I am glad that I discovered red pill and I regret that I didn't discover it earlier in my early 20s.

Early-Christmas-4742 · 2023-02-14T17:47:53+00:00

I honestly don't understand how anyone makes it to adulthiid believing women don't care about looks. Maybe this is why TRP never really aopealed to me.

ratsareniceanimals · 2023-02-14T20:55:18+00:00

One thing I've noticed from reading this sub a lot is that nearly all of the advice/observations are about the very beginning stages of a relationship - attraction, dating, sexual compatibility, etc.

As distasteful as I find Red Pill ideology, there are absolutely elements of it that will help many men improve their outcomes in the "early stage" parts of relationships, such as actually getting dates.

The thing is, there is a whole separate world of relationships past that initial stage. When it comes to building a life with someone, changing with them, balancing conflicting priorities, and self-actualization both individually and as a couple, red pill not only has no answers, it's not even trying to answer the question of how to be in a successful long-term relationship.

I hate to make a food analogy, but a Red Pill foodie is like someone who wants maximum pleasure from every meal, who wants access to the best delicacies the world has, and who revels in collecting Michelin Stars as status symbols. It's not about a sustainable, nutrition-oriented diet that optimizes long-term health and happiness.

palatine09 · 2023-02-14T11:17:36+00:00

Are you saying when you were overweight and depressed you had less interest from the opposite sex than when you changed your physical and mental state? Please can you get this published in a peer reviewed journal as this groundbreaking information needs to be out there. Well done.

thisaccountaintrea1 · 2023-02-14T09:07:22+00:00

First off, I'm glad you've been able to improve yourself and go on more dates. That's something to be proud of,

I will say, however, TRP takes certain things that are indisputably true (i.e. women are more attracted to men who are successful, fit, confident, and self assured than they are to men who aren't) and then parlays those truths into some incredibly toxic beliefs (i.e. every woman is a ruthless harpy waiting for her chance to leave you and steal everything you have the moment she thinks she can do better). Be careful not to fall into the toxic side of the ideology.

Novadina · 2023-02-14T08:25:03+00:00

Is it actually shallow to not want an obese partner? That is unhealthy and just shows a total incompatibility with me and my lifestyle, since I am not. I want someone I can do activities with, who I can handle on top of me in bed, and who won’t die too soon of heart disease. I don’t see why you couldn’t have just improved your health issues, ate better, worked out, and improved your looks, without all the weird TRP stuff. Losing weight and improving looks is what women have always done to get more attractive for dates, and obviously it would work for men for the same reasons. There is no need for some special ideology - humans are attracted to attractive people.

nemma88 · 2023-02-14T09:51:59+00:00

I was way over my ideal BMI and was probably a 5/10 all things considered.

Well over BMI? Probably not average but I guess it depends on location & age.

So, I totally focused on what you guys call "lookmaxxing" and nothing else.

Is there a reason RP was required to try losing weight? Are you attracted to women well over BMI?

wtknight · 2023-02-14T13:54:48+00:00

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old_new_age · 2023-02-14T18:07:15+00:00

This post is kind of a testament to the sad reality that there is literally nobody trying to give young men the very basic advice of "work out, build your confidence, and improve your physique" besides misogyny-adjacent (or directly misogynistic) red pill spaces. No wonder red pill would blow up, then, where else are directionless young men and boys going to turn when nobody else is talking to them?

platinirisms · 2023-02-14T11:34:36+00:00

My problem with your post is, nothing you’re talking about has anything to do with the Redpill.

Where’s the shit tests, where’s the negging, where’s the IOI’s or escalation tactics? TRP is heavily focused about game, and how with good game you can pull any chick.

All you mentioned was how your physical attractiveness was the only thing that mattered so you lookmaxed, which is more in line with Blackpill, not Redpill.

Worldly_Piano9526 · 2023-02-14T13:08:08+00:00

As someone who discovered it in their teens; it's not something that you can really fully understand or appreciate until you have had a few decades experience dealing with people anyway.

Stunning-Potato-1984 · 2023-02-14T15:53:43+00:00

People like attractive people? Groundbreaking.

meteorness123 · 2023-02-14T16:36:27+00:00

I was totally blue pill and thought that as long as I am kind hearted and nice to everyone, someone out there will always want to be with me

Why did you need somebody to tell you that, people are attracted to markers of attractiveness like competence, etc ?

The dumb guy in me actually believed the saying that "men want looks and women want good personality". Women are as much, if not more, shallow than men ,when it comes to looks. Good personality may make your relationship long lasting, but your physical attractiveness is the pretty much the only thing that matters while starting a relationship in your 20s and during the first few months (not even talking about hookups).

Good personality doesn't mean "oh but I'm such a good guy" as you have started. For the hundredth time. "Good personality" means competent, playful, sociable, dominant which you weren't. Also, most people who look normal aren't struggling to date because of their looks.

They truly believe that the attractive asshole Chad has something special and they can fix him without understanding that it's just their hormones fooling them.

You are talking about a specific demographic of women.

Some-Web-1213 · 2023-02-14T12:43:30+00:00

You essentially told us you didn’t look good and didn’t do anything to appeal to women, sitting on your ass and hoping a princess comes along. At the same time, you had some delusional fantasies about women. Why would you be bitter? TRP taught you that women are people too and want to date someone good-looking too. Why is this a revelation?

wtknight · 2023-02-14T10:39:35+00:00

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Logical-Confection-7 · 2023-02-14T12:54:40+00:00

I don’t understand why people think losing weight is something only red pillers would advice to do to be more attractive. Is so basic, now, you can be overweight and still get a girlfriend. Is she going to be super fit, unlikely, although it happens. But everybody knows that losing weight is good if catching the eye is what you want. How is a that a red pill victory?

Substantial_Video560 · 2023-02-14T14:09:37+00:00

I wish I had discovered MGTOW in my early twenties. It would have helped my confidence a lot that's for sure.

LaserFace778 · 2023-02-14T16:32:33+00:00

Good personality means being extroverted not necessarily being nice. Why is this so hard to understand?

NotTheBestMoment · 2023-02-14T15:54:40+00:00

90% of dudes who are in decent shape and of at least a normal height are simply scared. If they tried to talk romantically (not platonically, intention is everything w this advice) to at least one girl a day as a young man, you’d have a date by the end of most weeks. Y’all are fucking scared

2023-02-14T10:41:27+00:00

So what V do you want C'ed? You want us to make you not glad about finding RP?

I mean what we think only matters so much at the end of the day because it's your life. I personally just see someone who fell down the indoctrination rabbit hole that every cult/conspiracy theory under the sun has had success with.

Aiming for weak, disgruntled, vulnerable people.

Leading with logical propositions:

"Personality alone won't get you anywhere.

"Women like physically attractive men."

That primes the subject to accept more dubious propositions as fact, like it being in a woman's "nature" to chase assholes. If you're wondering how the fuck celebrities are being brought into crazy ideologies that are irreparably tainting their careers, this is exactly how it happens.

Zadacat · 2023-02-14T10:34:36+00:00

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Logical-Confection-7 · 2023-02-14T12:56:58+00:00

Also, being good with people is not to get days. Is about your own morals. Do people like kind people yes. Do people like hot people, yes. There may be instance in which this things aren’t alined a people would have to choose between hot and kind, but what you won’t see is people, women included, liking someone who isn’t hot, just because he is an ass.

WYenginerdWY · 2023-02-14T08:47:13+00:00

You basically could have just written "I'm glad I got older and found a unified ideology that allowed me to place the blame for my dissatisfaction with life on other people (women) rather than taking responsibility for my own emotional state and maybe trying therapy. Whew, deflection is the best. Wish I'd found this in my 20s."

dank_summers · 2023-02-15T13:10:34+00:00

Glad you found sucess, most folks dont realize men only begin to dabble in the red pill after years of an unsuccessful blue pilled dating life.

In reality though getting a top 10% physique will do far more than any other piece of information or advice you could consume unless you are super autistic lol

UpbeatInsurance5358 · 2023-02-14T08:55:45+00:00

Well, I'm glad you at least found a hobby. It would be nice if it wasn't the kind to hate women, but hey a club is a club, right?

2023-02-14T21:30:59+00:00

What was "looksmaxxing" for you? Lifting, hygene, and losing weight?

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heavyonthahound · 2023-02-14T15:11:41+00:00

I was heavily into the red pill 10 years ago. I’ll say this; there is a fuckton of deception woven into the red pill ideology. Spinning plates, strategic responses, withholding love and communication to change behavior, manipulation. There are many truths in rp, based on evolutionary biology, but as a husband and father now, I can’t imagine being with my wife with a 100% redpill mindset. It’s hard to put into words, but once I found someone I trusted, much of the red pill stuff just melted away. Some rp ideas are good for dating, but it’s just plain selfish if you want to marry and start a family.

RoseTinted64 · 2023-03-22T21:05:23+00:00

I couldn't agree more.

Petrofskydude · 2023-06-01T15:58:04+00:00

Honestly the asshole personality thing has a utility in that it gives the woman the impression that you are indestructable. Women don't want guys turning into clingers, but they want dating experience just like the rest of us. If you give the attitude that they couldn't possibly hurt you even if they tried, this gives them the freedom to be whoever they want to be, including a sassy bitch, which is fun for them. The minute you drop guard and start showing feelings, she is no longer free to explore her wild side, so your appeal drops dramatically.

Possible-Agency-5474 · 2023-08-04T19:28:15+00:00

Hi before i say anything just so you can relate to me i am 13 years old and 5ft 10 around 130 lbs i have been watching hamza Ahmed since i was twelve i currently am strong and masculine and i just enjoy looking in the mirror but it was not always like that around 2 years ago i was fat feminin and lazy i was a bitch i had a small flabby chest skinny noodle arms and was skinny fat i was a fucking looser then i found the 5 men ho saved me Andrew Tate, Tristan Tate, Hamza Ahmed, David Goggins and finally my futer self i would like to post my routine for any men from 11 and above if your not 11 you can still do this just be safe. Step 1 wake up at 5:50 am step 2 train for over 1 hour at maximum intensity train for the whole hour and step 3 take a cold shower and get read step 4 go to school / work and step 5 get home meditate to work be productive till 8pm step 6 have fun from 8:00pm till 10pm but be on semen retention and step 7 go to sleep at 10pm and eat health

Title	I am glad that I discovered red pill and I regret that I didn't discover it earlier in my early 20s.
Author	Sinister-Apple345
Upvotes	158
Comments	281
Date	February 14, 2023 7:19 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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