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[–][deleted] 200 points201 points202 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Be confident as fuck...plus being attractive helps. But seriously confidence and not arrogance, if you can get to that stage it insanely changes the dating market for yourself, well actually almost everything.
[–][deleted] 46 points47 points48 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Can you define confidence, the characteristics and traits? What does a confident person look and act like compared to an arrogant person?
[–]superphotonerd 108 points109 points110 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
appearance wise, good posture, 'confident' body language such as sitting comfortably, taking up space (not sitting with your legs closed or 'sheepishly') Looking people in the eyes, a voice with character and bass. In terms of how you'd act, someone who's not offended easily, can take a joke, good sense of humour, and an overall 'chilled' vibe that anyone can get along with. Someone with an air of self-assurance and self belief.
Arrogance is some of these things overamplified. Its one thing to act like someone who knows they look good, and women may like - but it's another thing to talk like you're god's gift to women. I think the journey to confidence is figuring out the medium between the two, and that's often figured by trial and error.
If seeking to gain more confidence, take the focus away from women, and place the focus on yourself. Get better at all things important for the modern man. In my opinion, these things:
Focus on financial stability, and increasing your income. Whether thats working on a career leading to a high paying salary, investing regularly, being smarter about how you spend your money and how much money you save and retain. Being social costs money, going out to meet people and enjoy new experiences and places costs money. Make sure you have earnings that can support your lifestyle, whatever it is.
Build your physique, and look after your health. Working out regularly, and crafting a body from hard work reaps more benefits than you'll ever realise. You'll hear from people that it's not all about muscles, but in my opinion - it really is. Women are attracted to men who are in good shape. It goes deeper than just face value, it says alot more about you than just aesthetics. You represent vitality, security, safety let alone sex appeal. Plus if you wanna be excellent in bed, stamina and a good physique pay dividends
The better you develop yourself, the better you feel about yourself. The confidence becomes natural. The art of not giving a fuck because you have X Y Z things ACTUALLY going on in your life, women become a bonus to life, not a focus. Plus the game just get's easy.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this is best ive read, so true
[–]heroyi 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think of it like the rule for cologne. Let the smell be discovered, not announced.
A confident person doesn't have to boast anything. He KNOWS he looks good, feels good, acts good.
An arrogant ass will boast about all the cash and items he has, brag about his accomplishment etc...
And to clarify, doing a little bragging is ok. It can even be fun and engaging if done tastefully.
[–]superphotonerd 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
that's exactly it
[–]LiveAndLearn2797 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I strongly agree with everything that you said. One thing I would add, or emphasize is.. don’t be needy. @halfkoreanhalfjew you are already going in with the mindset that you want to be approach. Personally, I have success with women or even friends when I am not even intending to create any bonds. Confidence is basically not needing anything external to fulfill you. You already are independent, strong and value yourself. Go to the bar to have a blast without expecting anything and I promise you if you follow the confident tips our friend has explained above, you will flourish my man.
[–]chocolex23 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's a confusion in my mind : On one hand I'm getting advice of : changing myself, getting confident, improving And on other hand i get : "Don't change yourself for someone", "Just be yourself", "Don't pretend to be what you're not" So what to do ? Ppl say this ppl say that
Also thanks for your advice on becoming confident. I personally feel comfortable with sitting with crossed legs rather than spreading and taking much area but that's just my preference. The things i should work on to gain confidence are : • Getting good hairstyle - I've never tried a hairstyle in my life so i want a good hairstyle. (My hair is bad and sways in wind and not stay in one position, also I'm not able to puff it) • Gaining weight - I'm skinny as fuck (around 50 kg at age of 20). I seem to dislike food so i tend to eat less and not gain weight so need to do something about it. • Getting a good sense of fashion - I'm very less interested in shopping and whenever I'm dragged to shop i tend to get whatever that is cheap (slightly stingy) cuz everything looks the same to me. • Treat my over sweating problem - I've got hyperhidrosis which makes me sweat a lot through my palms, sole, calves, back, abdomen, arm pits, almost whole body. So need to treat it or i won't be able to hug or even hold hands. This is all I've to change. Voice is something we can't change so it's ok (I've got hoarse voice).
Once again thank you for reading all this 😅😁.
[–]mywifeslv 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t hesitate, smile and be well mannered, don’t be defensive. Tell a decent story or ask great questions. Eye contact
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[–]Legal_Development 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Some more bad advice: Pop some Molly and watch the confidence transcend to an ultra level.
[–]throwawawawawaway1 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You know, that is my biggest problem: not having confidence, but having confidence in a bar specifically.
I once threw a party at my place for just friends, but ended up having a group of expats over. In a setting like this, I am actually confident as hell, being the main guy there. Making sure everyone is happy, talking English, not my native language but I'm much more smooth and 'loud' with it. I move around a lot more, talk to different people, instead of just sticking to 'my spot'. In a lot of settings I just shift into the background, getting overshadowed byh louder people, but if the situation is just right, I just float to the top.
There was one Argentinian girl there, never seen her before, and she told me later she was willing to stay the night there, after having just met. She told me this on our first date, when I did end up sleeping with her.
That was such an eyeopener for me. I knew I had it in me, it just never comes out when I'm at a bar. I'm awkward as fuck in there. So I thought, I need to make a few changes, go to a place where I can be myself more.
Switched countries, more to my style, lot of outdoors stuff, thought I'd join clubs and whatnot to meet people: turns out, in this town, there is not many hobbyclubs etc. Pretty much the only thing to do here to meet people is: you guessed it: the bars. Lol.
[–]Fukb0i97 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Where do you live?
[–]throwawawawawaway1 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Moved from the Netherlands to South Africa.
[–]geonerd1310 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Amsterdam is very multi racial/ multi cultural with lots of beautiful women. I'm sure one can pursue lots of different women in a country such.
[–]throwawawawawaway1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Netherlands=\= Amsterdam, but yes, I know, I lived in the country my whole life.
I didn't change countries just to chase women; I moved because I was unhappy in general and I'll be happier here, closer to my passions. I accepted the fact that dating here would be even harder. At the same time, if you're not happy in your current situation, you won't attract women anyway, which is what happened in the NL.
[–]18cmOfGreatness 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Confidence also means having the courage to go for what and who you want. So... being too scared to approach girls isn't confident by default.
[–]Xfelix17 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m learning that at my young age. I’m getting better w it everyday and I notice slight differences as the days go. You are right about that just be as confident as you can and you’re halfway there
[–]strawberryadvil 169 points170 points171 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
look like you have coke
[–]WhiteningMcClean 79 points80 points81 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh whoops I dropped my monster 8-ball that I use for my magnum coke addiction
[–]heroyi 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And your wad of cash
[–]kris__666 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😂
[–]Arcchimedes 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t tell him that 😂
[–]b_a_d_r0b0t 95 points96 points97 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Be Henry Cavil
[–]BijuuModo 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
So when this sub says "work on yourself", does that essentially mean become a witcher?
[–]merchant_of_mirrors 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
or superman
[–]Narrow_Sea_8505 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
witchers are more badass tbh
[–]BijuuModo 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Witchers are way fucking cooler than Superman and it's not even close. That said, sadly I think Superman would wipe the floor with Geralt.
[–]DakiAge 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Geralt has a hot milf mother who can beat Superman, though.
She is a sorcerer.
[–]Narrow_Sea_8505 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Listen, I love both of Cavill's characters. The way he plays them both is superb. But if it wer eup to me,
I'd rather be a badass merciless white haired monster killer who would get his ass handed by Superman, than being an invincible, boy scout tbh
[–]BlackMustacheGuy 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
"Toss a coin to your Witcher, oh valley of plenty" Intensifies.
[–]BijuuModo 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I get so hyped when I hear that song, Jaskier writes nothing but bangers.
Men, strive to be a Geralt in all ways.
[–]BlackMustacheGuy 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hahah true that. Yeah. His songs are way better than what these present day mumble rappers produce. You mean, deep voice, platinum hair and eyes that change colour every now and then? Fair enough. 😅
[–]BijuuModo 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lil' B(ard) has the muses speaking to him, mumble rappers have benzos speaking to them.
[–]Pikappucinno 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Be yourself, unless you can be Batman. Then be Batman." - Anon
[–]fuckboychadlmao 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Literally the only advice you need in this sub
[–]SuperSultan 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
He’s actually a shut-in PC gamer
[–]b_a_d_r0b0t 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Doesn’t matter. Women don’t care about that. They care about looks, skin colour, height, popularity.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You forgot about the shoe size and zodiac sign
[–]kuavi 134 points135 points136 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The kind of guy women approach is the type of guy who knows how to and does approach women.
Otherwise you're hoping for essentially the same thing as winning the lottery, especially at a bar alone with no friends around.
[–]kris__666 74 points75 points76 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I was just reading a post where a guy went to a local dive bar/pool bar and sat on a couch and read a book and he had four girls approach him which had never happened to him before.
[–]kscotty84 42 points43 points44 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Make sure it's a real book. Otherwise they will think you are just on your phone.
[–]SexlessNights 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Any Dr. Seuss in particular?
[–]DakiAge -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Like Bible or Quran.
Girls love these books :)
[–]fuckboychadlmao 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t give away the game like that
[–]heroyi 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And not have the book upside down
[–]MrColfax 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That would actually work I think
[–]hachapurik 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Was it a book '' How to live with huge penis''?
[–]Fukb0i97 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Can you link that post please? :)
[–]kris__666 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/s78qr6/reading_a_book_in_a_dive_bar_actually_got_me/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
[–]slumxl0rd87 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah I saw that post, and I called bullshit. Neckbeard vibes/fantasy.
Whether the post itself was true or not, as a female I think this is something that could work. Many women don’t like to be approached unless it’s on their terms (for various reasons including creeper vibes and past sexual harassment/assault experienced) but they find it hard to approach a guy. If I saw a cute guy sitting alone on a couch reading a book, I think an easy way to break the ice would be as simple as asking what book it is.
[–]SpookyKG 78 points79 points80 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
How are you going to 'make' women make the first move? Why is this your goal?
Why waste your time sitting around literally waiting for life to happen?
[–]foghatyma 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. There are so many things you can't control about your life. Why on Earth would you give up on those that you can?
[–]SexlessNights 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Be super attractive
Have a lot of money and hire someone to talk to girls for you
Deal drugs
[–]GetBetter999 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In that order?
[–]gl0ry66 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Nah that won't work. Observe women at the bar, look for the ones you smile at you and or make obvious eye contact. Those are probably the women who are interested and you can approach.
[–]Blackmetalpenguin90 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
look for the ones you smile at you
That would literally leave me with 0 opportunity.
[–]ThankGod4Darwin69 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Then you need to work on yourself/level up until they do
[–]Blackmetalpenguin90 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Where do you live? Women don't just smile at people around here (Eastern Europe)
[–]ThankGod4Darwin69 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The UK but that's besides the point. The rules of engagement when it comes to sexual dynamics is the same worldwide.
You go in to a bar. Some women will ignore you. Some will glance your way. Some will glance your way and make eye contact. Some will glance your way, make eye contact AND smile.....Those are the ones that you want to approach.
[–]Blackmetalpenguin90 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If that were the case I could just commit suicide right now
[–]ThankGod4Darwin69 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I could just commit suicide right now
And you wonder why people don't smile your way lol. Damn dude!
[–]thelambofdeth 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Be attractive and extroverted
[–]mhdikarma 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah being extroverted is game changer
[–]xulyx 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Brooklyn’s gonna eat you alive boy.
[–]Owlmaster115 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fucking facts man lmao
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I had this happen to me a couple weekends ago. I sat at the bar (alone) and drank craft beer and pretty much interacted with everyone in a meaningful and- like everyone has said- confident way. Sure enough another group moves in close to the bar and even though her friends are at the table, a cute girl came up and sat next to me at the bar. We chatted up, kissed and exchanged numbers. I think the important thing is showing that you have a positive energy and command attention. You are sure of yourself and act rightly so.
Although, if she wouldn’t of came to me I would’ve approached her. So don’t make this your only option, be flexible.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes a few times but don’t do that to yourself or you’ll rarely have sex 😂. Girls are just too shy generally or think it’s improper or just prefer guys more proactive etc. But then again maybe you’re just stunning and can get away with it 🤷♀️Wish I could that would be nice.
[–]slumxl0rd87 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You want them to make the first move because you….have no game. That’s your problem. And the fact that you expect/want women to always make the first move proves that. Totally wrong mindset and I highly doubt you’re going to have any luck.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
He'll probably chicken out if a girl even approaches him. The kind of guys who get approached by women are very confident and masculine anyway, and they don't go to bars to wait and be approached by women, that's feminine behavior and mindset, or at least insecure and ego driven.
[–]fuckboychadlmao 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
He won’t be getting any approaches giving off that energy anyway
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Indeed, he needs to make some improvements on himself and not wait for women. They got options, he doesn't
[–]gl0ry66 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You tell em sir.
[–]HyakuShichifukujin 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, this is the wrong question. « Shy » is a euphemism for « lacking confidence » or « socially awkward ». These traits are not attractive to women. Your question should be, « how do I work on changing that? »
The vast majority of the time, the most you can realistically hope for is approach invitations - if she smiles at you and/or holds prolonged eye contact (especially more than once) or seems to hover around you, that’s a green light to do something - but you still need to act on it.
Women don’t need to make the first move because plenty of other men will if you won’t. I mean sure you might randomly get lucky here or there if you’re super attractive or have high status in a specific social situation, but this is not a long term or probabilistically reliable strategy.
If you just want to go out and relax and have fun and be comfortable, that’s perfectly fine, no judgment, just do that and enjoy yourself. But if you’re going out to meet women and the plan is to wait for them to come to you, you’re going to be waiting an awfully long time.
[–]beebeebee99 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Being shy isn’t a bad thing it doesn’t necessarily mean lacks confidence it could just mean they are sensitive and can still be seen as attractive even if they don’t like to instigate - I love shy guys and they aren’t unconfident
[–]HyakuShichifukujin 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
How often have you personally seen a guy sitting alone at a bar not approaching people, and decided to approach him unprompted?
Shy is fine as a girl since guys are going to approach you no matter what. Even if you, one particular girl, really likes shy guys and let’s say you prove me wrong and tell me you actually do approach tons of guys all the time, then that’s wonderful and more girls should be like you.
But, that would still make you the exception to the rule and not something a guy can expect to base his general strategy around and be successful in the long run.
I looked up the dictionary definition of "shy" for you.
"nervous or timid in the company of other people."
This is literally what unconfident means. If you say shy people are not unconfident it's like saying being week does not mean you're not strong.
[–]HyakuShichifukujin 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, there is a difference between « introverted » and « shy » though. I’m introverted by nature and enjoy being alone most of the time. But I don’t use it as an excuse for inaction.
« Sensitive » also means you easily react and are moved by outside forces, including what other people think and do. This is the opposite of a winning dating (and life, in general) mindset for men.
But being able to act, lead, and perform in social or dating settings can be developed regardless of being introverted. Not being a party animal as a default setting is fine; being a wuss is not.
And note none of this is a moral or character judgment. The claim is not that a shy or sensitive man is somehow a bad human being or should be ridiculed. Everybody deserves basic respect.
We’re simply stating that if the goal as a man is to get good at meeting and attracting women, claiming those traits as a rationale to not take action isn’t going to be conducive to reaching that goal.
[–]AnAngelOfVengeance 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
umm women rarely make the first move. like, I’ve spent 3-4,000 hrs in bars, I am attractive, and have only been approached maybe 10 times (twice in Boston tho so if you live there).
But since you asked, you need to wear a shirt that makes it easy for them to approach you with plausible deniability. Like ‘future trophy husband’ or a pink Hello Kitty shirt. She’ll say I hate your shirt but the fact she’s starting convo means she likes you and is a soft approach.
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[–]VorpalPaperclip 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He is asking how to do this exact thing though. Waiting to be approached isn't exactly “game” is it?
[–]AnAngelOfVengeance 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People who don’t approach don’t have game
[–]Nouseriously 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
1) be gorgeous
2) dress well, but not too formally
3) time travel to the 90s
[–]Wi1liamGoh 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Time travel to the 90s? What do u mean?
[–]Nouseriously 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Getting approached by a woman was 10x more likely before smartphones & internet dating sites existed.
edit: your competition used to be limited to guys who'd asked them out recently, now it's any guy they've seen a pic of on tinder
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just be hot, bro. Its that simple.
[–]5_7pickup 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is retarded. Women wont approach you and even when they do, it’s rare as fuck. Youll likely spend 20 hours at the club or bar with nobody approaching you. Meanwhile Ill spend 4 hours and talk to 15 girls.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Be tall, on steroids for over 5 years, tattoos, tan and fresh haircut. I have a friend like this that is approached by gorgeous women every time I'm out with him. He gets blowjobs in alleyways, invites to parties at apartments and sex from girls at the gym where the trash goes around the back. And he treats them like they're less than him
[–]i_love_crazy_hobos 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude just learn to approach the girls. Women don’t make the first move almost ever. Waiting for that is a losing game.
[–]megazordwhippin 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I drink at bars alone a bit. One thing that I’ve learned that really helps; make nice with the bartender.
If you can get the bartender to like you, they can be a wingman without really even doing a lot of work. I have two bars where I’m friends with the bartenders. They’ll yell my name when I walk through the door, and I’ll get attention without even asking for it.
[–]lowlink 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you look at her, she won't approach you, most of the time... Because she expects you to approach, then, as you're the man.
Try to not make eye contact with people, mostly just look with your peripheral vision. You have to be well dressed, good posture, all the basic shit, of course, but most important, is looking approachable: have open body language, look positive/happy, this type of stuff. Try to lure her in, pretend you're a bit distracted, but seem like a cool and open enough guy that she's not afraid to go talk to you.
That said, getting approached still very hard, you're better off trying to approach yourself. If you have eye contact with a girl, hold it for longer than 2 seconds, if she looks away, you can look away, if she looks down, that's a strong sign of attraction, most of the time. Try smiling, see how she reacts. All you need to do is walk to the girl, get near, do something for her to notice you (maybe eye contact, though in general you better off looking far into the distance and pretending you just happened to notice her, then resting your hand on her upper arm, very lightly, or give her a light poke), then once she notices you, aka is looking at you, you look at her and say hi, introduce yourself. It's not the end of the world lol
[–]Riente 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can't tell about bars, but I used to read books in public before the pandemic. The keys are just what you are expecting:
1-Be attractive
2-Don't be unattractive
[–]CompetitionFair7686 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The reality is more often than not you are the one who will have to make the first move. And i mean in 99% of cases.
[–]galactic_fury 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Here’s the truth: you’re probably not going to meet anyone.
Bar game is all about being social and timing. Most people don’t go to bars with the express goal of finding someone. They’re usually there for something else: socializing with friends, coworkers, trivia or some other things.
So how do you meet people? There’s a ton of material on this sun on bar game, but the most important one is just: time. Don’t expect something to happen every time you go out. Find something to do that you might like: is it a bar that plays sports on TV? Retro movies? That’s a great activity, because it’s a legit reason for being there by yourself. If not, have something interesting to read on your phone.
Be very courteous with the staff. If you’re a regular and tip well, they will come around to accepting you or in the best case, actively helping you. If you enter a bar and the bartender greets you with a smile, treats you well or hugs you, that’s instant social validation right there. For the bar staff, it’s their job. Make it easier for them by not being an impatient asshole and they will treat you well.
I’ve blabbered on for a while but the most important thing is to realize that bar game takes time, you won’t strike gold every time. Be consistent though, and you will succeed eventually.
[–]tristian_lay 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The best you can hope for from women are touchy flirty signs and then you have to step up
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wear a t-shirt that says "free hugs".
[–]YoDaddy1069 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What else do you want? Fish to start flying?
[–]itsthechamp2022 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Girls are not making the 1st man up
[–]whirleymon 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Easy. First continue human evolution down a path where women are more assertive than men and happy to select for timidness. Then make sure that this evolved form of humans remains adapted to their environment. That shouldnt take longer than 200K years. Your other option is to better understand the human mating process and grow a pair of balls.
[–]greyman0425 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go out, have fun talk to as many people as possible, male nd female. Key is have fun. Rinse repeat.
Once a woman sees you having fun, she will start sniffing around.
[–]human8ure 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Eye contact, smiling, get the green light to go talk to her first. Then signal her to approach you. Pat the empty stool next to you. If she hesitates, put your hand over your heart and look like it’s broken. Be relaxed and playful and just have a good time. I find that if I go out with the intention of meeting people and specifically not getting laid, all the pressure is off and i’m free to be fun and charming with zero to lose. Maybe I’ll give someone a pleasant evening and make her feel good about herself.
[–]kscotty84 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol the t-shirt idea I never tried going to be cold in NYC so if you bust on trip to the bathroom then put a jacket on its a funny idea. The book idea is classic, make sure it's a book on paper not phone. Remember you're alone you have nothing to lose if you try, crash, and burn. No reason to be embarrassed you will never see them again.
[–]MeteoraRed 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No women are designed to too be approached and they are generally passive by nature's design, ofcourse there are exceptions, women in bar already get hit by many men they won't have time for you ! One exception being if you are super good looking genetically gifted and super confident guy you might have chances.
Dont expect that unless you are extremly attractive or are famous!
Well, If you are silent and shy, then give me a reason out of the above ones that would attract a woman towards you by just looking at you.
Peace.
[–]rewinder909 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you're already shy it's better to approach them first. For the simple reason even If you get approached you won't know what to say and probably the conversation will die. Just go easy and start small say hi present yourself, or ask for something, then give a compliment, then try to talk more with her. Build up momentum with several interactions, you'll get used to it and it will be easier.
[–]Nefertiti2021 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Are u a man?
[–]Vv2333 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
You live in Brooklyn and want girls to approach first? 😭😭😭😭
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[–]Vv2333 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Only people from New York will get it.
[–]alexanderldn -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
so explain
[–]Vv2333 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
If you know you know. If you don't, go to NYC and go to Brooklyn and see for yourself.
[–]alexanderldn -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
its probably the same behavior in london
[–]Vv2333 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It isn't. It's not even close. NYC women are immensely different.
[–]alexanderldn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
cool i'm checking flights rn
[–]Vv2333 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good.
[–]skinticket02 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Get gender reasignment surgery and go to a lesbian bar.
[–]Nofapthrowaway2003 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Real shit, take a book to the bar, order a drink, and read the book. Girls will come at you left and right.
[–]Vv2333 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
How do you read a book with loud ass music playing is what I want to know lol
[–]Nofapthrowaway2003 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It works better in calmer bars, obviously not in clubs or anything like that. But girls dont normally see a dude reading at a bar and instantly are curious abt you. Theyll ask what the books about and right there youre in
[–]Vv2333 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Lmao I've never been to a calm bar so I'll have to search. But I've ALWAYS pined for a quiet bar where people can come in and read and enjoy a drink while they did so.
[–]Nofapthrowaway2003 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yeah those smaller chill areas are getting harder and harder to find. However i do think it is absolutely fucking alpha to read something like Shakespeare or Hemingway in the middle of the club. Youd get chicks throwing themselves at you!
[–]Vv2333 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I wonder how many other people would be interested in that kind of bar though. One that's like a late night library. Rarely would ever be an issue as people would just be sipping a drink and enjoying a book in silence or with soft music. Can also get the finest liquors and make it a more luxury experience.
[–]Nofapthrowaway2003 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Dude you wanna open up a bar w me?
[–]Vv2333 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We out 😎🤑🤣
[–]Nofapthrowaway2003 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😈😈😈 I see it already.
[–]reallyred11 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is this for ego boost/validation purposes?
[–]Electric_kundalini 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you want to be approachable, smile and give eye contact. Look like you’re having a great time and don’t take yourself seriously.
Women are far more likely to approach you if they are drunk or if they can sense you’re into them. They probably won’t be direct like us guys are, maybe she’ll bump into you by “mistake” and then it’s up to you to start the convo.
[–]MauPow 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Be extremely attractive. That's about it.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Follow rules 1 and 2
[–]dkNigs 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You want to be alone and approached in a bar? You’d best be quite attractive and capable of talking to anyone. Pick a bar where you can chat with the bar tenders between them being busy, because sitting totally alone and not chatting to everyone while you either people watch or stare at your phone isn’t appealing. The other option is to go to a busy bar where you might mingle or chat while lining up for drinks or around the dance floor.
Will NEVER HAPPEN. Best I’ve gotten was women inviting me up to their room on like one occasion, and I’ve talked to hundreds of women. Men have to make the first move when it comes to every step.
[–]Hoho2332 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
enjoy being your own company (like dancing yourself in the dance floor, some bars they do have dance floor), i was enjoying myself on night in the club and 3 girls just approached me
[–]stanthemilkman88 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mind control
[–]fiftypack 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I go to bars alone all the time. I’m a tall guy so I stand up to stretch etc often to create interest. I make friends with the bartenders and get noticed. I try to walk with confidence to the bathroom.
Work with your strengths. You’re still not going to get a lot of first moves but definitely women will at least try to get near you.
[–]YoDaddy1069 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only way you can get girls to approach you is if you have drugs. When I start smoking weed outside a bar, the ladies come to me
[–]TopBlacksmith160 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dress real good, smell real good, go out ALOT Eventually one will Or theyll give you the “YOU COULD FUCK ME IF YOU WANTED TO” eyes
[–]the_dude1995 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I use to go to a local rock/metal bar alone. One night, when I was literally just standing on the side, having a beer and enjoying the music, a girl came up to me and wanted me to dance with her. As always, it's confidence...
[–]Motor-Ice-4439 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
First, which do you have that you think would attract a woman? For example, I'm really tall, and good dancer, and very musical. I took years of ballroom dancing lessons which really helped me approach random women with confidence. Any guy struggling with approaching women, I highly suggest any ballroom partner dancing.
[–]Potential_Swimming83 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So I think the key thing here is to sit in the corner and look at your phone the whole time. Headphones in would also help.
Actually scrap that. Sit in the centre of the bar with a pirate style treasure map. Works for me.
[–]its_whot_it_is 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I find that squeezing my self into a billiards game work wonders in meeting people, sometimes girls want to get in on it and you can partner up
[–]cronasminate 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you are alone, just approach. As for getting approached, you should hang out with a male friend. Whenever I hangout with a girl, women women seem to just ogle or they wait until I'm alone. Totally different story when I'm with male friend.
When you are with a guy friend and just out to vibe, it's like women sense you are available and sociable.
[–]earsurgery9 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
be very good looking.
Have you ever had a woman make the first move on you at a bar?
VERY rarely, but my wingman has it about 5 times per night when we go out! Zero game is required for him. Girls do the work (making convo, escalating etc) - So it 100% happens, but you need to have hit the genetic lottery
[–]emkamina 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
throw dollar bills in the air and watch yourself being crowded by prettiest women in your wildest dreams
[–]ZombiFelineTuba 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It will never happen because they like playing mind games
[–]Schmutzbeutelmatzak 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why should girl make the first move when they get hit on constantly by hot guys they can choose from;)
[–]shusain2991 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro that's harsh truth... Rarely girls make the first move. Because they have infinite options. If you want to make them first move, you have to be unique which cannot be replaced
[–]TheGnosionaut 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you want them to make the first move, it's because you are not confident that you can approach sets. You're running in circles around your self to shelter your ego.
pick up a main role in a big hollywood movie or become a billionaire?
[–]AmputateYourHead 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dance. Well.
[–]aerosmith760 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can tell you right now there isn’t any amount of confidence, handsomeness you can have where a lady will shoot her shot. It never happens you have to shoot your shot.
[–]Arcchimedes 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Came to the wrong place bud lol. Gonna have to but up and go up to them. If you work hard enough on your style, mentality income and game you may get enough righteous confidence so women choose
[–]Noblejunior 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You’re a MAN you’re to WANT not to be WANTED like a woman. “A man is to want while a woman is to be wanted” law of nature Also when you desperately want a woman to approach you it won’t happen because first you’re not a celebrity, second women are shy even if they’re wild asf
[–]religiouskid 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Be sexy.
[–]Ducharbaine 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You don't make the move, the girls will not be interested. You're going to spend a lot of time by yourself in bars and clubs regardless of how fit you are, how well dressed you are, etc. Girls will make themselves available but without you making the move, nothing will happen.
[–]deplorable-bastard 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You better be tall handsome and reek of money.
[–]shittyfuckdick 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This happened to me on NYE.
I sat at the bar near the entrance. After a while a pretty girls sat next to me and started chatting with me. But she was a waiting for a friend and I think she was just bored and wanted to chat with a cute guy while she waited. I did get her number though.
[–]ChattyBot7 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You could if you always order top of the shelf drinks, wear an Armani suit, rock a Rolex and leave the keys of your Ferrari for everyone to see hoping that you'd attract women that are intrigued by such a lifestyle.
Or you're as attractive as underwear models or whatever beauty standards exist for men that makes women approach first.
If you're neither of the above examples then good luck attracting women without making the first move by yourself.
[–]NewCommonSensei 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Never gonna happen stop living in fairy tale world an be a man who says hello to women it’s not difficult at all
[–]Better_Ad499 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Watch the movie, “Don’t tell her it’s me” literally, a summation of what everyone said.
[–]Retrobadass 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Read how to be a 3% man,it tells you how to pick up any woman you want
[–]GhilbiShi 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just be you, the moment you're confident in your own skin, with your own self, THAT will invite a lot of us. But yeah, just don't freeze, or try to impress, that often looks tooo desperate, just be you.
[–]Corndesu69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Follow rule 1 and 2
[–]Aaron_77777 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Try to make eye contact with a girl and then smile at her. Do it a couple of times , then gesture her to come towards you.
[–]No-Department6252 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
stop cold approaching women like this is 2009 or something. if a woman is not actively trying to seduce you are not attractive in her eyes. women know who they want to fuck and who is going to fuck after .5 seconds of seeing a guy. no point in cold approaching if she fundamentally doesn't find you attractive. women will literally approach you if she finds you attractive but it's subtle. only focus on the women that want you and if the women you want are not attractive become better looking. it all starts with understanding women
[–]alexanderldn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
the night a woman makes a move on you in the bar will be the night they lay you in your coffin.
never gonna happen unless you are Jeff Bezos or Brad Pitt.
go get up and say hi
[–]Flaming_S_Word 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This will get lost in the comments, but:
Social Momentum, and Social Proof.
Social Momentum = Talk to anyone. 'Flirt' with everyone. Guys, girls, doesn't have to be pretty. Be silly, friendly, simple. "oh nice shirt dude", "smile Hi I'm flaming_s_word, what's your name?" You'll feel safer, they'll smile, you'll smile, you'll start to feel like you belong more. As you feel that, confidence goes up, you stand straighter, you're having a better time.
Social Proof = As girls start to see you being friendly with many people, they may recognize you as someone who is friendly and approachable. They may not approach you but you could catch them glancing your way, and that can be a subtle sort of invitation for you to walk up and say hi to them.
In essence, and I know this sounds paradoxical, but don't make girls the goal - Make enjoying yourself the goal. Work on learning how to do that and your SM/SC will go up, you'll have an easier time going out, and conversations will come more naturally.
Good luck bro
[–]IllDeleteThisUNsoon 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A van. If you put someone in a van they will definitely make the first move and say anything to get out of that van.
[–]argumentativepigeon 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Raise your eyebrows slightly.
[–]mmboy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you go to the bar and mind your own business, maybe read a book if it's day time, people can't help but bother you.
[–]epimpstyle 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are the hunter dude, you must make the first move.
Alone in a bar is not a good idea, you look like you lost your job or maybe you are depressed :-))
Instead of sitting alone at the table is better if you stay outside the building, near the door, you will see all the girls who enter/leave the building and nothing stops you to enter inside the building right behind a girl, actually, she opens the door but you will close the door: "ops, sorry... is cold outside..." <--- you did the first move :-)
[–]Organic_Pack1211 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go to a club and dance. I’m an introvert, I hate dancing, and I don’t have much experience. However, when I go out alone and dance women come up to me and start the conversation. It might sound crazy but since I started going out back in October I was never the first to initiate which is surprising
[–]gokeke 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The plain and simple way to make girls approach you in a bar setting is just be super attractive, whether it’s by clothing or looks. Form yourself to be super attractive, and like bees to honey and flies to food, the women will start approaching you with no effort on your part.
[–]denali_HD2020 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women are weak, very few will ever approach a man they are interested in. It's on you to make things happen.
[–]wka007 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wear a tee shirt the says "Ask me about my..." and fill in the blank with something. Ideas:
1) Top Secret Clearance 2) multipurpose tool 3) nickname, Tripod 4) Paranormal Investigators Certification 5) Meaty Wenis
Just for starters...
[–]1ecommillionReasons 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Quit being lazy. If they've glanced your way more than 2 times ... they already have made the first "move". You're just failing to make the 2nd, and in need of learning non-verbal communication. I actually had a cute female wave at me while at the gas station.
What you're trying to say with words is, I want them to come up to me first. I guess it's time to hit the gym to actually become the best version of yourself that you can be, if they aren't already doing that. Laziness just isn't ever the answer. Few people will get something in exchange for doing barely anything.
Idea 2 - wear something so intriguing it forces them to ask you what the heck is that. And/or stand out. Dress like crocodile dundee or something.
Idea 1 - give more and you'll get more. As in, make the 2nd move after they've given you some very clear "first moves" via non-verbal communication.
[–]ace_qk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The simplest answer to this: Enjoy yourself while you are alone. I don’t want to give tips cos it should truly be natural but if you’re sitting laughing to ‘yourself’ because you’re on the phone or watching a podcast or whatever.
Girls/People will naturally come closer to you, it’s hard to verbalise but there was a vid I saw on here one time of 2 guys randomly dancing in the street, then 3 girls walking past just joined them. Something like, create your own fun & everyone will wanna take part
[–]Charge36 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly waiting for others to make a move is a losing strategy. Yes if you dress nice and look approachable some people may make a move, but you are muuchhh better off initiating contact. Talk to everyone you see. It might make other people notice and approach you because they see you being such a sociable person
[–]Ectoplasmic1984 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this burden will forever be on the guys shoulders
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