It’s 2024. “Go to the gym” and “be confident and maintain frame” is the new “buy her flowers and hold open doors”

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gymrattttz · 2024-07-06T17:33:37+00:00

I just go to the gym because I'm addicted 😅

MongoBobalossus · 2024-07-06T17:31:28+00:00

Do whatever you need to become the best, most marketable version of you. Gym, beard, tattoos, carrying a lil coke…whatever it takes.

giveuporfindaway · 2024-07-06T17:36:43+00:00

And for the record there's also muscle inflation. Most women don't even realize that guys who they think are "average" have busted their ass in a gym for 1~2 years.

Valuable-Marzipan761 · 2024-07-06T17:54:27+00:00

No-one's going to care about your bear or tattoos if you're fat or scrawny.

DissociativeRuin · 2024-07-06T20:45:36+00:00

If you're a man assume that no woman will ever love you and assume you will live your entire life alone.

Then from that mindset, cull the decadent aspects away.

Now, think about what will make you the strongest happiest version of yourself.

Build in to that, and if a woman does come along just take notice if she is worth the risk or not.

Most men don't have enough experience with women to know their game or how to play it so as soon as a woman is nice and smiles they will crumble, but rest assured you're not the first person she's charmed and there will be more after you.

You're just a resource to be exploited in a woman's eyes. Cope however you want with that it's just biolgical fact. She raises your kids, you give her support and resources, that's the deal.

Remove the deal and you've still got the exploitative solipsism. It's not going anywhere.

DumbWordsmith · 2024-07-06T18:14:10+00:00

That's what gets you raw attraction from women this day in age.

So? How's it outdated?

Staying strong and healthy, building confidence through achievement, and developing a strong sense of self will improve your life. There's no downside. Doing these things will open more doors for you and give you more opportunities to enjoy your life to the fullest.

If you seek any type of validation from the modern 304 — whether it's the trad 304 or the feminist 304 — that's 100% on you. They're broken junkies.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-07-06T17:51:18+00:00

“I really wouldn’t like it if my BF was in better shape” -no one.

AMDisappointment · 2024-07-06T18:24:25+00:00

It's not for getting women, it's for you.

Buying flowers and holding open doors? Anyone can do that. Barely any effort at all.

Looking like you lift? Takes a lot more effort and people will notice.

RatchedAngle · 2024-07-06T19:13:30+00:00

The goal is for men to pursue self-improvement that isn’t based solely on impressing women. You should go to the gym because it’s good for you.

So many men do things to get women. Once you have a woman, your brain shuts down because you no longer have any motivation to do anything. You’ve achieved your sole purpose in life, so you become a boring aimless bot that relies on your girlfriend wife to tell you what to do (beyond the most bare minimum survival).

Women find this shit unattractive. The only reason drug dealers and criminals get so many women is because they have shit going on besides chasing after women. They have ambition. They have goals beyond “me want woman.”

Men will hear women scream at the top of our lungs “become a better person, don’t exist solely to get a woman” and men will still say “but how will that get me laid?”

Spread-Em-Plz · 2024-07-06T18:05:15+00:00

Nah, muscles are great to have; those pictures get me more likes than I’d have without them, and more general attention from women

Like obviously they’re not some absolute magic but uh…a buff average dude or slightly above average dude is going to outdo his flabby-physiqued counterparts

Hell, even a buff dude who’s kinda busted, has somewhat more of a chance

Proudvow · 2024-07-06T18:50:34+00:00

The beard thing depends. I go from overshadowed to invisible when I have any type of beard.

Professional_Chair28 · 2024-07-06T17:17:55+00:00

Wasn’t the ‘go to the gym and get confident’ just general advice for self-improvement?

Like a regular work out routine gives your body endorphins which are a necessary feel-good chemical to feel happy, stable and content in your general life. I thought that was the point of that advice..

Either way I agree both pieces of advices are too obvious and represent a minimum of human courtesy that I also find them dumb when shared as magic dating advice.

Lovers691 · 2024-07-06T21:15:43+00:00

Height, beard, face, tattoos and emotional detatchment.

Beard and tattoos, lol. It's face, height, personality for raw attraction, beard and tattoos is just lol

Electrical_Novel1156 · 2024-07-06T21:26:08+00:00

if you guys think being fat will help get laid more than being lean then power to you. it's not going to save a genetic reject, but most guys who have "bad faces" usually just have too much fat in them and look markedly better when they've leaned out enough.

blarginfajiblenochib · 2024-07-06T18:40:25+00:00

Height, beard, face, tattoos and emotional detatchment. That's what gets you raw attraction from women this day and age.

Completely disagree with this; being in shape will always be more attractive than being out of shape. Women are put off when guys go overboard and have nothing else to offer because the gym is their only activity outside of work/school.

januaryphilosopher · 2024-07-06T17:46:51+00:00

There is great benefit in being fit and healthy. You will feel better, live longer and get sick less.

Good_Result2787 · 2024-07-06T17:30:10+00:00

I always thought this was just basic secondary advice to put improvements on top of what you already had naturally, not that gains at the gym would override everything else you listed and suddenly inspire "raw attraction".

daddysgotanew · 2024-07-06T19:35:07+00:00

Agreed. No one gives a fuck about your “frame” if you’re a lackey. The only regular types of men that I see get attention from women despite a mediocre salary are cops. Most of them are stereotypically masculine, work out, and have societally granted power on a wide scale.

Women don’t care if you are “head of sales” at XYZ corp, that isn’t sexy.

holyskillet · 2024-07-06T20:51:54+00:00

No one cares about your emotional detachment if they barely notice your existence in the first place. Tattoos or beard can either make you look attractive or sloppy depending on what you look like, this is not even a good blanket prescription

LiftSushiDallas · 2024-07-06T18:27:17+00:00

Tell me you can't build muscle without telling me.

raisedonthemoon · 2024-07-06T18:02:07+00:00

You should do things because you want to do them. You should work out because it's good for you. You should be confident because it's a good way to move through life and a good place from which to make decisions. You should get women flowers for whom you want to get flowers. Improving yourself is never bad advice because it's good to grow as a person, but the idea that there's one dating strategy that will work 100% of the time, in exactly the same way, for 100% of people, is absurd. Very few things in life work that way.

DarayRaven · 2024-07-06T17:39:54+00:00

Flowers still work if your running granny game

Ok-Dust-4156 · 2024-07-06T17:39:40+00:00

Buying flowers still works better than gym.

Ok_Landscape_592 · 2024-07-06T19:09:11+00:00

Except...muscles and confidence help. Women love and stare at muscles constantly as long as he's not a freak. A lot of women say they don't care about muscles, disregard this and see where their eyes travel and what they do.

The fact that you might have to work harder than someone who was born taller or better looking doesn't negate this.

kvakerok_v2 · 2024-07-06T20:08:47+00:00

Muscles have literally zero value beyond acting as an accessory to an already imuteable traits.

Bro, just tell us the truth, what planet are you from? Because you're either an alien or you haven't left your parents' basement since puberty.

Green-Quantity1032 · 2024-07-07T01:04:04+00:00

Being fit and decently-muscled definitely helps a lot.

My shoulders and back really got a good shape lately.

But yeah if you don't look good, are short and have a lackluster hairline don't expect girls to be all over you

Funstands4Funger · 2024-07-07T01:19:20+00:00

I know I don’t speak for all women, but I prefer to get flowers and have a gentleman for a boyfriend, but men are afraid of being taken advantage of or being made fun of (and rightfully so with the way social media is used). So I aim for the second best option which is a guy I’m attracted to who seems like a good person.

antutroll · 2024-07-07T01:59:24+00:00

Gym + having self confidence helps in general and it's better than nothing

grillopie · 2024-07-07T02:01:19+00:00

if you think emotional detachment is what works, you’re basically only going to get a small and specific subset of women, the kind that are needy, clingy, and insecure.

Fabulous_HonestTea · 2024-07-06T17:49:57+00:00

Height

Yes.

beard

No.

face

Yes.

tattoos

No.

emotional detatchment

No.

Muscles

No.

Tall, lean, handsome. That’s all they want. Beards are disgusting, tattoos are irrelevant, and muscles only matter to men, not a single woman can name a single bodybuilder.

chelco95 · 2024-07-06T18:28:59+00:00

Why is no one saying : smile. Seriously. I have never been able to get with someone without smiling

Odd-Fun-9557 · 2024-07-06T17:41:18+00:00

Everyone gets go to the gym and be more confident as a remedy for difficulty dating . Personal advice go to therapy and invest in a hobby

kvakerok_v2 · 2024-07-06T21:01:20+00:00

Moms at my kids' daycare giggle, blush, and thank me when I hold the door for them.

SaBahRub · 2024-07-06T21:30:16+00:00

No, it’s “talk to people”

wtknight · 2024-07-06T22:27:27+00:00

OP, please make a small edit in order to bring up the AutoModerator.

Immediate-School-952 · 2024-07-06T20:32:42+00:00

Emphasize height, nothing else matters if you're under 6 feet I Know that because as a guy friend of many women the way they talk about short men like me is just....well y'all know

lastoflast67 · 2024-07-07T00:26:26+00:00

here we go more black pill nonsense

Title	It’s 2024. “Go to the gym” and “be confident and maintain frame” is the new “buy her flowers and hold open doors”
Author	Cjaylyle
Upvotes	39
Comments	150
Date	July 6, 2024 5:02 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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