Fat chicks

Tokimonatakanimekat · 2024-10-28T11:48:27+00:00

Depends on a guy's personal preference.

For me "fat" = "Michelin man" body and boss music playing when you face the stairs.

Peter Rubens drawings of Venus in various paintings is what I consider "chubby" that's still within 'attractive' range.

Aafan_Barbarro · 2024-10-28T11:14:52+00:00

It's related to BMI, but it's mainly an appearance thing and what it says about your personality and lifestyle.

Gravel_Roads · 2024-10-28T11:14:33+00:00

Everyone has a different idea of what fat means. In the same conversation, I saw dudes interchangeably using "most Americans are overweight" and "most women are morbidly obese" as interchangeable facts.

Meanwhile, most people have dated someone who was out of shape in one way or another. I had a college gf who was like 180? But she didn't seem fat, just super amble, she had a big booty and big boobs but she could still go on hikes with me and walk around just fine.

Don't listen to people's conversations about this, no one knows wtf they're talking about, just act like a normal person and only date people who can act like normal people back.

Garfagnana · 2024-10-28T13:44:38+00:00

If you are talking purely about aesthetics, I truly don’t think the number on the scale is all that important. Sure, it’s related, but it isn’t everything. Depending on several different factors (bone structure, estrogen levels, diet, whether she works out, etc.), two women of the same height and weight can have body shapes that look very different from one another.

I know the word has been hijacked in recent years to simply mean “obese,” but I genuinely have a preference for curvy women, who have a big juicy butt, thighs, and boobs, with a relatively slender waist (i.e., the “hourglass” physique). There’s a “magic” waist-to-hip ratio that most men find universally attractive, which is right around 0.7, meaning the circumference of the waist is 70% the circumference of the hips. Men from some cultures might prefer 0.6 and men from other cultures might prefer 0.8, but generally speaking, a waist-to-hip ratio of around 0.7 is seen as attractive by most men. I’m not making this up, as there’s plenty of research into this. Women who have a waist-to-hip ratio of around 0.7 will generally have an appealing body type, even if her BMI is a bit higher. However, if a woman is extremely overweight (or extremely underweight), it’s very unlikely that she’ll have this “ideal” waist-to-hip ratio.

One more thing I’d like to add is how somebody carries facial fat. There are some very lucky women who might be chubby, but don’t really carry it in their faces very much. I think it’s safe to say that most people (men and women) are attracted to slenderer faces. I’ve also seen the inverse, where a woman who is rather slim will carry a lot of weight in her face, which is unfortunate. I don’t really know what causes this, aside from genetics.

Edit: grammar

meisterkraus · 2024-10-28T11:24:24+00:00

I’ve been active and frequent the gym so it’s no mystery that I’m actively trying to better myself.

I will say this is good. Keep at it. But the truth is that most people (men and women) don't want to build and support a partner they just want to wait at the finish line.

VojakOne · 2024-10-28T15:44:55+00:00

Fat = when your weight exceeds what is attractive based on your height/frame.

That's basically it tbh.

That being said, men consider everybody when it comes to intimacy, relationships, and putting a ring on it. You're a woman, guaranteed there's at least 150 dudes out there who'd pay to bring you coffee in the morning.

BrightAutumn12 · 2024-10-28T16:07:21+00:00

Men hit on fat chicks all the time you shouldn't worry about it.

plantsadnshit · 2024-10-28T13:16:37+00:00

150 at 5'4 can be both fat or chubby. Depends on your build as well as your muscle %. If you were ~10 lbs heavier you'd definitely be "fat".

As long as I see the acual work being put in (think a chubby woman who I see at the gym a few times a week) I wouldn't mind dating her. Saying this as a very fit man.

But just swiping on Tinder, I wouldn't go for someone overweight. Usually they're overweight because they can't stick to a diet or workout schedule.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-10-28T14:57:09+00:00

There are going to be all types of guys, and yes: there are lots of dudes that like bigger girls.

Our only definition of “fat” was a bigger girl that literally did not take care of herself and it was affecting health.

Zabadoodude · 2024-10-28T16:28:21+00:00

Most people that are trying to lose the weight give up at some point, regain it, or are wildly exaggerating how much of an effort they were making to lose it in the first place. For that reason guys will see you as the weight you are now, not the weight you are hoping to be.

Regarding what's considered fat: it really depends on how you carry it. The hottest women I've seen were technically overweight, but it was mostly butt, tits, and shapely legs. Other women put on any weight and it goes straight to their stomach and nowhere else. Different guys like different things, but you will definitely notice more attention if you're not far from a healthy BMI

M3taBuster · 2024-10-28T14:07:40+00:00

BMI can be a decent indicator for regular, untrained people. But it starts to break down once you put on any significant amount of muscle mass. Unless you've been doing heavy weight lifting for a while, it's probably accurate for you. And your BMI is 25.7, which is ever-so-slightly overweight.

That said, people carry fat differently. Some women can carry a little extra and still look good if they tend to mostly store it in their lower body/breasts, and very little in their belly. Take an honest look at yourself, and if that's not the case for you, then yeah you'd probably benefit from losing some weight.

But if you're serious about losing weight, stop trying to burn fat through cardio (which is what it sounds like you're doing). Instead, count calories and make sure you're eating in a calorie deficit. There are certain hacks you can use to make this easier, such as selecting foods that are filling and low calorie, not drinking your calories, replacing anything sugary with artificially sweetened substitutes, etc. But at the end of the day, you HAVE to eat less. There's no way around that. Don't do cardio because you'll just overcompensate by eating more. Conserve your energy to keep your appetite low. Distract yourself with hobbies. Leave the house and just drive around if you have to. Sleep more.

As for your question about "investing" in a chubby woman, most men aren't gonna do that. The vast majority of overweight people will probably stay overweight for the rest of their lives. They just don't have the discipline to lose it. So it's an unlikely bet. Not to mention that if a woman is significantly overweight, even if she did manage to get thin, there's a chance you still won't find her attractive. People look very different when they're fat, and it's hard to predict what they would look like if they were thin.

But if men are asking you out, don't assume the worst. Give them a chance, maybe they genuinely like how you look. If you're afraid of getting pumped and dumped, just don't put out. Make them wait until you're certain they're committed to you.

ColbyXXXX · 2024-10-28T18:01:01+00:00

If she fat and look good she still fat but I wouldn’t say it out loud. I like fat women and even more I like fat women who acknowledge that they are fat and don’t lose confidence as a result.

Large_Wishbone4652 · 2024-10-28T13:26:44+00:00

Fat is high bodyfat.

Spread-Em-Plz · 2024-10-28T15:07:20+00:00

Being a gym-obsessed athlete myself, I can say BMI fuckin’ sucks; doesn’t tell nearly enough of the story

Similar case for specific numbers on scales; everyone holds weight differently if we’re talking from an aesthetic perspective.

(Someone with a very short torso, yet long limbs speaking here; makes the way I carry weight real weird)

Personally I’m not into girls who aren’t active and generally even a fat girl who goes to the gym wouldn’t exactly be my choice; chubby could be considered if there’s active effort to improve (but that’s still closer to a “probably not” than a “yes”)

It’s a case where what you see and what it really is in real life is more important than numbers, to a certain point of course. (There’s a point where if a girl is like 5’3 but 220 lbs you probably couldn’t even justify it with “she’s muscular”)

OilJust4498 · 2024-10-28T15:42:50+00:00

Relevant: https://tenor.com/view/what-can-skinny-women-do-gif-19510615

As a 37 year old virgin I would just be happy to get a date. Besides all that superficial stuff: height, weight, appearance etc, is just that- superficial, doesn't say anything about what shes like on the inside, personally speaking if I really had to choice I like a woman with a little extra meet on the bone.

Stunning-Spirit5275 · 2024-10-28T20:32:45+00:00

WE.LIKE.CHUBBY.WOMEN

Livid-Log7463 · 2024-10-28T20:32:53+00:00

Fortunately for women there are different men genuinely attracted to every body type, personality type and combination of that women can have so do with that information what you will.

fredwester · 2024-10-28T11:24:48+00:00

I wouldn't say BMI is a 100% reliable way of judging, because even a bit of musculature on a person can make them have a greater BMI than someone who is skinnyfat and out of shape.

Body fat percentage in combination with BMI is a better indicator. 30% body fat with a BMI of 25 would be considered overweight. 40% body fat with a BMI of 30 is considered obese.

krackedy · 2024-10-28T12:05:12+00:00

I prefer thin.

I don't mind a little bit of chub as long as it's still a healthy, active body and has a waist. Soft bodies are fine. Someone working on bettering themselves is always hot.

I'm just not attracted to obesity or big fat bellies.

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purplish_possum · 2024-10-28T13:24:33+00:00

What is fat?

The term covers a lot of ground -- from a 210 pound chick with her cute little belly poking out from under her crop top -- to a 600+ pound woman who struggles to walk across the room.

Acceptable-Truck3803 · 2024-10-28T13:59:05+00:00

150lbs at 5’4” depends. there is a difference between being 5’4” 150 with a bit of muscle with leg, glute, curves at the same time there is also 5’4” 150lbs which is pure fat and there are no curves present which show leg and or glute growth. Aka skinny fat and still have a “spare tire” within their stomach.

This is a cool tool to use for both genders. Some women look like a knockout at 150, some don’t. It all depends on lean body mass and genetics really.

https://loseitirc.github.io/visualbmi/

rustlerhuskyjeans · 2024-10-28T15:35:38+00:00

This height/weight is impossible to say, you could be an amazing hourglass, gorgeous face at that weight. Then mainly getting with elite men who don’t settle for the skinny girls either and blaming your weight. You could also at that weight look fat, not have a cute face, and be below average.

The problem with guys who get dates, is they need active sexual interest in the girl then decide. If you act not that interested in him, he’s not going to bother.

KentuckyCriedFlickin · 2024-10-28T15:54:09+00:00

Using the BMI visualizer, 150 at 5'4 does not seem bad to me personally. It is right at the cusp of overweight, so guys who prefer skinny women wouldn't go for it I guess.

In America, 200 pounds and up is typically where most people will agree that you are way too fat. Most women aren't going to be 5'10+ and they typically aren't dating average to short men, so that alleviates the "you can be a healthy weight at 200 lbs" for a lot of men.

So yeah, most women between 5'0 to 5'7 (~150 cm - 170 cm) will be obese over 200 pounds. Anything between 150 - 200 lbs will highly depend more on how you look more than a number or BMI.

Subie- · 2024-10-28T16:15:38+00:00

Honestly.

I have a ton of respect for you that you are active and frequent to the gym.

What I do mind is women that do not go to the gym, and are fat. They want a guy to invest into them to help them better themself and motivate them. No thank you. No one is motivating me to go to the gym, why should I motivate and invest into them when they can’t even motivate and take care of themself? It’s a double standard, and they often choose the average, regular dudes to do so because Chad definitely doesn’t need to invest to get what he wants.

berichorbeburied · 2024-10-28T16:41:58+00:00

No

Fat to me is an aesthetic thing

It’s proportional and/or a ratio

If your belly is bigger than your whole body

You are fat/obese

For me personally if your belly is bigger than your boobs or ass then you are fat

I say I like fat/chubby women

But it’s within reason and within limits

It’s usually accompanied by them having big boobs or a big ass

And still their bodies still look good or proportional

They just have more weight/fat

Hot_Road3076 · 2024-10-28T17:00:55+00:00

If you're a bigger girl, and your extra weight is distributed nicely, there are plenty of men that like that sort of build. A girl like that was my "one who got away". lol

anewlookav · 2024-10-28T17:36:06+00:00

There's more to fat than BMI. For me, it's about bodyfat percentage. Look at the image I attached

That said, since it sounds like you're not an athlete, i'm going to guess that your weight is not "all muscle" like some people with a high BMI who are actually really fit and look great.

In that case, another big factor is where you hold your weight (boobs, butt, etc).

Keep working out. Even if you aren't losing weight, you might be gaining muscle and losing fat. Good luck!

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Muscletov · 2024-10-28T18:13:41+00:00

I prefer chubby women. Fat distribution is pretty important though.

flextov · 2024-10-28T20:17:50+00:00

People were probably assuming that you were a lot fatter based on your original post. Looking at your picture, you look good. That’s what to do with that info.

FunkGetsStrongerPt1 · 2024-10-28T21:12:23+00:00

150 at 5’4 is fine. People are talking more 200+ here.

Working_File2825 · 2024-10-29T01:54:38+00:00

5' 9-1/2", 170 here..... Your height and weight would have my attention.

Extra points for being active. Extra points for being open to criticism.

I try to not judge people who aren't active, but its another thing when the person just outright doesn't push themselves to be active, ever. So I have big respect for people who do, especially when they're not athletically conditioned.

People have become lonelier and less social. Honestly, the dating game is changing. Maybe its not wouldn't be so bad to strike up a conversation with someone yourself. Forget all that "man needs to make the first move" stuff. Times have changed.

TopShelfSnipes · 2024-10-29T06:57:01+00:00

I'd say that fat is defined subjectively by different men.

It involves a combination of height/weight (BMI although that's a bit too literal/autistic to be a hard and fast rule as if there's some magic number), body fat vs. lean muscle, waist to hip ratio, belly size, thigh size, and chest shape.

I can't explain it clearly, but there is a clear delineation - I can look at two women who are the exact same height and weight and think "athlete" for one and "fat" for the other. Another guy's standards may be different. It's important to me to maintain an active lifestyle and if a woman couldn't at least stay close to me (I'll admit I'm tough to "keep up" with), I just was never down for that.

Artistic_Speech_1965 · 2024-10-29T07:16:38+00:00

Well it's not about BMI but how you look. In general men loves curves. If your weight hide your weist/hip ratio you will be percieved as less attractive

HighValueWomanBook · 2024-10-29T18:19:42+00:00

What is your desired outcome?

BrenoECB · 2024-10-28T12:14:46+00:00

I would support a fat partner if she was willing to lose weight (i lost a lot in the past years, I’m not demanding anything I can’t give) and there was a 100% guarantee i wouldn’t replace me as soon as she got fit

Most women react violently to the first and will probably do the latter

FebruaryEightyNine · 2024-10-28T14:44:14+00:00

Nah.

I've never had anything particular against fat women and have smashed a few...but I feel there is something kinda lacking personality wise in many. Its often a lack of self awareness. Its funny because an often used hypothetical is "would you ever date a fat women if she had an amazing personality" when the reality is I cant think of a single young, severly overweight women who actually had said "glowing personality". Their weight was often indicative of poor lifestyle choices which they're often too ignorant and lacking the requisite introspectiveness to change.

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QuantityAcademic · 2024-10-28T16:19:41+00:00

OP this varies from guy to guy but 150lbs at 5'4" isn't fat to me. Also some men atleast actively prefer fat women. Like there's no call to invest in a person in the hope that they will become more attractive. Those curvy women are at their most attractive to that guy.

treadmarks · 2024-10-28T19:33:57+00:00

do men ever consider paying me mind as a mean of investing?

Most guys, regardless of pill color, will tell you not to do this. Women are well-known for trading up ("monkey branching") as soon as that's a possibility for them. There is no loyalty or return on investment.

The other way it ends is the woman fails to meet her goals, remains unhealthy and unattractive, and then publicly blasts the man for body shaming her and preying on her insecurities.

It's a lose/lose situation for a man.

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