Men's lust clouds their judgement and makes them see women as evil

G4M35 · 2024-10-06T14:35:51+00:00

Men's lust clouds their judgement

yup

and makes them see women as evil

LOL, no. Makes them not see / ignore the red flags.

AssistanceLeather513 · 2024-10-06T06:42:29+00:00

This is true, but some women want men to lust after them. And then manipulate them and shame them for it. You can try and deny this all you want, but some women actually act really sinister.

BearSpray007 · 2024-10-06T06:02:29+00:00

Are you denying that women have the ability to be manipulative? Or are you denying that men can actually be manipulated (let alone by a mere woman), and therefore any decision he makes is 100% his own choice. Can men be manipulated by other men? Is a man magically immune to manipulation? Can women be manipulated?

MC-Purp · 2024-10-06T17:19:54+00:00

IMO the lust isn’t where the “women are evil “part comes from. Lust definitely clouds your judgement, and supports bad decision making. But it’s the guilt after that leads to “women are evil”, because the men are trying to escape accountability and hamster wheel their way out of it.

GoldOk2991 · 2024-10-06T05:52:22+00:00

I agree with the specific examples you have but there is a reason marketing firms have use the slogan "sex sells."

Its just the rough line between manipulation and targeted, effective advertising that reels in customers.

Edit: also can't your post be swapped to also accuse women of this?

Can't I say that women's tingles clouds their judgement when they go after some known to be abusive Chad who is 6ft 4, roided and tatted and makes her puss throb?

Just look at the old chadfishing posts here during purge week

IronDBZ · 2024-10-06T06:43:58+00:00

Is this where misogyny originates from?

Misogyny like most forms of antagonism, stems from a contradiction between opposing forces.

So long as there are people who want different things from one another, the frustration of their mutual goals and expectations will create resentments.

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womandatory · 2024-10-06T06:33:26+00:00

And yet they tell women we’re emotional and irrational. Lol.

What it comes down to is accountability. It’s a trait that’s being bred out of humanity because lazy, whiny, entitled losers keep breeding more of the same.

Just look at what happens in schools these days - asshole parents rip into teachers to defend the shitty behavior of their horrible kids. 30 years ago, parents let teachers teach, and schools expected parents to parent. Now hardly any parents parent their kids, they expect teachers to teach AND parent, and when teachers haul a kid up for being rude or abusive, mommy and daddy defend their little antisocial assholes.

Men with discipline and women with dignity are dying breeds and it’s ugly to watch.

Wise-Comedian-4316 · 2024-10-06T05:33:26+00:00

Another genius breakdown of how men work given by a woman.

Remind me again how much responsibility and blame for their own choices women accept? For stuff that is actually completely their choice and fault. Not things that are in fact nuanced like sending money to camgirls.

Women do in fact exist and have agency and do actually use their sexuality often for their own purposes. Guys generally aren't acting like they didn't decided to sleep with who they do or whatever other choice they made. Certainly outside of deeply religious and weirdo online communities no one is talking about demon seductresses...

As for misogyny, if you mean literal hatred of women, that's usually the mother or other major female figures in life.

rustlerhuskyjeans · 2024-10-06T06:50:24+00:00

These are all pretty niche. Women always making poor decisions while lusting for men, actually way more than guys.

USPSHoudini · 2024-10-06T12:05:00+00:00

Imagine trying to use Afghanistan to try and paint Western men as being evil…

What a substanceless post backed by nothing

Aafan_Barbarro · 2024-10-06T08:48:15+00:00

Another episode of shaming male heterosexuality.

ThanosSnapsSlimJims · 2024-10-06T14:26:26+00:00

Let's flip your point around and reverse the genders

-Is it my fault that I lust after a 13 year old male school child? No, the child is a seductress tempting me.

-Is it my fault that I made the conscious choice to spend all my husband's money on getting a hotel to sleep with underage students and the random men I think like me more than my husband?

-Is it my fault that I am led around by my vagina and use my position of authority to sleep with male student? No, it's evil, demon seductive underage male students everywhere.

Fabulous_HonestTea · 2024-10-06T05:25:22+00:00

Men's can't control their lust

Yes.

prefer to see women as manipulative temptresses than accept responsibility

No. Seduction/temptation requires attention from the woman in question. Most men receive no attention from women. If women were actively giving them attention, even if the intent is to manipulate/tempt them for nefarious purposes, most men would be over the moon with that arrangement.

Misogyny comes from complete invisibility in the eyes of the opposite gender. Any attention, even negative attention, from women is better and more fulfilling than having absolutely nothing.

Able_Meeting_7534 · 2024-10-06T06:22:53+00:00

-Is it my fault I’m choking in a gas cloud of toxic fumes? No, the woman farted in my face after eating spicy food.

S1lent_Thre4t · 2024-10-06T09:14:18+00:00

Many men looking for more than just sex end up resenting women. Looking for a genuine long term relationship, they are faced with delirious expectations, selfishness and entitlement. Feelings and care are barely part of the equation anymore. So the only two options they have are celibacy or a relationship that makes them suffer more or less. So yeah, some of them fall into irrational thoughts and hatred.

thedarkracer · 2024-10-06T06:39:09+00:00

Sure, tempting men is a rhetoric. The blame of false judgement lies with both genders not just men.

Like women committing paternity fraud or infidelity and then asking for alimony, we have cases like that OR getting pregnant even when others warned and then blaming that they were manipulated. In the west we see single moms (except those who were raped or abandoned) leech off taxpayer money because they made decisions based on bad judgement. Don't act it's gender specific.

Cunnin_Linguists · 2024-10-06T07:51:39+00:00

A man being manipulated by an egirl doesn't think he's being manipulated. Me, watching from the sidelines says he is

MyUpSeemsDown · 2024-10-06T09:02:19+00:00

LOL I have seriously never heard those sequences of words or resembling ever in my life from anyone, sounds like a serial killer quote. That is funny as shit.

That being said, it's probably the opposite of not being able to control their lust. Not being able to control their lust would also imply something like rapists or sexual offenders. And to think all these misogynistic nerds on internet, because it's definitely the biggest breeding ground for misogyny, are also all rapists and sexual offenders honestly seems nonsensical to me. Probably even paying for webcam models or Onlyfans I'd argue is a substitute instead of on sight rape, and shows that they're displaying some level of control over their lust and temptations.

Imo misogyny probably stems from lack of experience with women leading to things like fear of women and rejection, inability to face/recognize their failure, all of which are probably great reasons to have control over their lust, along with the fact that they have unfulfilled desires and needs. Which I think would be the perfect place that'd prompt validation/justification by saying women are some sort of ways.

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ImOnTheSquare · 2024-10-06T12:41:36+00:00

I know that lust has and probably will again, cloud my judgement. That's not a defect in women lol. That's my own biology making me stupid at times. Be a man and control yourself. It's had less of an effect on me as I've gotten older.

LovesGettingRandomPm · 2024-10-06T14:11:01+00:00

I don't want to defend men who obviously are at fault, that said you know very damn well that its hard for a man to say no when you're shaking your assets in his face.

John_Oakman · 2024-10-06T14:19:15+00:00

Most redpill/manosphere doctrine & rage seems to come from a lack of lust rather than as a product of lust, hence shunning the companionship of women entirely in many cases (not that they had a choice, but notionally they're still making a choice).

Artistic_Speech_1965 · 2024-10-06T16:52:14+00:00

Yes, it's victimisation applied to the sexual field. It's like feelings: there is no problem to be sexualy attracted, but it's your damn responsibility to not be lead by it

FrameWorried8852 · 2024-10-06T17:43:59+00:00

lol the only men who don't see women as evil are those who lust after them. Spend time around any real a-sexual man and you would feel your presence and daring to even make eye contact has been a grave offense and you made an enemy for life.

FrameWorried8852 · 2024-10-06T17:47:32+00:00

Also it's much more like "ugly men's lust clouds their judgment and makes them see women as evil".

obviousredflag · 2024-10-06T09:00:13+00:00

Is it my fault that I lust after a 16 yo. No, the child is a seductress tempting me.

It's neither one's fault, it's biology. Nobody chooses who they are attracted to. Calling someone a seductress is a defensive mechanism to conform to societal norms of not being "allowed" to find 16 yo sexually attractive.

The cam models do manipulate their audience.

Women have immense power over men with how lust works in men. They very much exploit that power for their own interests. Some men call women seductresses because they are. THey know exactly how their behavior and outfits affect men.

But i don't see how men call women evil (who really does that?) for any other reason than to free themselves of the consequences of their lustful states and behavior.

Your argument hinges on men being able to be in charge of their actions, despite being in a state of lust, or being able to "control their lust" as you put it. HOW? I guess you have never been a man in a state of extreme lust.

Here is a study on the effects of sexual arousal on the ability to make decisions:
https://people.duke.edu/~dandan/webfiles/PapersPI/Sexual%20Arousal%20and%20Decision%20making.pdf

SaBahRub · 2024-10-06T05:32:01+00:00

Only if women reject them

Ziogatto · 2024-10-06T10:09:44+00:00

Lol it's literally the opposite and it is so true in the opposite there's literally a wikipedia page about it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect

TheNattyJew · 2024-10-06T12:20:09+00:00

How do you explain Harvey Weinstein if only men have cloudy judgement. Every single woman in Hollywood knew he was a creeper or even worse. But they could not stay away from the promise he held for fame and glory. So let's not try to pretend that women are any better than men. Women just respond to different things than men do

flipsidetroll · 2024-10-06T12:27:51+00:00

This is so bait-ey. You’re a woman. You don’t know how a man thinks. This is pure projection. And it’s stupid to debate a projection. SOME men. Not all. Good grief.

KGmagic52 · 2024-10-06T12:29:43+00:00

Why is it ok to make posts on here accusing men in general of being pedophiles?

puzzlehattrick · 2024-10-06T09:14:43+00:00

Is it my fault that I chose the abusive manipulator? No, it's patriarchy that forced me to, and all men are like that. (Other men aren't attractive so they don't exist for me)

BCRE8TVE · 2024-10-06T17:03:24+00:00

This is called "lack of accountability". The difference is that we force men to take accountability while we mostly excuse women from taking accountability.

I don't disagree with you that those behaviours you described are problematic, they absolutely are.

The difference is we point out where men aren't being 100% accountable, while not caring at all that often women are not held accountable.

If we want equality then yes we need to hold men accountable for their choices and actions but so too do we need to hold women accountable for their bad choices and lack of forethought.

Men are used to accountability, and being held accountable and losing female privilege is going to come as a nasty surprise to a lot of women.

caption291 · 2024-10-06T17:33:46+00:00

When men's judgment is clouded by finding a woman attractive, It biases us to view her in a more positive light.

I think a lot of women take that BIASED perspective of them as the "valid" one and then when men lose interest for whatever reason and go back to judging women on the merit of their character, women interpret that as unfair because they are used to preferential treatment.

I think you're just looking for a justification for why when men judge women as people it almost never results in anything resembling the image of themselves that women have with their extreme in-group bias.

The rest of your post mostly seem to be the usual hyperagency for men and complete lack of agency for women shtick as you're basically implying that men can't be manipulated by women.

Also, it's very obvious you only talked about pedophilia as a way to poison the well.

emax4 · 2024-10-06T12:41:36+00:00

Women can be evil when they're on their periods. Does this make women all evil when on their periods? Of course not. Both sexes know better.

I think people tend to blame people when they can't accept the truth or are too afraid of admitting wrongdoing.

VWGUYWV · 2024-10-06T13:34:57+00:00

In modern day America, I’ve literally never heard a man blame women for his sexual misconduct and be taken seriously by many men.

The only men here that would agree with “that woman dressed sexy so it’s okay I was harassing towards her” are obvious trolls or people that are so far gone that they are obviously irrational or mentally ill

abaxeron · 2024-10-06T09:45:41+00:00

Is it my fault that I am led around by my dick?

Is it women's fault that they a) initiated the majority of divorces at least since year 1867 b) started initiating even more of them once division of assets got untangled from marital fault c) started initiating even more of them after 10 years of marriage once it got them entitled to spousal retirement benefits even as divorcees? -

Yes. Yes it very much is.

"Well what if her husband was a bad person" Then don't marry him in the first place; you are supposed to be an adult.

I hope those blue pills you take for counterbalance are sweet, they usually are, but I think you are way beyond just counterbalancing here.

TallFoundation7635 · 2024-10-06T10:45:55+00:00

1) Straw man argument.

2) Straw man argument.

3) Straw man argument.

Got any other questions?

ArmariumEspata · 2024-10-06T13:38:04+00:00

The fact that you think only men experience lust and that women can’t fathom lusting after men tells me how foolish you are, OP.

Wide-Explanation-725 · 2024-10-06T09:26:44+00:00

Those 3 examples are horrible. I know nobody who would say (or do) any of those.

You’re talking about incels here. The title shouldn’t be about „men“.

Low effort bait-post.

griii2 · 2024-10-06T11:14:15+00:00

*some men's judgement.

If you don't like the statement "women are manipulative gold diggers " you should not make statements like "men's lust clouds their judgement".

damaggdgoods · 2024-10-06T11:34:46+00:00

This is shadow boxing/ straw man nonsense. It plays into the harmful gender stereotype that “men only want one thing”. Nobody on PPD (other than some fringe incels) is blaming women for tempting them. Invoking the situation Afghanistan is a straw man

RealityCold4693 · 2024-10-06T13:27:29+00:00

So if we’re using the same logic women should never complain about when they use

SirTruffleberry · 2024-10-06T14:39:19+00:00

On the other hand, men's lust for women is probably the only thing keeping us remotely interested in them lol. We have little in common otherwise.

RevolutionaryJob7908 · 2024-10-06T15:27:14+00:00

Debunking the 2nd claim about sending all money to web cam models.. Cam models get their money 86% from married men. I'm still boggled by that (onlyfans). I thought it be the lonely guys, but if anyone figures out why, its a mystery. Single men, etc, name any catagory, aren't the ones donating and tipping or attributing to the onlyfans and cams. It's the married men? Spending money... on this crap. I don't have an answer and don't understand it.

Misogyny doesn't originate from lust. It originates from rejection of any type. It comes strictly from when a woman lowers the value of a man, by any means. This can be rejected, or because you cheated or monkey branched him, etc. The more a woman treats a man poorly, which RESULTS in lowering his value, the more that stuff builds up.

Lust is the driving force which gets men to treat women well, or give them any attention, get married, AND also, that driving force places the man and woman into the scene, where opportunity for a woman to lower his value, by her choice or not, is presented. Lust doesn't make men see woman as evil, it makes men lust for women. Which isn't evil either. You'd be living a lonely life without men with lust. We wouldn't bother. It's when that lust turns to love is what women want.

I would definitely isolate the cam tipping from the debate, because its wild who is actually tipping, and a topic of it's own. Why are married men, spending money on cam girls, almost exclcusively??? I don't get it.

Tokimonatakanimekat · 2024-10-06T09:59:13+00:00

-Is it my fault that I am a single mother now? No, the Chadrone is an asshole because he's a man and men are dogs!

envious1998 · 2024-10-06T11:32:37+00:00

Man if you turned this logic on women and the stupid things they do for chad this would not be a pleasant experience. So how about let’s not generalize an entire gender because women are going to lose the “I was manipulated” wars. You do much more victimizing of yourselves than men do.

BiffTannenCA · 2024-10-06T08:32:08+00:00

You sound bitter.

Disastrous-Chart-928 · 2024-10-06T15:42:39+00:00

-Is it my fault that I purposely chase men older than me because none of the guys my age earn enough or have their own homes due to a cost of living crisis, older guys are gross but the patriarchy made me do this, I pick and choose when traditional roles are good for my own benefit

-Is it my fault that I made a conscious choice to spend countless hours swiping on dating apps meeting up with guys that want nothing from me but company in bed and now I'm resentful of men as a whole despite the countless warnings from both men and women not to chase the same men as everyone else

-Is it my fault that I'm led around by my vagina? No, it's evil tall demon womanizers exploiting me, I was ovulating

Title	Men's lust clouds their judgement and makes them see women as evil
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Date	October 6, 2024 5:17 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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