Women in their thirties are way better than many women in their twenties

noonereadsthisstuff · 2024-01-17T03:57:29+00:00

It sounds like you're talking about your own personal preferences and using them to make a generalisation about all women, but its all good bro, you go out with whoever you want.

Wattehfok · 2024-01-17T05:37:08+00:00

People out of their 20s are less self-involved, so they tend to make better partners.

No shade on the 20-somethings. It’s just when you spend the most time working yourself out. In the words of Taylor Tomlinson - “your 20s is when you fish trash out of the lake before it freezes over”.

Green-Quantity1032 · 2024-01-17T04:04:07+00:00

They're only (on average!) less desirable looks-wise - character-wise it depends.

If she's jaded then yeah her character will suffer too, but that's true for anyone who's been around

Junior_Ad_3086 · 2024-01-17T08:21:23+00:00

when i was your age i dated women in their 30s too. seemed like a better fit since i was not looking for anything serious and older women generally knew what they want more so than their younger counter parts. they had their own lives and things going on and i was quite busy myself.

my perspective changed in my 30s when i was looking for something long-term. it might happen for you too (or it might not, people have different preferences and that's fine). either way it depends.

McTitty3000 · 2024-01-17T04:02:40+00:00

Depends on what you want and when you want it I guess, when I was 19 I dated a 40 year old woman we were together for 6 years and it was great for a lot of reasons some having to do with her age, when I was 32 I started dating a 19 year old, we got married a year later and have been together ever since, and it's been a fantastic relationship for a number of reasons some having to do with her age.

Most people do tend to date within their age range, whether they actually want to or not, but like I said the woman who's 22 and the woman who's 32 both have something to offer, just depends on where you are in life and what you want

Supreme_Salt_Lord · 2024-01-17T07:45:46+00:00

Facts they are experienced and know what they want. Been thru some shit and dont play alot of games. Yall be trying to have serious relationship with the 8/10 hot girl who clearly wants to enjoy her beauty with other guys. Then get mad when she leaves or cheats.

Get a woman with some experience and let her love you. You want a woman to settle with any lurch looking nerd but wont do the same.

Nihi1986 · 2024-01-17T04:51:03+00:00

Depends...some 30's single women are single for a reason, and you will eventually find out... That said, everyone is better in their 30's, you become much wiser and experienced, and learn to value things differently. In that sense, women become better because they learn to value stability and a nice personality. Make no mistake, though, deep down they still respect more and feel sexually attracted to strength/power/looks.

The older they get, the more they value funny and nice people in general, so there's that...

Personally, I never found them ugly, I think age obviously helps and youth is super attractive, but as you grow older too, you relate more to people your age and that makes them equally attractive in their way. More importantly, attractive people tend to remain attractive for many, many years unless they are unlucky or unhealthy. I mean, a pretty/hot 40yo woman is going to be more attractive than the ugly 20something with unlucky physical traits (same applies to men). The same 40yo woman was probably a lot hotter in her 20's, though.

SillyMushroomTip · 2024-01-17T11:38:45+00:00

As someone who dated/hooked up with alot of 30/40 year olds, their mindset is not that much different than when they were in their 20.

If they still legitimately look good post wall then she's still going to picky and fickle.

If her looks have regressed and/or has a kid, yeah she's going to be more cooperative.

Pathosgrim · 2024-01-17T13:17:25+00:00

You're desperate and the older women are desperate. That's it, that's all. Those older women ur with wouldn't even look your way if they felt like they had better options.

ElbowStrike · 2024-01-17T14:10:58+00:00

Can we all just admit that we want a woman with the brain of a forty year old in the body of a twenty year old?

sandysadie · 2024-01-17T15:02:52+00:00

Wait till you meet some women in their 40's! 🔥

KratosGodOfLove · 2024-01-17T05:26:11+00:00

My experience is completely opposite. When I was in my twenties and I was dating twenties women, they were more agreeable. We could have fun just talking, laughing, going on cheap dates. We enjoyed each other's company without much expectations from each other.

Now that I'm in my thirties and I date thirties women, they expect me to spoil them, pay for dates, put their name on the title of a mortgage. All because I make decent enough money. They have all these expectations on me but they never seem to think they need to deliver any value. They have a high sense of entitlement and at this age, they have this attitude that they will not tolerate any level of shit from anyone. Someone should break the news to them that if you're going to be in a relationship with somebody, you will always have to take some shit (small or large). Obviously, these women look worse than the women in their twenties. But looks aside, their attitude is pretty bad and I much rather date women in their twenties.

claratheresa · 2024-01-17T04:49:34+00:00

Some men simply want to believe that one day they will have more value to women than they currently have, but they won’t. That’s what this is all about. They want to scare women into settling by telling them that their only value is in their looks whereas men in their 30s magically become attractive and wealthy. The reality is that most men will continue to be unattractive and mediocre as they age.

Jazzlike_Worth_9908 · 2024-01-17T07:14:29+00:00

I tend to agree wtith you

PrettyBoysenberry867 · 2024-01-17T12:51:52+00:00

Girls under 30 are looking for a man they can use to increase their own standing, women who've already matured are looking for men who they enjoy being around.

That's why dating as a young man is fucked, because until I got my first grey hair they were always "just looking for someone a little older"; but there's no age restriction on being called for emotional labour or trauma relief.

AutoModerator · 2024-01-17T03:41:12+00:00

Attention!

You can post off topic/jokes/puns as a comment to this Automoderator message.
For "Debate" and "Question for X" Threads: Parent comments that aren't from the target group will be removed, along with their child replies.
If you want to agree with OP instead of challenging their view or if the question is not targeted at you, post it as an answer to this comment.
OP you can choose your own flair according to these guidelines., just press Flair under your post!

Thanks for your cooperation and enjoy the discussion!

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

Ok-Supermarket-6747 · 2024-01-17T06:33:24+00:00

This will always be the case because each generation learns new things and specifically women learning how they were being abused, taken advantage of, groomed etc. Older women are the older generation and many may still not know any better, especially if they aren’t on social media. Also, social media tends to skew what it shows based on age anyway

However, unless the woman is like...really really old, she probably doesn’t wanna be your sugar momma. Women in their 30s are looking for established men as well

LaTableEstBasse · 2024-01-17T08:20:16+00:00

All depends on the baggage...

dbz__f · 2024-01-17T12:27:48+00:00

Lots of women in their thirties are more jaded and burnt out due to a lifetime of failed relationships

shockingly_bored · 2024-01-17T12:37:18+00:00

That's just women who are into you mate, got fuck all to do with age.

cassowaryy · 2024-01-17T15:19:12+00:00

They have to be because they can’t get away with brat behavior anymore. If they were bratty, self-centered, and rude in their late 30s then no one would pay them any mind. When you’re getting less constant validation and admiration it can humble a person.

DesertShifter · 2024-01-17T16:13:56+00:00

If you want to date the oldies and leave more young women to me I wont complain lmao.

bonding with women my own age without cash seems impossible to me

Well duh, where do you expect to live without cash? How do you expect to take her out? Its just not doable without income.

cromulent_weasel · 2024-01-17T21:24:36+00:00

I think that society conditions women to be compliant people pleasers. When that is most effective is when women are younger. They are more passive, more agreeable.

As they age they realise what a shit sandwich that conditioning is and many break out of it. That means they being much more of a vocal self-advocate and much more assertive about pursuing what they want to pursue.

I think that part of the anti-women-ageing narrative about 'hitting the wall' is resentment of women discovering the ability to say no to things they don't like and not just passively agreeing with everything pushed on them.

So I think that might be part of the difference between how you are perceiving your interactions with the two cohorts.

mike-sonko · 2024-01-17T04:20:43+00:00

Better for what? That's the question

But I just felt women in thirties are unnecessarily deemed less desirable

A guy with options will likely pick younger girls. But women in their 30s are not doomed to sexless/incel lives in solitude. Guys will still f**k anything and in their 30s 40s 50s 60s etc women will still get sexual attention. Also women in their 30s are still attractive to guys who want children, though attraction decreases as the age increases.e.g a 30 year old is still attractive for a man who wants kids, but a 39 year old will have to compete with younger women.

In my single days I dated women in their 30s. Most were great women. The older 30s women had

" baby-rabies" though so that never worked for me

Dr_Click_Click_Boom · 2024-01-17T13:02:57+00:00

Younger women are prettier and more physically fit but also less mature and more annoying.

Older women have more sags, wrinkles and baggage but are also more mature and relatable to older men. Also, as I was told as a young man, older women don't tell, don't swell and they're grateful as hell.

Those are your options, gentlemen. Either pick your poison or choose to walk away.

GhettoJamesBond · 2024-01-17T04:35:34+00:00

Well there's a good reason they act better. It's because they've been humbled because they're not as hot or in demand as they used to be.

But you are wrong, they are objectively not as good as younger girls if only for the fact that they are less fertile. If you want to want have a family with a >30 y/o woman you need to do it now. No waiting until you have things in order. If she's >35 you can forget it.

But you are right that older women is what young guys having trouble with girls should go for until they can build their value up. When I was younger and didn't have a car and the younger girls were a hassle, I just got myself a hot milf and was having the time of my life. Even though she was older she was still much hotter then any of the young girls I could get. I think she was just happy to have a younger guy with stamina.

Feisty-Ingenuity4990 · 2024-01-17T04:11:18+00:00

who other people deem attractive shouldn't matter to you but I know it could be hard if you consider yourself part of a community (Red pill, for ex) to say this, because it could appear you are going against the group. Groups with strong ideologies tend to prefer clear in group/out group behaviours and will have practices in place to either pull people back "into line" if they appear to be out of bounds or push them out, in order to ensure group cohesion.

That said, you don't know that red pill men will judge you for your preference. Since their stated goal is to help you find someone, they will likely be happy for you. If some memberrs do try to push you to agree with them, that tells you something about them, not you.

You should date whichever consenting adults you want to. Congrats on having better luck finding people to connect with.

PowerGlove-it-so-bad · 2024-01-17T16:19:44+00:00

" They are more appreciative, they reciprocate efforts more and they are emotionally very supportive."

All of this just sounds unreal to the reality we all know. I'm not saying you're not telling the truth but it's just strange.

The biggest red flag I just read young Man. NEVER look for emotional support in a Woman. Ever. Do not do that again. Go cry in the shower or get a dog. Don't ever do that again. These older Women are putting up a facade for you, they are tricking you.

eye_of_gnon · 2024-01-17T08:51:27+00:00

In terms of behavior, sometimes

But the younger women are generally hotter and that's a big part of male attraction

Enbie-or-Trans · 2024-01-17T19:48:25+00:00

When I was 23 I made the mistake of entering a relationship with a woman in her thirties.

I think it's a big mistake and leaves you open to a lot of abuse, even though I would say women over thirty are better partners and more desirable overall.

idk about the "normal" perspective so might not be a good judge. But my perception is that a lot of men who express these beliefs are relatively young, and want someone who will have more of an equal power dynamic with them, and have more in common with them. They are just really bad at properly expressing these feelings.

I think a lot of women have this same perspective. Older men are a lot more attractive, but they don't want to date them for a lot of reasons. They just express it in ways that use less generalizations.

tawny-she-wolf · 2024-01-17T12:15:37+00:00

Women in their 30s are generally viewed as "less good" because they're less easy to manipulate/control. It's why 30s men go after young early 20s women who are more likely to let them get away with their bullshit

obviousredflag · 2024-01-17T08:01:00+00:00

. But since I (24M) have been talking to some women who are above 30 and I'm noticing that they are so much better than the many women of my own age. They are more appreciative, they reciprocate efforts more and they are emotionally very supportive.

Well, those qualities are not really what men are into on average, if it comes at the expense of youthful looks, and personality traits that correlate with age like naivety and playfulness. Sure, there are women >30 who look better, are more playful etc. than some women in their mid-20s. We can only talk about averages for groups.

I just felt women in thirties are unnecessarily deemed less desirable

They are not deemed to be less desirable, they are observably less desirable.

<image>

Hircus_Leti · 2024-01-17T12:32:16+00:00

This is absolutely right ☝🏻 As a freshly 30 year old guy, I can't fathom lads my age and older wanting 22 - 25 - 28 even year old girlfriends "to make themselves feel younger"

hongsta2285 · 2024-01-17T13:02:06+00:00

Hey if u want geriatric pregnancies with higher risk factors of about x3 go ahead man knock yourself out go enjoy shooting your shot at it. I don't wanna ruin my life with that crap. My friend wifed up a 32+ year old and boom he drew the short straw with his kid grand autismo yeah really changed and ruined his life. I said it he said it we all knew it. It's his life story u don't want to hear but u need to hear.

Personally I just don't take that risk . Don't need to I do well for myself and in my 30s I can still date 20s don't need to waste my time on ivf it's about 12000 per round in my state. Done the maths its not worth it when u can get a better one straight off the shelf. But by all means if u want to go ahead and get that 30s train going plenty of them out there enjoy 😉 don't let me hold u back man . Me imma just go for a different fertile crowd so I lower my risk and exercise better risk management in life. No one cares about your rebuttal if u don't state facts and just talk about how u feel! Tyvm

Financial_Chemist286 · 2024-01-17T04:25:40+00:00

Sure maybe they’re better because of more experience but it’s like the NFL for men.

Most players that are 25-26 years old are performing the best. They have the most production and energy. Not to mention recovery time and how fast they can bounce back from injury.

It’s a pipe dream for many men to think they’re better players in the NFL in their later 30’s than they were in their later 20’s

Sure there are a few who have longer careers but that not the general occurrence.

Men see production and performance in women. Younger women have more to give in what men seek and find attractive.

Savage_Nymph · 2024-01-17T08:52:02+00:00

This is the second thread this week, I've seen regarding younger men pursuing older women.

Although this one is MUCH more negative lol

I don't think it's strange op. If you're having positive experiences with older women, then continue to pursue them

I wouldn't say completely write off young women completely. But maybe stick to late 20s and see if that works for you

captaindestucto · 2024-01-17T10:08:08+00:00

Men who want a chance at a family aren't going to be dating women in their late 30s or 40s for obvious reasons

ShelterNo2786 · 2024-01-17T05:37:43+00:00

So you're a 24 year old male who can't get women his own age so resort to older women with lower SMV and to make yourself feel better you believe older women are better

😂 😂 😂

Purple_Kangaroo8549 · 2024-01-17T07:46:34+00:00

They usually have:

Kids
A truck load of emotional baggage.
An extensive sexual history.

If you find someone without these three issues then they are OK.

NataliaCaptions · 2024-01-17T07:11:19+00:00

Women in their 30s are looking for a beta provider. So many guys experience girls in their 30s being agreable, supportive and willing to make the relationship work... until you get married and they finally relax.

boom-wham-slam · 2024-01-17T10:34:56+00:00

You said they have lower standards... smh. That's a terrible reason to like them better... oh yeah they hit the wall and are desperate now, that's why I like em. Smdh. Just think about that for a second.

asixfootplatypus · 2024-01-17T11:45:12+00:00

Women in their thirties do that because they're running out of time and need to tie someone down quickly.

jaybalvinman · 2024-01-17T12:28:52+00:00

To be honest no group of women is "better" than any other. We were all children once, we are all 20 once, we are all 30 once (of course unless ones lives a short life). We grow and bloom as human beings. We mature throughout life and our values change.

The people who say women "lose value" are trapped in a patriarchal and misogynistic mindset. No human being loses value. There is inherent value in human beings and only people who see others as objects say they lose that value.

FebruaryEightyNine · 2024-01-17T10:25:27+00:00

Nah.

Older women tend to be better for less attractive/desirable men. Honestly, one of the appeals of younger women is the fact that they're in the peak of their sexual attractiveness. There's none of the weird angst and bitterness you get with older women.

I remember a few years ago when u came back on tinder. All the older women would be super entitled, would ghost randomly and often just had crazy off-putting demeanour. Their younger counterparts were often nicer, easier to deal with, wouldn't weirdly disappear randomly and were just all around easier to get along with.

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2024-01-17T05:09:55+00:00

So basically you couldn't pull women your own age so you started pursuing older women and since they have fewer options, they accepted you.

Listen, you don't have a preference for older women, they are just your best option because you can't pull beautiful women your own age, because if you could you would never date an older woman again

CorrectWasabi647 · 2024-01-17T12:02:14+00:00

Early 30s is still ok... after 35 is when the kareness will start to surface....

Suspicious-Bed-2717 · 2024-01-17T14:43:02+00:00

Why is my egg carton empty , I swore I bought it 30 days ago

SecondEldenLord · 2024-01-17T19:43:08+00:00

Wouldn't say so, they are usually broken and traumatised and a single mother at that age. And it's a higher chance that they have a huge body count and higher the body count, higher the chances of divorce and infidelity.

TurboBanned · 2024-01-17T04:31:00+00:00

Most of the wall talk is that 30s women are just less hot, which is true.

Sure they may beat the young ladies in all other metrics, but they can't really, on average, be hotter than the young ladies.

Kagenikakushiteru · 2024-01-17T09:21:47+00:00

campskills21 · 2024-01-17T04:06:28+00:00

There’s a young guy out there having a real relationship with a woman in a nursing home. Want to be with whatever girls you want.

harmonica2 · 2024-01-17T13:42:39+00:00

I have also had a similar experience to the op and that more women in their 30s are more supportive based on prior experience. However this isn't always the case though, just more so.

sixsevenrice · 2024-01-17T16:10:40+00:00

definitely not physically lol

YearsOfShit · 2024-01-17T17:38:08+00:00

Good for you, I guess, but it's not for me. I wish more of my competition preferred women in their 30s to 20s.

Like was said, your post was subjective as fuck.

Literal_Jesus_ · 2024-01-17T18:12:54+00:00

From my experience in general, men in their thirties are typically better conversationalists, have more diverse interests, are more stable, are more emotionally intelligent and are in general better partners than their younger counterparts so I’m not really shocked that women in their 30s would follow suit. Most of the women I’ve developed flames for were in their early thirties so it checks out.

Idk man age and experience makes you a more attractive partner doesn’t really shock me that this goes both ways.

TheWama · 2024-01-17T18:21:15+00:00

Ben Franklin is way ahead of you bro: https://www.wanderings.net/notebook/Main/BenjaminFranklinAdviceOnChoiceOfAMistress

luroot · 2024-01-17T18:32:02+00:00

I've seen a lot of posts on internet where people deem women in thirties as unattractive or less valuable (for eg comments like they hit the wall after 30). But since I (24M) have been talking to some women who are above 30 and I'm noticing that they are so much better than the many women of my own age. They are more appreciative, they reciprocate efforts more and they are emotionally very supportive.

Whereas my experience with many women around my age was not that good. My level best efforts for them meant nothing to many. Without exceptional looks and money, bonding with women of my age seems impossible to me.

But I just felt women in thirties are unnecessarily deemed less desirable when they are actually seem more valuable and, compatible to be with.

Lol, you really just proved the point. 20-something women are the most unattainable because they are at their highest value. 30-something women are more attainable by comparison because their value has dropped.

And btw, don't think for a split-second that women don't know exactly what their market value is to the nth degree. They pay verrryyy close attention to how many, and what kind of, men approach and give them sexual attention on a regular basis...and also compare that with their friends. So, they know exactly where they stand and act accordingly.

Women (and men) only behave as well as they have to. So, a woman who is more reciprocal and supportive is...because she has to be to compete against hotter 20-somethings.

lovestocomment · 2024-01-19T08:13:43+00:00

The men who they want in their age group don't want them. And it's mostly not because these women are physically unattractive. They mentally, socially, practically mand emotionally unattractive. Anyway get your practice in bro. Women love preselection and experience. Once you realize the truth, put your pride aside and take the pill then put your experience and knowledge to good use. To find a woman you actully want to be with. A man in his 30s and up typically, value certain things in a partner and women in their thirties don't meet the requirements or can not satisfy those values.

Obviously there are exceptions to the rule. However, those exceptions typically have the traits those men value so, they marry them.

No-Rough-7390 · 2024-01-19T16:59:57+00:00

Women in their 30s were far easier to hookup with, but they’d also wanna fast forward everything because FOMO was hitting hard.

DolphinPunkCyber · 2024-01-19T17:06:14+00:00

"One man's trash is another man's treasure" and vice versa.

"Beauty is in the eyes of beholder"

Men often complain that women skip them in order to chase after a man which is less valuable then they are. They see themselves more valuable then another man.

But she sees that other man more valuable.

Her perception is more important when it comes to her choosing a man. So the guy that sees himself as more valuable can just shrug or complain on PPD about it.

Same goes for women. We can see ourselves be more valuable due to our acquired wisdom, maturity, education...

But if man sees a younger woman as being more attractive, all we can do is just shrug and vent on reddit about it.

Title	Women in their thirties are way better than many women in their twenties
Author	Flimsy-Possible8868
Upvotes	26
Comments	223
Date	January 17, 2024 3:41 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/198mz1m/women_in_their_thirties_are_way_better_than_many/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/women-in-their-thirties-are-way-better-than-many.1243198 https://theredarchive.com/post/1243198

Comments