I've seen many threads and comments from women over the years lamenting that male friends always try to end up dating them. They start as friends first and then eventually the man shows romantic interest. The women complain that they hate when this happens for various reasons, but one in particular that I remember is that the women say it makes them feel like the men just wanted to date them and lied or manipulated or something to get their foot in the door.

I also hear very often from many people that you should get to know and enjoy spending time with your future spouse and have similar interests, ideas and values, and your spouse should be your best friend. So I'm confused with these two ideas. How are you supposed to know and date women when many of them get upset when you do? Meet women in real life and don't cold approach is common messaging I hear, but that means becoming friends first. This seems like a conflict. It seems the women who hate having to friendzone men want the guys to just walk up to them with their dating intentions immediately or be platonic friends forever. This sounds like dating apps would be ideal for this group, but dating apps are always lambasted.

So is it just two different groups of women? Or can what seems like a contradiction be explained to me here and now?