The red pill works and I'm disgusted.

TheOuterRing · 2015-09-06T19:39:04+00:00

You gotta look for women outside of the hookup culture.

No woman found on Tinder will be worth any LTR time.

Join a sport. Take a dance lesson. Eye a few girls at the gym that you can talk to. Find a new hobby. Join a class. Keep yourself out there, but do it in environments where people aren't solely there to get laid.

Visit Red Pill Women. This will help your cynicism and let you realize that not all women are sociopaths/liars/whores/human degenerates. They are still AWALT and emotional, but not all of them will rip your soul out and eat it for breakfast.

Think of it this way - Red Pill often does field reports that are so negative, that I wouldn't blame any guy that joins a monastery after spending too much time here. But realize why...it's because they are all plating. Finding girls on Tinder. Immediately trying to screw the woman instead of building anything.

Of course that's going to bring out negative characteristics of a woman. Not many report on the good because if they did, they'd get ridiculed for putting a woman on a pedestal/thinking she's a unicorn/told immediately she will change and become a bitch just because she has a vagina. So no one posts positive reports here, because this sub is becoming a circle jerk of agreeing how awful women are and how they are only good for sex. And if anyone posts anything other than that, they are ostracized.

Sound familiar? It's what feminists did before the feminazi movement. They sat around talking about how awful men are. About how they hate how much of a pig all men are. About how no man can commit, because "it's in his genes to whore around."

Don't buy into the negativity. Find a truth to the words, weed out the cynical opinions, and come to a neutrality instead. Take away what works no matter how you apply it - building charm, learning about AWALT, learning about hamstering, learning about maintaining frame - and use those tools however you like. The whole point of RP is to become aware that women are different then men. RP studies and accepts those differences, which helps with the dating strategy. Since a lot of guys are currently targeting college women who literally party their pants off, a lot of negativity has made its way into this sub.

MattyAnon · 2015-09-06T20:54:54+00:00

courtesy of u/Whisper:

Denial: "Women aren't like that! They're people just like everyone else! Treat them all as individuals, and you're sure to find the right one!"

Anger: "WTF! Bitches are all like this! They have no honour, no loyalty, and they don't really love anyone but themselves! Fucking cunts!"

Bargaining: "If I work real hard and learn all the pickup moves, then at least I'll get laid."

Depression: "Getting laid by shallow, obnoxious women has become dull and unrewarding. And there's no sense looking for a unicorn. Maybe I'll just be MGTOW for a while."

Acceptance: "Women aren't bad. My expectations of them, and theirs of me, were based on faulty premises. They are creatures of instinct, just like I am... but of different instincts. If I learn what those instincts are, and teach them about mine, we can develop realistic expectations of each other and get along just fine."

Sdom1 · 2015-09-07T02:26:14+00:00

JESUS, you are fucking melodramatic. The light inside of you is extinguished? You can read peoples' hormone levels?

You just need to calm the fuck down. From your descriptions, you are attracting girls who like to be played, and then turning all mushy on them. You're looking for love in all the wrong places, in other words. If you want a codependent type, then look for that.

iammercury · 2015-09-06T21:02:02+00:00

A "natural psychologist"?

That's not a real thing, I read it as "opinionated with no education to back it up".

AngrySmartass · 2015-09-06T19:04:31+00:00

Mate, where are you getting them? Tinder, bars and clubs? NO SHIT, they only want sex. Try the gym, the local library, a salsa course, a spinning class I don't care, but that's where that cute, lovable, innocent, but still lusty potential girlfriend is waiting for you.

Also, you're taking shit too seriously. Life isn't all colorful, accept reality. You make it way darker than it is.

monsieurhire2 · 2015-09-06T18:22:42+00:00

"Looks aren't enough for me anymore. I will now be judging women based on their personalities as well as looks."

It's almost like nobody read any fairytales or myths growing up.

OF COURSE LOOKS AREN'T ENOUGH!

Looks are a minimum, provided you are not Quasimodo yourself of course.

couid · 2015-09-06T19:10:03+00:00

I'm a natural psychologist. I can read people's emotional states, hormonal levels, reasons behind their intentions, the intentions behind the intentions- EVERYTHING about them. Even the things they themselves don't know (Like what the actual reason is behind a set of behaviors, rather than just the feels that drive the action).

You sound deluded to be honest.

LCSullaF · 2015-09-06T19:59:26+00:00

That's fair. I'm 6'3" and 200 lbs. I can grow an extremely manly beard, and I'm considered tall dark and handsome. I'm extremely intelligent- make over 6 figures (Albeit I never talk about it) I invest, have hobbies, I'm an inventor, and otherwise get out every single day. I drive a truck and I'm what a woman otherwise would want commitment from. On the looks scale I'm considered a 9.

No, I'm genuinely considering suicide every single day right now. I'm weighted towards death. Edit: I need love in my life, loneliness is drab.

I'm going be straight with you. You sound like a fucking faggot. I'm on a new account but from the old redpill guard.

When my grandfather was 19, he was fighting the Japanese to the death on Guadalcanal. He was wounded twice, and clinging onto life. The only thing in this world that he wanted was to get home and live the rest of his life in peace and solitude.

You're suicidal because you pick up sluts and discover that they don't love you. AWALT but some are definitely better than others.

Get it together man, and use your great intellect to move your life forward.

redpillbanana · 2015-09-06T19:39:49+00:00

"Don't talk to me, if I get randomly horny again I'll text you, til then."

Pure contempt.

stonepimpletilists · 2015-09-06T18:09:24+00:00

Build your own frame. You anger now is because the world doesn't work like you thought, and your ego is hurt... That's fine, it's normal, just get your own frame and some outcome independence, and you'll be fine.

Besides, the humble bragging is kinds of weak

Peow_peow · 2015-09-06T22:24:34+00:00

I dont see the issue here.

You are doing the exact same thing to these girls that they are doing to you.

You fucked 5 girls in 5 days, then you change you mind and you expect everything to shift?

You attract what you are man.

Maybe you have to change your approach.

PetrolFlavored · 2015-09-07T00:49:55+00:00

10/10 on the #humblebrag scale, well done mate.

clam61 · 2015-09-06T19:29:37+00:00

Funny. You've become Chad but you don't want to be. I have the same problem too. Girls automatically assume I am a player that will never settle down before even talking to me. I can get some hot chicks to fuck me, but most I would say are scared of being pumped and dumped (which they assume would happen). Many will flirt and even date me, but they will flat out tell me they are scared and I am trouble.

Just to illustrate the type of person I was. I got married at 25. I wanted kids etc. I got divorced, but that wasn't what changed me. It was dating after the divorce. Prior to that I had little experience with women.

A few years ago I could not even fathom dating multiple girls at the same time. Even if it was just casual dating with nothing physical, multiple girls was so foreign to me.

Now at my peak, I fucked 3 different girls for the first time in one day like it was nothing.

It's ironic that these girls turned me into the person I am today.

SilentAlpha · 2015-09-06T23:20:18+00:00

There is something about this post that seems too...'expected'.

I'm not going to say its not true. But.....

Avedas · 2015-09-06T18:26:41+00:00

Chasing relationships is pretty lame in general.

SadKuntVegeta · 2015-09-06T18:17:47+00:00

I feel as though these field reports should include your stats. (i.e. job, income, status, height, physique, hell even a picture of your face.) I know that people aren't going to start doing this, but that way we would be able to view everything rather than just the game aspect. Seeing all parts of the equation would prove to be more enlightening and helpful than just a sniper of something that might work for guy A but not for guy B, due to variations in looks, status, and innate personality, intellect etc.

-rwsr-xr-x · 2015-09-06T19:33:38+00:00

I'm not playing this game anymore. I'm becoming dark. I'm becoming hateful, and the light inside me is extinguished. I want to find a beautiful person but they don't exist, they're all taken, or they just cannot be found.

You may need to get used to it.

I've been exactly where you are for the last 7 years. I've done the Tinder, OkCupid, Match, Plenty of Fish (95%+ of the profiles on those sites are all fake/bots) route as well as in-person, all with zero luck finding an opposite-gender human with qualities I'm attracted to.

There quite-literally are no worthwhile women around anymore who don't want to manipulate or drain you of your virility, finances or manhood.

It's evolved into a world of Next'ing. You may need to get used to how that works in today's world.

Boise13 · 2015-09-07T01:12:57+00:00

"I feel like there aren't any good women. They're deceptive liars."

This is what your emotional brain is telling you. The truth is that women are just like men, something like 5-10% of them are actually good people. Yes, THAT LOW of a number. Humans are scumbags who are out to get what they want no matter who they hurt in the process- and what they want is usually superficial egotistical bullshit that leads them to supreme mating and alpha mates. I think American people are a little shittier than say....Scandinavian people, but not by a large amount. Just stay put and either get pussy or don't get pussy. I actually chose to quit getting pussy and be single now that Im in my 30s. Pussy getting is a young soul's game; you either put up with the egotism or you don't. I've had my share and now I'm out. I can't stand to be around these "deceptive liars" as you call them. I like the peace here. I've basically gone full Dr. Manhattan.

Whatever you do, don't get married. Just the act of marriage turns you beta.

rKremlin · 2015-09-07T08:19:30+00:00

Where have all the good women gone?

They didnt go anywhere because they never existed. There never were any good women, only good facades and PR.

KyfhoMyoba · 2015-09-06T21:21:26+00:00

The point is that these women won't commit to me.

I [50+M] had a great run in my early 20s racking up a notch count of near 50 in about 18 months. I really wanted a GF, but none of these slores wanted a LTR, and the more I pursued them, the less attracted they became to me.

ilovesunfires · 2015-09-07T02:26:33+00:00

If you naturally understood women's intentions and their intentions behind their intentions you wouldn't be surprised by any of this at all.

Freddy_Fedora · 2015-09-07T14:25:02+00:00

I've been happily with my gf for 18 months. Originally I assumed she was a plate but she was dead serious about commitment. I kept fucking her waiting for her to leave or get bored or bump into another guy but she never did.

Eventually I started spending time with her non sexually and a relationship grew. We met at uni and she is very picky about men. To do this day she is still clingy, which I personally like, that validation and affection is nice.

Its a very easy relationship to be in, but I did have to soften up a bit. I couldn't throw a man tantrum and next her everytime she forgot to wash the dishes, or swallow or something else 20 something men demand.

I never enjoyed the single life and feeling like a predator hunting prey.

LionLegacy · 2015-09-06T23:30:12+00:00

Best advice I can give you is if you want a girl with good values you have to get at them when they are young, the problem is that the age for a non-corrupted girl keeps getting lower and lower in the states to where you would be hard pressed to find an attractive girl 18 or older that hasn't already been with multiple partners.
This is why I plan to go to Europe and just say fuck it and use my looks and game to just slay pussy left and right.
American girls are extremely over entitled and it's 100% the males (albeit beta losers) fault that this is happening

tom_salchichom · 2015-09-07T00:41:42+00:00

I feel like there aren't any good women. They're deceptive liars.

If you dig a little further you'll see that they're self deluded, they believe their own lies, so never fight against them.

With time you will come to enjoy your new knowledge, like the judo master, you'll learn to use that force to your own advantage, and actually even if the anger phase is never 100% gone, the tranquility that comes from knowing "what is happening around" will heavily outweigh being BP and constantly shocked by emotional states and justifying them.

A small warning... also don't believe everything you see here...

leodoestheopposite · 2015-09-07T01:20:16+00:00

A lot of us have experienced that moment of it works and I'm disgusted or a variation of it.

I want to address something you said, specifically "...The point is that these women won't commit to me..." guess what? Give then enough time and one or more of these plates would want to commit to you and you to her. Remember, one of the pillars of TRP is that women are the gatekeepers of sex, and guys are the gatekeepers of relationships.

Yes, even the ones with whom you had a 3some, give them enough time and they will start dreaming about you proposing and them changing their last name, babies etc...

Who you are looking for is the unicorn. I wish you all the best with that.

BluepillProfessor · 2015-09-07T05:53:52+00:00

How can women put these masks up constantly and not be utterly worn down by it?

Solopsism lets them cue up the hamster to protect them from reflecting on the variability of their feels. It is biological.

As for the rest of your objections re: the lying cheating whores that are women?

Yes, AWALT. They are born to be deceptive, right down to the hidden ovulation trick and their (true!) claims to not even notice what days of the month when they slut it up and become hypersexual.

So what?

My assumption was that I could make a bunch of fuck buddies and then they would introduce me and network that way.

Ahh, got it. You are getting by on good looks and an attitude. Women want to enter YOUR world. You don't enter hers. If you want to start out a LTR by adopting her friends and family, prepare for a world of pain.

sundaybrunch11 · 2015-09-07T09:42:22+00:00

From a recent TRP post:

"From the beginning, nothing has been more alien, repugnant, and hostile to woman than truth—her great art is the lie, her highest concern is mere appearance and beauty."

--Nietsche

abdada · 2015-09-06T18:30:09+00:00

You meet women on Tinder or at bars, you get these kind of women.

It is basic -- women who are broken and need constant thrilling attention seek it out.

savedarticles · 2015-09-07T04:23:45+00:00

There is a lot of stupid in this thread. 'look outside of hookup culture' and all this nonsense. Go to a salsa class.... lol. Salsa is full of sluts. The gym? lol. Hoes there too. Cute girl in music class... she's fucking 2 chads too.

Look, AWALT and Tinder is only the visible tip. There is nowhere left to go. Maybeeeee salt lake city and find yourself a virgin mormon girl that is 18 and 1 day.

People here are barfing up the pill because it tastes like shit.

I feel you OP. But I'm not going to BS you and tell you you are going to find what you are looking for by joining a runners meetup... society is way past that.

KungPaoEllenTheFist · 2015-09-06T23:03:00+00:00

I feel like there aren't any good women

That is because there aren't. Don't listen to the idiots who say you just need to look harder or in a different place. Unicorns don't exist. If you ever think you have found one, all that has really happened is that you have fallen for her bullshit.

AWALT. Never forget it.

mugatucrazypills · 2015-09-06T22:35:51+00:00

If you're happiness is attached to anything that women or others do or are you'll end up depressed.

Your post strikes me as slightly manic and depressive at the same time.

I would recommend speaking to a doctor and or getting an assessment. Take care of yourself first.

[deleted] · 2015-09-07T01:56:42+00:00

The point is that these women won't commit to me. Any of them. I actually want a girl to want to commit to me rather than having a one night stand.

I feel you, but maybe try to turn your thinking around if possible. You're the one committing, you have value, and you're the one that women want to be around -- you already showed that in your short FR at the top.

The challenge as you said is finding a woman worthy of commitment. A lot of nexts will happen. You've already identified the types of women you will NOT commit to, and that is freakin' amazing.

Your behavior is up to you, if you aren't into ONS behavior, then it's not required to participate in the frenzied sexfest that is our current societal norm.

Keep up with slaying shit in the gym man -- we don't lift for women we lift for ourselves first and foremost. That goes for bettering yourself in any way, it's not for the pussy, it's for you.

Keep at it man and chin up, nothing in life is easy, especially for a man. Maybe it's time for some "monk mode" as they say - self-introspection, hanging with your male friends instead of going on Tinder dates, and picking up or reinvigorating a hobby.

Best to you.

sealteamaus · 2015-09-07T03:43:39+00:00

I want to find a beautiful person but they don't exist, they're all taken, or they just cannot be found.

But dude, you've already found us.

My personal motto is simple: Fuck bitches, get meaning. Right now you've succeeded in the former pursuit, but not the latter.

The key is to control the meaning that you give to these events. So you've run into a gaggle of modern whores who use men like dildos, and you've inadvertently assumed the role of dildo. So what? It happens to the best of us. These hoes ain't loyal, dude. What's more: they don't even value loyalty as a concept. Theyre not our equals.

I'm not saying you're Blue Pill. You're not. But I am saying that youre still suffering the side effects of "Blue Pill withdrawal." You're currently weathering the reality shock that occurs when you find out that all women are whores on a fundamental level. Ive been there. I know it sucks. It's like finding out Santa doesn't exist, God is dead, and the Tooth Fairy is a dumb bitch. But it's just true.

How are you going to control the meaning that you give to these events? Are you going to think "women are whores, I hate them?" Or are you going to say to yourself, "Hmm. According to my system of values, women do not live up to my standards of what constitutes a morally good person. I accept this and I will learn to use this fact to my advantage."

herewegoaga1n · 2015-09-07T09:51:16+00:00

Don't expect to fund a housewife at "Sluts 'r' U.S."

MikePatton-yakyakyak · 2015-09-07T12:24:54+00:00

5 sexual partners all 8+ on the looks scale in 5 days. What the fuck. (One was a threesome with 2 girls) but i'm not still not satisified

Oh, poor baby. Fuck you and your humblebrag.

SkorchZang · 2015-09-06T23:36:41+00:00

Man, you'll wear yourself out on beautiful sluts like that. All the ancient cultures on earth knew that male orgasm and ejaculation are a massive drain on the man's system. Somehow in our enlightened modern times we have conveniently "forgotten" all about it. In the words of one Pythagoras, a man can bust a nut, but only if he is ready and willing to have all the higher faculties significantly weakened for a time.

This is an absolutely realistic evaluation in my experience, think about your own history, and in that context you might have an epiphany on the use and abuse of beautiful sluts.

That makes it simple: give women "the gift of you" when feeling way too rich in those higher faculties for your own good. One doesn't expect women to help protect yourself in this respect, of course. The temperance has to be all yours. They're here on earth to suck out everything you've got to give. Best of luck to them too, because without this essentially parasitic activity by the women, there would be no next generation to carry on the line.

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DoxasticPoo · 2015-09-06T23:03:32+00:00

Good. Let this pain heal you. It will destroy the cloud in front of your judgement so that you may see someone who is truly worth your time.

But remember, AWALT. Some are just worse than others in their ways.

BallisticTherapy · 2015-09-07T05:17:11+00:00

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knytrix · 2015-09-07T13:13:06+00:00

I like how OP is some kind of fantastic mind reader yet is shocked by women's behavior. If you were this amazing psychologist you wouldn't be learning this shit now, you'd have known it a long time ago. This post is OP dick waving because he finally got some pussy. We get it, you got laid.

epicureanmanslut · 2015-09-07T13:25:30+00:00

You're not going to find a decent woman by following PUA and red pill advice, only girls to fuck. Look for girls within the interests you have or are curious about. Example: like tennis? Go play tennis.

lostmatt · 2015-09-07T14:59:45+00:00

OP's feeling is caused by bouncing around inside of the biggest echo chamber women have ever created.

The feminist narrative wasn't as mainstream as it is now. Women who don't particularly care about feminism or don't really wish to participate are being dragged in, shamed and possibly cast out, and punished if they don't nod in agreement and shout inside the echo chamber along with everyone else.

Peer pressure is causing a lot of women to participate in the hookup culture when it wasn't their own idea to begin with. Because if they don't, they aren't embracing women's newfound sexual freedom and they are anti-feminist.

What does this mean? Good choices are harder to come by. Look for women that are not as involved on social media, they live outside of the echo chamber.

Men and women who create, who have original ideas, or think for themselves are attractive, more than ever.

ZioFascist · 2015-09-08T01:25:15+00:00

welcome to the past 7 years of my life. MGTOW 4 lyfe

Throwaway9665 · 2015-09-08T12:46:55+00:00

Your emotions are understandable, but unproductive. The world is what it is, regardless of your feelings on the matter.

It sounds like bullshit, but some yoga and meditation would help you here. Seriously.

cariboo_j · 2015-09-07T00:56:18+00:00

Sounds like you're still looking for some BP love unicorn. Watch this video and have a good cry.

Some highlights:

Love is a sham. Women do not love men. They only love what men can do for them.

There is no female angelic figure out there who’s going to save you from the pain of your loneliness, who’s going to show you compassion, who’s going to help you. It doesn’t exist.

It clearly is to many men a painful realization. But at some point in time, you need to move past that. If at one point in time in your life your greatest sense of fulfillment was companionship with a woman, you need to find a new sense of fulfillment.

There are a lot of unpleasant truths in life we need to accept and work around. And this is one of them. It is perhaps for the individual man, one of the greatest and most disturbing truths to recognize.

It is a very dark, dark feeling to know you are completely alone. And to know that no one in the world is going to help you out of the hole you are in except yourself. Barring the occasional friend. But unfortunately this perception of the female as a figure of salvation is very much to your detriment my fellow men. It is not healthy. Pursuing that illusion is not healthy.

At some point in time, you must move beyond it. Put it behind you. This is the time to look after yourself. There’s no one else who’s going to do it for you. Barring some occasional friends who may lend you a helping hand.

Stardusk - Coming to terms with reality

makethemsayayy · 2015-09-06T22:00:29+00:00

When you contemplate suicide just remember that there's no guaranty that you're not making a bad situation worse. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. You have no idea what the consequences of that final act are.

Besides, as much as life sucks, it's over before you know it anyways. Might as well try to make the best of it.

bsutansalt · 2015-09-07T04:06:57+00:00

I changed your flair as this is not a field report. A proper field report has a step-by-step how-to demonstration how you did what you did. This is just a summary at best.

drallcom3 · 2015-09-07T09:53:41+00:00

5 sexual partners all 8+ on the looks scale in 5 days. What the fuck.

That's why people like to take a 6 with a good personality. How can any 8+ develop a good personality? It's literally impossible.

jinougaashu · 2015-09-07T02:50:44+00:00

You're sooooo coooooooru, sonvabitch

ScoobyGang · 2015-09-07T05:08:38+00:00

Relish the game, dive to the next level. You can't ever redesign a system by exiling yourself from it, unless your purpose is to return. You can't change these hoes, but you can change yourself. Expand your horizons and instead of purely just playing these tinder girls. Do something out of the norm, instead of being the funny guy, the guy who reads into everyone, step back. Don't regress but do it with purpose. If it seems like the only winning move is not to play, then how about a game of chess?

moresmarterthanyou · 2015-09-07T05:52:40+00:00

Great post. I read every word bc I feel like I'm in the exact same boat, word for word. Wouldn't it be nice to settle down with a good girl, build something, have a family? I don't think that'll happen anymore. Top post said somethif about tinder. I've never been on it, all the girls I fuck are 'good girls'. Sucks man. Sucks

Damascene_2014 · 2015-09-07T07:56:03+00:00

I redpilled my friend out of his MGTOW tendencies recently and he met an amazing girl which he credits me for somewhat.

They are getting it on constantly..he's talking a lot of marriage even. I tried to downplay the marriage thing but you know, he'll only go around once and he's never been married before so eh, I didn't push it.

I talked him about prenup but he's broke anyway.

my desire and drive to make male friends gets neglected (I'm in a new city, need to make friends). My assumption was that I could make a bunch of fuck buddies and then they would introduce me and network that way. Nope- They just want to use me and then chuck me.

I think that's more than a bit of your problem, you need friends that are genuine friends so you're developing yourself better outside of your PUA activities. My best friend is also my gym buddy for instance.

LordPorker · 2015-09-07T08:11:30+00:00

Hmmm. This hasn't been my experience, or observation. It's usually the opposite where they want some kind of commitment.

I have to downplay the player, and present myself as dating material.

Okeseko · 2015-09-07T09:53:43+00:00

Where I live - a small town in southern europe the most attractive girls want commitment and they very rarely slut around. They know reputation is very important. However if you're not man enough they'll leave you for the next best thing.

I never been in the USA, but women there seems to be very commitment phobic. TBH I would like to live in a hookup culture for some years. Of course women are like that, is nature! Stop being a wussy and accept reality. Don't tell me you still getdepressed because santas isn't real.

anti_erection_man · 2015-09-07T09:54:28+00:00

Oh, how much I relate to you right now. May be tinder's fault.

RPmatrix · 2015-09-07T11:33:31+00:00

$20k and you can travel through SEA and Australia like a King, for at least a year

You make enough money, do that and come back a changed man

that's my advice

bobsmitharmour · 2015-09-07T11:56:00+00:00

if ur only get 8+ girls but u want an amazing girl but cant get, mybe improve on urself more, so ur more desirable for the amazing women that only want the best.

rife_omeqa · 2015-09-07T12:07:28+00:00

Many people even on TRP will suggest an approach that is tantamount to "look for women in the gym/class/hobby rather than at clubs and you'll find your unicorn bro".

It's easy to forget that women are water. Just like water changes to fill the container, women change to suit their environment. Just like water has no control over it's container, women exert no control over their environment. They are attracted to men who radiate an environment that they desire but it is the responsibility of the man to maintain and produce that frame (environment).

You won't find a woman with the qualities you desire that doesn't also have the qualities you abhor. It's your job to produce an environment in which your woman embodies the qualities you desire while also ensuring that environment forbids the qualities you dislike.

Some people realize this and become frustrated with the burden of always needing to provide the frame for their women while others enjoy the ability to exert control and dictate the sensibilities of their women.

Your personal perspective on this burden/ability is irrelevant. How you choose to act with this knowledge is up to you.

Finding women in the gym/class/hobby is a good start as women in those environments are typically a few degrees removed from the hookup/whore end of the spectrum you abhor but you cannot forget that AWALT and that how your woman behaves is ultimately up to you.

The woman you meet in the gym who can hold a conversation, play chess and has read The Brothers Karamazov is exactly the same woman you meet in the club talking about Kanye and facebook while showing more skin than she's covering. To assume that each of these women are somehow different is folly. The difference lies in their environments, not how they respond to such environments. If you wish to have a LTR with the former you need to maintain a frame for her to respond to in which her responses are your desires. Don't forget that the former would become the later if she found herself in the laters' environment. AWALT.

novaksnow · 2015-09-07T13:51:59+00:00

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JackGetsIt · 2015-09-07T16:10:06+00:00

I want to find a beautiful person but they don't exist, they're all taken, or they just cannot be found.

This statement is a totally bogus train of thought. Look into cognitive behavior theory. It sounds like you are having racing irrational thoughts leading to depression. You are also definitely in the anger phase as pointed out in several other replies. This, too, shall pass.

Another random piece of advice. It seems that you are shifting away from 'plating' girls and now seeking friendships with women. This is almost always a losing proposition. It takes longer to build solid male friendships but they will be more fruitful and reliable.

BlackHeart89 · 2015-09-07T18:03:30+00:00

Dude. I believe just about every chick is or was a whore at some point. Maybe rode the CC for a few months and figured it wasn't for her. Who knows.

Thats why I like women who are self-aware or just intelligent. They know the odds of finding someone good for them. They know what they want and so forth.

Make yourself into someone she believes she would have a very hard time finding again. She'll keep you. But there are stupid bitches out there who think, "Oh. I can just go find another handsome, in shape, intelligent, successful man any time." Then the wall hits... Hard.

verifytoi · 2015-09-07T18:15:30+00:00

You like using condoms? You stupid.

zephyrprime · 2015-09-08T17:53:48+00:00

"How can women put these masks up constantly and not be utterly worn down by it?" This is one of the fundamental differences between men and women. Women can do this because there IS NO REAL SELF UNDERNEATH. All they are is fascade and superficiality. There is nothing underneath. This is one of the most fundamental differences between men and women. The ultimate reason a man is supposed to be in a higher position than a woman is because a man has more substance to him.

Five_Decades · 2015-09-11T03:40:08+00:00

Have you looked at older women, like 35+? I"d hope by that age they have been burnt and failed enough to realize that meaningful attachment is more important than playing the game. But I could be wrong.

deadtfil · 2015-09-06T18:37:10+00:00

Move to Africa or the poor European countries. These third world/second world countries haven't caught up with American culture yet, or not fully at least.

Other than that, if you contemplate suicide because of women, perhaps the redpill was not made for you. Further reading might have negative side effects.

nomorelulu · 2015-09-07T03:04:06+00:00

Yep - most girls will fuck you and chuck you aside like a used condom. Get used to it.

Merwebb · 2015-09-07T03:27:42+00:00

You are not accepting anything yet, just angry.

No, women are not evil. They are just women.

destinypallooker · 2015-09-07T04:40:04+00:00

Find Latin American or Eastern European women. Or non Western women. They aren't as selfish and still value relationships.

Goldfulgore · 2015-09-07T06:23:20+00:00

You are depressed, just like me. Most who post here are in their anger phase. That is the reason I don't read too much RP anymore. The last thing I want to read is some anger rant of a newbie.

I wish the world was not like this. I wish women loved us in the same way we do. I wish I didn't have this need to fuck as many women as possible. Cause I know I am just as fucked up as they are. In a LTR, I dream of drowning in pussy and when I am drowning in pussy, I dream of a LTR.

But I have found the root of the problem. It's called "expectations". I have been conditioned from my BP birth to seek happiness through other people.

But there is another way a man can get happiness. I realized this when I was a virgin in my teens and couldn't get pussy. There was one time I was truly happy despite that. I was sequencing music and playing my favorite video games with my brother. We also had a small fan group from the internet that posted requests about our music. Losing my virginity didn't come close to how happy I felt back then.

So my point is to manage your expectations. Stop seeking happiness through other people and find something that makes you happy like some sort of activity or hobby.

nixon007 · 2015-09-07T06:34:47+00:00

Its ok bro good effort but you are more important than chasing tail.

deepthro-waway · 2015-09-07T12:26:36+00:00

Where have all the good women gone? Well, they aren't willing to date people like you :-)

Phorella · 2015-09-07T02:26:37+00:00

Can someone point me in the direction of how OP pulled this off effectively?

Bellum00 · 2015-09-07T08:27:53+00:00

What depresses you is not AWALT, it is women not rising up to the challenge and self-regulating themselves.

You will notice in life that most people - men and women - love not liberty but license, and will use their freedom to excuse their evil.

This theme is constant in all matters (see the Bible or Milton and Burke).

Accept evil as inherent to the world. Accept you cannot change, rule or flee the world.

Realize that you do have full control of yourself, your actions and your views (when actions are impossible), and become a sphere of good unaffected by this great adversary. It is easier to find good in others after finding good in one's self.

Philosophical musings aside, stop spending time with evil women and acting like an evil man, and start making an effort to find a good woman and act like a good man. You'll feel better.

If you have trouble finding a good woman, go and help at your local animal shelter.

SoleSoulSeoul · 2015-09-07T01:20:35+00:00

You sound like a fedora-tipping pansy. Grow up.

Procrastanaseum · 2015-09-07T03:06:22+00:00

RP is true and its kind of making me suicidal

You need professional help.

1 (800) 273-8255 National Suicide Prevention Lifeline

La_Liga_Forensics · 2015-09-07T03:23:31+00:00

Brah you hit the jackpot sexually. This is just your inner bitch talking, put him away with some red pill wisdom and go back to fucking your bitches. I challenge you to get a foursome with three girls

AdonisHera · 2015-09-06T18:25:24+00:00

Dude, YOU chose this path. Suck it up. I had the Same few thoughts last night when I was doing my thing. You could've not taken the pill. That's too damn bad. AWALT. Build frame, build manipulation skills, build your body and your networking.

DarkSayed · 2015-09-06T23:15:50+00:00

Anyways, RP is true and its kind of making me suicidal. I feel completely isolated in RP... I feel like there aren't any good women.

There aren't, but why does that make you feel suicidal?

monzzter221 · 2015-09-07T04:00:54+00:00

Look man, all of us. ALL OF US want that. We are all here because we want a real, meaningful connection with someone that involves a sexual connection as well. Men are the true romantics. Don't forget that. It doesn't make you "beta" that that is what you want.

But... Its not feasible. Its so rare that for all practical purposes it might as well not exist. Women have their own motivations and drives. You can't count on 99.999999999% of them for anything other than being there for you to get your needs met, and even then only if you're smart. Holding out for that gem is a waste of time, whether or not she exists, because the likelihood you will find that is miniscule.

That's what makes this difficult. Accepting it isn't difficult, acting on it isn't difficult, but learning and embracing and enjoying life alone, needing no connection with someone other than yourself, this is what makes it so hard. We want to make that connection with another person, but we need to make that connection with ourselves. Its like being a zen monk or something. Its fucking hard.

Blood_Red_Phoenix · 2015-09-07T12:22:10+00:00

There. Are. No. Unicorns. Every woman feels the pull of hypergamy. Every woman experiences the war brides dynamic. They are people just like you or me but the nature of their sexuality means that they can never love you the way you love them. If you start believing that quality women are somehow fundamentally different then you're just going to end up back here in a few months or years in the anger phase again. Hold you head up high and go forward

drummmmergeorge · 2015-09-07T13:24:08+00:00

I've only dates girls in school, but I would imagine girls in the club like the attention, but for me I study psychology and am competent how the whore's mind works inside-out. I know how to play her, but I'm shy.

drummmmergeorge · 2015-09-07T13:46:59+00:00

This is why I don't date 8+ girls with confidence. I want a cute shy girl. I have given up on American women a few years ago, they are not loyal. But now I specially target asains-Japanese women. They are the best in mileage.

fitnesstested · 2015-09-07T20:32:45+00:00

This will probably get buried but I hadn't seen this viewpoint in the thread so ill share.

Welcome to the depression phase my friend at least you got a few bangs before you hit it lol.

During mine I was just getting my night game good so I was getting consistent numbers and makeouts but not closing... You get all sad that it works and stuff despite how many years you spent doing the wrong thing and it sucks. Nothing you can do about yesterday only today and tomorrow.

Anyway your problem my friend is that your aren't working the comfort stage correctly.

With those girls you one nighted and never heard from again they felt too slutty or like you didnt care enough. So in order to not have to deal with those emotions they just removed their stimulus... by not having anything to do with you anymore. because "it just happened" she "never does this" and shes "not like that."

On the other hand those girls who tried to act all chaste and make you jump through hoops did so because they felt you telegraphing too much interest too soon and you were no challenge to get to intimacy. So they put you on the beta mating schedule in a line that is notoriously long of suitors she'll "settle" for one day.

Long story short get the bang first with that game you one nighted those chicks with but make sure to focus on running more comfort game with them so they feel like they could "change you" and turn you into a long term prospect. Not the other way around.

Seduction especially long term is a delicate tight rope dance dude. Thats why so many men fail or do not even try. and more importantly is why its simply better for most in society if the sexual market is regulated.

But it aint regulated in modern western society buddy so you've gotta deal with it as it is "you cant fight the terrain" as they say.

I'll leave you with a recent heartise article that explains why this juxtaposition of actions is needed. And you get all the way through to the acceptance phase soon.

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/09/07/two-minds/

P. S.

Dont let these guys fool you about where you meet a girl changing the game completely.

That same girl you met on that canoeing trip had a girls night out and gave me a hand job after i licked her tities out front of my house when she dropped me off last night and that same chick you met in class gave me a blow job in the bathroom when i went out with her.

The meeting location merely adds a what im telling you that you need more of. Comfort. Awalt and even if you meet a chick a more respectable place she could be a piece of shit and I've had nice relationships with chicks i met at bars. Common denominator? Tight game.

The red pill works and I'm disgusted.

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