"redpilled" and NOT misogynistic?

Acrobatic_Computer · 2024-04-20T19:27:04+00:00

I'd like to hear from Red Pillers who DON'T hate women. Why do you think RP is cultivating this reputation?

It is way easier to attribute disagreements about things like dating to hating women than to engage seriously with the idea that things might not be the way you think they are. There is ideological priming behind this and it is a thought-terminating cliche. You cannot generally criticize women without this accusation being flung around.

Not only that but since I view the red pill as fundamentally about seeing past a lot of the bullshit and woo that we invoke around relationships and love, I think a lot of women are very emotionally attached to that woo in a way men aren't, and take issue with men revealing what is behind the curtain. Just like how PUAs got criticized before them, anyone who tries to systematize or analytically describe human interaction dealing with heterosexual sex, sexuality, or romance, is going to get accused of this.

What do you love about women?

I'm a straight dude, being around even vaguely feminine women (that is, the vast majority of women) is one of the fundamental pleasures of life. Anything I try to describe about it is just an ad hoc rationalization. I'm a monkey with some neuron activation. From physicality, to the way they talk, to the way they laugh, it is simply pleasing on a base reptilian level in a way different than socializing with men.

Steakman1 · 2024-04-20T16:09:40+00:00

What do you love about women?

Being around a feminine and well put together woman brings such a calming effect to me. It’s like for the brief moment of time I’m talking to them, it becomes easy to forget about whatever other problems I got going on.

peteypete78 · 2024-04-20T15:57:24+00:00

Criticising people isn't hate.

_ENO__ · 2024-04-20T22:39:23+00:00

As far as i know.. misogynists don’t do so well in the red pill.

_Chaos_And_Horny_ · 2024-04-20T17:17:36+00:00

Your last question is wholesome :3 The redpill cultivates mysoginistic reputation because when incels were declared terrorists a few years ago those conservative men had nowhere to go because those online spaces were being intervened, and apparently the crowd just filled up the redpill sub.

There are three concepts within the redpill which associate with misogyny. The first is that we are animals and sexual competition is a thing, children are not prepared for this when they turn pre-adolescent. At such age one happens to hate the player instead of the game, which is associated with two concepts I said earlier. The second is that there is a well known acceptance phase, which stems from misogyny, and ends when it ceases, which is the last concept: don't hate women, it's not their fault. It is known that if one is hating women, that person is not up to competition, lacks qualities for success, not RP.

For the last question. Women are always wonderful. It's just that there is a small minority which are wonderful at being worse than men xD

MisterFunnyShoes · 2024-04-20T16:06:50+00:00

The word “misogyny” is a moving target which can mean a thousand different things to a thousand different people.

funfacts_82 · 2024-04-20T17:47:19+00:00

Why would i hate women? That a pretty absurd proposition.

LapazGracie · 2024-04-20T15:59:59+00:00

I suspect a large % of the red pill and even black pill guys don't actually hate women.

They are rejecting the nonsense being peddled their way. And the feminist rhetoric is part of that nonsense.

So of course they end up being called misogynist. In some cases they genuinely do hate women. But most of the time they just hold these EXTREMIST views such as "men are more capable athletically than women" or "men prefer younger women". You know shit that any rational person knows is true but it's misogynistic to them.

kvakerok_v2 · 2024-04-20T16:51:36+00:00

2 reasons:

Red pill is under massive attack from legacy mass media, which is pouring gallons upon gallons of bullshit into the mainstream about the red pill.
There are bad apples and grifters around red pill, which legacy mass media uses as ammo to paint all red pill as misogynistic, awful, etc.

I love hanging out with my women friends, flirting and having sex with attractive women. I love talking to smart women, watching great comedians women (Taylor Tomlinson). Titties and assess are great to watch too 👌🏽

SlowEffective8146 · 2024-04-20T16:31:25+00:00

There's a few reasons:

Holding women accountable for anything is viewed as misogyny. I think that just goes to show how far the seesaw has shifted in women's favor, "women are wonderful" is so strong that just attempting to bring them into a neutral state is MISOGYNY.

I love women, I love that women balance men. I love that women push men to be greater. I love that women can emotionally pinpoint a problem and solution better than I ever could. I love how a woman can nurture naturally without being taught.

Perfect_Sir4820 · 2024-04-20T17:02:02+00:00

Feminists seem to think that not simping = misogyny.

Most_Read_1330 · 2024-04-21T05:22:50+00:00

It's the grifters like freshman and fit that make it look bad. Rp is just about being educated about women's dating strategies.

Hatespanch · 2024-04-20T21:10:22+00:00

Why do you think RP is cultivating this reputation?

cause mainstream redpill "gurus", channels, podcasts and anything that goes viral about the redpill is trash. hatebait and scams to make money from angry/lonely men/kids

DarayRaven · 2024-04-20T17:10:28+00:00

Why do you think RP is cultivating this reputation?

You know why lol

What do you love about women?

Everything, exactly what can you not love about women ?

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tadL · 2024-04-21T16:35:52+00:00

I am not. So it works fine. Or how to say it. It's easy barley an inconvenience.

AreOut · 2024-04-21T20:01:21+00:00

"I'd like to hear from Red Pillers who DON'T hate women."

if you hate women then you are still in anger phase, thus not redpilled yet, being redpilled means total liberation of such negative feelings

abaxeron · 2024-04-21T22:22:57+00:00

Why do you think RP is cultivating this reputation?

RP is not cultivating this reputation.

Women have established among themselves beyond any shadow of a doubt: EVERYTHING IS SEXIST.

Including things that are mutually exclusive.

It is impossible to be "RP and NOT misogynistic", same as it's impossible to be BP, male, female, Chrstian, atheist, ANYTHING AT ALL, without someone, somewhere, associating the person and their beliefs/behavior with misogyny.

Hell, feminist women call other feminist women misogynists for disagreement.

I'd like to hear from Red Pillers who DON'T hate women... What do you love about women?

I consider this question dishonest. Whenever I tried asking here, many times, what women love about men, I never got a general answer. It was always "Well, my boyfriend/husband..." I don't have to love anything about women as a category of human beings in order not to be considered a hateful bigot.

SecondEldenLord · 2024-04-21T01:13:56+00:00

The whole problem is people just label other people they don't agree with as awful because its way easier this way rather than holding their position and finding a good argument. And redpill was always about telling the truth, especially the uncomfortable ones cause they are not said enough. And obviously you will always have the media protecting women no matter what awful things they say and do.

kexavah558ask · 2024-04-20T18:15:22+00:00

Whether you like it or not, acknowledging these psychosocial trends at work will lead to a diminished opinion of women; or at the very least an impetus against their political, economic and social empowerment in face of the Current Year's, if a more benevolent paternalistic perspective is to be taken.

nnuunn · 2024-04-20T16:10:37+00:00

A tyrant needs to have a basic familiarity with good governance, a good leader needs to be an expert in good governance. Tyrants just need to keep the country running well enough that he can get what he wants, the good leader wants the country to do its best.

So it is with the red pill, if you just want to get laid, you need a basic familiarity with rp, but if you truly love a woman, and want to do what's best for her, you need to know as much about the rp as possible.

Title	"redpilled" and NOT misogynistic?
Author	Windmill_flowers
Upvotes	19
Comments	249
Date	April 20, 2024 3:55 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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