men hate things they cause

ConanTheCybrarian · 2025-06-12T08:10:29+00:00

there technically is a valid critique around this subject, but you missed it and went straight to ironic hypocrisy.

What's the difference between certain men grouping all women together and blaming them all for societal issues and you grouping all men together and blaming them all for societal issues?

PM_ME_ZED_BARA · 2025-06-12T08:12:39+00:00

This argument is rather silly. If I follow the same logic, I could say that

Women hate bad men (misogynists, sexual predators, abusers) = women creating them by giving birth to them and raising them.

The pitfall of this argument is the assumption of hypoagency of a large group of population and hyperagency of the other group. The reality is more complicated than that.

WanabeInflatable · 2025-06-12T07:53:39+00:00

Men also hate misandrists who generalize men and blame one man for actions of some other men.

Swimming-Skill8318 · 2025-06-12T08:15:24+00:00

According to your theory women are just infants with no will of their own

So who's the misogynist here ?

SwimmingTheme3736 · 2025-06-12T09:46:46+00:00

I only hear hate for them online.

A lot of men in the real world love sluts, a lot don’t hate single mums and of girls.

We need to stop this all men all women bullshit

Icyfemboy · 2025-06-12T14:34:57+00:00

This is like saying 100% bank robbers are humans. Humans bad!!!

ZaneBradleyX · 2025-06-12T09:04:55+00:00

First of all, that’s usually not even the same men, you’re generalizing hard. And second, most men don’t hate any type of women. Choosing not to date someone isn’t hate, it’s just preference.

By your logic, we could say “women hate attractive bad boys because they end up settling with nice guys,” and that wouldn’t make sense either.

klaire_bear_ · 2025-06-12T08:02:54+00:00

Men criticise every single thing a woman does that doesn't centre or benefit them if you pay attention. Criticism from men is worthless.

Reject these men.

Reject all men that hold contempt, disrespect and disregard for women.

It's really that simple.

behappyfor · 2025-06-12T08:23:45+00:00

Men literally create half of these things. I don't want men to now start crying about how they are the "nice ones" who don't do it. OF, Porn etc is something MOST men watch. Yet it's something most men hate as well while simultaneously ENGAGING in it.

Men also hate sluts while wanting women to become sluts and fk them too. They want multiple ONS with hot women but don't want women to become sluts or whores

They want multiple women in bars because it's a "sausage fest" yet hate those same women who are going in bars calling them whores.

Men want extreme benefits while doing nothing

They don't want women to be "independent girl bosses" but dare if a woman wants a man who makes bit more than her and makes her a stay at home mom. Then they say housework is so easy, cooking is so easy, women cry about everything while also hating women who work because they are "career oriented" and thats masculine

The_Forgotten001 · 2025-06-12T12:08:55+00:00

Which men? Be specific…. I don’t think gay men care about hating women.

Don’t think men currently married care.

Single men who aren’t dating don’t care.

Players? But they’re the ones fucking so they clearly like women.

Have you ever consistently gone out of your way to fuck something you hate consistently? Don’t think so.

Which men Hate Onlyfans? If they’re paying for it they don’t hate it. Have you ever had a subscription to something you abhor and paid it for months on end?

Didn’t think so.

So who are you talking about?

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sammyb1122 · 2025-06-12T07:58:05+00:00

I don't think "cause" is the right word here. In all cases you mentioned, two parties are involved.

Also men are not a Monolith, so the men who participated with those women may not be the men who dislike those women.

Albedo200 · 2025-06-12T09:27:17+00:00

Firstly, what do you call hate? If i say i dont date promiscuous women, single mom or an only fans girl, and nothing more, is that hate? Cause honestly, aside from that preference, i really have nothing against them nor say anything hateful but alot of times just that preference alone gets taken as hate.

Secondly, not all men "create" such women. Infact its a low percentage of men who even have the privilege to be able to sleep around and have one night stands. And alot of those promiscuous men have no problem dating promiscuous women, maybe some of them fs, so you cant really say they hate such women. And for those that create single mom.... Do i even have to argue, how often do u meet a young man who has a baby momma? Maybe older men sure, but alot of them are open to dating single moms, so they are not the ones hating on them

Lastly, its not mens fault that some women are sluts, or porn actresses/ OF models. These women choose to sleep around out of their own free will and choose to make porn in exchange for monetary gain. They are the ones who gave their body away. Now i don't believe in slut shaming or hating on such women, but its not the fault of those hateful men that they did what they did. The only one i kinda agree with is the single mom one, yeah cause it could be that the man changed along the way or she ignored all the red flag on his personality

smoll0d1ck0beta · 2025-06-12T10:06:46+00:00

Shouldn’t you be grateful for men who finance your lifestyle. You literally get paid to pleasure yourself.

Shadowcat1606 · 2025-06-12T10:10:24+00:00

All of that can just as easily be turned around:

Men hate sluts= they create them because men are desperate and easy.

Men wanting sluts (i don't like the word in this context and i don't think people, men or women, should be shamed for promiscuity, but i get why it's used here, it serves its purpose) doesn't mean women have to become sluts. They could just... you know, not. But they get something out of it themselves or at least expect to, if they confirm to what they think men want, so they do. That's on them.

Men hate single moms= single moms wouldn't exist if men didn't abandon their kids or actually used condoms.

While i agree that both partners should take care of protection (at least talking about it and deciding what they're gonna use), that goes mostly for stable relationships or affairs.

If you regularly have casual sex with changing partners, women should make sure they are protected, meaning either no sex if he doesn't use a rubber or pills/iud/etc, precisely because they are the ones who are going to take the brunt of the consequences. Doesn't mean men shouldn't use protection, but in the end, in a casual situation without commitment, it's every (wo)man for themselves.

And in the cases of relationships that end over a pregnancy... well, look for better men, then. Lots of guys out there that want kids and families. Maybe don't hook up with the asshole that's gonna run out at the first sign of something serious or any other issues or ducks away from the responsibility afterwards.

Men hate only fans models= Men pay for them and that's why they exist.

Men hating them is men's problem, indeed. But as for causing them... nah, they don't. Men had more than enough porn way before OF became a thing. Same thing as with your first point - just because men want that content and are willing to pay for it doesn't mean women have to offer that content. They could just work regular job... like the men that pay for OF. But they decide to flash their titties for some apparently easy cash - that's on them.

CerealExprmntz · 2025-06-12T10:50:31+00:00

Notice how women have no agency in this story of yours. Things are done to them, they don't participate, they don't make decisions, they can't be toxic because they don't actually do things. That's kinda what you're saying.

single moms wouldn't exist if men didn't abandon their kids or actually used condoms.

Some single moms exist because the father died. And sometimes men use condoms and those condoms fail. Some women choose to exclude the father's of the child from the child's life completely. Some never even inform the man that they're pregnant. Stop infantilizing women.

klaire_bear_ · 2025-06-12T10:57:59+00:00

Unsure based on this if she's "biased" based solely on this post. Men don't treat women worse or give less attention as women age. I know that this is a widely held misconception but it's not actually even true. I've no idea what value she even gives to male attention. Generally though attention from men is cheap and abundant.

Nobody is completely innocent so ill assume she isn't either. That doesn't mean she's exploited anyone for financial gain specifically.

Is this hateful to make a post about an observation on double standards? Everyone's going to have an opinion on that. I dont see this post as very hateful personally.

Superannuated_punk · 2025-06-12T11:31:17+00:00

Oi. Quit badmouthing my slutty/single parent/sex worker friends.

DetoxUpside · 2025-06-12T12:13:36+00:00

what men? you're referring to anonymous trolls online. These same men would happily date the single mum, pay the onlyfans girl for a lap dance and try sleep with the slut in real life. So do men actually hate these women or are they just having a whinge behind the keyboard?

Adject_Ive · 2025-06-12T12:29:10+00:00

%10-15 of guys have %80 of sex.

Men that pay for of is probably less than %1. I literally don't know a single man in my life that has paid in any form for any kind of porn let alone onlyfans.

throwawaytradesman2 · 2025-06-12T12:31:07+00:00

Hi OP,

I just think people need to be accountable for their own life choices. Just own it, whatever it is, male or female.

We will be judged in one way or another.

Training-Cook3507 · 2025-06-12T13:25:04+00:00

Men don't create any of that. Women are free to make their own decisions. But some men don't like some of the decisions they make.

Connect_Wallaby2876 · 2025-06-13T23:56:17+00:00

Women initiate the overwhelming majority of breakups and divorces. Women control access to sex, they are the buyers in the casual sexual marketplace so it’s not men’s fault for women being 304s. Average guy struggles to get a tinder date

DivineGeneralxox · 2025-06-14T15:01:09+00:00

Men hate sluts= they create them because men are desperate and easy.

A small group of men are making sluts, and these ‘sluts’ have no autonomy?

Men hate single moms= single moms wouldn't exist if men didn't abandon their kids or actually used condoms.

Same group of men who are ‘making’ sluts are the ones making single moms. Also do these single moms have autonomy? Cant they refuse to have raw sex? Cant they refuse to have raw sex until marriage or until a man invests $100,000? We’re not going to fck and bounce if weve made a significant investment.

Men hate only fans models= Men pay for them and that's why they exist.

This is true though. We say we hate ‘hoeing’ culture, but were the ones paying them with money and attention.

calmly86 · 2025-06-14T19:44:54+00:00

“Single moms wouldn't exist if men didn't abandon their kids or actually used condoms.”

The men complaining about single mothers aren’t the men who those women chose who “made” them single mothers. Those women chose those particular men of their own free will…

“So stop coming after woemn and come after other men lol.”

Why? Why should the men women ignore gang up on and threaten the men women choose to “be better?” Those men know they don’t have to improve themselves in any way, because women keep picking them.

Here’s a simple solution: women should choose better. Oh, and choosing better has nothing to do with height, money, status, charm, vibe, or “rizz.”

2025-06-15T13:15:17+00:00

so a man was sitting there forcing every single OF person to create their profile?

A man was helping her become a slut? How? What did he personally do to her to make her live her slut lifestyle? That was HER choice not his. 🤣

Why did SHE pick a shitty man to have a child with? I mean I’m in my late 20s and never once opened my legs to a man that couldn’t step up and be a father. I respect my life and body way too much to allow this. She consented to him entering her body fully aware he was a shitty human. Sex creates life- yall can’t be that dumb..

You’ve got this ass backwards lol

srqfla · 2025-06-16T08:28:22+00:00

Yes, but every road that only fans model uses to drive to a grocery store was built by men. The grocery store where she buys her food was built by men. The car she drives was built by men.

If her roof was damaged in her house, it would be repaired by seven men.

Tuatara77 · 2025-06-17T06:50:29+00:00

Wtf? I know plenty of men who view their fellow men that sleep around a lot as sluts, men that leave their children as worthless, and men that pay for OF as an embarrassment, your point sucks, you just assume.

Knight-Bishop · 2025-06-12T09:07:29+00:00

I actually do hate single Mom’s— I can’t stand them.

You would hate single Mom’s too if 95% of the women on dating apps are single Mom’s.

I think the only thing you single Mom’s in here deserve are single Dad’s. Date each other. Leave childless people alone.

Oh wait— oh yeah— that’s right: single Mom’s spend night & day looking for a childless man to help raise their bastard kids.

Single Mom’s don’t like single Dad’s. But you single Mom’s damn near feel entitled to a childless man to help raise your bastard kids.

This hypocrisy is a major reason I hate single Mom’s. ⬆️

And no, the vast majority of men don’t “abandon” women & their kids. It isn’t statistically accurate: 80% of divorces are filed by women. Sorry- this doesn’t pass the smell test.

Outside_Memory5703 · 2025-06-12T16:36:56+00:00

Men respect men, so they won’t

Nidken · 2025-06-12T18:45:15+00:00

Men can hate womanisers and sluts at the same time, both are degenerate.

There will be single mothers even when men want to be fathers. Women can file for divorce too.

Chicken or egg. Men wouldn't pay for onlyfans if women didn't post nudes.

Next.

Schleudergang1400 · 2025-06-12T09:04:08+00:00

I enjoy promiscuous women. I have my part in "creating" them, but not because i am desperate, but because i enjoy having new sex partners. You bring the moral judgment into this.

I couldn't care less about single moms, just like i don't care about the other 99%+ of the female population, who i do not regard as potential mates.

I couldn't care less about only fans models. I encouraged my gf to start an onlyfans if she needs extra money.

No need to come after women or other men. I'd rather come after you for spreading lies and overgeneralizing. You have a deep seated issue with men. You are the one needing their validation, but also hating this part about yourself. There is no need to incite hatred everyday. Go to therapy and make peace with your issues.

ThunderDU · 2025-06-12T08:26:38+00:00

Truuu

thunderchungus1999 · 2025-06-12T11:21:19+00:00

Definetly agree (minus the last bit lol we don't have to get together with other men)

Not sure why everyone on this subreddit treats male attraction towards women as an unchangeable, untrestable thing we cannot exert control over.

If we started recognizing our worth more like OP mentioned there could be a lot of change in the complaints of the average male user here - but a lot don't care about changing that mindset it seems. Women didn't get things for free either you know, they organized too.

HalfwaydonewithEarth · 2025-06-12T08:43:44+00:00

They are so loveable though.

I am married so only get one.

Women cause a lot of drama also. We are hot and heavy one moment and disinterested the next.

Single moms are better than childfree.

I went back and forth between Mom and Dad being single.

Broken homes are great launching pads.

I felt so much underwhelm by them I found a husband I thought I could go the distance with.

We are 17 years together and provide a perfect home environment for our daughter. Daughter is thriving on all metrics.

Only fans is zoo animals chasing a dopamine rush. Us conservative tradwifes get more valuable.

The feminine gal in her sundress not showing her private parts to her boyfriend is going to subdue him.

Tradwife kinks are on the rise.

Men will get so desensitized to that smut he will tune it out.

Title	men hate things they cause
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Date	June 12, 2025 7:47 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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