What do guys consider "fat"?

Whisper · 2020-01-27T18:16:33+00:00

It's about shape not size.

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viveboy123 · 2020-01-27T12:41:27+00:00

If you have to ask, yeah, you're fat.

Rengax · 2020-01-27T09:19:13+00:00

I'm european and for me fat is everythig above a normal BMI. But i have to say that i dont see a lot of overweight people here in germany and im kinda skinny myself. Maybe obesity to that extend is a mostly american issue tho

EDIT: Normal BMI is max 23/24 for me fyi

wateroclock · 2020-01-27T08:49:01+00:00

Being healthy sounds unrealistic! America.

LillthOfBabylon · 2020-01-27T10:34:52+00:00

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Tyler_Gatsby · 2020-01-27T11:19:31+00:00

In the camp that thinks it's mostly about shape and proportion, and as long as her boobs stick out over her belly, she's possibly still ok. That said, I'm never touching or at least hooking up to really date a woman that weighs as much or more than me again. In fact I'm going back to the old rule of must be around 30lbs less than me at least. No more, "I'm dieting now, I'm going to get back down to _, just trust me, watch and see!" Nope

Ordinary-West · 2020-01-27T14:30:24+00:00

Only in America people saying eating less food is expensive and that fat is healthy.

webernicke · 2020-01-27T09:30:40+00:00

It's a moot point because "don't be fat" isn't even a real standard. Men don't have any standards that they can enforce on women by and large. (Heh. Large.)

churnthrowaway123456 · 2020-01-27T12:18:57+00:00

You have to adjust for age. Less than 50% of American women in their 20s are overweight.

grand_tiremaster · 2020-01-27T09:15:37+00:00

My bf is 6ft something and he weighs 275 lbs. Most of that is muscle plus a little chub, but none of my friends think he is fat. He has a huge upper body and is just a big guy in general. I don’t think he is fat.

But I have seen dudes who also weigh 275 or more and they got a giant ass blubbery belly. Man boobs big like a woman’s. They look like all they eat is southern macaroni with bacon grease. I think they look fat.

whynot1871 · 2020-01-27T09:31:04+00:00

Lets start of with stating that BMI is a poor measurement.

It's more about body type than just weight and fat%. Two women with the same height, weight and fat% can look very different. I don't care about a few extra pounds, as long as the shape is still feminine.

Kalt1224 · 2020-01-27T08:41:09+00:00

I think body shape plays a more important role then weight. So fat will be different based off of size and proportions. Having chest:waist:hips in the 2:1:3 variables will help people not view the person as overweight. (Just my opinion)

2020-01-27T09:34:53+00:00

In the UK and US, the overwhelming majority of men and women fall far short of how our ancestors used to look when we were hunter gatherers. That's how the ideal human physique should be. Our bodies were much leaner and harder. We weren't lugging around excess fat. Women obviously have more fat naturally, and there is the whole recovery after childbirth thing, but I would say beyond a small belly we're in fat territory.

The BMI seems to be a good measure for people who aren't muscley, although it completely breaks down once you start looking at people who lift.

2020-01-27T10:00:08+00:00

Fatter than me, according my own judgement.

lilpumpski · 2020-01-27T12:59:06+00:00

Distended belly = fat

Workaholiconew · 2020-01-27T12:59:24+00:00

Generally speaking I consider most men consider fat any woman who is between the BMI of 24 and 30. While 'obese' is above that.

LillthOfBabylon · 2020-01-27T13:02:08+00:00

I'm in the normal range of BMI, how is that unreasonable to expect a partner that is similar?

There is no excuse for being fat or even overweight.

MrHerbSherman · 2020-01-27T18:32:56+00:00

Anything above bmi 23 excepting for a few fitness outliers

CentralAdmin · 2020-01-28T03:33:36+00:00

For me, I can handle overweight if she still has her curves. It's when they're reaching obese territory that it's a turnoff.

Here's a visual representation of the BMI range:

https://images.agoramedia.com/everydayhealth/gcms/BMI-in-Adults-722x406.jpg

So up to overweight is okay in terms of shape, though you may get exceptions because women are shaped differently, such as pear or hourglass.

Here's an article about it:

https://steemit.com/new/@j1984mg/what-body-type-do-you-prefer

I think most guys would be okay with slender to chubby, with most okay with the slender to curvy range. There's a lot of wiggle room there for women because they can still have quite a bit of fat and be considered attractive. I would still encourage women to lift because it firms up what they have but try to picture the equivalent men and see if women would find them equally attractive.

MakeMoneyNotWar · 2020-01-27T10:48:40+00:00

Expecting a woman to be physically fit weight is the equivalent of women expecting men to be 6 feet, 6 inches and earn 6 figures.

These are standards we place because they sound reasonable on the surface until we see the numbers but even then, the numbers don't do much to sway our preferences. I believe there is another statistic showing that about 8% of women partake in exercise so it would be incredibly unrealistic for me to expect a woman who has exercise as a part of her lifestyle to begin with.

Does that make the standard unreasonable? Not always. Personally, I consider a woman with flabby skin to be fat. This can start very early on at low BMI's and won't be obvious until that number rises but as far as being labelled 'fat' goes, that's my threshold. This doesn't mean a woman instantly becomes unattractive as soon as she has flabby skin but it's an indication that she doesn't care much about dieting / exercise and that is what is unattractive to me.

As somebody who works out and knows they have an objectively better body than most women, it is not unreasonable for me to block fat chicks.

blackedoutfast · 2020-01-27T15:28:45+00:00

fat women are disgusting regardless of how common they are. if EVERY woman was fat, i would just become a volcel.

a woman with 25% body fat or higher is FAT and should be ashamed of her body

Worlds_Dumbest_Nerd · 2020-01-28T01:23:48+00:00

First off, there's no superiority or inferiority to people's subjective standards. All that really matters is that the two people in question tick each other's boxes, and having disproportionately high standard while not meeting others' will probably lead to spending a lot of time alone.

"fat" is subjective. As far as I'm concerned the line is having a full on gut or not having a waist, which, because women typicqlly accumulate gynoid fat rather than android, (hence the name), doesn't exclude a good portion of "overweight" women.

The other side of this is that most men do have standards beyond "don't be fat", but that's often an absolute disqualifier.

dawnpriestess · 2020-01-28T14:41:29+00:00

Your belly should not stick out further than your chest.

exit_sandman · 2020-01-27T08:53:13+00:00

The term "fat" is reserved for people who are obese (there's still being "overweight" though).

For reference, I wouldn't call Ashley Graham "fat", Adele on the other hand was.

diffdedbed · 2020-01-27T14:05:53+00:00

That sounds unrealistic, especially if the guy lives in the USA.

Lol no. It just means you have to be a good enough guy to appeal to women who are either vain or smart enough to not be fat. There is a reason fat is correlated with low income and it's not that healthy food is expensive.

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rus9384 · 2020-01-27T10:29:18+00:00

Depends on a guy. Personally I can consider some normal BMI (on the fatter end) girls fat.

Karmanger · 2020-01-27T16:06:02+00:00

I want a woman who is similar to me in size. I myself am in shape I would like my partner to reflect that too. I want someone I know will be healthy enough to live along side me well past being 80. I can't recall seeing Fat old people.

PapaPinyun · 2020-01-27T17:52:20+00:00

On women, "fat" to me is measured by the asscheek parting at the bottom. If the cheeks curve up and in, not fat. If they slide downward and mush together where there's instead a cleft in other women- fat.

Thechainsmokers99 · 2020-01-27T17:56:48+00:00

This. Fat distribution is lot more important than weight. I've met women (usually black or latina) that are 200 pounds and manage to have a very feminine shape with most of the weight being legs/ass/boobs

Sepean · 2020-01-27T19:53:34+00:00

I wouldn’t call BMI 19-20 fat, but I’m not interested in girls who are at that weight. Girls should be fit and slim, not being fat is a ridiculously low bar.

Shadow_Of_ · 2020-01-27T21:11:41+00:00

5"4 180 pounds.

2020-01-27T22:48:10+00:00

Show us a picture and well tell you.

Pontifex_Lucious-II · 2020-01-27T23:29:50+00:00

You just made the argument why American women are trash.

WIA20XX · 2020-01-28T00:40:37+00:00

Rebel Wilson, Meghan McCain, Lizzo = fat

throwitaway314592654 · 2020-01-28T02:18:24+00:00

I want a woman with a good waist/hip ratio. Being skinny isn’t enough.

I’m willing to date around and wait it out as I’ve had plenty that meet this standard. Currently with a woman for 6 years with it z

king_of_red_alphas · 2020-01-28T16:07:39+00:00

Lena Dunham and up, I’d say.

darksoldierk · 2020-01-29T03:19:14+00:00

Yeah, the reason why men's expectation on weight is more realistic than most of women's expectations is that men's expectation is something that the woman can control. A man can't, for example, control being 6 feet tall. The 72% of women who are overweight can lose weight, it's not easy, but it's not impossible. A man can't magically increase his height.

circlingldn · 2020-01-29T16:36:00+00:00

London andrews=thick as fuck...

rebel wilson=fat as fuck

ScootsScoots · 2020-01-30T14:23:08+00:00

Here we go making something simple really hard for no reason.

Fat is fat. We all know what it looks like. Some girls who are only a little fat are still attractive....but they are still fat.

Fat is extra tissue that shouldn't be there.

Put the frappe down and step away from the donuts. Walk backwards to my voice, we have steaks and veggies.

arcticshqip · 2020-01-27T16:20:08+00:00

Most men also consider normal weight women fat. To men fat is everything above european size 34.

Ordinary-West · 2020-01-27T09:21:12+00:00

According to someone on here, my BMI of 24 makes me fat.

joesmithasdf · 2020-01-27T19:58:47+00:00

I prefer very low BMI and proud, just like some fat people say they’re proud of being landwhales.

BMI can be hard to estimate. My guess is my favorite range is 17-19. Never had trouble finding them. Used to be married to a 19, most of the latest girls I’ve been with are 18-19.

Anything above 22 is fat imo, I don’t care about medical standards.

Eastuss · 2020-01-27T09:23:49+00:00

It's harder to not be fat in the USA as you age, however most 20 year olds aren't fat nor overweight. 90% of the women < 30 I see aren't overweight or fat. Though I'm french so it's not as bad as the USA, but still.

Then there are women who carry their fat well and women who look fat even when they're not fat (think khloe kardashian who has a permanent fat face, still lot of people find her attractive)

But even while men voiced this only criteria, women are still not any more apologetic about men being overweight.

Title	What do guys consider "fat"?
Author	LillthOfBabylon
Upvotes	16
Comments	366
Date	January 27, 2020 8:37 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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