"You do not automatically trust men around young children. The risk of a mistake is too high."

TheRealMouseRat · 2014-12-23T10:21:01+00:00

the potential of theft is just higher with black employees than with white. you do not automatically trust black people around merchandise. the risk of a mistake is just too high.

the potential for emotional instability is just higher with women than it is with men. you can't automatically trust women with positions of authority. the risk of a mistake is just too high.

etc., etc.

HashtagRebbit · 2014-12-23T11:35:49+00:00

at least the male pedophiles are scared of being caught. Many female teachers seem to think that they are the victim after raping their students.

I would think a teaching position would be the worst job for a male pedo. Every one already assumes you are a pedo by virtue of being male. However for a female pedo it is probably the best job you can get. Even if you get caught the public will say "lucky boy"

baserace · 2014-12-23T09:18:12+00:00

In other words:

The statistics might prove me wrong. I don't want to know the statistics. Sexist stereotypes rock.

This is the director of a young children's school that people pay good money to put their kids in.

Idiot.

Deefry · 2014-12-23T09:52:41+00:00

As someone who is hoping to break into teaching, this attitude both disgusts and terrifies me.

mycatatemyface · 2014-12-23T12:00:11+00:00

That may be a stereotype that i hold that statistics would bear me wrong on, but i'm sure it's one that many people hold.

What a colossal asshole.

Qapiojg · 2014-12-23T13:48:21+00:00

Yup just one of the many reasons there's a shortage of male teachers in the workforce. Men are just walking predators to the general public.

The following has happened to me 4 times, 3 of which I've been with a friend and his kid and the other with my little cousin.

Went to the park, sat on a bench with my friend(or headphones). Let the kid play and get all that crazy energy out of their system. Look up every now and again to make sure there's no kicking or crying going on. Hour and a half in the kid has come back a few times to rest before sprinting back to the playground, see some officers walking up. They start talking about "suspicious people" in the area near the playground and start asking questions. They end up leaving when they're satisfied we're not furiously masturbating to children sliding down fire poles. No questions to the old lady who was their long before we arrived, or to the soccer mom who's kid felt every other child's shins were the ball. Nope, just the two guys chilling on the bench.

Any male caretaker of kids is already a kiddy fiddler, they just don't know it yet. At least that's what the general public believes.

nplant · 2014-12-23T10:58:37+00:00

Why would you automatically trust women around young children then?

AaronTheBearded · 2014-12-23T15:50:03+00:00

You do not automatically trust black people around money. The risk of a mistake is too high.

You do not automatically trust Asians around delivery cars. The risk of a mistake is too high.

You do not automatically trust Muslims around firearms. The risk of a mistake is too high.

blueoak9 · 2014-12-23T16:08:53+00:00

"Teach women not to kill children"

I want to see this on posters everywhere.

Jay_j88 · 2014-12-23T10:33:18+00:00

What the shit is that.

SporkTornado · 2014-12-23T17:27:16+00:00

Lets try a word swap

I am the director of Montessori airport. I also have a wonderful muslim who works in my terminal. He was the fourth individual hired and had worked as an assistant traffic controller with me for many months previously.

I would not have hired a muslim if I had not known him first.

I had to know and trust him. I needed to be willing to truly know that he was safe around airplanes and the airport terminal. You do not automatically trust muslims around airplanes. The risk of a mistake is too high.

Does it sound like hate speech yet?

atheist4thecause · 2014-12-23T12:46:52+00:00

My issue isn't with the idea to not automatically trust men, it's with the idea that we can automatically trust women. This is why we need to do background checks on people and even randomly check in on all teachers from time to time. This type of discrimination actually is illegal, so hopefully that protects men that are currently being discriminated against, but I doubt they'll ever find out.

InBaggingArea · 2014-12-23T10:12:08+00:00

I would like to draw attention to the word "emotional".

EDIT: Emotional damage not regarded as worse than physical. Merely killing a child in, say, a road crash, less egregious than this other nefarious form of damage. What is it? What makes it so bad? Is it mere abuse of trust? If so, are non-sexual forms as bad? Why is it necessarily worse than being examined by, say, a doctor to see if you've been abused, and so on?

Ultimately, can we be sure the prohibition is not on perceived male pleasure rather than child harm?

Twelve thousand children under the age of ten died of a starvation, or starvation related illness, since this time yesterday, according to UNICEF Why do we not care?

DavidRandom · 2014-12-23T16:42:18+00:00

That may be a stereotype that I hold that statistics would bear me wrong on, but I'm sure it's one that many people also hold.

Translation:

I discriminate people only based on my feelings despite what the actual truth is. I do this because I assume that others feel the same. And as long as I imagine other people are ignorant to the facts, I can get away with pushing my own biased agenda.

jaheiner · 2014-12-23T17:43:42+00:00

The irony of this is that if you created any kind of equivalent comparison where women or a minority were not trusted over men there'd be a fuckin call to arms.

Yet this, this is ok.

fortyfourmag · 2014-12-23T18:35:37+00:00

sexist bigoted narrow minded cunt.

Mahoghany85 · 2014-12-23T17:48:17+00:00

Yea because i know of no women that have emotional problems.

TheRealMouseRat · 2014-12-23T13:49:19+00:00

So men don't become preschool or elementary teachers because many women disregard facts and statistics, and discriminate against men? Well, good riddance.

theskepticalidealist · 2014-12-23T14:16:24+00:00

We are overtly paranoid about men around children being dangerous, and we are overtly cavalier about thinking women aren't.

iMADEthis2post · 2014-12-23T15:31:14+00:00

Going back to the 90's or early 2000s it was being noted that the victims of female paedophiles were suffering higher levels of psychological damage. I'm sure age of incident had something to do with it.

I suppose that at least this person is open to the fact that they are wrong on the matter, shame it seems like they don't care.

McFeely_Smackup · 2014-12-23T17:41:49+00:00

that may be a stereotype that I hold that statistics would bear me wrong on, but I'm sure its' one that many people hold

Out of context, this person sounds like a raging racist, homophobe, anti semite, or misogynist...take your pick.

Unenjoyed · 2014-12-23T18:16:41+00:00

I appreciate that the Director acknowledged her androgyny directly.

She's still a vapid dangerous ninny, but she's honest.

lordslag1 · 2014-12-23T18:49:00+00:00

"You do not automatically trust women around young children. The risk of a mistake is too high."

Yeah, I'd TOTALLY not suffer ANY repercussions for saying that and attaching it to my IRL name. NOSIREE!! Everything is equal dequal and a-okay in my society. NO double standards AT ALL.

Tarnsman4Life · 2014-12-23T18:56:49+00:00

My Ex's job was like this; female teachers in her Pre-K class could take both male and female students to the bathroom. Male teachers were not permitted to enter the bathroom alone with children of either gender.

DanDanDannn · 2014-12-23T20:21:26+00:00

Look, your "science" and "numbers" and "facts" may say I'm wrong, but a bunch of morons agree with me, therefore I must be right.

debrad1207 · 2014-12-23T21:15:34+00:00

I agree, young children are dangerous. I wouldn't trust any human, animal, or object around them.

well-ok-then · 2014-12-23T11:55:48+00:00

She's probably right. The risk to her -as the owner- of a mistake is too high. If 25% of her female teachers are abusive, does the school go out of business? If she hires a male who anyone even perceives as kind of creepy, how fast do parents pull their kids out?

logrusmage · 2014-12-23T18:06:49+00:00

"My opinion is not backed up by data, and is in fact contradicted by data, but that's ok because a lot of other people also have this opinion."

...lolwat. Very disappointing for a Montessori director. Maria Montessori would be appalled.

co_radio · 2014-12-23T18:39:41+00:00

This should be posted in /r/WTF

highxfive · 2014-12-24T07:03:04+00:00

As an educator, I face this dilemma each and every time I step into the classroom. I have absolutely no intention on harming those students in any possible way, yet I'm automatically made uncomfortable when I work with the female students, especially. Teachers keep a closer eye on me when I work with students of the opposite sex. It's fucking bullshit. I'm there to teach them, not fuck them.

I truly worry about those with that sort of concern on their conscience. What is going on in their head to make them think that people want to sexually abuse a child? They are the one's envisioning this sick shit, yet here I am, happy as a clam, teaching students and helping them build themselves and progress into adulthood, fuck me, right?

No one will ever confront me about this and I know this. I will constantly have a watchful eye over me for the duration of my career simply because I'm a male. It doesn't matter how long I'm employed with the schools because one day, I may become a risk. It doesn't matter that I walk into the school each and every fucking day and greet students and faculty politely and respectfully. It doesn't matter that I work with certain children who have already faced a sexual abuse problem at home and I help them work through this time and aid them in recovery. No, it doesn't fucking matter that I am a humane and caring individual because I am a male and I will always be a risk and a threat.

PatriarchyDrone · 2014-12-23T14:53:10+00:00

At the preschool level, every adult is responsible for dealing with [...] physical contact with children [...] in discipline

Are they... hitting their students, or am I misinterpreting that?

davidd00 · 2014-12-23T15:22:32+00:00

Reminds me of

I'm not racist, black people just commit more crimes! Look at the numbers!

pizzaISpizza · 2014-12-23T17:30:53+00:00

No worries. I'm sure the feminists are working diligently to eliminate these gender stereotypes. I looked, but can't find it. Can someone link me to the Jezebel story?

scemcee · 2014-12-23T20:16:04+00:00

Time to just start countering with our own hysteria.

At this point, I'm telling all my friends 'never leave your kids around a woman you don't know. Women kill children all the time."

The_Def_Of_Is_Is · 2014-12-24T07:43:40+00:00

My favorite part is how she declared her opinion of safety could not be swayed by facts, and everyone should just accept that. It's always the same with these people, perception of safety is more valuable than evidence of safety.

preventDefault · 2014-12-23T16:33:42+00:00

Get 'em!

Sharkictus · 2014-12-23T17:19:31+00:00

You really shouldn't automatically trust anyone but we do simple to keep sane and save time...

Horizal · 2014-12-23T18:18:14+00:00

I am actually seething.

PFKMan23 · 2014-12-23T20:36:39+00:00

Even in the era of equal rights (or the push for it anyway) you'll have obstacles like this. How sad.

Ludus22 · 2014-12-23T20:59:05+00:00

And that's feminism in a nutshell, guys.

ThePigmanAgain · 2014-12-23T21:33:04+00:00

Really, you shouldn't automatically trust anyone around young children. After all, statistically speaking, men are more likely to molest them and women are more likely to drop them down a drain!

DSrupt · 2014-12-23T22:30:51+00:00

Link to ther Quora profile : https://www.quora.com/Tracy-Crawford

How the fuck did she become a top writer!!!

IAMNOTACANOPENER · 2014-12-23T23:06:22+00:00

"I may be violently wrong but a lot of other people are too so that makes it OK."

evencorey · 2014-12-23T23:26:18+00:00

I got molested by a female teacher during preschool. This pisses me off.

Afrosammy · 2014-12-23T23:29:49+00:00

This mentality is the exact reaon I stay the fuck away from people's kids. Family. Friend. Don't care. I don't want to be anywhere need your kids.

uberpower · 2014-12-23T23:57:23+00:00

I attended a Montessori in the early 80's where a male teacher who loved to hug students was outed as gay and had to leave the school.

AFAIK he never hurt anyone, and the kids were sad. He was a favorite teacher.

binrobinro · 2014-12-24T00:00:31+00:00

http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/39783/

Dickbag69 · 2014-12-24T00:16:57+00:00

Do not trust women around anything mechanical. The risk is just too high.

Also, aren't women far more likely to be a child abuser as shown by statistics?

germaneuser · 2014-12-24T00:34:55+00:00

"That may be a stereotype [that displays my abhorrent bigotry], but I'm sure [many people are bigots just like me]."

FTFY

therealmasculistman · 2014-12-24T04:38:52+00:00

Fuck these cunts. I know of a guy that was raped by women when he was a child. But women who do this are invisible to cunts like this.

beetle717 · 2014-12-23T11:11:52+00:00

Of course this is disgusting but I'm curious now. Can anyone help me out with the relevant statistics v

thatguyp2 · 2014-12-23T16:11:48+00:00

That may be a stereotype that I hold that statistics would bear me wrong on

I'll have to turn to Poe's Law for this.

DetaxMRA · 2014-12-23T22:19:31+00:00

I think the scary part is that they're supporting this with the belief that many others also carry this opinion. We need people to see that, as simple of a notion as it is, men are just fine around children.

DSrupt · 2014-12-23T22:26:04+00:00

Link to the question please?

gsettle · 2014-12-23T22:27:02+00:00

"Right Minded" discrimination! Parents are dangerous!

fuckinhell · 2014-12-23T23:47:04+00:00

"I may be wrong and statistics may prove it but I prefer to be ignorant."

Nomenimion · 2014-12-24T04:55:24+00:00

The risk of a mistake is practically non-existent.

circuitology · 2014-12-24T13:11:30+00:00

Lol.

"I may be wrong but I don't care anyway"

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2014-12-24T17:33:00+00:00

I feel the same way about muslims and airplanes. Or blacks and other peoples property.

I mean sure they're probably ok. But why risk it? Stereotypes exist to keep us safe.

414RequestURITooLong · 2014-12-23T19:27:19+00:00

I'm all for men's rights but if I had a kid I wouldn't leave them with a male preschool teacher. I wouldn't let a female mechanic do any significant work on my car either. I'm not a sexist. I'm a realist.

Title	"You do not automatically trust men around young children. The risk of a mistake is too high."
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Date	December 23, 2014 9:02 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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