Why not liking sluts is such a big thing for women?

howdoiw0rkthisthing · 2024-03-24T13:07:58+00:00

What hookers do is equivalent to murder and assault

That’s already enough PPD for today

Custard-Gyal · 2024-03-24T04:51:26+00:00

Women openly talk about how they don't like predators, misogynistic men, they don't like physically aggressive men who slap or strangle women and other men.

Then why as a man women do not want me to talk about sluts.

You need to re-read this lmao. The answer is clear. It's because sluts are not a physical danger to you.

BrownEyed-Susan · 2024-03-24T05:02:48+00:00

Murdering people is equivalent to having sex for money?

What…

Few_Advertising3430 · 2024-03-24T05:02:42+00:00

“Sluts” do not create any physical danger to anyone. What do you mean flaunt their sexuality ? Do they come and put your face between their boobs ? You can ignore them. Sex workers do their job, provide release to the one who pays them in exchange for money. Who is getting hurt ?

Novadina · 2024-03-24T07:11:02+00:00

What is your definition of slut? Men have typically called me a slut for things I have no control over - like my body shape or my voice, especially if I don’t have sex with them. I’ve never actually had a man call me a slut for having sex with him - men actually tend to like that. So while many people claim the definition of slut is something about having a lot of sex, the way men use it it’s almost more like the opposite, or “not fucking me while possessing a body I want to fuck”. So I’m curious what your definition is.

Isn't it evident to women that men excel in physical violence due to their physical power advantage, while women's strength lies in their sexuality? A married woman could easily manipulate a man by flirting with him.

Are you saying flirting with someone is like beating them up???

Female sex workers are equivalent to hitmen or individuals who break others' legs for money.

Lmao what??? You can easily say “no” to a sex worker and be on your way. If someone wants to kill you, you can’t just say no and have them move on. Most people who want sex work seek it out, it’s not forced on you.

Laws and governments are restraining male advantages while allowing women to exploit their sexuality to prey on lonely, desperate, and mentally weak men.

Are you saying it’s unfair women can sell photos of themselves, but you aren’t allowed to rape someone? What the fuck? Please get some help dude.

Ones men start realizing this - they'll stop following laws and lose faith in government and legal system. And they'll go back to harnessing their natural advantage of brotherhood, comradery, controlling women.

Sounds like you’ve “realized this” since you’re announcing it. So do you have kidnapped women in your basement or what? And you’ve told your friends and they are doing it also?

Why does society overlook the psychological harm caused by women's sexuality, unlike the physical harm caused by men's physical strength?

Most people aren’t harmed by sex, in fact they tend to enjoy it a lot. The fact you think normal consensual sex is “harmful”, but rape is just a “natural advantage” is really psycho, I hope you realize that…

_Bene_Gesserit_Witch · 2024-03-24T06:08:00+00:00

You do realise that it takes two to do damage through consensual sexual activity? Men are responsible for where they put their penis, unless they are being raped. Promiscuous irresponsible men are equally to blame for the erosion of social the fabric, they are no different to sluts in any way. A slut couldn't exist in a vacuum.

When a man uses his natural born advantage at physical violence there is always one loser and one winner, and the loser is an unwilling participant. When a slut fucks a married man, he does so willingly, fully knowing the consequences and he still nuts.

Your examples aren't even remotely the same. It's mind boggling the lack of basic logic you need to have to come to the conclusions you have. Honestly, a frightening loss of reason.

Why do you insist on ignoring the harm done by male sexuality? You are both physically more powerful, and sexually more driven, yet you want to point the finger at sluts?

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2024-03-24T05:50:30+00:00

Pretty sure selling sex isn't on the same level as murder. But I didn't expect much more from the dude who claims he gets scammed while buying groceries because he has no woman to do that for him.

Solondthewookiee · 2024-03-24T06:48:40+00:00

Female sex workers are equivalent to hitmen or individuals who break others' legs for money.

No. A hitman can kill me even if I don't want him to. A woman cannot seduce me if I don't want her to.

-Shes-A-Carnival · 2024-03-24T13:23:07+00:00

men are telling young women that they are damaged harmed and devalued by having sex with men, yet at the same time men want them to have sex with them. men are telling young women thattheir dicks make them dirt,y, used up and spoiled, yet they want porn sex from some "girlfriend". men are telling young women expressing their sexuality and sexual desires makes them dirty. we had an entire feminist and sexual revolution in the west to get rid of these attitudes and to sexually emancipate women, maybe they dont appreciate being put back into that box

metasekvoia · 2024-03-24T07:00:36+00:00

Morally equating flirting with rape? Making women responsible for men's lust? Next step burqas, perchance?

N-Zoth · 2024-03-24T04:55:59+00:00

Why does this post read like an AI trying to understand humans? Grown adults aren't generally trying to coerce each other through physical violence or emotional manipulation.

Are you in high school?

mandoa_sky · 2024-03-24T04:52:18+00:00

My favourite online incident was when I was called a Slut by a dude I didn't want to go on a date with, whilst I was a virgin at the time.

wouldn't that make me an oxymoron? LOL

another incident was when i was called a slut for having the "audacity" to want to go on a few dates in a public place first, before deciding if i wanted to pursue things further.

the word has completely lost all meaning to me at this point.

UpbeatInsurance5358 · 2024-03-24T08:14:29+00:00

Because calling women "sluts" is to "other" them. This means that they're not human. And we know what happens when people don't consider women human. Women die when men feel this way.

RatchedAngle · 2024-03-24T12:35:45+00:00

Men: I want sluts to have sex with me and create porn for me to jerk off to, and I would be furious if all porn disappeared tomorrow

Also men: but porn stars and sluts should exist only on the outskirts of society

If you derive any benefit from sluts, you lose all rights to complain about them. Including your wife, daughter, sister being one.

shestammie · 2024-03-24T04:44:27+00:00

Why psychological harm caused by women's sexuality goes unpunished in society unlike physical harm causes by men's physical strength.

This is just not reality. Men giving half their wages to women selling bath water and used underwear is not women’s fault. You just don’t have any self respect and can’t be bothered to get any. Sort yourselves out, you’re embarrassing.

paputsza · 2024-03-24T05:00:56+00:00

Okay, so I have a manner of reasons.

because cap. Men do like sluts. Women don't like sluts. Most men like women who just want to have sex. There's just not that many of them so there's really no time. I also think it's a matter of "who fucking asked." Do I go around the place calling guys out for thin eyebrows? No. Almost never. Also, men imply women are sluts just because they're physically attracted to them. That's locking yourself out of a good place because you think you're beneath her.
the term means basically nothing. It can mean a woman who has sex before marriage. It can mean a woman who shows physical interest in a man's smile. Literally, anything at all so basically it's a loaded question like any other insult. Them's is fighting words.
the dating market opens any woman up to be a slut. There are women out there who would rather not have an orgasm during sex because it's makes them feel like a loose woman. Generally, sexuality for women is frowned upon, even by other women. Society expects women to only be seen as sexual objects. Since orgasms are great for people in general and so a woman's enjoyment of them makes us insecure and so we're vulnerable to insults.

Safinated · 2024-03-24T06:41:37+00:00

The hypocrisy/double standard about sex, obviously. Men like sex, and don’t like that women like sex

There is no hypocrisy/double standard about not liking assault, rape, perving, etc. Neither men nor women like it

test_code_in_prod · 2024-03-24T08:03:27+00:00

I find it hard to believe this isn’t a troll, what sane human has this take?

womandatory · 2024-03-24T05:15:50+00:00

Wait, men’s ‘advantage’ is being physically stronger so they can overpower women. Women’s ’advantage’ is being sexually appealing to men. Right?

In both these scenarios, men have a choice. They have a choice to be or not be violent and use their physical strength to overpower others, and they have a choice to not be led on by or influenced by an attractive woman simply going about her day.

What the fuck do either of these scenarios have to do with women engaging in behavior you term ‘being sluts’?

AllergicIdiotDtector · 2024-03-24T05:45:42+00:00

Man, I hope you are trolling. Your fourth paragraph, that says sex workers are on the same level as hitmen, or people who break others legs, is the most seriously factually and objectively wrong moral stance (and I say this as somebody who thinks almost of all of morality is subjective) that untrue, least thought out opinion of ethics, and most off the mark thing I've ever seen.

Could you elaborate as to why you think sex workers are just as bad as hitmen? I can understand, but disagree, your suggestion that Sex workers and the average woman in general do have the capacity to use their sexual appeal to manipulate men, but surely even if all women did manipulate men with their sex appeal, that is not nearly as immoral as being or using a hitman?

Like dude. I'm sure 99.9% of the people and every response I've seen who have read your comments and posts in general would agree that you seriously need therapy and you really ought to self reflect and think long and hard about why you have the stances you do.

EulenWatcher · 2024-03-24T05:20:14+00:00

Because people don’t view physical strength and sexuality as equivalent things and because violence harms everyone and is destructive to society.

Have you heard about a terrorist attack in Russia? Or maybe about the wars currently going on? These are extreme examples of violence.

concretecannonball · 2024-03-24T12:59:34+00:00

Women don’t want you to “discuss sluts” because men criticize women for having multiple sexual partners while praising men for doing the same.

A woman’s power does not lie in her sexuality. You just think it does because you only view women through a lens where a woman’s personhood and value is attached to her attractiveness.

Do you really think men are so awful and disgusting that engaging in sex with one somehow degrades a woman?

Men who are violent people are different from “sluts” and it’s worrisome that you think a violent man and a woman with more sexual partners than your personal liking are the same.

Female sex workers are not … you know, hurting and killing people. Violent men, however …

MuseBoo · 2024-03-24T14:50:04+00:00

This sounds like a skill issue if you're this easily manipulated by your own dick, just sayin'.

ohdiddly · 2024-03-24T11:03:40+00:00

Because you’re massive hypocrites more often than not (and liars). You say you hate sluts but are more than happy to essentially ‘create’ them by having sex with them.

Comparing women who have consensual sex, to men who are sexual predators, murderers and misogynists is fucking insane.

januaryphilosopher · 2024-03-24T13:45:58+00:00

Nobody likes being called a slur like slur and most would also object to calling other people names. There is no "discussion" coming from men on this topic, simply insults and loud screams that they never want to go near these disgusting people which are hurtful even if you have no intention of ever sleeping around. Often reducing all women to their sexual choices and making everyone feel gross. Who you do or don't sleep with is meant to be of ultimate importance and hurt everyone, teaching women to associate shame with sex, whereas you seem to think men sleeping with anyone or insulting anyone just has no impact. Sexuality has never been a strength for women, it's been one of their main means of subjugation, there's a reason why men wanting to put women down nearly always resort to something sexual. (And prostitutes are extremely likely to be victims of violence/rape/murder, not to perpetrate, so I don't know why you're blaming all these evils on them.)

KayRay1994 · 2024-03-24T17:13:18+00:00

Did you legit just compare being a slut to being a predator

MidoriEgg · 2024-03-24T21:05:29+00:00

This is the type of thing you read in someone’s manifesto to justify some really fucked up shit lol.

Laila_kiss07 · 2024-03-24T06:42:05+00:00

Men love and hate sluts at the same time lol

dreamsummit · 2024-03-24T08:22:03+00:00

Female sex workers are equivalent to hitmen or individuals who break others' legs for money.

Sex work is not comparable to murder.

Like someone else said, it takes two to willingly participate in sex. The sex work industry exists because there are people willing to supply (the women, in this case) and there are people creating the demand (the men). The supply does nothing without the demand.

A perspective that you've completely overlooked, too, is how the sex work industry has historically been exploitative of women, actually. You speak as if women are 100% the perpetrators here and overlook the fact that sex work requires that women continually put themselves at risk when it comes to their health and safety.

Legitimate_Type_1324 · 2024-03-24T04:43:38+00:00

They don't like it because they don't like being judged for their sexual preferences and sexual activity.

Who cares, really? No one gets to decide what to get judged for by others.

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ladyindev · 2024-03-24T14:45:58+00:00

I assume you're talking about feminists because women who aren't feminists often have no issue with slut shaming or specifically calling women sluts in a negative way. My mother isn't a feminist and she'll be the first one to call someone a whore. She's very judgmental about people's lives as a Christian with more conservative ideas about what people should be doing in their lives. She's judgy in general about a lot of things really - very common for this type of person. I'm the radical feminist who has an issue with it, not her. I mostly only judge people as good/bad on their values/politics and how they treat people. So, not sure who "women" are in this question, but I'll assume it's feminists.

You already answered your own question - Feminists don't like misogyny. Like, we're generally not big fans, you know?

The demonization of women's promiscuity as dirty and condemnable, while men are praised for being promiscuous is rooted in misogyny. Even your question inherently assumes sluts are women by default.

Now, if you want to shame men for being promiscuous in exactly the same ways that you would women, the conversation is only slightly different - until you're committed to dismantling the social norms and ideas about women's sexuality, we don't have much to talk about other than your specific ideas which are largely irrelevant in the face of systemic norms and consequences for women.

But that's not what you're doing, so the first answer is the answer.

DaoMark · 2024-03-24T20:00:20+00:00

Jesus Christ y’all make defending this preference difficult; brother, being a murderer is in no way comparable to being a slut…

And to answer your question, obviously women are going to being upset about men having a preference that will limit their options.

While not entirely analogous, it’s the same shit with short men being mad at women with height preferences.

dataofman · 2024-03-25T00:47:38+00:00

Yoooo this is so crazy. You gotta chill bro it's not that serious

THERobotsz · 2024-03-24T07:13:38+00:00

Don’t discuss your partner’s history bro. And as a rule- don’t “discuss sluts” what the fuck is wrong with you.

If you ever get a chance at a gf- Just be happy you have them in the moment. This red pill bullshit really fucks with some dude’s minds. The biggest chad thing is getting the girl, period.

one_little_victory_ · 2024-03-24T10:16:59+00:00

"Sluts" are not an actual thing. It's nothing more than a misogynistic slur.

Let's treat the genders equally, shall we?

Southern_Fall983 · 2024-03-25T00:02:35+00:00

Women are privileged enough to play tactics that men could only dream of playing.

ICU8a8 · 2024-03-24T12:44:02+00:00

This is truth.

Men are not allowed to use their physical strength in their relationships with women. But women are allowed to fight with any and every psychological weapon they possess (also including physical violence, ironically). I’m certainly not advocating for men to club women over the head and drag them to their caves, but when women manipulate men with their own natural advantages but deny men theirs, it rigs the game. There should be some accountability for women who abuse their sexuality. But we’ve moved even farther from that. Women can use their sexual charms to get whatever they want from Men and if a man crosses any line the woman doesn’t like, she reverts back to helpless damsel in distress.

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campskills21 · 2024-03-24T17:12:38+00:00

Women are much more quick to call out slutty behavior in other women and make allegations about them to cut them down. She does this slut shaming because she feels in competition with her for same men in their social circle.

Guys are mad at girl sluts because it takes nothing to be one, it’s more about a gender difference jealousy. Society says something about how she values herself to get passed around, female sluts have been ridiculed since the dawn of human history. Guys also don’t like cute sluts because she didn’t make the offer to have sex with him.

I tend to think all normal girls go through some sort of ho phase or 2, guys will too if they provide themselves with the opportunity, it just takes some skill.

There’s such a low percentage of people of real continuous sluts sleeping with 100s of other people it’s not too much to worry about.

XXXblackrabbit · 2024-03-24T17:33:44+00:00

There is no way you thought people here would interpret what you said charitably, but I get what you’re trying to touch on. I definitely would not have compared hitmen to hookers, you’re opening yourself up to bad faith attacks. Leave it at “modern society accepts and even passively encourages women to use their advantage of sexuality over men leading to an imbalance”.

WilliamWyattD · 2024-03-25T15:35:44+00:00

You are trying to assemble too many things and reduce it all to one theory. But it is more complex than that.

Women have historically policed female sluttiness at least as much as men. There are complex reasons for that. It's also clear that female and male promiscuity are not seen symmetrically by either gender on an instinctive basis. Again, decent reasons for this. However, this also doesn't justify anything as extreme as all women should stay virgin until marriage while the more sex partners a man has, the better it is for him.

You cannot really equate male rape of women with women using their sexual leverage advantage to manipulate men.

just_a_place · 2024-03-24T05:16:55+00:00

Women experience a strong sort of existential terror the first time their sexual wiles do not work on a man, and especially if a man ever shows anger, disgust, or condescension at being flirted on.

The first time I got irritated with a woman flirting with me she lost her shit and I never saw or heard from her again, latter her mutual friends told me how "devastated" she was.

raldabos · 2024-03-24T04:40:54+00:00

In real life most people don't care if that's your preference. Actually a lot of women will find disgusting promiscous men.

ktdotnova · 2024-03-24T06:11:10+00:00

The most obvious answer is that they see themselves in those women that men describe as sluts. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think most men care if you have tons of sex with your boyfriend or be in an exclusive relationship. They are just afraid that you rode the cock carousel of men totally out of your league, willingly subjecting yourself to Chad's meat toy, and they accidentally get with you in the future. They dislike it if you went through that phase... and want to suddenly "settle down" now. Put yourself into the shoes of those men. What men on earth want to fill those shoes? To be the nice, stable guy that was settled for because you were safe.

optimuscrymez · 2024-03-24T05:50:17+00:00

Sluts come in two varieties....

The bad Slut....who seeks validation through being sexual with men who meet her often sky high physical standards.

And the good Slut....who legitimately can find a wide range of male.phenotypes attractive. Heroines them all.

Title	Why not liking sluts is such a big thing for women?
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