Provide and protect

markov_truwitt · 2025-01-02T17:53:38+00:00

Troll post? Certainly low effort.

Men protect and provide women's quality of life. You would not have the eletrical grid you take for granted without men.

The concrete you set your houses offices gyms and overpriced coffeeshops on? Built by men.

The sewage and garbage systems that makes your routine waste byproducts a forgotten irrelevancy you don't have to spend a second of time thinking about? Built by men.

The wooden frames you live within? Made from materials harvested and refined by men, then assembled and constructed by men.

All of these are trades men outnumber women in 20:1, and men die 20x more from workplace accidents than women.

So not only are men directly responsible for the physical and mechanical infrastructure which keeps women housed fed hydrated clean warm and safe, but men's bodies are the buffer between women and the lethal danger that is inextricably tied to that work.

And don't get me started on the more gray areas this dynamic gets into.

All those anti-aging creams, moisturizers, and spa treatments? Most of them are made from male foreskins harvested from male babies without their consent.

Those coffee bean juices you drink every day? Those Chiquita banannas you buy at such a low low price? Both are made affordable by the underpaid or enslaved labor of men.

Those batteries in those electronic screen boxes you carry around everywhere? Men died in lithium mines to make those devices so compact and long lasting.

Those daimonds on those rings so many women say are essential to a loyal and stable marraige? Men and boys died for those too.

If you take away men's sacrifices, women are left living in mud hovels and going to the bathroom in open trenches with no electricity, ac, internet, or modern logistical superstructure.

So it doesn't seem unreasonable for decent women to provide a little appreciation and gratitude while protecting men from the bitter haters who do not. 🤷‍♂️

flexible-photon · 2025-01-01T23:16:49+00:00

Yet women want men who earn more which means they are looking for providers and they also want men that are taller and stronger and more masculine than them which means they want protectors. Women want men to perform traditional gender roles but are unwilling to perform their own traditional gender roles.

Fan_Service_3703 · 2025-01-01T18:01:36+00:00

Provide - Beyond gifts, I don't provide her anything, and she does not want or need me to. I fulfil other needs of hers but we don't need to go into that.

Protect - I mean, I guess? If she was being harassed or otherwise in danger I would step in. I've half jokingly tried to do the "a good man walks on the traffic side" meme but she normally tells me to fuck off.

Proudvow · 2025-01-03T03:50:41+00:00

Almost all women work

Doesn't stop them from still expecting men to pay for shit.

HollowHusk1 · 2025-01-01T21:21:54+00:00

Since I’m trad pilled, I work and bring in the income while she maintains the house. Thats my ideal

SnooHesitations2928 · 2025-01-04T22:18:02+00:00

If you think there is no benefit to a relationship, then don't pursue it. Reality isn't black and white. Everyone can have different reasons for wanting a relationship. I guess you wouldn't consider love to be something that someone can provide.

MetalHead794 · 2025-01-01T18:16:00+00:00

"What are they protecting women from?"

As a men, I’ve been often asked by women friends or coworkers to walk with them at night to their car/bus stop/home because they were worried, ask to kill spiders or other insects, ask to protect them from some animals, etc.

"What are they providing"

Many women still expect the men to pay for the first date, most men in relationships will be the one to fix things in the house, most men works more hour and some bring more money to the family and there’s also all the couple who choose the traditional lifestyle.

So that’s why so many men still say they’re provider et protector.

marchingrunjump · 2025-01-02T00:19:08+00:00

The core problem is that you assume a functioning society without the contribution of men.

Remove men from the equation, women may well work but there would be no gas in the car, no food in the shops, no water and no electricity. No heating, no plumbing. No police and certainly no borders. No houses, no roads, no airplanes. The list goes on and on.

All these things and many more are predominantly provided by the collective of men.

Most of them men with families providing for their families and in the process underpinning a safe and comfortable society. Just because it’s done as a collective effort doesn’t mean it’s not there.

A peculiar thought experiment underpins this. In most of Western countries, women would be fully able to create a women-only enclave. There’s absolutely no law against women segregating and establishing their own city and safe and just and fair as they can make it. The odd thing is, they do not do so.

If as few as 1 in 10,000 women had the position that men are terrible - if not entirely useless- they would be able make a city of 400.000 inhabitants ex children. How come they don’t? It would be heaven on earth… allegedly.

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Schleudergang1400 · 2025-01-06T10:16:54+00:00

What are they providing? Almost all women work and when they don't it's usually because they're doing the childcare men won't.

Maybe your own family was fucked, but in my family, my dad provided financially for all of the family and protected it from any harm coming its way. He dealt with all issues that he could load on himself, to have my mother and me be as unbothered by anything that life throws at us, as possible. Did your father not protect you from cold/rain by providing you with his raincoat while he was cold/wet? Did he not physically shield your mother from aggressive stray dogs? Did he not put himself between her and harms way? Be it drunk homeless guys, animals, traffic, authorities, etc? Did he not offer the least dirty place to sit to you or your mother, while taking the crappy position himself? Did he not do the dangerous work in the house and keep your mother away from having to deal with electrical work, or dangerous machinery? Did he not fix the stuck lawn mowing blade, instead of having your mother reach down there with her hand? Did he not focus blame onto himself, when it was directed correctly at your mother or you?

It's my dad's greatest motivation and goal in life to protect and take care of his family. Right now, he is struggling with uncurable cancer and is in immense pain daily. Yet, all of his effort is on how to take care of his family and have htem provided for even when he is dead.

I protect my girls interests, i protect her body form harm, by doing the jobs that threaten it. I prioritize her wellbeing over mine. I protect her emotional wellbeing, i protect her from being exploited by assisting with knowledge and wisdom. I protect her from other men who can't take a "no" for an answer. I protect her from other women when she can't stand up for her own interests herself. I protect her from stupid decisions when i know better. I protect her from getting dirty and take over the respective job. I protect her from getting cold, wet, sick, etc. by modifying my behavior. I provide her with financial assistance when she struggles to make ends meet.

SadCahita · 2025-01-02T00:46:07+00:00

The magical world of femiTARDS where men have a huge wage gap above women, should be the ones expected to pay for dates and gifts for women (because otherwise, what do they bring to her table?) and birth rates are dropping (which is a good thing because women are free to choose) but at the same time men are not providing anything and muh childcare labor despite they brag about dying with 30 cats.

wtknight · 2025-01-01T18:06:52+00:00

I know many men who are protectors and at least partial providers for their partners. I'm sorry that you don't know any who are. Just by doing things like having a decent job and walking with their partners in the dark a man does the things that you suggest that they are not doing.

EetinAintCheetin · 2025-01-01T20:29:16+00:00

Well, the providing part you are right about, because being a provider is about the least sexy thing you can do. But it’s an idea that’s been fed to us for many centuries, that the guy provides for the woman and baby, etc., because she won’t be able to provide for herself while preggers.

The protection thing is real. Women are attracted to men who look like they can provide safety and security. Paradoxically, a tall, muscular jerk, who doesn’t even care about her much and who changes chicks like his socks is more attractive than a nerdy nice guy, who will realistically care much more about her and be willing to provide with all he has.

Men are no different. Physical attractiveness will always take precedence over personality and niceness, because that’s what’s best for our kids - a mother who is young, healthy and has the right attributes that signal fertility (breasts, ideal waist to hips ratio, nice butt, nice skin and hair, etc.). What women view as being the best for having a child is a man who is not afraid and able to command respect and authority to deter danger to her and the baby. Jerks can do that. Nice guys can’t.

valerianandthecity · 2025-01-01T18:31:35+00:00

The men who usually say these things are the men that want traditional gender roles, and they tend to find women that want traditional gender roles too (i.e. the man to make more money than the woman, and to spend more on the her and the family than vice versa. Also provide protection by being a threatening presence to anyone thinking of harming their partner or kids. )

You seem to think all men are saying this, and all men want traditional gender roles.

Standard_Bug_123 · 2025-01-02T05:07:43+00:00

I pay $3000 a month in child support.

I just broke up with a woman who was in the habit of asking me for thousands of dollars a month.

I dunno...

Comfortable-Dare-307 · 2025-01-01T21:17:18+00:00

Let's see:

Men build and maintain the buildings you live and work in. Men are the electricians, plumbers, coal miners, construction workers that keep everything running. Men are much more likely to be police and fire fighters. Men are in the military protecting you interests woeld wide. Men are the majority of surgeons that keep you healthy. Men are the majority of PhD scientists that contribute significantly to our needs. Men are the farmers and distributers of food. Men do most of the factory work and truck driving to bring you your stuff. Men make up most governments keeping society running. And on and on....

Without men, the world would stop functioning in a few hours.

Without women, we wouldn't notice a difference until we started dying off because we couldn't reproduce.

There is nothing that keeps society running that women do that men can't do. (Except give birth).

But there are tons of things men do to keep society running that women can't or won't do.

just_a_place · 2025-01-02T07:30:23+00:00

Why do men keep claiming they do this despite absolutely no evidence that they do?

Because we do it on an organized mass scale that it takes literal armies of men to provide and protect your ungrateful asses. This is always in the back of my mind when I am in sub-zero weather repairing the heating units on the buildings inch which haughty ass fucking women live and then wanna pretend they don't need men.

What are they providing?

Literally every fucking thing: Electricity, Power Grid, the building you're in right now! your shoes, the software running this machine, the roads you walk on, the entire infrastructure and system that runs it in which you are privileged to exist outside of the unmerciful elements of nature.

We provide so fucking much that you just flat out take it all, literally ALL, for granted as if it all just magically exists without armies of men providing it to women's blind, prideful, ungrateful, haughty and disrespectful asses.

Just because you "work" providing a non-essential service within the infrastructures and systems that men created, built, and maintain does not put you on equal footing with men as the providers and protectors. Standing on the shoulders of giants is one thing, women just ride men's coat tails and piggy back off our hard labor and then think themselves equals and superiors. 🤨

DO what we do, then we can talk.

You live in a world where you are benefiting from men's labor without a man. And without being held accountable to men. So excuse me when I snap at stupid ass statements.

TheNattyJew · 2025-01-02T01:17:29+00:00

Whenever there's some kind of noise in the middle of the night, you can be damn sure the woman isn't going to check it out. It's always on the man to do so.

And you can't tell me you've not seen the posts of women complaining because "3 grown men walked right on by me and did absolutely nothing". Men are still expected to brave danger to save women from whatever dangerous situations they find themselves in

CHIN000K · 2025-01-02T03:00:10+00:00

Well this illustrates one of the big issues men face now. The state took over a lot of the responsibilities individual men used to have that made them feel needed and valued. It took generations of men to build the system up to where this is possible, but it's backfired. They're still the ones primarily responsible for upholding it for now, but not in any clearly appreciable way by women.

Tokimonatakanimekat · 2025-01-01T18:41:57+00:00

What are they providing?

A world where women can work

DGenerationMC · 2025-01-01T23:46:30+00:00

Nothing and the world is better for it.

Hopefully, that's the answer you were looking for, OP.

I-wanna-GO-FAST · 2025-01-02T09:06:35+00:00

Men don't provide anything? Ok, I guess we can do away with alimony, child support, and marriage laws regarding the sharing and splitting of assets since they don't do anything for women anyways.

James_M_Croft · 2025-01-13T13:37:51+00:00

Because men provide and protect. Women just refuse to see it.

Who you think is actually working so yall can sit around and look pretty to higher management? Thats men providing.

Who you think is guaranteeing the safety of the curent system? Thats men protecting.

fools_errand49 · 2025-01-01T19:43:57+00:00

You live in a society with laws, law enforcement, food, shelter and clothing. The entire history of civilzation is evidence.

Men did that.

You're welcome.

Youcbah · 2025-01-01T22:17:53+00:00

providing

I’ve never heard a man call himself that but I hear more women say they want providers more than men call themselves that. Your point is valid if we both working why would you need someone to provide for you unless you are deciding to be a stay at home mom

protecting

They are protecting women from any type of harm and from who you ask from anyone with any intentions to hurt you physically or mentally. Look at your family members most of the men in your family has to deal with the pressure of facing the threat of violence because men are more likely to suffer violent crimes. Just like how women have to be aware of their safety we also have to be aware of yours and ours we don’t turn off our brains

No-Breath6663 · 2025-01-02T08:28:44+00:00

So you live in a world where men are 50% of the population

And men are roughly 95% of the time going to be bigger, stronger, and more physically capable than you.

And men make up 80+ percent of roles within firefighters, police, prison guards, security, and military.

And men make up 80+ percent of electricians, construction, hard labor, sewer workers, trash men, coal miners, etc etc.

So men account for the vast majority of dangerous provisional roles, and even make significantly more money than women on average as a result. In fact:

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/03/01/the-enduring-grip-of-the-gender-pay-gap/

Women make 82 cents for every dollar a man makes

Which means they account for 45% of income in America.

Despite this, women spend more money than men do:

https://financebuzz.com/male-vs-female-spending-statistics

Where do they get this money from I wonder???

Furthermore, despite the fact that you walk around every day and men are all larger than you, you still have rights and don't get attacked by 99% of men walking down the street. Stop and think for a second, if these men give women money, protect them from men and women and animals and the elements via every job they're doing and in their personal lives, then how the hell can you think otherwise?

In fact,

https://domesticviolenceresearch.org/domestic-violence-facts-and-statistics-at-a-glance/

"13.8% of the unidirectional violence was male to female (MFPV), 28.3% was female to male (FMPV)"

Women are literally more likely to assault their partners and not be assaulted back. How's that for protection?

How about this?

https://crimeresearch.org/2023/08/massive-errors-in-fbis-active-shooting-reports-from-2014-2022-regarding-cases-where-civilians-stop-attacks-instead-of-4-6-the-correct-number-is-at-least-35-7-in-2022-it-is-at-least-41-3/

Up to 63% of all violent offenders with a gun are stopped in most cases by men with guns. How's that for protection?

Title	Provide and protect
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Date	January 1, 2025 3:31 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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