Thanks to One_friendship_plz for finding this. This post comes from another subreddit, I'm sure you can guess which one.
Summary
In 2014 I went through a pretty bad break-up. I met Will at a NYE party hosted by a friend-of-a-friend and we dated for 10ish months. I loved him - it was probably the best relationship I'd had on a 'personal connection' level - but he had been dishonest about some things (not infidelity - 'life' things) and it led to us breaking up. I couldn't come to terms with his lying by omission - it seemed like he threw away our relationship over nothing.
She blames Will (the guy who is loaded) for ending the relationship because it was obviously his fault that he didn't share his money on her. Like we all know, it's never her fault, she's the victim here.
I was pretty unhappy for a while, not gonna lie. Went on a few dates, had a few Tinder flings, but nothing serious......just all-around happy and patiently waiting for Mr. Right to come along.
So she fucked random men, nothing ever serious and yet she expects her Mr. Right.
My friends and I were invited to the same NYE party this year, hosted by the same person. I knew there was a chance my ex would be there, but I didn't care - I was over him.
Oh I'm sure you were over him, otherwise why else would he be on your mind constantly.
So my girls and I are there early, having a few cocktails and everything is going great... then Will walks through the door. He saw me, smiled, walked directly over and gave me a big hug. With his arms wrapped around me, smelling his cologne... I just melted. In that moment, whatever bad feelings I had about our relationship were completely gone. I just genuinely missed him.
Just like that, all those bad feelings are gone when she sees Will, her Alpha.
My friends could tell that seeing him had affected me. They took me to a more private area of the house to talk it out; they reminded me to not get ahead of myself, he's still the same guy who lied to you.
Her friends are trying to make her feel better by blame shifting everything on Will, obviously the feelings with this one are strong.
Will found another girl
She arrived about 10 minutes later and Will introduced her to everyone. She seemed nice enough, but seeing them together made me sick to my stomach. I swear she was being all touchy-feely with him just to spite me. I did my best to avoid them throughout the night. I found out through a friend that they'd been dating for 2 or 3 months. The party ended, I got into a car with my friends and just started sobbing uncontrollably. They tried to comfort me but I was too far gone. They dropped me off and I cried for while longer alone in my apartment.
Of course, she was definitely trying to spite you. Alpha widowed forever.
I want him back so bad, I just don't know what to do :(
Awwwwwww...it's ok, you'll find a man that will make you happy one day.
If you read the comments section, no one is comforting her, they all say it's her fault for ending the relationship.
EDIT: You can find the originsl story on my page, just go under my submitted stuff for those of you who are interested.
What's funny is that she says that the reason the relationship ended was because he lied to her about "life things"(his money), but in the original story, SHE was the one who left him because he was not ambitious enough for her and their dates consisted of watching movies at his apartment. She then later found out, from a friend of his, that he was filthy rich.
It's quite amazing actually how they manage to twist stories like that. "It's not a lie if you believe it".
Ever had a girlfriend cheat on you, then later explain/justify it to you by saying that she didn't really cheat because she had already broken up with you...in her mind?
I'm putting this out there, half expecting the follow-up comments to be "ouch...that's a new one" but also half-expecting the follow-up comments to be "yep, same exact shit happened to me too."
(AWALT, but the specific scenarios and excuses can still be novel.)
Cheating is her way to say she's breaking up with you, it's up to you to pick up the signals yourself.
its like you can see the hamster and translate what it's saying.
I "leave" my gf a couple times a month. I just never get around to telling her.
Can you explain this further?
Same. Shit. Different faces. "You left me on the side like trash! I had to find someone who treated me well!" This was a wife. While I was deployed. Six weeks in to the deployment. Then she tried to tell me it never happened on any other deployments. You couldn't even wait two months, what makes you think I believe you waited over a year!?
It's delusional to expect someone capable of getting laid to remain celibate throughout the duration of deployments. People in the military shouldn't be in relationships at all once they ship off.
I remember what my first Drill Sergeant told me and I took it to heart.
He said he loves his wife, but when he comes back from a long field op or a deployment, he doesn't go around kicking in doors trying to find skeletons. If he comes home and all is back to normal, he doesn't give a fuck, but he said you should ALWAYS have a backup plan. Secret bank accounts, bug out supplies, house and car not in wife's name, etc.
Well no-- if you're in a serious LTR then the expectation is certainly there. HOWEVER, if you live in a feminized society with hypergamous sluts in your LTRs, then yeah, this expectation is silly since she'll spread her legs soon enough for Chad.
I had a similar thing happen to me where she denied ever doing anything. Of course, i looked into it, and i uncovered the truth. The weirdest most satisfying look you will ever see from a female is when you both know she just got caught 150% in her lie, and you see her for who she really is.
Of course that also means its the end of you guys in every way possible. Because you now remind her of the her she doesn't "want to be."
Fuck, this is why you have to have kids stat if you're going to be deployed. Because even if she cheats on you or god forbid you get shot your money doesn't just go to a gold digger.
What the fuck? Have kids stat? I mean I 'see' your logic but the reality is you'll probably come back alive, and your baby mama is still a whore but now has (a) kid(s) to lord over and keep away from you, all while collecting your extra child support check with no accountability for how the money is spent. If you are worried about giving away your hard-earned money to a gold digger, definitely DO NOT fucking knock her up too.
Yep. Same exact thing happened to me. One of the things I love about this forum is comparing notes and seeing AWALT from different people's perspective
After you hear she's fucked somebody else whatever insane justification she gives is meaningless.
It's not even worth listening to. Just fucking tune that shit out and move on with your life.
(Blue pill me) Similar story. We would have a huge fight she would declare it over, go bang someone, come back for the relationship. When I found proof of these repeating activities, she denied it was cheating. So I told her that might be possible, but it means you were using me until you found something better. (Insert tears) I told her to pick one crime, usury or adultery, and we will discuss the possibility of reparations. She actually asked if there was a third option, nope, next.
This reminds me of being a teenager way to much.
Well, that's branch-swinging. And, quite honestly - if she actually does break up with the guy after sleeping with another dude (regardless of whether the branch holds or not), it's tolerable to some degree (she would have slept with other dudes anyway after a breakup).
The real cunts are those who cheat but stick to their BB, because he's safe and secure and takes care of her.
I have done that to a girl before. I felt bad about it but things were so far gone and so fucked up that I felt I had no recourse. I honestly didn't break up with her for another few months due to life reasons like debt and money related but eventually went through with it.
I was not right. But situations can be murky as fuck.
It gets better as they get older. I've seen so many married 40+ year old women who are constantly out fucking men just trying to find a better branch that won't drop her ass.
Eventually some beta who really just wants to get laid will do a lieship with her and she gets divorced. The hilarity starts as soon as she figures out her new BB provider isn't sticking with her or isn't divorcing his wife.
These women then spend years looking for mr perfect and they are shocked when all mr perfect does is pump and dump her.
There is a girl i'm talking to now who has a boyfriend. She keeps making up sex dreams and texting me the very detailed fantasies she has involving me, saying they are dreams and that since it isn't 'real' she isn't doing anything her boyfriend wouldn't like.
wife of 16 years used the "we were on a break" line to justify cheating thankfully my life is so much more without her around
That's how it goes man. With the number of things that go on in women's minds, I'm surprised they can acknowledge reality at all.
I was sharing an apartment with a girl and got sick of her shitty attitude and non stop bitching so while she was gone one day I packed all my stuff up and moved out. A week or so later when I was getting the larger items from the apartment she makes a comment like "that's why I had to break up with you". Lol
I didn't waste my time arguing about who left who but I'm sure the story she tells herself and others is that she kicked me out.
She really believed she dumped you after you packed up your shit and left her. This is so fucking stupid that it can't be made up. You dodged the bullet broseph.
I dodged an artillery shell. She got pregnant by some other bloke within a month of me leaving. This was in November 2012 and my mom's still friends with her on Facebook and she is freaking enormous and her baby's daddy in the pictures looks miserable tagging along with her while she's doing selfies at The Cheesecake Factory.
I'm 34 and so thankful that I'm single with no kids. I can do whatever I wish without answering to anybody, so nice.
Gay man here, this is why I love reading through this sub. I never have to get married, or have children, or deal with any of the bullshit that both of those things bring with them. Seeing other men get the same reprieve is a breath of fresh air. So nice.
Even the guys that get baby rabies on purpose... When I hear about older guys at work talk about their expenses is just depressing.
The cost of vacations triple or more. Pay for yourself, wife, kid(s), and you gotta think about pets. I don't even want a dog, because I live in an apartment. Yet there are still kids that get married and have kids right out of highschool.
Granted if you can afford all of that then gravy, but if they have to complain then it's obviously not all rainbows.
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16 years after catching my wife banging my best friend, and sending mushy emails and her bra to an internet stranger, and I am still the one she blames for ending a wonderful marriage. Even brainwashed my, at the time, 9 yr old son into believing it...it was all daddy's fault for leaving.
It really sucks when feminized sluts warp their kids' minds into thinking that their fathers are villains. I know that female solipsism/selfishness is a thing, but you'd think that they'd have an ounce of decency or respect for their child's biological father. Nope-- it's about using and dumping you on the side of the street.
I had an LTR with a girl who was my unicorn, almost. I lost my job of 25 years on a Friday, met her 60 hours later on Monday (hey, I could do lunch dates since I was unemployed) and didn't find full time employment for 22 months, she never said a single word. In six and a half years she never said no to sex once. She would book out of the way B&Bs for weekend fuck fests. Naked photos any time. She even booked a naked couples photo shoot for us for my birthday. Most self aware person I know. Emotionally intelligent to a huge degree. Disagreements were timely, kindly and gently handled. A million other things made her perfect for me.
But the lack of caring about money was a double edged sword. She had debt. Even though she didn't really seem to waste money, even on a salary approaching six figures she didn't seem to have enough to pay stuff off. Then without telling me she borrowed $24k for her kids year of college. It was the last straw.
So finally we set a meeting and we both knew I was going to pull the plug due to her money issue. We get to the meeting and she says, "This isn't working." She was breaking up with me! She had some bogus reasons why it wasn't working out. It had to be her idea.
Stuff is never her fault, even in the most emotionally solid people.
Yep it's amazing how girls will 110% of the time twist any breakup story to make themselves a victim
In her mind, she did break up with you. Her being a bitch was her soft nexting you.
We've always been at war with Eastasia
We've always been allies with Eurasia
How many fingers do you see, shitlord?
Five! No, Three! As many fingers as you want, but PLEASE don't call me sexist!
George Costanza isn't really a good life model to imitate
It's amazing how women will just automatically change basic premises / details in an argument or discussion. They make those small changes hoping you won't notice, or will just let it slide.
Gaslighting is a real skill that most women have, and while some may choose not to use it, most men are generally lacking good defenses against it. As always, maintaining frame is everything.
Yep. If you're going to try to LTR up a girl you better know how to steel yourself against the common solipsistic gaslighting a woman will engage in.
For women, the ret-cons they pull seem to be more about keeping their own, perpetually shattered ego together rather than as an intentional method of psychological abuse to drive you crazy.
It's more of a reverse gaslighting because they do it to themselves to convince themselves that they are not insane WRT their choices and behavior in your relationship, especially after the relationship ends on a bad note.
Holy fuck the comments on here are cynical as hell haha.
Holy shit! 4 years after my last LTR ended I'm now realizing she gaslighted me. She'd constantly use my words against me and even twist them so I looked like a liar.
And she had a Master's in English working towards her PhD.
How exactly do you defend against it?
I try call them out on the small key details they changed and they flip it on me and make me seem juvenile.
Steamroll it by acting on what you have actually observed instead of what she tells you that you saw.
Do not negotiate. Do not argue. Act. And if she does not get in line, NEXT!
Anything other than that runs a much higher chance of encouraging and enabling that bullshit. Which means, you as a male, are going to be stuck forever in the patriarchal role because no one else in her fucking life is forcing her to be responsible!
This 100%. "I don't give two fucks what you said/think, I know the truth of the matter and I trust myself 1000x more than I trust you."
Frame.
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Exactly what not to do. By debating the details of the story you have already lost, you've entered her frame and are negotiating how you're going to live in her reality, not yours.
thank you. do not argue. it is their realm.
You never argue with women, it's always a losing proposition, specially if you're right.
No doubt. In this case, it is actually a completely different story than what actually happened, masked in a way to look like she was always saying the same thing. Scary actually.
And if you call them out on it, it makes the argument worse it's the most ridiculous tactic ever
As with a false rape accusation, unless you have things explicitly in writing or video evidence with audio (and ideally running commentary or mind-reading closed captions) , your side of the story is not really considered.
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Only a moron spends Several $100+ on shiny rocks. You got suckered.
Only a moron spends several $1000s on shiny rocks to impress someone or buy their "love"
The value of stealth wealth can never be underestimated.
Honestly, how does one hide his wealth so good like that? Must be some elite parenting, serious discipline and a secretive mouth.
I hope someone called her on that with quotes from her original post.
Sure everyone makes mistakes, but at least most people own up to them.
Men own up to them. Women have no reason to have personal responsibility.
It's shit like this that have permanently made me not trust what women tell me on a logical level when it comes to recounting past events, especially relationships.
She didn't cheat on her last boyfriend, he viciously broke up with her and her friend comforted her. She didn't sleep with 30 guys, just 4 because those other 26 guys really weren't sex. She didn't bitch and nag out her last boyfriend until he broke up with her, he just was distant and, like, totally not 100% in so she ended it.
While he can do as he pleases, loaded or not watching movies in your apartment everytime would get boring fast.
But she now apparently finds it the most satisfying thing ever, now that she learnt about his secret wealth. Strange how swiftly interests changes.
Did this myself, although not loaded. While going through life like a pony car that is on fire this two seemingly boring things root out all LTR-desasters. Broken girls cannot keep their act in order when faced with normal life. Drama ensues. WWIII drama.
TV, going for a walk, grocery shopping, listening to music. Is it boring? Yes! Is it fun? Occassionally. What does it do? Emulating married life. If she wants bungee jumping, letting you slave away at the office on sundays because we neeeeed a 7 bedroom house, the cruise we always wanted... you get the idea.
Yeah, this is a good filter that I use in order to screen for LTR girls:
Is she capable of living a "normal" "boring" life? How does she behave when confronted with this "normal" life style? Does she crave other "shiny" things? Does she constantly need some "adrenalin kicks" by going out, doing crazy stuff, constantly seeing her friends, and so on, more than being with me together?
It's a good and fast way to break the initial "mask" for both parties and see if this girl can maintain a LTR on a very basic level.
That is absolutely amazing.
"He had been dishonest about some things and it led to us breaking up." She can get away with this because it is *technically what happened, although its incredibly misleading because she didnt even know he was lying until well after the breakup.
In her mind, if Will hadn't lied about his money, she wouldn't have felt so unimpressed by his "life goals" or whatever, and she wouldn't have broken up with him. So see, his fault.
Best part is how this story has been twisted after some time in her perspective.
This is without a doubt the single biggest and most subtle message here. Look at how she twisted the story to make herself look like a victim. In reality she dumped this dude because he wasn't willing to give her his money. He then puts his cards on the table and she feels "cheated," somehow.
I'd say it's sad, but it's pretty scary that so many women have similar mentalities as this.
There, corrected it for you.
Laughed my ass off. Women are crazy tho.
His friends told her about his money, not him. Having people say good things about you is more attractive than bragging about yourself.
This is her frame. It didn't hold up to inspection over text on the internet, but it might have worked on her friends IRL.
A woman's IRL girlfriends' job is not to help them grow into better human beings, it's to make each other feel good. That's the bottom line. They all have to lie to each other, like agreeing without personal thought that ex-boyfriend was an asshole, or blindly complimenting each other's pictures on social media. That's why it worked on her friends IRL. They each have to keep up this facade of supporting the other ambitionless friends so they in turn can use the support when they need it.
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Unless the woman has been impeccably polite, I will usually raise my real estimate by about ten years.
Well them, how old was she really? don't let us hanging. She was really 28, wasn't she?
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Should've just agreed/amplified.
"50?" In the most genuine voice
I don't disagree. I also think the vast majority of twox is used for the exact same reasons, hence the removal of posts that don't commiserate with OP.
I wanted to highlight that use of frame, because I wasn't certain if Koalasonfire made the connection and I wanted to reinforce that lesson for my benefit, and anyone else reading that didn't catch it.
I remember a post around the time twox became a default sub, where a woman had posted a picture of herself in graduation robes for her master's degree. I scanned the comments and out of hundreds, only one asked about her degree. The VAST majority of the posts were talking about how pretty her hair was, or how young she looked, or how beautiful her dress was (the graduation robes were open in the middle so you could see the dress).
Her perception of the situation is her reality.
Once you understand that perception isn't reality and can be altered wholesale by emotion, stageplay and outright fallacy you begin to come to terms with the female ability to change her past actions to suit her.
I originally thought that post may have been made up, possibly by one of us. But you can't fake that level of hamstring. It's so natural, so real, so subtle. The reframing isn't fantastical or contrived, but really subconscious and just convenient enough. If it is fiction it's damn convincing fiction.
Fucking demolished. I think about this story a couple times a week. Fantastic update/closure.
This story doesn't think about you at all.
I want the story back so bad, I just don't know what to do :(
Awwww.... it's okay, you'll find a story that will make you happy one day
I won't lie. I sobbed uncontrollably for hours in my apartment.
The story found another user, it's being overly karma-Ed just to spite you.
It's ok, man. Remember, the story LIED to you.
That's ok. Just read some headlines until Mr. story-right comes along.
I got your madmen reference mate, dont worry.
Mad Men got that line from the Ayn Rand novel The Fountainhead.
I kind of wish the dude would spoil his new gf with jewelry and presents just to piss her off.
How many times do you re-read it every day?
At least 12. It was just an exceptionally great story demonstrating female entitlement. I get a kick out of it.
"I swear she was being all touchy-feely with him just to spite me. "
She probably didn't even know who she was, nor did she care. But always everything revolves about her and happens to her. Women's ego is a black hole
Women are a black hole. Emotional void.
That story was almost as good as the one where the introverted video gamer's GF requested a break to travel the world and she found out he immediately started banging some other chick and she was livid... lol women.
Sauce? I need to rub one out before bed.
Don't know how i could find it but I'm positive it was posted on TRP though I think the original was deleted. The chick found out by an email from a nosy old lady neighbor.
My favorite comment from that one:
Ha, ha, ha.
You're an idiot.
With love,
The Internet.
Enjoy your cake. And cats.
Did you find it? Please I gotta see this
Yeahhhhh my ex dumped me because i was about to move out of state and she didn't want to do long distance. So I immediately started banging other girls on tinder. She was PISSED. Bitch, you dumped me!
I went through something similar in high school (before I even knew about Reddit): my ex-girlfriend admitted to cheating on me with one of her coworkers and then shamelessly begins to message me about him days later. I then tell her about this HB7.9 feminine, black girl with a nice ass who is into me (true at the time, by the way). Damn, she felt so defeated. "You're an asshole because you're already seeing another girl"! Bitch please......
Lol wtf do they think breakup means?
That one was pure gold. You could cut the hypocrisy with a knife.
Yeah, that one was absolutely gorgeous. The guy was pretty awesome to have the second one lined up so fast.
It's like watching the Chronicles of the Alpha Widowed. How much are you willing to bet that she'll ride the CC for a while more, until sh'e "totally,like, over Will", then find a nice BB who "makes her feel special" and settle down with him?
Oh, that is, until Will comes around and decides he wants to bang.
Will knows better apparently.
Judging by the party, Will ghosted her pretty well. Will had enough sense not to tell her about the money, ignored her totally when they were in a social situation, and then shows abundance by showing up with a hotter girl. I'd like to buy Will a beer.
"Bene vivere quam optima est ultio"
The ghosting is what's actually rustling her jimmies here.
How does the saying go? It's not the pumping that makes a slut--it's the dumping.
I haven't heard that, but I like it.
Have Will buy you one with his grandpa's money.
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That was risky. I hope you didnt trust her to use a pill or something.
She dropped you straight into the BB category and treated you accordingly.
I read a story, that might be apocryphal, about a guy who as a PUA ruse created fake bank statements and left them on his kitchen table or something but not completely out in open so that someone would have to "snoop" to actually read them. Then when he is on a date with a girl he makes an excuse early on to stop by his apartment to get something from his bedroom.
When they get there he leaves the girl alone for a few minutes while he "searches for" his "other wallet" or something. Invariably the girl snoops, reads the bank statements and gets the impression that he is loaded. So now she is wet before they even head out to dinner or the club or whatever; the evening rocks; he bangs her silly; and then he soft nexts her.
Another story I came across which is more credible is that feminists are trying to have men charged with rape if they lie about their job or income (in this case, saying they earn more or have more prestige than they actually do).
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I'm totally cool with rape by deception as long as it goes both ways.
She lies about being on he pill? Rape.
She lies about her n-count? Rape.
Says she was a virgin? Rape.
Just bring this up next time someone says they think rape by deception is a valid concept and watch the hamster make the jump to hyperdrive.
But it never goes both ways. If a girl is drunk, that is no excuse to rape her; if a guy is drunk that is no excuse for him to rape her.
A man should not be charged if he cannot consent to raping somebody. He is drunk, and has no accountability.
There was the R. v. Deviault case in Canada back in 1994 where the Supreme Court found 6-3 that extreme intoxication to the point of automatism could be asserted as an affirmative defense (the accused had to prove it on the balance of probabilities). Parliament quickly plugged that hole, but the questions still remains if that fix could itself survive a constitutional challenge.
In general, getting drunk won't get you off the hook although it can result in reduced charges in some cases.
"i had sex with you because I thought you were rich. Turns out youre not, so youre not really the person I thought I was sleeping with. So technically you raped me" female logic.
But flip the genders and watch the hamster scurrying:
"i had sex with you because you said you were on the pill. Turns out youre not, so you're not really the person I thought I was sleeping with. So technically you raped me"
"i had sex with you because you said 'I've never done this sort of thing before'. Turns out you do this every week, so you're not really the person I thought I was sleeping with. So technically you raped me"
well it's the guy she thought he was who had sex with her so technically that's the guy she needs to charge. The guy who doesn't exist.
i've been raped over and over by girls with high heels, makeup, pushup bras, spanx, and preying on me when i'm drunk and have beer goggles. these girl lie about their smv every time they leave the house.
Very unlikely. More likely is that she holds out on him - lots of ASD type LMR - in hopes of a LTR. When they don't view you as LTR material, they bang you right away.
Fucking hell, 800k. That's an achievement right there bro. I'm on 60k a year and trying to invest 50% of my pay. Live in a old apartment and drive a shit malaysian brand car. Other guys at work are in brand new apartments and drive Subaru WRX STi's.
living comfortably now vs living comfortably in the future. Future usually pays off a shit ton.
Aren't WRX's kids cars? I saying this as a kid just for reference (18), but to me STI's have always been the cars that a kid (under 25) would want to buy a drive. I couldn't really see owning one as you approach 30. That being said, maybe by whole opinion on car's is a little screwed.
The WRX is best dollar/performance car money can buy. If you're a kid whose into WRXs, you're a kid with good tastes.
STi's are a waste cause of that crappy old engine though. Stick with the new WRX.
And by the way kiddo, the beauty of being a man who isn't BP is doing whatever the fuck you want. Jealous dudes and old women say all sorts of shit, like guys with Ferrari's have small dicks. Just a case of sour grapes, cause they couldn't get that little Ferrari dick for themselves.
Ahhh okay I see. I've always been really into JDM cars, especially during highschool, and i did do some research on them. However I'm also aware that i should question the validity of any ideas I formed in highschool, because when your a dumb kid in highschool, the only people you have to debate with are other dumb kids in highschool. That's good to know though. How does the WRX compare to something like the 370Z if you don't mind me asking, both in straight performance, and value? I've ways personally been a Nissan a small Nissan fanboy.
Aha thanks you for that! I'm quite new to the community here, and I'm still trying to get a handle on the whole red pill mentality. Quite honestly though, given who I am I think going red pill is kind of just the next stage in my growth to manhood. That being said I do have some personal reservations with the community. I, like many people who visit this sub, initially see a bunch of guys who just straight out hate woman. However, although that may be true for a group of people who visit this sub, I don't believe it's true at all for the majority of this subs viewers, nor does the actual notion of just hating woman seem to fit into the actual ideas and philosophy of the trp. The think I like about this sub is the constant debate, no matter what anyone says someone else we'll disagree, allowing you to basically always see both sides or any circumstance. So for every guy being vehemently aggressive, their well be someone saying, "hey bro, don't waste your time being so bitter". I'm sorry, I don't what I'm trying to say anymore. I suppose my point was the TRP is not what the reddit wants you to believe it is, and is actually a good place to help young men become better, but it may also have its own shortcomings, as to be expected of any community? Anyways sorry for the rant aha, as a young guy coming into this, it's all a little confusing.
Thanks for you time.
I can already tell from your writing and thought process that you're a smart kid. Being skeptical of anything you read is very important, as there's infinite amounts of garbage floating about on the internet.
I've been part of the manosphere for the better part of the last decade, and trust me, it has absolutely nothing to do with hating women. If you read through the sidebar, you'll see we even have a term for angry guys: Anger phase. This is the phase that most guys hit after realizing that society has lied to them, and abused their goodwill. The problem is the damage to the individual man is very real, and will rightly cause massive amounts of anger. For example, think of a man who married a woman who swore undying love to him who suddenly finds out that she's cheated on him and wants a divorce. He then loses his kids, his home, and everything he's worked for in the past decade. Or, for a case closer to your situation, a student who has a drunken hookup in college, only to find out he's been accused of rape by the girl who regrets having a one night stand. In both these cases, there is no sympathy for the male, and he will suffer massive consequences in his life due to no fault of his own.
The core of RedPill is understanding how men and women interact, and how variations of policy and culture can incentivize constructive or destructive behavior. In the west, we have been vilifying masculinity for the past 50 odd years since the sexual revolution, so it's to be expected that we've arrived here. The most fascinating part about all this, is that the current system actually hurts women the most, because it is they who ultimately lose out on a fulfilling life. We men are durable, and we're designed to take emotional and physical punishment. Our ancestors survived far worse, so as long as we band together and understand our environment and exert effort, we will succeed.
On a less philosophical point, the science behind human behavior is absolutely fascinating, and underpins all of RP. I actually discovered the fundamentals of RP before this sub existed by reading a few key books on evolution, which elegantly explained everything that forms the foundation of RP philosophy. I'd recommend reading The Selfish Gene and The Red Queen to start if you're interested in the science behind RP. It's quite a fascinating subject.
And finally regarding cars, the choice you have to make is RWD vs AWD. RWD is more fun, cheaper, lighter and will teach you a lot about driving at the expense of overall performance. AWD though, is faster all things considered, but heavier.
The 370Z and the BRZ are both great RWD cars. The BRZ is cheaper I believe, and lighter, but less powerful. The WRX is more convenient with four doors, and better in winter weather.
My advice: go with whatever you can afford and whatever you'll have the most fun in. Test drive both once you're close to making the call and you'll know.
For me though, cars are just fun toys. My real passion is motorcycle racing on closed tracks. This sport teaches you more about being a man than anything else. Just don't ever ride on the road.
Good luck and have fun
Yeah, they are. Most of the guys drive newer WRX's which usually cost upwards of $30k. $45k even. Most are in their 20s though.
I'd never buy one haha, only because they're too common.
Fast little rice burner. Fun car.
Keep it up brother. It's a long game just like TRP and self improvement.
I'm at 150k, I'm hoping to be at 1 million + in 10 years depending on how my investments go etc.
It's a long game and it's hard, but it's worth it.
Fuck yes. I own a house (second one, sold the first), I have 3 cars, my bank account has 5 figures, and my investments have 6.
I tell women none of what I have. They can get an idea from two of my cars, if they see them... But from my age they usually assume loans, debt, etc.... I don't correct that assumption. My money is none of their business.
She immediately slotted you into the 'Beta Bux' category, and as we all know, betas get transactional sex (not validational sex), and she was mad that you didn't fulfill your part of the transaction, you shitlord.
"Borrow". Heh. At least she could have had the honesty to just ask you to give her the 50k, because of course she never had the slightest intention of paying it back.
She splurged on an Audi SUV landbarge,no wonder shes bad with money
Ok, I'll put myself out here. Can you help me get over my insecurity about driving older cars as opposed to brand new ones? Cars are my hobby and I like odd ones and I do almost all of my Odense maintenance and performance work. I've got 25yr old Saab as a daily driver because I enjoy it and it's reliable - but most importantly it's free. I don't have confidence issues elsewhere, but right now as I prepare to go through w/ a divorce, I feel a huge hit to my confidence at driving girls in my old car as if the car is somehow an indicator of my value.
Thoughts on how I can stop being such a bitch about this?
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All valid points, I appreciate your perspective and it will help me. Odd how it doesn't bother me when I'm with friends and other car guys, but it does bother me around girls or strangers.
Your suggestion of a newer car is relevant as well as I'm nearing 300K miles on this 9000 Aero. Probably move up to a slightly newer car and get into an E38 7 series.
Do you feel embarrassed about ordering your favourite food in front of other people at a restaurant?
Do you feel ashamed about going to see a movie that you like?
If not, then why should driving a car that you like be any different? It's about YOUR happiness and no one else's.
All really good points. I'll use these to shape my internal perspective. Thank you.
Just own it, like SoTired said. If you act like it's the best car around she'll eventually agree
You can do all the maintenance? The guys with Lambo's don't know how to do shit. Which is more "manly", being able to fix your own car or having to be screwed over by the dealer to get your oil changed?
I live in a major city, don't have a car here (the car I do have is in storage, and it's the 2nd coolest car in the world, behind a Talbot Lago)... your car (or lack of) doesn't need to be important. In fact, I'd ask the girl over to help you change the oil, etc.. Use it to your advantage. When she sees you lying under the car, fixing stuff, she'll be impressed. Then throw her on the hood and bang her. I'd never throw the girl on my hood 'cause it might scratch the paint.
Life's a bitch....and then you die
Or the Blue Pill version: Life's a bitch and then you marry one.
Or the red pill version. She's a bitch and I am free.
Or the other Red Pill version: you're my bitch, bitch! Now suck my dick!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SwtOukiaGTk
Unfortunately, I am in China and they block youtube.
Video is Letterkenny Problems: "The Produce Stand"
You may be able to find a non YouTube mirror.
pure gold right here.
"If a man with disposable income meets a women he likes, doesn't he want to treat her?" and "He could have easily kept our relationship alive by being forthcoming"
I love how he doesnt love her because he does not spend enough money on her.
Women and guys see this story very differently.
Women think he's a dick for just leaving her because it comes across like she was a gold digger, when she is concerned that he is lazy.
Guys love him because it shows that a woman cannot just love a guy unconditionally. Theres always something that hes not doing to show he loves her.
You couldn't just love him for who he was. You had to try and change him. He lacked 'ambition' and all of those things you think makes a great man, when actually he could have loved you, and taken care of you and your spawn forever.
Truly women can't love unconditionally.
She left him. The women in the thread weren't even sympathetic.
he is lazy. nothing changed. he has the ability to be lazy is the only difference. if she really hated the lazy characteristic, she would not regret her choice.
Great point. I mean, technically he is lazy. He could have been trying to achieve more. But he's cool with were he is and that's fine.
She wanted the lifestyle that comes with money, not the man.
actually all the comments on 2x are calling her out. It's awesome.
I remember reading her original story and feeling a smug sense of schadenfreud.
But now I just find it sad.
Yeah, she fucked up. She let her feelings of inadequacy get the better of her, and she dumped her ex thinking that money was all that mattered.
But how much of this attitude did she inherit from the sick over-feminized culture in which she grew up? In a society that mistakes pleasure for happiness, and money for fulfillment, how could a growing child know any different?
We certainly didn't, until it hit us hard enough to hurt.
This is the role that masculinity serves in society. It keeps us focused on what is important, and steers us away from what is frivolous. It keeps women entranced and disciplined, and gives shape to their lives so they do not feel lost or purposeless.
To live a masculine life is to pursue the maximization of your happiness. Plain and simple. There can be NO happiness for anyone if men are not happy first.
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The only reason Red Pill Women exists is because men created The Red Pill first, and then women said "Hey, let's do something like that too!"
No. Women will not lead the charge on anything. They never do. Women follow. That is their nature.
Being the best we can be to those who matter to us is the ONLY thing men can do.
We cannot build a movement and save society, because that is precisely the self-sacrificing-gone-haywire that got us into this mess in the first place. If this toxic environment is ever to reverse itself at the grand scale, it must happen as the result of changes made at the individual scale. That is as much control as any of us have over the matter.
Truly. And i have a lot of doubts a woman can ever really be rep pilled outside of peronal interests and aims (=she's ugly; she's been burned in the past; she hates competition; etc. etc)
Most of the posts i've read in the redpillwomen sub, they sounded like parrots trying to say things to make certain demographics happy, not because they really grasped or believed in their words.
Awalt, awalt, awalt.
did you know autism is more difficult to diagnose in females, because even in their autistic state they try harder to integrate and look normal in the society? They're like Blade Runner's replicants. Aliens trying to assimilate.
Agree. Whenever I saw that subreddit I just saw whores trying to become wives. Women just hate to be excluded. Women cant even let men have TRP to themselves.
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Just watched the documentary, "Surviving Progress" on netflix. Highly recommend.
TLDW: humans are becoming so successful, it's leading to their demise. Economics doesnt factor in the natural order of the earth. History is repeating itself.
I agree.
I also think her original response seems to make sense. She wanted a life where her BB provided her with the traditional "american dream". He was not going to be that man, so she needed to find another.
She laments the fact that he could have been the ultimate provider even more due to the fact that she loved the other characteristics he brought to the table. She couldn't break him into the provider she wanted, and he was basically the best case scenario for her if she had been able to.
Exactly. +1
Her delusion - her illness - was in approaching the situation with entitlements (he owes me) rather than incentives (how can I inspire his loyalty and protective instinct?).
Had she been inoculated from developing a poisonous entitlement complex, she might still be with this guy, and the two of them could be working to make one another happy.
I don't want to see anyone lose if everyone can win.
The American dream. While it meant to achive what you can do and live life like you wanted it changed into a white picket fence, ever smiling children and a housewife with all the kitchen gadgets one could ever dream of. While daddy is a former staff sarge who killed a lot of krauts fucking her good at night and functions like a well oiled machine and shielding little miss sunshine from all the real world monsters ie mortage payments, the IRS, wage cuts, lay-offs, student loans.
He's going to burn through a dozen girls like her before he settles down, if he even does. He's a rich and likeable guy that thinks for himself.
She probably never had a chance.
Funny how the exact opposite is preached in BP media. "Happy wife, happy life" anyone?
The Red Pill teaches the opposite: "Happy life, happy wife."
Holy fuck that is some warp-speed hamstering. I've seen a similar scenario play out years ago when a former female friend ran into her ex-boyfriend (who had she dumped some years earlier for 'reasons' etc.) at a party accompanied by his hotter, younger and more talented new girlfriend. Much later, her sobs came from the darkest well of misery I've ever seen a woman drown in. Genuine howls of pain that lasted for hours. The 'pathetic beta chump' she had wantonly chucked was now a successful and handsome alpha. The only way her female friends could comfort her was to call the new girlfriend every spiteful name under the sun and make up slanderous stories about her. Oh, and the ex-boyfriend? That asshole "never appreciated what he once had". The guys in the room looked at each other and WE ALL KNEW...
Massive Schadenboner. And a round of applause for Mr. Will MA MAN
this story is the fucking funniest shit. she broke up with him because she thought he was a loser. absolutely nothing has changed about him genetically other than the fact that he's inherited millions. now she loves him so much.
Fantastic example of a woman's casual relationship with the truth. AWALT.
The story changes after the fact in accordance with her mood, agenda or narrative, in this case the narrative required for her to claim victim-hood at a NYE party and on reddit.
Learn from this example. Don't underestimate a woman's capacity to do one thing and say another while 100% believing her own lies.
Goddammit i remember this. Is the original still up? Where can I find it? I want to read the comments. They weren't sympathetic to her last time.
She deleted her post, and the mods deleted the comments because people were too honest with her.
There's still an existing archive that has some of the comments before they were deleted though
https://archive.is/ednsL (The original post.)
https://archive.is/Nf7nf (The updated post.)
It's really damn satisfying to read.
This is said to be the original post: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCoweMSUMAA63Cb.png (linked in your archive of the original post). In case someone just wants the posts and not the comments.
Thank you. I really needed to read the preamble to the story, as it was deleted.
Thank God people here archive this sort of shit.
Really satisfying thanks. Not sure if this was the reason but i know those mods don't allow relationship advice posts in that subreddit. She might have been making a complain post though. Which is typical of that sub.
Rotfl, the comments have been wiped in the original post. Mods went bananas to censor everything.
I started following the red pill after the initial story. I still can't believe how she rationalises everything into her favor.. Fucking dudes of tinder waiting for MR. Right, sadly that's the majority of girls I know..
Thats 98% of women. Fucking alphas while waiting for their perfect beta bux.
They don't wait for beta bux, they settle for beta bux.
When they can't get the alpha, with bux, who will spend on her. . . or she unknowingly threw him away LMFAO.
This is female disgusting behavior at it's finest. Their feeding off the drama created by their female friend whilst simultaneously giving her advice that's against her best interest. They want her to be miserable so they can have a one up in the group. Classic bitch behaviour. And they do all this under the pretence of being "her friend". But make no mistake, each and everyone of them is plotting the destruction of the rest of the group.
Women ain't team players and will never know what it's like to genuinely care about anyone else in their whole lives.
I literally do not understand any rp man who wants a ltr Why use a selfish disgusting creature aka a female, for anything other than sex?
You're preaching to the choir man. Maybe it's me but there's no way I could enter an honest relationship with a woman nowadays.
I've adopted something I call 'Pretend Relationships', the idea being that when forced I eventually agree to an LTR. But in my mind she's still a plate and I just continue with my standard programming. Eventually she might break and implode but who cares about that. I've got no fucks left to give.
Sad reality but hey, at least everyone is getting laid more than before.
Think about what you mean when you say "honest relationship".
What you likely mean is a relationship where exchanges are "fair" and there's no social manoeuvring or manipulation necessary.
Relationships have always required manoeuvring and manipulation, but you didn't realize it until you took the Red Pill. Fair exchange is not something that happens with women.
LTRs are possible with wome if you charge them upfront and get what you want first, and THEN they can have something in return.
"Fairness" is just a word women use to get free stuff. Once their stomachs stop growling they don't know what the word means.
No dude I meant entering a relationship with a woman where I'd stay loyal, feel some semblance of responsibility for her or where I'd honestly care for her.
I tried but I really don't think I'm able to go beyond "liking" some girl. After discovering TRP any sliver of guilt I had for this basically just vanished.
Besides that I do agree with everything else you've said.
Ah, indeed.
Well, being loyal isn't your problem. It's a woman's job to incentivize you into investing in her emotionally. This is the lost art of "girl game", and it is a skill in which modern women are sorely lacking.
I dont even get into LTRs. im just gonna plate, fwb & ons for the rest of my life . No woman is worth any investment besides a lay. Women are nothing but a series of holes and a walking life support system for those holes, to me. Honestly wish they were just sold like cattle & bred for breeding. Like clone Chambers in star wars. Women are impossible to have a relationship with because the most effective way of dealing with them is not to have a relationship with them.
There's no point in having any real interest or care for a woman, unless you want to shoot yourself in the foot.
Basically. My mom & aunts are the only woman I have Any genuine care for.
All other women exist to be used or fucked.
"she want me to make hery wife, hold up, get outta my sight Never loved a bitch cept my momma, please, wont be the first in my life" - GMEBE Bandz, Demons. Good song.
Dude I am laughing my ass off here. If you're a parody or not thank you.
Nah I'm deadass serious lmao, no problem tho.
Another happy ending.
This one is better than "It's a Wonderful Life".
Important to notice how this story changed. Before she dumped him because he had no professional ambition. Now they broke up because of his dishonesty. Whoops, nice little adjustment to better fit the facts after the fact. I loathe people like this.
The first version of this story was pretty different than today's account. She's actually twisted her own version of the facts to better justify her actions. This is a great find.
I didn't see the original post, so tried to track it down there (deleted now) but a of couple her comments are still on. Wow.
She tries to justify it by saying she thought he was living wage to wage (as a musician) and that she wanted a family, so that wouldn't work - a fair point. *However, I'd imagine if he was on the same page as her (i.e. that serious) money would have come up at some point. Even not disclosing how much but being like "I can support a family without giving up music" or whatever. Then she goes on about not wanting "pampered" and its just about marriage/family some day...but then says if she was the one with money she would want to buy him things. So...you want him to buy things for you then, yeah?
Edit: * a fair point if it was a small paycheck, barely covering his needs.
Well, the argument gets a little post hoc ergo propter hoc. She doesn't know that he's been dishonest until after she dumps him. They didn't break up, she ended it. He didn't throw it away, she did. And she uses his omission for justification after the fact.
Now that she regrets it, the blame is transferred to him. Dude is still doing his thing, she's just upset because she blew it.
Yeah, I've been linked the original post now, so that helps a lot! Obviously before I could only go on bits posted here and her comments. But even her remaining comments alone were ridiculous - effectively, "I don't want to be pampered but people with money like to do nice things for people they care about, I'd do it for him (so he should for me)."
I see now that they hadn't been together that long though, which makes sense in that he kept his money quiet - she was probably the only one thinking about funding family at that time (or at least thinking about it enough as an excuse to use later...). Her original post is as bad as those comments though, as I can see now!
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Thank you! That was...wow, just something else!
best part is that nothing changed about the guy. he still had/has no ambition as she defined it. he's still a "loser" in her eyes, but now a loser with money.
A friend of mine used to go dancing nightly in Dallas during the 80s. He had a friend that showed up to the club in a beat up pickup truck, wearing clean clothes, nothing fancy. This guy would dance with quite a few girls over the months, and eventually dated one, leading to marriage. That's when he revealed to her, and my friend, that he was a self made multimillionaire. He claimed he would have never known if a woman married him for the money.
Unless there's a prenup and you're broke at the time.... she married him for money. It's always about the money.
Sure, in this case she didn't know that there was a jackpot... but she married expecting a monthly payment with a highly expensive (for him) opt out clause.
the problem with women these days is they want it all. they want to be taken care of but they don't feel like they should save themselves for that man. they want to ride the cock carousel then get taken care of by a good man. well, does anyone ever pick up trash at the park? no, they hire a janitor for that right? that's because nobody takes care of public property. well, if a woman gets fucked by like 30 guys, she's basically public property.
can someone explain to me why a man who has choices would ever choose a woman who was used up by 30 other guys? why would he devote all his time and energy into taking care of such a woman and put her on a pedestal?
This is rhetorical right? We dont have to explain to you how that they've been entitled so much that this is how they are now.
Was this the guy who sat eating cheap food and watching YouTube documentaries and she wasn't happy with such a low-budget lifestyle?
Yeah, potato soup and torrenting movies
(mortal kombat voice) "ALPHA WIDOWED"
So uh could anyone point me in the right direction of this thread so I can see the comments for research purposes....?
Missed one.
Solipsism ... everyone is just an actor in a movie in which she is the main character. This chick is going all touchy feely not to spite the ex but because she's probably super hot for Alpha Will.
He demonstrated bonus SMV by showing up with a hot girl who is all over him and now she wants him back in order to take him away from the hot girl.
My favorite part of her original post was this:
If a man with disposable income meets a woman he likes, doesn't he want to treat her?
Maybe she should've treated him. Equal pay, right? So many women are so adamant that they should get paid the same as men, but when it comes to paying for their half of a relationship? Hell no.
The hypocrisy is astounding.
You need to become a 2nd wife. It's your only chance.
A great example of:
Men desire Freedom, Women desire Access
...as long as the girl thought there was nothing to gain Access to she was lukewarm about this guy who maintained his Freedom and secrecy.
Once the secret is revealed she desires Access.
Women don't really love things they can have.
...but another lesson is that the guy was unable to establish masculine polarity over the woman without falling back on material things like his Bucks. That's not good. If the woman dumped him then that's doing him a favor.
In the long run a LTR demands masculine polarity without the Bucks.
Don't forget Divorce Rape and Child Support... all the Bucks in the world do no good with the laws being what they are these days.
Child Support Laws weren't even invented until 1950.
That's because welfare and social security had just started. It wasn't fair for the rest of the taxpayers to pay for someone else's kid. Wear a condom if you don't want to pay for your own child. The rest of us don't want to pay for YOUR kid either.
The premise of the law forgets that men do pay for their children. Just not as much as the woman wants him to. Imagine the government going into a married man's house and telling him that he made so much money he was required to buy his child the brand named sneakers, not the generic knock offs. The father is being told he must spend $X on his children, that they are entitled to it even if he is trying to protect them from being spoiled. Add to that the fact that he's not allowed to spank his children for acting spoiled, and that's how we get a generation of entitled spoiled children.
I don't give a shit one way or the other. I'm just pointing out that the support laws started once welfare started paying for children of unmarried mothers.
Well, the state should just not get involved with family affairs.
If you ban Child Support like it was before 1950 (it was illegal because of Old English Law) then a woman must be careful about who she has sex with.
So this is how "changing history in her mind" works. Women are incredible.
I gotta admit, I love reading stories about women getting FUCKED. After seeing so many instances of the man getting screwed its good to know the women are also getting fucked every now and then. Keep crying those bitch tears, ladies! :)
There's an important theory conversation we can have about this. People are saying that she was 'alpha widowed' but he hid money from her so theory says the attraction was 'beta bux.' Now, just as I wrote this, I realized my error. He was with her without her having any idea of his money. He alpha-ed her. When she realized he had money he double-alpha-ed her. Therefore, widow.
Agree?
"Will, you're not good enough for me, you don't have the kind of money I like. Goodbye, Will."
"Bye sweetie. Btw, I'm sitting on a few mil in oil investment money."
"What?! How dare you hide that from ME? Will? WILLLLLL..."
This wasn't a case of Alpha vs Beta, it was just a clever man vs. a basic bitch, with all the delicious heartrending results we've come to expect from such a match.
She is great fun like most girls... In that she looks at a man and sees only what's in it for her. You don't understand the first of it, if you're a man. They're living in a different world. It's like a teeming pool of she-sharks, and it's a free for all, who can grab the most manmeat for herself. Plus all the other sharks WILL gossip about you.
Her situation is like having the winning lottery ticket but throwing it in the trash and learning about it afterwards. Missing the chance of a lifetime.
I believe a woman feels a multimillionaire to be alpha initially, her prejudice gives him alpha credit, which the millionaire can squander though and change the woman's perception.
The typical betabux is only "well-off", having lower end 6-fig income, which can only give comfort, whereas an opulent lifestyle can provide real tingles without game if the man can set boundaries ("hold frame").
I was thinking it was alpha... then alpha bux.
I think you're on track. I can't remember the details of the original story so I don't know if he's 'alpha' or 'beta' or what. My first instinct is that she's tingling for provider though. But in reality he's not using his money to try to be her provider, so got an alpha trait at least. Potentially alpha bucks because he didn't give a fuck when she dumped him or try to buy her love. Again though, I don't know how the rest of their relationship was, simply speculation.
From the last story he sounded alpha because she mentioned something like bitching to him about his ambition and how playing the guitar isn't a real job and she told him she was leaving and "he acted like he didn't care" and that really pissed her off.
So he was probably like "as you wish, there's the door, bye".
This story is almost to good to be true. I hope it's not a long con troll.
Are long con trolls a thing? Jesus, Internet. I thought you'd make the world awesome when I was a kid. Now I kinda wish you'd go away, like for real. Anyway, thanks for the follow up!
This is the same girl that got upset with the man not disclosing his financial status to her?
Ah, I remember the original post from way back. It warmed my cold dead heart and I have been resolved to be a Will myself in the future.
Will dodged a bullet on that one. He was spared a life of bullshit and drama from an obviously inadequate, self absorbed, psychologically fragile and admittedly loose bimbo. Will didn't share his wealth information with her for a reason. That reason is, she was exactly this for Will ---> Quote "I was pretty unhappy for a while, not gonna lie. Went on a few dates, had a few Tinder flings, but nothing serious......just all-around happy and patiently waiting for Mr. Right to come along.".
Redpill porn at its finest, gentlemen.
I never forgot this story, I'm glad to read an update on them. She really fucked up hard and tried to redirect blame on him. Now she's begging for sympathy while Will never even gives her a second thought.
She was so close to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow...
So close.
Is this the one that ended the relationship because she wanted to buy a house and he was just cool jamming on his guitar and living meekly while letting ample oil residuals come in? Because she didn't break up with him for 'lying', she broke up with him because she thought he 'lacked ambition'. It's amazing how the mind re-writes history like that.
And not discussing your finances is 'lying'? Really? Since when? I was of the impression that it was socially rude to ask people about money, and that it was up to them if they wanted to talk about it.
WTF?
well at least this story had a happy ending. Have to admit I lolled at the 'remember he was the one that lied to you' bullshit lol. Yeah you're the victim
Negative. Her friends were luxuriating in the tingles and emotions that were unfolding that night. The Alpha Widow's drama was the emotional equivalent of an all-expenses paid trip to a 4 star day spa. They were feeding off of her.
And you can bet it was the same bunch of harpies who encouraged her to break up with him in the first place.
They were also interested to get any clues that could give them a shot at him.
It's weird but I feel an urge to fap after reading this.
Gives me a boner of justice too.
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go to the "top all time" and ctrl-f "oil". I originally posted it :)
you can find it under my submitted posts
I remember this. The way she re-manufactured a completely fictional version of what happened between them the first time, and evidently seems to genuinely believe it is borderline sociopathic.
Hahaha get fucked you whore.
She will find her Beta Bux after fucking some more Tinder strange cock to get alpha off her mind. She'll settle down and marry, and one day she will bump into alpha again, he'll flood her panties and maybe fuck her, and it will all be BB's fault.
Remember gents, it's never her fault.
I'd love to see the OP. I wonder what she wrote
Are you trying to advertise your profile? Why can't you link the article lime everyone else. You say we should go your page but I don't even know what the original article is called. I would have preferred reading that before having a look at your watered down version
Or you could to the "top all time" and ctrl-f "oil"... I was the original poster and he's trying to win internet points i guess
What a delusional and psychotic person.
Reading this high school shit made my penis soft.
Can someone provide the original source for this and the second post of it?
I reviewed the original story and was hoping for a link to the original post by the woman. I want to read the comments. Will you post the link?
Haha, thank you for the epilogue to this story. When you fail to call out yourself for your own mistakes, you're not getting off the pain train anytime soon, because you willingly chose to keep riding.
Will, will seem like a dude I'd have a beer with. Good on you will, let's have a brewski.
Haha, I love these stories. Keep them coming please!
Link to the story
The comments on the original post are gold!
Hah, the great story gets better.
If you aren't an heir to a fortune, she'll resent you. Good thing I don't give a shit.
I remember this story. It's been a long road.
Thread music. You might want to lower the volume if you have some earphones on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1qXQRpF08E
this keeps getting worse and worse
And also, her "friends" want to fuck him as well to have their own chance to secure the cash
What is your page? Why can't you just post a link to your reference?
And THIS, boys and girls, is why you beat your EX and get over your EX, by being successful in life. None of this "how do I get revenge" or "how do I fuck her up" BS. Women know this, and have it down like a science. Live life, make lots of money, do awesome hobbies, lift, have fun, and make something of yourself.
LOL at serving her potato soup and downloading a movie to watch. He handled his breakup like a boss, but honestly he sounds like a bit of a loser.
I have a little sympathy for her. Women do have a clock. She wanted to understand that things were moving forward. Maybe he wasn't communicating enough for her to believe it would actually happen. She wanted commitment, and given her biology, it's a reasonable thing for her to want.
But then why would she make the point now about dishonesty? He did nothing unfair or wrong to her.
I read your original story.
The young woman is an obvious gold digger. She wanted the guy to spend money on her, buy flashy things, live in a new house, and drive a new car. She mentioned several things related to that...he had an old car...lived in an old house...and had shirts over two years old. She is as mercenary as a pirate.
The man dodged a bullet.
Everytime I read "Mr. Right", a little part of me dies, and a new seed of rage takes its place.
Gonna leave the archive.today link to the original post here, for posterity's sake.
https://archive.is/75520
Now I want to read the original story.
Any help?
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She misses his money and the act that she was close enough to Taste it without ever knowing it was there for the taking causes her a near-physical pain.
According to her posts, she was texting him and trying to get back with him before she found out about the money. It just hit a lot harder when she found out about it.
This is probably due in part to how she said he didn't emotionally respond when she broke up with him. He just calmly replied "fine by me" and slammed the door behind her after refusing a goodbye hug.
This was a nuclear shit test and an attempt to mold him into her BB. He passed the test with flying colors, earning her respect. Then he is found to be loaded, earning even more respect. Unfortunately for her, her ST went too far for him and he was done with her.
go to the "top all time" and ctrl-f "oil". I posted it :)
Read the comments here. It's hidden in there.
go to the "top all time" and ctrl-f "oil". I originally posted it :)
its under my submitted posts
Found it, thanks.
I don't know what's better, her trying to text/establish FwB relationship with him after they broke up, or her trying to justify to his friends why she broke up with him.
I do love the fact that after her shit test blew up in her face, she's the victim. Classic.
Whenever this story is posted, I feel it's necessary to bring up that her leaving him was totally valid. The guy seemed like a fucking chump.
The OMG he's rich what did I do hamstering is hilarious though, obviously.
What a pig! It sickens me to see how he didn't have any regret of throwing away a wonderful relationship and then to top it off he brings a hotty with him to make this poor girl, who has recently been emotionally scared by men on Tinder for trying to fill a hole in her life that was caused by him to begin with, jealous.
What the fuck was 'he LIED to me'. What the fuck does it mean? What exactly did he do to her? If he lied to her then he probably lied about something. Like what? He may had another family, that's understandable. Or maybe he lied to her about his job - in real life he turned out to be a crazy rapist who attacking women, raping them and then rob them. I don't know - and she is probably still sexually attracted to him because he was ok for her except he LIED about something and we would never know about what exactly. So Fuck Her, that's my opinion.
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Half of your post history is you being offended, so for some reason you assume everyone is that easily offended. Most people don't have the thin skin of a teenage girl, though. Now run along, there's other posts that could be offending you out there.