Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on Tinder

Expensive-Guitar3609 · 2021-10-31T18:06:51+00:00

If she's charging me too, I wouldn't.

Otherwise, "she's giving me for free what others had to pay for", which I think it's the reverse of that ol' redpill catch phrase.

I also dated a escort briefly. Amazing girl. Not the kind of woman I would chose to mother my children, but I keep really good memories of the time I spent with her (and some very hot anecdotes, she found out she was bisexual while we were together). Very loving, attentive, supportive and super hot girl, mindblowing not-at-all average vanilla sex, good chemistry... And a lot of money to spend on stupid shit.

Yes, I would date the escort. At least she has proof of being a smart woman.

The only downside is that some guys thought I was paying her to be with me, but I think that's better than being pointed out as the guy who's dating a woman every man around can have but prefers not to.

Everyone can download Tinder. Not everyone can cost a young hot VIP escort.

2021-10-31T20:31:26+00:00

If I'm NOT paying I'd rather take the prostitute.

I would rather be with someone that gets used like a sex toy for money than someone that gets used like a sex toy for free.

If I have to pay, I'm not doing it.

EXTRA: your point about "getting for free what other men had to pay for" is SPOT ON. You made a great fucking point there. I feel proud when I get in one day and for free what other guys had to wait weeks and pay for dates to get.

Barely-moral · 2021-10-31T13:51:46+00:00

Wat? Most men would never date a woman if they knew she was an escort.

A woman that sleeps around on tinder is not ideal either, at least for some men, but she is leagues above a prostitute on most men's eyes.

Men's reluctance to date women with high body counts isn't about "slut-shaming", it's about not wanting to feel like they're being settled for.

Sure, but you are ignoring that most men will never consider an escort as a potential dating partner because of disgust.

PerceptionTasty1495 · 2021-10-31T13:36:05+00:00

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00_BergEmergence · 2021-11-01T19:06:53+00:00

Men want to ensure paternity which is why we are instinctively repulsed by high body count women. Men will always go for the virgin over the escort all things being equal. Any guy who says otherwise is lying/coping

PirateDocBrown · 2021-10-31T14:03:56+00:00

Men dont necessarily pay escorts for sex.

They pay them, so it can be a simple transaction.

A relationship is a massive web of expectations obligations and social effects. A hooker is just a business counterpart.

If a guy is gonna go through all he must for a relationship with a woman, he wants something to show for that effort. She can be good arm candy, or great in bed, or comforting and caring, or will build a home and family with him, or even come with a dowry. There have been many reasons, throughout the ages. So of course men look, and should look, for the best relationship material they can find, if that's what they want.

Hookers are way different. Sure, you want good sex. But lots of men will confide in an escort things they'd tell no one else. But once it's done, it's done.

Jakes1967 · 2021-10-31T16:03:37+00:00

Having done close protection to escorts, I'd rather date the escort, as she's more refined, educated and intelligent than your average town bicycle.

On average, escorts are good businesswomen, who are exceptionally knowledgeable and fantastic hostesses. They are on par with most sommeliers and maître d'. Most that I met, have a more than working knowledge of food, some were trained chefs and most were mixologists.

IJUSTWANTTOLEARN__ · 2021-10-31T13:27:03+00:00

I promise you no one thinks like this lol

Edit: I hate that short thoughtless throwaway comments like this one get any substantial amount of upvotes...I just dismissed the post with no counter argument and 30 people like it. Wtf human nature.

CimZim · 2021-10-31T13:45:17+00:00

It satisfies his ego more to know that he got what all those other men had to pay for.

I really don't think that has anything to do with it. You're saying the guy isn't upset about paying money for her services, because he knows all other men had to also? Then why not just date a low N woman who also waited until she was comfortable enough to have sex? Then you're at least sure she's having sex with you out of desire rather than a paycheck.

However, he feels like he is being "settled" for when he knows he looks nothing like the "Chads" that Tinder girl was hooking up with.

Then I'd recommend he stay off tinder completely since it's essentially a hooking up app. If you go to a bakery, why are you surprised they carry bread?

The reason why the "sexual double standard" exists is that women know that men "fuck down" for casual sex so they don't feel like they're being settled for when they date a man with a high body count. However, she probably wouldn't want to date a man who achieved his body count by seeing escorts because she would feel like she's being settled for.

...what? No. The reason I don't want a high N man is because I seriously doubt we have similar views on sex and attachment. My view of sex is that it's something to primarily be shared amongst people who at the minimum care about each other, not simply to satisfy an itch with a random stranger. High N men are low value imo because they've stuck their dick in whoever would take them, which shows a lack of standards and attachment. A man my age who's N < 3 but all of those were LTR/FWB is a far superior choice for a relationship.

You can see this in how they've reacted to women talking about their experiences with hiring male escorts.

Haven't had the opportunity, but I'd give it a shot. Sounds better and safer than dating lol.

However, she probably wouldn't want to date a man who achieved his body count by seeing escorts because she would feel like she's being settled for.

If he only hired 1 or 2 and cared about them as people and respected them as sex workers, that's fine. If he's a cunt who acts like sex workers are trash and bottom of the barrel, hard pass.

Ballzdeep1961 · 2021-10-31T21:08:25+00:00

Escorts are way more honest and friendly.

klauskinki · 2021-10-31T17:58:58+00:00

People here always seem to forget or ignore something while discussing this topic. An high body count (or working in the sex industry) are basically synonymous with mental illness. A woman doesn't do neither of these things if she doesn't have already mental health issues. So it would be better to not date the highly promiscuous girl nor the escort but the second one could have been brought to that path by some wrong turns in her life (in that sense in order to be an escort she didn't need to have prior mental issues) while the first one did that by her own volition and that means she mos def had some issues going on

2021-10-31T19:18:49+00:00

There’s some validity here. I’ll explain.

I don’t mind being one of Teanna Trump’s many. She’s a very famous whore but outside of access or being lucky enough to be in her vicinity, there aren’t much in terms of avenues that are getting you into bed with her.

As far as regular women go… yeah I don’t wanna put in the work that other men didn’t have to put in, I guess.

BannedAccountNumber5 · 2021-11-01T06:38:52+00:00

How would you react if a partner told you they had been with prostitutes in the past? : AskWomen (reddit.com)

This kinda surprised me. Why are so many ladies appalled by the usage of prostitution? I though sexual history wasn't important?

AreOut · 2021-11-01T07:00:56+00:00

This is absolutely true, if she likes to sleep around it's smarter to take the money.

Independent escorts are also MORE choosy than tinder sluts and some of them are going to sleep only with high class men, at least because those men have the money to pay them unlike trailer trash guys tinder girls sometimes end up with.

Extracrispyrooster · 2021-11-01T14:25:39+00:00

What's the difference?

JacobMoogberg69 · 2021-10-31T14:21:16+00:00

Think about it? She is so good that she charges for it? Who wouldn't want to tap that!

jasonology09 · 2021-10-31T15:31:44+00:00

I have never, and will never ask what a woman's body count is. I don't care because It's none of my business, and it affects my life 0%.

For the exact same reasons, I'll never tell her mine. Plus I don't even know, and am not interested in doing the mental exercise to figure it out. If she presses, I'll never be more specific than; more than 10, less than 100.

Early_Armadillo_254 · 2021-10-31T13:52:32+00:00

I've gotten prostitutes that look like Victoria secret models. Also the sex was great so you should give it a try

Every_Breakfast1246 · 2021-10-31T14:16:02+00:00

The girl will be hotter and the sex will be better.

But there’s also the knowledge that she’s only fucking you for money. If you’re guy that’s okay with that then of course it’s better.

sunkized · 2021-10-31T14:37:54+00:00

I will never tell any girl I've been with that I've seen escorts. Screw that. I'm just happy to not be a 30 yr old virgin.

Det_Steve_Sloan · 2021-10-31T15:27:34+00:00

I don't get into relationships with sluts because they are of low character, not because some other guy is hotter than me.

CuppaJoe2020 · 2021-10-31T15:47:40+00:00

So many stereotypes and generalizations.

VastlyVainVanity · 2021-10-31T13:42:20+00:00

Lol, what? I've never in my life seen a guy who would rather date a whore than a woman who has slept around on Tinder.

Personally, I wouldn't date either. But that seems like an absurd idea, OP. The men who care about past promiscuity, IMO, wouldn't want to date escorts at all.

Caring about the sexual past of a woman isn't about whether the dicks that were inside her were high or low quality. It's about whether she has treated sex like something special only shared with people she loves, or if it's something banal she has shared with randos. Whether those randos were pretty boys from Tinder or old men who paid her is irrelevant from what I can see.

Chaos_and_Horny · 2021-10-31T13:56:31+00:00

Male here. I would rather date an escort than someone who slept around in tinder, BUT theres more to that and the reasons you stated dont apply to me. I feel so much more secure around escorts. I cant be ashamed about any sexual history because there is no history in contrast to hers. Escorts have seen everything by the time she would be with me, so there is no expectations so I can just relax and try to make her happy. From my point of view, if we are talking about n-counts and sexual experiences, average women and escorts are the same, theres no difference. If theres no difference, I would rather pay to get security, not any other random variable. PS. to make an escort cum is more worth it than to even wet my dick, all this has nothing to do with being lazy or selfish.

NotTheBestMoment · 2021-10-31T14:05:49+00:00

The Bible compares Jerusalem to prostitution. In short, it basically says that escorts are better because that they at least get paid. While sluts are so much worse because they give it for free.

Ezekiel 16:33 They give gifts to all whores: but thou givest thy gifts to all thy lovers, and hirest them, that they may come unto thee on every side for thy whoredom. 34 And the contrary is in thee from other women in thy whoredoms, whereas none followeth thee to commit whoredoms: and in that thou givest a reward, and no reward is given unto thee, therefore thou art contrary.

PerceptionTasty1495 · 2021-10-31T14:52:07+00:00

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CFinCanada · 2021-10-31T14:00:39+00:00

Tinder heralded the end of the hookup days for me.

Ime guys were way more likely to pump and dump women before tinder.

The guys on tinder were all thirsty for relationships, which I have to assume is a result of the sex ratio imbalance on there.

Once tinder came along you could just order up a boyfriend from your phone. No need to deal with acquaintances or guys from your social network just looking for casual or short-term relationships.

Hard to say for sure though since the guys I dated before tinder came along were a lot younger, and young guys (below 23) are way more likely to be fuckbois.

HumanNumber348 · 2021-10-31T16:01:14+00:00

Who the fuck would feel threatened by the fact that their partner had slept with more attractive people? How is that in any way a sign that they settled for you? I really don’t see the connection...

Bandit174 · 2021-10-31T14:29:17+00:00

So I agree on the part that women are more likely to fuck up and men are more likely to fuck down for casual sex. So insecurity is definitely part of the equation and it is a valid concern because if you're an average guy and you're dating a girl who fucked around on tinder you probably are a physical downgrade compared to the men she was able to get casual sex with.

However I don't think thats all there is too it nor do I think most men would be ok dating a prostitute. Even if every guy she fucked was a bald, ugly midget with a micropenis I would still feel that sinking feeling in my chest towards the idea of her being my girlfriend. Yes it feels worse if the guys were better than me but even if they were all inferior to me the high number and thinking about all the guys just paying her is enough to turn me off her completely.

Im also not sure its even true that all the prostitutes clients would be LVM. Lots of celebrities and high status men use prostitutes for the convenience and discression. Id say most prostitutes have fucked attractive big dicked sexually experienced men just as much as the average girl on tinder has.

AmbitiousHornet · 2021-10-31T14:36:51+00:00

All things being equal, i.e. equal body counts, I would choose the escort if I were attracted to her for her experience and the fact that she actually had to work to please a man for her income. I would then expect her to please me. The Tinder women would most likely not have pleasing men at the top of their list. And pleasing a man encompasses more than just bedroom skills.

Throwaway18077 · 2021-10-31T16:19:07+00:00

But this entire post is based off the assumption that the man who’s deciding between the two options is incredibly and insufferably insecure. I think this post is complete bullshit and i think a vast majority of men would strongly disagree, solely because I do not believe majority of men are insecure enough about themselves to prefer a girl who got paid for sex solely because the clientele was a less valuable pool of men to compete with.

f1vepointoh · 2021-11-01T02:16:49+00:00

They are litterally the same girl 🤣🤣

rredirt · 2021-10-31T13:37:15+00:00

With an escort, you make the transaction and if you fuck up somehow, at least you are assured that it won’t get anywhere out of the place. Instead with any three woman, you can never be absolutely sure they will respect that boundary and privacy ( probably telling others and saying to you, male, privacy does not exists) As a fuck up i intend, feeling anxious or anything that impedes you to have sex with said escort.

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sunkized · 2021-10-31T14:49:25+00:00

Holy! That pig woman experiment is hilarious.

passepar2t · 2021-10-31T15:01:17+00:00

No they don't, what planet are you from?

Hoopy223 · 2021-10-31T16:59:18+00:00

Eh theres someone for everyone.

Plenty of hookers are married lol. The girls at Mustang Ranch type places for example. Several years ago I knew a girl who had sex with a different guy every month via Tinder. Then she got fat and married a friend of mine who has two other baby mamas.

WhoRoger · 2021-10-31T18:06:09+00:00

I think you're not wrong.

redback-spider · 2021-10-31T18:08:20+00:00

it has nothing to do with beeing intimidated.
I agree in one way, a professional prostitute is probably STD tested, that makes her less risky. Now for rich man they might think she will not cheat because she has the money, and that seems to motivate her... so I can see the apeel, but the difference is not that big.

yungthrowaway97 · 2021-10-31T18:10:34+00:00

Neither.

vanillapopsicle · 2021-10-31T18:35:02+00:00

That’s… not why men don’t want to date HBC women.

M3taBuster · 2021-10-31T18:35:56+00:00

As a man, I disagree. If I had to choose between an escort and a woman who slept around on Tinder, gun to my head... I'd take the bullet. Unironically.

meme_lords_unite · 2021-10-31T18:44:02+00:00

No... I wouldn't. No man would. Do you see how difficult it is for porn stars to find relationships? Men don't want sex workers.

AbuJavascript · 2021-10-31T18:46:16+00:00

I agree - I'd rather date a reformed escort who begrudgingly had to satisfy a bunch of ugly men, probably due to an extreme circumstance out of her control, than a woman who chose to become a groupie for a multiple looks-Chads on tinder.

LeaveThisPlanet · 2021-10-31T19:34:23+00:00

Why would anyone, male or female, care about their sexual past?

Were we together back then? No. Can I change it? No. Is it my business what she or he did when they didn't even know I existed? No.

As long as we are talking about consensual, adult sex, I don't give a fuck what he or she did before we even met eachother. That's her or his business, not mine. What matters is how things are between us now, in the present. This obsession with the past, as a previous commenter said, is lunacy.

ExtraBurdensomeCount · 2021-10-31T19:54:01+00:00

I'd also add that escorts by virtue of their jobs escorts are generally highly interesting people who've seen a lot of things and have a better understanding of how the world works relative to your average Tinderella. You can probably easily hold long engaging conversations with high class escorts you couldn't with the sort of people you can pull off Tinder. Another reason to go for her.

Lezonidas · 2021-10-31T20:26:13+00:00

I would date neither, but if I had to choose I'd choose the Tinder girl

Ohms2North · 2021-10-31T21:13:59+00:00

Fuck no. I know. A guy who mostly slept with prostitutes. Got used to the way they would behave adoringly towards him abs always be up for sex. When he got married, he couldn’t deal with his wife disagreeing with him or turning him down for sex.

Taipanshimshon · 2021-10-31T21:46:14+00:00

What men are you talking to?

ragman75 · 2021-10-31T21:52:16+00:00

Its not about fucking up or down, its about the fact that the tinder girl is always a girl that everyone could have, but with the escort as soon as she is with you and has stopped escorting she is no longer a girl that everyone can have.

SirTruffleberry · 2021-10-31T21:53:24+00:00

I kinda find a high "relationship count" intimidating. X dudes failed to keep her so what are my chances?

Apprehensive_Boat_70 · 2021-10-31T22:20:22+00:00

I seriously discourage any guy to do that, but if we compare, at least the escort is honest about who she is and what shes seeking out of you, and you know she is on and about so it doesnt matter, (remember that the majority of escorts do not offer sexual services)

Now If i had to pick between the two, I would rather stay alone, both are hazardous for your mental well being IMO.

ffandyy · 2021-11-01T00:03:32+00:00

Haha this is bullshit

hi_and_fuck_you · 2021-11-01T00:26:43+00:00

I would not date either one of them. It's a toss up between who is the least effort for fucking though.

Thick-Woodpecker-369 · 2021-11-01T00:48:56+00:00

No ill fuck an escort and tinder hoe but ill date someone with low body count

RDelbson · 2021-11-01T03:02:10+00:00

I disagree. An escort that has slept with X men is different than woman who slept with X men off of tinder in that the sex the escort had was emotionless, unfulfilling, and detached from herself. That's not true for the tinder woman.

They're both bad. I don't think the escort is somehow better.

Prize-Thought-4205 · 2021-11-01T03:02:28+00:00

Most men I’ve met are absolutely appalled by the idea of dating an escort or a stripper, some even have gripes & shame about having to sleep with them to get their urge off. Then again I guess the grass is always greener for men, when they do get sex but it’s from average or ugly women they obsess about how they aren’t having sexy with actually attractive women & it gives them an inferiority complex where they only care if the women is like 8/10 or better

kblkbl165 · 2021-11-01T03:43:27+00:00

I'm a man and not only I completely disagree but I also think it's pretty telling of a man's view on sex in a relationship as a physical and selfish task rather than something more intimate.

I'd have no issues dating an escort but I would be more inclined to dating a regular woman, even if she had a comparable N count to the escort.

The reasoning?

In the real world most relationships start casual.

There's literally zero couples I know, outside of highschool sweethearts, who didn't hook up for extended periods of time before getting serious. Only in these subs do I see these tales of women dating below what they're used to just to settle down. Only in these subs you guys need to force these stereotypes where every attractive dude has to be a douche who only sees women as "cumbuckets". You can be into casual sex and be attractive without being demeaning, degrading or pretending to want something more. If both are on Tinder why's she viewed as a cumbucket but he's not viewed as a meat dildo? Both are being used consensually. And IDK about you but I still have standards on Tinder.

Most handsome men I know are in well paying jobs and spent most of their lives in LTRs.

Not only that but it's been proven by countless studies that both women and men in general date "in their own level".

It must be truly distressing to live your whole lives under the shadow of these hypothetical Chads, looming around and banging/being the one that got away from all women you ever develop an interest for. How does it feel to never feel good enough compared to a dude you've never met? IMHO that's the mindset that sets Chads apart from Betas, in TRP lingo.

With all that said, I'm a high count man so it would be hypocritical to judge a high count woman. Having a more liberal view on casual sex doesn't mean relationship sex is meaningless. IMO there's a clear difference between casual sex and intimate sex with someone you love. Men and women have physical urges but both are also able to have deeper emotional connections through sex with someone you love.

For the same reasons I wouldn't mind dating an escort, but I wouldn't prefer one simply because they're open to paid sex.

Playful_Art_5364 · 2021-11-01T04:22:32+00:00

No sane man would do that.

Mys_Atm · 2021-11-01T06:17:36+00:00

It is embarrassing and complicated to date a local sex market star who has ex-partners on every street ...if we are looking for serious relationships ...it's normal attitude for both "normal" men and women

I don't understand what's strange about that ..

heuristic-dish · 2021-11-01T11:57:49+00:00

Who the fuck are “Men”? How do you know so much about them..? Because you choose to make yourself the spokesman, like a freaking politician represents a constituency. Speak to what you know=your own prejudices.

MisterJose · 2021-11-01T16:10:02+00:00

I'm a man, and no I wouldn't.

roland_brice · 2021-11-01T18:17:12+00:00

I hooked up with a very attractive girls with a stinky vagina. She was complaining before we met about how women are judged for their smells and that female beauty standards are insane. Lo and behold, when I fucked her, she stank horribly. She was cute and definitely drew lots of male attention, but her smell fucked me up

Fit-Photograph1646 · 2021-11-01T23:59:31+00:00

In med school, I pretty much had zero time to game and work on my looks. So I'd hire escorts.

Now that I just ended a relationship I can honestly say I have zero reason to get married at this point. So many beautiful escorts and I don't have to waste time seducing and flirting like a high-schooler.

I say if you got the money just do it. Some men's dads teach them the point of life is to fuck early and then focus on your career. Mine only taught me the point of life is to make money so I became clueless around women until my mid 20s

social_mule · 2021-11-01T23:59:55+00:00

I can't speak for other men but back in my dating days there's no way in hell I would have had a relationship with a hooker. With any sex worker for that matter be she a stripper, hooker, porn actress etc.

I have heard other men brag about dating strippers and fantasize about dating porn actresses though so you may be on to something.

manfrom-nantucket · 2021-11-02T16:24:26+00:00

I wouldn't date either. Fuck them, pay them and leave.

black_snake_m0an · 2021-11-02T19:00:55+00:00

A woman who fucked 5 "Chads" off of Tinder is going to be much more threatening than the equivalent woman who had 5 relationships or had 5 clients as an escort.

But an escort will have way more clients and a higher body count than a Tinder slut. So if Tinder girl fucked 10 chads, the escort has fucked 100s of men.

Besides, the tinder girl fucking the chads probably wanted a relationship with them and didn't get it. She probably didn't think she was signing up for what would turn out to be a one night stand.

ToBeFair91 · 2021-11-04T17:56:15+00:00

If it was either or, I'd rather date an escort because at the very least there was a reason for it and they're probably way better in bed, being a massive slut on tinder is just reckless, especially if they're from small towns.

HandsomePrivilege · 2021-11-11T12:49:14+00:00

Nah. Just fuck both but never date either.

SonicBackScratcher · 2021-10-31T19:05:47+00:00

Men's reluctance to date women with high body counts isn't about "slut-shaming", it's about not wanting to feel like they're being settled for.

Maybe some men, but I personally would rather date a tinder slut than a prostitute. My reasoning is two fold. I'd be less willing to trust a prostitute to be really into me or not do to a part of her life was basically catering to that in men. I'd have doubts.

Another factor is something I told my wife a LONG LONG time ago in our relationship. Sex is not to be weaponized. Its not a "if you do this I'll fuck you" or "you didn't do this so no sex" type of dynamic allowed. A tinder slut just might really like sex, and I'd rather that.

Title	Men would rather date an escort than date a woman who slept around on Tinder
Author	PerceptionTasty1495
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Date	October 31, 2021 12:51 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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