impress women). When you're jacked you get much more attention from men rather than women.

Women will be attracted to your dedication and the fact that you devote a lot of time to a hobby. I say stick with something you enjoy, that will be most attractive. This doesn't give you permission to be a fat slob.. just eat like a normal person and you'll be fine.

-Frank · 2017-01-25T01:32:37+00:00

To be honest I have never heard of a gym 40$ a month. Don't think you can find anything this expensive in my city.

TheVagWhisperer · 2017-01-25T02:36:43+00:00

I spin plates starting at 2:00 AM and don't stop until I'm pissing blood.

PabloEscoba · 2017-01-25T05:36:45+00:00

No. There are other fitness activities besides lifting. Jeez

hunteeer · 2017-02-01T00:23:44+00:00

Fuck that. Some people just don't spark with lifting. If you see lifting as a choir, it's getting harder and much more disciplin draining the heavier you lift.

hitchinvertigo · 2017-01-24T23:23:18+00:00

Or like, just get money and fly off to anywhere in africa or asia manne. Better be a kingpin in africa or asia than a mere servant at home.

OldeEnglish85 · 2017-01-25T00:38:00+00:00

Also, if you're not already ripped, don't waste your time with these complex workouts. Just think legs, push, pull, 3 sets high weight low reps (e.g.: squat, bench, lat pulldown) and you're in and out in 40 minutes.

The only oneitis in your life should be lifting.

Summary: Prioritize lifting like you used to prioritize the oneitis you once orbitted.

Lifting should be your oneitis.

If you are not uncomfortable at the thought of missing a day of lifting, you are not doing it right. You're not training hard enough or lifting heavy enough.

Lifting is all about discipline and toughness. What is the point of lifting if you are not being honest with yourself?

Make lifting your oneitis. It should be something you make time for, prioritize, and would jump over many hurdles in order not to miss. It would take a serious injury or illness to keep you away.

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Title	The only oneitis in your life should be lifting.
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