Why are you a red piller ?

Puzzleheaded_Card_71 · 2025-01-04T18:34:23+00:00

I believe many men become red pilled after poor experiences being blue pilled. Fact is most men are average and the blue pill was a good strategy for an average man to find a woman - when men were needed.

For me, in past relationships when I was blue pilled I kept doing more and more, sacrificing more, accepting so many red flags because I shouldn’t judge. Ended up cheated on, or she left when I stopped the one sided sacrificing.

So took a deep breathe and started reading and found TRP which connected the dots on everything I had experienced and been thinking. Once you do, you see how almost completely woman-biased everything this here when it comes to relationships and societal matters.

It’s just telling men reality stripped of delusion. Looks, money and status matter. Maximize yourself if you want a better outcome with women. You aren’t a broken man that is selfish, you have every right to prioritize your wants and needs as women will happily do that and take what you give.

I wish I had it when I was young. I look back with embarrassment at how much I tolerated because I assumed women were good, sweet, and loving.

Zabadoodude · 2025-01-04T19:34:03+00:00

The redpill just aligns most closely with what I've observed in real life. I didn't get redpilled, I came to similar conclusions myself by dating and observing others.

MisterFunnyShoes · 2025-01-04T09:45:29+00:00

I’m not here for any “movement” or community. Based on what I observe, the descriptions laid out in TRP seem to be accurate to reality.

DzejSiDi · 2025-01-04T13:00:01+00:00

I decided to search information on the internet how to get girls, best from community of tryhards in that regard. Found TRP, everything made sense.

Till this day I've found no alternative model that is coherent and make any sense. Either way you're clueless and talk shit OR you have like 90% overlap with redpill without stating its name once.

edjohn88 · 2025-01-04T13:58:05+00:00

It’s called red pill because it means opening your eyes (like in the matrix). Once you hear it you can’t unhear it. For better or for worse…

LoopyPro · 2025-01-04T10:57:20+00:00

I got out of a LTR, dating got more difficult. I went looking for answers.

Knowing the reality, no matter how harsh, ultimately gave me clarity and peace of mind. Yes, it was a bitter pill to swallow, a truth bomb. But a game plan based in reality will not leave me frustrated and wondering why things don't work out. After applying RP, I had much more success in dating.

Most_Read_1330 · 2025-01-05T02:09:08+00:00

Because I'm not the 666 chad and want to learn how to attract women. "Be yourself " hasn't worked. It gives the best explanation of what is going on.

AreOut · 2025-01-04T11:06:38+00:00

well I thought there was something odd with me, but it just happened I was average looking and average earning, I have vastly improved both and voila my personality is suddenly attractive to women hah

SillyMushroomTip · 2025-01-04T12:15:13+00:00

I got cheated on by all my long term relationship (4 in total lasting over 2+ years each) honestly got tired of getting my heart broke and played around with. Looked into the red pill community and it was a eureka moment.

Love is a lie and society keeps Men in the dark

DiligentRope · 2025-01-04T10:03:15+00:00

RP is a praxeology not an ideology, meaning it just fundamentally explains how the world works. There are a number of communities surrounding this reality that have different methods for achieving whatever goal they choose.

In that sense, I'm not a "red piller", but a man that's been red pilled, shown how the world works when it comes to relationship dynamics.

Most people's idea of RP is just a caricature based on a few individuals. Not everyone who's RP is about spinning plates and gaming women.

weenieandthebutt · 2025-01-04T11:33:56+00:00

I started off as an awkward, autistic incel. Accidentally stumbled upon the community, everything just sort of made sense and then I began seeing results and female sexual behaviour for what it was.

Even if you try to disengage, you'll witness the same AF/BB paradigm whether it's from recent relationships to even your closest female friends phoning you up for advice on a guy. Modern dating is a humiliating ritual for the average man.

abaxeron · 2025-01-04T13:35:12+00:00

Started with observing divorce of my parents. Proceeded with getting cheated on. Nothing unusual.

LaloTwinsDa2nd · 2025-01-04T20:43:36+00:00

I’d bet my house on the evopsych worldview

The sexy son hypothesis, until I’m presented with contradictory evidence, stands as gospel to me.

nnuunn · 2025-01-05T06:46:19+00:00

I used to be a "nice guy" who could never actually get a gf, and bluepilled advice always had me doubling down on my niceness. Only the red pill has been helpful for actually getting results in my romantic life.

leosandlattes · 2025-01-04T06:28:35+00:00

I used to be a weird fat girl who struggled to interact with men. Then I found RPW and I feel like it’s improved me, my appearance, my self confidence, girl game, my relationships.

Aside from this I feel like most things within the Red Pill make sense. I don’t know if it’s the “best” to believe in since it’s really a case by case thing, but it can certainly help.

Cactus2711 · 2025-01-04T22:03:00+00:00

RP is the raw, brutal truth about what really attracts women that they will never admit to. That’s why they hate it. Their secrets have been spilled

No-Rough-7390 · 2025-01-04T15:32:47+00:00

The life I had when I was single and dating a lot non-exclusively compared to my previous LTR already had shown me a lot of the inner workings of RP ideals before I even knew what it was.

cathatesrudy · 2025-01-06T00:41:56+00:00

Since you didn’t get a ton of responses from this side figured I’d throw my $.02 in even if it’s been a day since you asked…

The women I grew up observing were all very modern, “pants wearing” women who wanted to be equal to or more in charge of everything in their relationships. And all of them were MISERABLE. They were naggers, cajolers, and monkey branchers. And they were all constantly stressed. Their men were constantly harried and cowed and frequently acted out in retaliation. Most of these relationships lasted less than ten years before going up in flames. (To be fair three of these relationships were my mother)

I didn’t know WHAT they were doing so wrong so consistently but I knew I was gonna do my damndest not to wind up making the same mistakes. The biggest takeaway I had (from the multiple divorces I got to be party to) was that it pissed me off that people made marriage vows then didn’t uphold their word. So when I got married I knew that, barring some really extreme case, it was going to be for life on my end which helped get us to where we are… simple tenacity, but that’s not really the point of my response lol

We struggled for several years. I grew up a feminist, and a know-it-all, and due to a lot of early conditioning I wanted to make lots of important decisions. Basically I spent years emasculating the hell out of a really solid man, and I got damn lucky he stuck with my shit til I got it together.

Somewhere around 5 years ago I started to kind of realize that things weren’t great. Luckily because I take my marriage vows seriously, I decided to look at ways to fix it that didn’t involve cutting ties. The search for fixing things led me to RPW through relationship self help guides like Men are from Mars/Women are from Venus, and the Surrendered Wife. Learning about fundamental differences in how most men and most women both view the world and relationships and settling into the philosophy that the only person you can change is yourself really rocked my shit, but got me on track to turn my whole entire life around.

My relationship is leaps and bounds better than I ever could have dreamed it would be, it’s like honeymoon phase 24/7. And an unexpected bonus is that the mental health struggles that plagued me since I was a small child are also virtually vanished since reframing how I relate to the world in my newly embraced femininity.

Granted, my husband is not hardcore TRP, but he recognizes some of the truths of it and we get into ruminating on the things that failed for so many of the couples we both grew up observing, and 95% of the time theory goes “I told you so”

just_a_place · 2025-01-05T09:02:39+00:00

Because I know the truth and can't live in denial.

The Red Pill is a metaphor, NOT a "movement." It is not something to be believed in, calling it that sounds cringe as fuck. It is not something that is meant to improve your life. At this point I have to ask you now: do you even have a clue what the Red Pill means or what it's a symbol of?

Acceptable-Truck3803 · 2025-01-04T15:47:14+00:00

There is no "movement" however your comments and your communication style appears to be of someone who is 12 years old. sounds like you are too young for reddit.

LawfulnessSuper5091 · 2025-01-05T01:17:12+00:00

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Slutty_Mudd · 2025-01-06T18:31:04+00:00

I was RP for a while, and probably still hold some bias, so I'll do my explain why.

High School was rough for me. I was relatively attractive, I would say a solid 6ish, 6.5 on a good day. I was/am 6ft, average looking face, was in great shape (was bordering on a 6 pack), played football and baseball, and had great grades. I was a little awkward, sure, like every other kid in high school, but I would confidently say that I had much more developed social skills that anyone else at that age (15-18). Nowhere near perfect, but I was definitely at least a little better than average. Yet, out of the probably 100 girls I asked out, 1 said yes, in my senior year (she ended up cheating on me and kinda went down a darker path, but that's a whole other story). There were maybe 200 in my class. Now, I am not entitled to anyone or their time, but statistically I should have gotten at least a few more right? I was not looking outside of my 'level' so to speak so I wasn't really sure why this was so hard for me. A couple of my friends had no problem getting dates, and he was objectively worse than me in every metric I listed above (He's a super good friend and I still hang out with him today, but again, objectively).

So I turned to the internet to see if there was an explanation, and I got RP content, and it kinda made sense. My friend started smoking weed in high school and rode a motorcycle (once he was 16) to school. Other guys who seemed to attract women were going to the beach and/or ditching class. I tended to go to a friend's house to hang out in my free time, or the mall, or snowboarding in the winter (never skipped class though). I wasn't particularly 'dangerous' or 'exciting' so I didn't get much success.

It actually got worse when I went to college, because I went to an engineering school, where the guy to girl ratio was like 4:1 at best. I drove an old but very reliable car, didn't have a ton of money, and wasn't part of a fraternity or something so there was nothing that made me stand out at all, I was just another face of the hundreds of men they saw everyday on campus. It was made worse when I saw quite a few women (and several friends) completely embrace this situation, jumping from hookup to hookup, some were in poly relationships, it was just chaos and none of it appealed to me. This was a small minority of women, but because there were so few women at my college at all, it became very common gossip. It just made me opt out of dating completely by my senior year in college.

All in all I think it gave me a much more realistic world view, but it didn't really like 'improve my life' in anyway. I learned that a lot of women want a little excitement in a relationship, being a good man on my own just won't be enough, and that a decent number of women just aren't that interested in a stable relationship with a good man at my age (23 currently). I know that RP likes to talk about 'body count' and such, and while I do think there is a lot more nuance to the whole dating scene, there is a grain of truth to what they are saying, because I wouldn't want to marry any of those 'party' or 'poly' women I met/knew in college, even if they claimed to be 'changed' or 'were in a bad place'.

chocobolamo · 2025-01-09T15:54:19+00:00

frankly: it works and correct describes female behavior and how males should act. I validated its correctness through experiment with the women I was dating and female friends in my life. Women are completely unaware of how they behave in ways that validate the red pill. I went from being a turbo virgin, to having old female friends and old coworkers asking me out when I already had a partner. Went from being unable to get a first date for years on dating apps (getting ghosted repeatedly, dead end convos, no date acceptance) to sending a coffee emoji and getting yes and prompt;y second date fucks at the girls place. Went from being unable to get a girl out to coffee to being invited into their homes and made dinner just so these women could fuck me. Invisible to king treatment.

The red pill accurately describes human nature, and was a tremendously positive influence on my life. From career to love life.

I went from single in my early 30s to having a wonderful partner. The red pill taught me how her psychology works, this lets me be the man she needs and wants, while also having strong boundaries. For instance she says arguing with me turns her on, because I know all the manipulative games and don't allow it. I cannot be manipulated, I cannot be gaslight, I do not accept poor behavior and it drives her wild (esp down there). It gave me a level of understanding that made life, well, easy. I am now very content, nothing is a surprise, and I can live life on easy mode. Going through the transition was very traumatic but I am better for it in every way.

I know all the IOI's, so for instance I knew with my current partner that I didn't have to do anything. I saw her body language open up during the first few minutes of our coffee date and I knew it was on. The next day she was straddling me on the couch.

People thing the red pill is just pick up or hating on marriage. That's only the game pillar and thats some of the harsher truths about the world we live in. The red pill is also the understanding of attraction, how our society functions, what the expecations are for men and women, what traits good men and women show, etc. Being red pilled raises you up so far beyond your forefathers that its pretty indescribable. My children and their children will benefit greatly from this knowledge in their lives - as all others remain blissfully unaware of the world around them.. Being easily toyed with, manipulated, used by others. Not me. I learned :)

Most_Read_1330 · 2025-03-22T07:19:30+00:00

To understand the truth about what women are attracted to

PracticalControl2179 · 2025-01-04T07:33:49+00:00

I believe in what TRP men say about men, especially red pill men.

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Title	Why are you a red piller ?
Author	zyex12
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Date	January 4, 2025 5:43 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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