What advice do you give to below 6' guys to vote in the Modern dating world?

Valuable-Marzipan761 · 2022-09-18T19:00:25+00:00

Is there a certain age cut off under which no-one meets together in person? Seems crazy how many people don't even consider offline dating to be a realistic option.

tinasnow-poty · 2022-09-18T21:41:48+00:00

Height is only really an issue for guys 5’8 and below. The majority of women aren’t turning down a guy they really vibe with in person, just because he’s not 6ft. I’m not even convinced most short girls can tell someone is 6ft by sight. I deffo cant. Online is different, women can afford to filter out 5’10 guys but if they were to meet in person his height wouldn’t be as big as a concern. And there is a loud, loud online space that like to body shame men but again in real life they don’t have these standards

Also I don’t think “29% of couples meet online” counts as most people.

DRliveseyyy · 2022-09-18T19:13:43+00:00

Realise first that in the real world, being below 6” isn’t as bad as it is portrayed on this sub

Gtedx · 2022-09-18T20:38:27+00:00

Make more money. Get ripped. Work on your personality. Make more friends. Be a fun person to be around. There's so many things you can do. Stop making excuses. Leave the house and go do SOMETHING every day.

baldingestsubhuman · 2022-09-18T22:41:45+00:00

Just turn around and walk away lmao. Your genes are vile and as such your intentions impure no matter what the context or situation. You will be laughed at. You will be ridiculed. You will be expelled from your place of business. You will be ostracized. You will be arrested. You will be brought to the brink of suicide. You will reach out. You will be pushed away. It will be your fault, for your genes are vile and as such your intentions impure. The modern woman is for the tallest, strongest, most wealthy man. Do not associate if you are not him.

Isolation_Man · 2022-09-19T06:48:44+00:00

I literally don't know and at this point i don't even care. I know I'm going to die a virgin.

risdeveau · 2022-09-18T19:20:57+00:00

Please look at the people around you to verify that that is a load of baloney

beidameil · 2022-09-18T19:00:38+00:00

Best is warm approaching in social circles. The key is to befriend your "target" and see where it goes from there. Danger is to friendzone her but is outweighs the benefit of getting rejected early on. If you get along well you can clearly see if she is into you or no.

Or dumpster dive in non-Tinderish dating apps.

taekwondoc · 2022-09-18T19:41:06+00:00

Just discovered this community while I was browsing through reddit about leg lengthening surgery. Less so because I want it but more so because I read an article about it and I wanted to read some experiences of folks who went through the procedure.

Anyways, I fell into the rabbit hole of reading some of the threads here. Let me start off by saying that as a guy who is single since birth and now at mid 20s, I feel your struggle. But let me share what made me feel better these last few months.

I got into a leadership position of some sort. It’s so insignificant too so it shouldnt be too hard to achieve. And for some reason, this helped me to approach people better. And people to approach me, including women. Some instances are even flirty I guess (?). We she did jokingly hold my hand… Well anyway I’m still so clueless about dating and relationships because I have no prior experience so I let that opportunity slip by.

Point is, investing on yourself shouldnt be too drastic or expensive either. Just put yourselves out on positions of responsibility and people will be nicer to you, at least.

kellydayscruff · 2022-09-18T18:58:22+00:00

People take what happens on the internet and use it to completely discount what happens in real life.

14ers4days · 2022-09-18T20:49:29+00:00

Don't use dating apps even if you're over 6'. Haven't we established by now that those apps are good only for spreading mental illness and STDs?

BreezyBritt89 · 2022-09-18T22:03:06+00:00

You’re overthinking this. In the real world men under 6’ get happily taken/married pretty regularly. I only ever see the hyperbolic black and white type thinking defeatist stuff online.

HazyMemory7 · 2022-09-18T19:58:12+00:00

My advice to any man wouldn't change based on height. Lift weights, become financially successful, obtain status, start approaching women to improve your social skills.

The advice would be the same, what changes is that the shorter you are the more successful you have to be in each of those aspects. Instead of making $100k at 6ft to get a really attractive girl, maybe you need $270k at 5'6. Instead of being just fit, maybe you need a top 1% physique.

Therein lies the problem, the extent to which short guys have to go to match up with taller guys can be daunting. I'm 6ft and put it in my profile, but I do wonder how many women i've matched with would've swiped left if I was say, 5'7 instead.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2022-09-18T19:12:12+00:00

Spend 90 percent of your efforts on real life and only like 10 percent of your time on OLD.

SeasonPositive6771 · 2022-09-18T21:18:05+00:00

Considering the fact that most men are under 6 ft tall, it's the same advice I'd give any other man. People obsessed with the tiny minority of women who are looking for an over 6 ft tall dude need to go outside and look around, at a mall or a bus stop or somewhere busy. Plenty of very happy relationships for shorter men abound.

begrydgerer · 2022-09-18T21:27:09+00:00

Join a yoga or dancing class and learn some bullsh1t about horoscopes, crystals and or pretend to be a vegan. U will smash good looking low IQ fems. You're welcome.

ManWazo · 2022-09-18T20:33:22+00:00

Warm approaching and dating in the social circle/friends is a no too cuz you can get a bad reputation

Depends how you do it. Of course if you dont respect boundaries of people in your social circle you'll get ostracised, but you deserve it. Otherwise you just get the "willing to date" reputation, which means people will try to hip up on you.

But the best overall is like with stocks: dont put all your eggs in the same basket.

Perfect_Promise_943 · 2022-09-18T22:35:51+00:00

We all have preference. I’m sure if someone were to ask you for your perfect gf you would say a model, most men want a gf that looks like a model, however, rarely do men say “eeew you are pretty but you are not model pretty”.

Women may say they want a 6+ feet man, they will take a lot shorter though

shadowofdoubt13 · 2022-09-18T23:50:36+00:00

Become valuable and important

darkvalleys · 2022-09-18T18:50:02+00:00

You’re fine

Please take a look at the people around you to see just how fine

*btw, there are entire ethnicities under 6 feet. Have you noticed that ? If not, why not, hm?

TheRedPillRipper · 2022-09-18T19:04:42+00:00

I’m like 5’10

5’10 checking in. Growing up I had “Little man Syndrome.” Struggled with it, because all my family(bar my dad and I) are big humans(6ft, 220+). I could’ve dwelt on that insecurity, but chose not to. Instead it fuelled me. Developed solid eating, and training habits. Focused on the positives. Started being more appreciative. Generally became happier. That all helped build confidence.

Socially had always been outgoing. Learning to read the room though, is just a skill. That just takes experience. So putting yourself in position to learn is pivotal. Social circles. Hobbies. Team sports. All avenues to pursue not just your interests, but join the communities that share them.

Ultimately though it’s on you. If you’re not getting the outcomes you want; you gotta put in the work to change.

Godspeed and good luck!

wtknight · 2022-09-18T21:43:40+00:00

Just date shorter women. I'm 5'8" and have dated two 5'6" women and married one of them so I've never thought that height was a big deal.

Height has only been a big deal for me the few times that I was into taller women, but I'm sure that there are a few guys who can pull this off, even if I'm not one of them.

ruboyuri · 2022-09-18T20:31:39+00:00

What advice? Maybe touch grass and notice that men around you under 6 feet are fuckin’?

ViolentTakeByForce · 2022-09-18T21:18:20+00:00

Dude the height thing isn’t as big of a deal outside the 304’s on dating apps. I’m 5’10 and if that has ever stopped me from having women talk to me or closing, it wouldn’t be significant enough to notice.

Looks maxing is key.

DiligentProgresses · 2022-09-18T18:48:59+00:00

Just saw this article

It can take months to slowly lengthen the bones and for the legs to heal. Debiparshad told GQ: "There's a mental discipline that you have to have. It's like training for the marathon."

The doctor revealed that many of his patients are tech workers from big firms like Google, Amazon, Microsoft, and Meta.

Like fuck why not just pay a hooker at that point

howdoiw0rkthisthing · 2022-09-18T20:20:17+00:00

Improve your looks in every other way possible, i.e. hit the gym, get a skincare routine, a new wardrobe/haircut, etc.
Seek out girls shorter than you. Most women don’t care if a guy is over 6’, just that he’s taller than her.

As for meeting women in person, rather than online, that’s been rehashed here a million times and is honestly a good portion luck. Many men complain about the type of girls they meet in bars and nightclubs, or the difficulty of picking them up. But an anecdote that may actually be helpful: I have a friend who met her longterm boyfriend at a bar, but it was a chill Biergarten type place, not a huge nightclub, and it was at a casual after-work hangout with coworkers, so pretty tame and in the early hours of the evening, not 1 am. Basically, a place where alcohol has people chatting strangers up and having a good time but where your ears aren’t ringing and everyone isn’t trashed.

no-304s · 2022-09-18T18:52:54+00:00

Be a man and approach. Why are you thinking that you have to do a PUA routine? Go say hi. How do you think your father or grandfather did it?

You want to take the safest path which is online dating or wanting women to approach you. Online dating doesn't work because of the flood of supply. Women will never approach you except indirectly. Chances are that if they do approach you you will not have the confidence to do anything with it if you can't walk up to and talk to women.

Stop caring about being called a creep. It's a worthless term. Women feel flattered by being approached and of course men want to fuck women. There is nothing creepy about that. It is a part of every human society for thousands of years. Spend less time reading what mentally ill women write about on TwoX or wherever lol

januaryphilosopher · 2022-09-18T18:54:24+00:00

Where did that statistic come from?

The best advice I can give is not to be hung up on your height starting with five as realistically that won't be what makes or breaks it. Instead of thinking through all these hypotheticals and guessing at how normal height men can find a date, you could just look at actual data or visual evidence and see that really, most of these men get to date, and it isn't impossible. Ask your friends how they met people despite not being yetis if you're unsure.

Niadom · 2022-09-18T19:16:04+00:00

I'm 5'11". I used to live in the country with the tallest people in the world and women would still check me out and eye rape me.

But from reading your post it doesn't seem you are actually interested in fixing your problem. You are shooting down all modern means of dating which tells me you are too scared and anxious and prefer to find excuses to let you off the hook. Women are repulsed by cowards.

Diddy_1978 · 2022-09-18T19:46:31+00:00

It’s complete bs. A small minority of women only want 6ft guys. Guys of all heights find sex, love, relationships and have wives and children.

Stop_Maximum · 2022-09-18T19:01:37+00:00

I would say be natural and be yourself. If that is meant to happen, then it will happen. Don’t get too obsessed with dating, it will not end well. Instead where possible learn from the experience. Don’t think too much about the end, it’s not always guaranteed

PresentMission2022 · 2022-09-18T19:38:37+00:00

Date girls shorter than you. There are plenty. Otherwise change countries.

NoncomprehensiveUrge · 2022-09-18T22:31:09+00:00

Most people inflate their height and stats on dating apps. 5’10 people will absolutely claim 6’ and get away with it. You can definitely claim 1-2 in. extra while not being called out.

InfoVariety-8842 · 2022-09-18T20:10:01+00:00

I’m 5’10” and use OLD all the time to meet people. I don’t really think about my height that much

Stunning-Potato-1984 · 2022-09-18T22:11:07+00:00

I would say get a social life and friends.

Top-Science4419 · 2022-09-19T01:00:26+00:00

Don't date.

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LaloTwins · 2022-09-18T18:53:24+00:00

Vote Bernie Bro think he's the pretty short

asshole67throw · 2022-09-18T20:34:32+00:00

My advise would be in person singles events. The sort where 100 people of each gender turn up.

It’s so much easier than online dating, no photos posing bullshit, no games, no swiping, and being left on read - if it goes very well you can get a hotel that night there and then.

Usually people go to this events alone too. So you don’t have to worry about approaching a group, everyone’s there with the same idea wanting to meet someone.

tookiebird86 · 2022-09-18T22:25:41+00:00

to get a passport, get some gainful knowledge/skillset in terms of working remotely doing something (of course getting paid)...and get on the next thing smoking out of the country. Mating and dating scene here is abysmal, it's over...it's dead lol

toastedtomato · 2022-09-19T02:18:46+00:00

The advice I follow and would give would get removed under rule 9

Maquiaveh · 2022-09-19T03:16:21+00:00

Live a great life, be in shape, be chsrismatic, earn good moneu and almost no woman will care if you are 5'10. Maybe if you are 5'8.... C

meddit-throwaway · 2022-09-19T03:31:16+00:00

If you're a 5'10 or above man and using dating apps, do yourself a favour and just put 6' on your profile. If you're really concerned about women calling you out on it, get heel lifts which you can put into your shoes, or shoes with elevated heels.

Cold approaching is a no-no cuz the success rate is extremely low, and I don't want to make others uncomfortable and do to them what I wouldn't enjoy others do to me.

Some women love getting approached, it shows confidence and not many men do it. The success rate is low if you're not good at it. Practice makes perfect.

InfamousBake1859 · 2022-09-19T03:48:50+00:00

Why are the under 6 guys insistent in saying women who prefer over 6? Like seriously.

Change your target. Stop trying to date someone who already decided they won’t be attracted to you.

from a wife married to a husband who’s probably shorter than 5’10” Edit: i say probably because he never told me… well in the beginning he said he was 5’11”. My brothers are 5’11”; he’s definitely at least 1-3 inches shorter but i never made him measure because i didn’t care

IcarusKiki · 2022-09-19T04:08:17+00:00

Be a cool person and meet women irl and she wont gaf about your height. Women are picky about height on OLD bc its one of the only objective factors she can guarantee.

Ramzabeo · 2022-09-19T04:16:58+00:00

Before it used to be that talking to women you like as the boys gives a better success rate because you're less likely to fuck up by overthinking what to say, and you're more likely to come off suave.

Now? my biggest advice would be to not let negative thoughts cloud your judgement, i know that the dating scene has changed, but if you go into every encounter thinking "Oh i'm not 6', i'm not muscular, i'm not in the 6 figure range she'll never like me, betabuxing" etc then you're way more likely to fail, not only but every failure will jade you even more.

I mean before people just took rejection on the chin and moved on, now they have to find 100 reasons why it happened and how the whole female gender is crap.

I'm only 28 and i feel like i'm worlds apart from the current dating scene since ive been married for 10 years.

aleheart · 2022-09-19T04:27:01+00:00

Move to bulgaria, work remotely, and have hot bulgarian babes get interested in u cuz u got some money money it folds and ur this western interesting outlander

CatchPhraze · 2022-09-19T04:28:06+00:00

Most couples don't meet online. Less then half do. and that includes non dating themed online activities like gaming and hobby boards and social media.

Basically old is a fraction of a fraction and y'all are way over valuing its market share, imho because it's the lowest effort and thus the most appealing .

pretentiously · 2022-09-19T04:51:19+00:00

Puzzleheaded_Brick34 · 2022-09-19T05:32:02+00:00

Lie about your height

worldwearywitch · 2022-09-19T06:21:24+00:00

"80% of women" - is there a real statistic/study for this? I don't think that so many women only date very tall guys.

Sauron_78 · 2022-09-19T08:38:18+00:00

Do you ever get choosing signals? Let's say you are at the gym and you go to a cardio class of some sort, do you ever get women glancing at your direction?

Ashinwinter · 2022-09-19T14:19:19+00:00

Btw how old are you? And what age ranges are you looking at? I would say you should thank those women who put such a strict filter because you probably would not want to be with them. Online dating gives the illusion of abundance, but theres a lot to wade through. Try meetups for more organic common interest activities. When i used to do online dating i would try to filter wide ranges, below and above what i would want, the next round based on first impression of pics, but really strict after chatting.

KissMyAsthma-99 · 2022-09-19T14:34:48+00:00

The key is obvious: in person interest groups.

It doesn't matter what it is, just find something that you are interesting in. Rock climbing, church, square dancing, etc. Find something that is a group activity that interests you and get plugged in. You'll be in person and have the opportunity to interact with people who share interests. Go from there.

M3101997 · 2022-09-19T14:38:53+00:00

I met all my previous and current gf of 1yr on the dating apps. I’m not 6ft and I’ve had no issues attracting girls and getting girlfriends. I once got insecure about height and bought height boosting insoles for my shoes that got me up to 6ft with shoes on and it made 0 difference, my gf and other girls I dated in the past didn’t even notice the difference of 2 inches.

Just don’t list your height on the apps.

MC-Purp · 2022-09-19T15:13:51+00:00

Well, seems like you’ve rationalized yourself out of the dating pool bro. You might want to go back to the drawing board.

Warm approaching has always been the most successful for me in the past. Women aren’t some mysterious evil, they aren’t just waiting for the opportunity to fuck with you. Treat them like humans, and be respectful, you’ll be fine.

TheCaribbeanRedditor · 2022-09-19T17:23:17+00:00

Really weird how people have so many issues with things they've never tried.

As someone who's 5"7 I'll put in my 2 cents.

Online dating doesn't work well for me - the ones I wanted weren't interested and the few who were were unnatactive to me.

"Cold approach is a no-no". Why? I've had reasonable success cold approaching. Rarely have I gotten the impression that women were uncomfortable. On the occasions I did, I jusr bounced and moved onto someone else.

My advice to fellow short men is to max out your other stats- dress well (different colours, styles, stand out but not flamboyantly), get in shape, have interesting hobbies and skills, etc.

Ditch glasses, get good haircuts, etc. These make a significant difference

Porkchopsandwich01 · 2022-09-19T19:22:44+00:00

Do nothing nature is taking its course and weeding midgets out

zombieggs · 2022-09-19T20:17:20+00:00

Do eighty percent of women have the filter or do eighty percent with the filter put only 6+

Mediocre-Sherbert528 · 2022-09-19T20:31:04+00:00

Join a club, get a hobby, go out and meet people. Don't over analyse it.

HobbitShaker88 · 2022-09-20T03:59:50+00:00

Not a single woman I know IRL, other than one 6 ft woman Ive met, filters men the way you describe.

lonelyredheadgirl · 2022-09-21T08:34:41+00:00

Wait, you’re 5’10 and you think women turn you down because of your height? I think you need to reassess because 99% of the time YOUR height is not a factor at all about why you’re getting rejected.

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