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It's frustrating because people don't want to understand. It isn't that they can't. People feel like they are losing something or conceding if they are forced to accept it.

I was at a pub with a few friends, my sister and her then bf. My sister had a biiiiiiiig mood swing and got angry at me and her bf. We were trying to stack beer mats into a pyramid like you do with playing cards. She kept knocking it down when we got so high. It all seemed in good fun.

After the third or fourth time this happened he picked up the beer mats and dumped them in her lap playfully. She responded by punching him hard in the side of the head.

Literally nobody else that was with us responded even though everybody saw. It clearly hurt him because he went quiet after that for the rest of the night.

Had it been the other way around everyone would have been in uproar and we would all have probably been asked to leave the premises. Even if he had hit her back people would have freaked out.

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For the longest time I didn’t realize I wasn’t succeeding in online dating because my demeanor was so cold that I pretty much came across as I didn’t like anyone I was dating. Even after I noticed, it was very hard to change immediately. I am also someone that honestly wouldn’t like anyone in the first few dates just because I needed time to warm up to people. But change do happen, and you figure out different ways around it or communicate in a way that works for you.

You might be surprised what a few years of growing up can do. And also confidence in career can carry over and just help you grow in general. You’re a guy so you have even more time to grow and figure yourself out. Relax, get yourself financially stable and figure out what you want, what you don’t want, and why. Enjoy your life in the meantime.

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Anecdotal evidence is a factual claim relying only on personal observation, collected in a casual or non-systematic manner. The term is sometimes used in a legal context to describe certain kinds of testimony which are uncorroborated by objective, independent evidence such as notarized documentation, photographs, audio-visual recordings, etc.

When used in advertising or promotion of a product, service, or idea, anecdotal reports are often called a testimonial, which are highly regulated[1] in some jurisdictions.

When compared to other types of evidence, anecdotal evidence is generally regarded as limited in value due to a number of potential weaknesses, but may be considered within the scope of scientific method as some anecdotal evidence can be both empirical and verifiable, e.g. in the use of case studies in medicine. Other anecdotal evidence, however, does not qualify as scientific evidence, because its nature prevents it from being investigated by the scientific method. Where only one or a few anecdotes are presented, there is a larger chance that they may be unreliable due to cherry-picked or otherwise non-representative samples of typical cases.[2][3] Similarly, psychologists have found that due to cognitive bias people are more likely to remember notable or unusual examples rather than typical examples.[4] Thus, even when accurate, anecdotal evidence is not necessarily representative of a typical experience. Accurate determination of whether an anecdote is typical requires statistical evidence.[5] Misuse of anecdotal evidence in the form of argument from anecdote is an informal fallacy[6] and is sometimes referred to as the "person who" fallacy ("I know a person who..."; "I know of a case where..." etc.) which places undue weight on experiences of close peers which may not be typical.

In all forms of anecdotal evidence its reliability by objective independent assessment may be in doubt. This is a consequence of the informal way the information is gathered, documented, presented, or any combination of the three. The term is often used to describe evidence for which there is an absence of documentation, leaving verification dependent on the credibility of the party presenting the evidence

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Depends on what she's saying no to.

The last time this topic came up on PPD women here were saying nothing is cheating if she doesn't intend to have sex. They said grinding with guys in a club is fine as long as they don't have sex after it.

Is she saying no to dancing and grinding? Or just the part at the end when he tries to make a move on her?

If she's going out and suggestively dancing with guys but ultimately not kissing them or doing anything else then it isn't explicitly cheating. But it's still a massive betrayal of trust.

You can't actually stop your gf from going clubbing because at the end of the day she is going to do whatever she wants to do.

But if she is doing anything there that she wouldn't do if her boyfriend was with her then there's a problem there. Even if she ends up rebuffing the guys at the end.

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These two things aren’t remotely comparable. One is a TikTok assertion about a belief of relationships and the other is a book recommendation?

Maybe I’m not seeing it, connect the dots for me.

EDIT: from Google…

Valerie Solanas and her SCUM manifesto feminist?

Let’s see.

Valerie Jean Solanas was an American radical feminist known for the SCUM Manifesto, which she self-published in 1967, and for her attempt to murder artist Andy Warhol in 1968. Wikipedia

Born: 9 April 1936, Ventnor City, New Jersey, United States

Died: 25 April 1988, San Francisco, California, United States

Movement: Radical feminism

Criminal charge(s): Attempted murder, assault, and illegal possession of a gun, plead to reckless assault with intent to harm

Seems a distinction is made with “Radical feminism”. What is “Radical feminism”?

“Radical feminism” is a perspective within feminism that calls for a radical re-ordering of society in which male supremacy is eliminated in all social and economic contexts,

So while you’re technically correct. Calling the TikTok “feminist women” representation is disingenuous when better descriptive terms exist.

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Ehhh I think that's a little unfair. Human beings are if anything a very predictable species. Predictable = easy to manipulate.

I think what you attribute to being mentally ill, I would be more likely to attribute to being brainwashed with ideology from a young age.

When TV, movies, your favourite artists/bands, the news, Hollywood etc are all screaming at you day in day out that X good, Y bad. You are probably going to grow up with a loathing hatred for Y and an unshakeable belief that X is all that is good in the world.

It takes a lot of introspection and strength of character to pull yourself away from all of that. It's much easier to be a part of the crowd. As an NPC you don't have to think for yourself or question why you believe the things you do. You just do what you're told and there's a freedom in that.

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But all these don't explain why you are sexually attracted to them.

how does it not explain it? Size=power, it's a simple concept.

You just are because that how you evolved.

sure, but I'm not asking for a evolutionary explanation, I'm asking for a psychological explanation. And, keep in mind, these evolutionary explanation imply a basis in scientific studies so you would need those to make the claim. I sound like a broken record right now.

It's why I would pay more for a private toilet vs a public one. A new bike vs a used one. A new sock vs a cum crusted one.

public toilet has germs and stains, a used bike has worse chains, gears, and brakes, a cum crusted sock has a hard texture and a weird color and smell.

We can explain why all these used things are less desirable.

A woman who has a lot of sex with many people is physically the same as a woman who doesn't have a lot of sex with different people. If you line up women, you couldn't guess their n count just by looking at their body. If you line up used bikes vs new bikes, you can tell which are which just by looking at the bodies.

So it's a psychological problem, while you're giving physical comparisons. Which is why I'm asking for a psychological analysis. The truth is, you don't want to answer the question which is fine but then i don't know why you chose to reply.

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how does it not explain it? Size=power, it's a simple concept.

But WHY are you sexually attracted to power? Men aren't, why are you?

And, keep in mind, these evolutionary explanation imply a basis in scientific studies so you would need those to make the claim. I sound like a broken record right now.

You can find many of them on google. Just type paternity uncertainty. Or just look how men have been punishing female promiscuity since the dawn of time and across cultures

A woman who has a lot of sex with many people is physically the same as a woman who doesn't have a lot of sex with different people.

Just because you can't visually see any difference doesn't mean they aren't there. Increased stds and whole host of psychological baggage for one. Increased risk for divorce and infidelity on the other. She is just as damaged as the cum sock, it just isn't as apparent.which is one of the reasons we evolved to not want to invest in public property.

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But the disgust I don't get.

what is this emotion? it is an emotional response of revulsion or rejection towards something disgusting. This revolting feeling can be triggered by any sense - taste, smell or vision.

We evolved to avoid danger. Disgust tells you to avoid the source. Let us take some examples.

spiders - arachnophobia, cockroaches, rats stuff that is dirty, spreads diseases.

blood, injury, injection, gore, mutilation, contagious disease signs of infection - puss, warts, vomit.

Now your question,

Sluts - men who are sensitive to paternity fraud passed down genes. Evolved to avoid promiscious women, avoid getting STDs, take care of someone else's babies, fight someone else over her.

Prostitution - women feel disgusted by men who pay for sex. It signals low status I think? what all makes you disgusted by a man? when he simps? grovels? is bullied and is shown to be spineless coward? lacking integrity?

think of examples of disgust and you will understand. Can you psychoanalyse your disgust for insects?

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Sluts - men who are sensitive to paternity fraud passed down genes. Evolved to avoid promiscious women, avoid getting STDs, take care of someone else's babies, fight someone else over her.

I ask myself if this is necessarily true. What about the fact that man who fuck a lot of sluts make a lot of babies too? Almost all prostitutes have many children. The entire male strategy is "fuck as many females as possible" and sluts are the most receptive women.

what all makes you disgusted by a man?

if he's fat, sickly, dirty, or smelly.

I can psychoanalysize that these things are physically revulsive (like smells) and disease-ridden. They imply low class, yes, and also irresponsibility.

So i understand in psychoanalysis of sluts are gross because diseases, irresponsibility, and low class. Thanks for being the ony one to actually answer my question lol

Can you psychoanalyse your disgust for insects?

lol wrong crowd. I have 100+ pet cockroaches, i love insects

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What about the fact that man who fuck a lot of sluts make a lot of babies too?

those men who fuck a lot "won" in evolutionary terms, they passed down tons of genes. But then they did not aim for sluts, sluts were rare. Social ostracization was painful and extreme. I mean this same response does not seem to be present in women for male sluts, not as frequently or in the same magnitude. Maybe because of high status men having concubines and supporting multiple families?

If Men who married women who were sluts raised kids which did not have their genes, who cheated on them, who brought kids from previous relationships (contraceptives is quite recent), miscarriage, pregnancy was dangerous and took a toll on the women's body.

Men with disgust sensitivity started to dominate the gene pool, human females don't have honest signals of ovulation. They have concealed ovulation. It is not like men mate guard. I think the evidence points to this being a good explanation.

But again, its not like women told this stuff even back in the day. It is reputation that matters. Gossip spread fast. I think men also have a fear of losing status by being associated with a women with such a past. It is like getting cuckolded.

The entire male strategy is "fuck as many females as possible" and sluts are the most receptive women.

I think the disgust is towards serious commitment. Like it is not like physical revulsion. It is just hard to take her seriously like a life partner. Physically she can still be attractive and men seem to be capable of hate fucking, and arousal has a low bar.

I am talking about respect, building a family, being romantic. The disgust gets in the way of that.

I don't think prostitutes used to have that many babies. They were careful, they have too many clients. It is not just a matter of popping out a baby, it also matters the care it recieves. The genes are not just narrow minded to jump one generation. The genes that wins needs to iteratively play this game and win every generation. This baby needs nutrients, care, oppurtunity. Babies from stable unions had status, access to resources.

Why was the word bastard a curse? Having kids outside wedlock meant leaving that kid to a pathetic existence. Look at the rituals where parents are involved in the marriage.

Sex for pleasure sure. But having a kid means mixing genes. You need to on some level respect them and or consider them to be on your level. I think the disgust response is real.

But it might be overstated by TRP. It can be overcome by not talking about, avoid the topic. It might be less powerful in some people like how you don't mind creepy crawlers.

The disgust response is just one of many reasons, and other reasons might be misinterpreted as disgust.

They imply low class, yes, and also irresponsibility.

yep low class, a lack of elegance, low status. The circumstances that forced her, her decision. Maybe her upbringing, mental issues, lack of impulse control, she is engaging in a risky lifestyle by being a slut.

It is irresponsible (think about the past... before the access to cheap contraceptives, better policing, ways to collect evidence, before violence became so rare), so in the context of our past. It makes sense why such norms and biological responses evolved. That does mean these things are morally right and useful in modern environments. - Naturalistic fallacy.

Thanks for being the ony one to actually answer my question lol

you are welcome.

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to present in other mammals.

every animal deals with this tension their own way.

1) In stick insects, the strategy is not to let go of the female for several months after mating with her. The male stays clamped onto the female's back, and since males are usually smaller, the female can still move around and get food in this predicament. She just can't get a new mate.

2) If a male honeybee mates with the queen, it's also in his evolutionary interest not to let her mate with another male. If he can keep subsequent males away, he hits the reproductive jackpot. But it's in the queen's best interest to mate with another male if one comes along. The males are not in a position to shame the queen by calling her a slut. So instead, male honeybees have a detachable penis that gets stuck in the female. What's left of the lucky male explodes. Once you've mated with the queen there's not much more to live for.

in humans we have evolved language, intricate intersubjective realities and shaming is our own way of enforcing monogamy and norms to prevent bastard kids. Other animals don't have our social structure so they don't slut shame. But this same gender wars happen if you study every other species.

Both genders are looking our for their best interest.

If you look at what primatologists who study langur societies found - the structure was polygynous, in that they are composed of multifemale, single-male groups. Darwin’s theory of sexual selection held that these females should choose the most impressive male in their troop to ensure the hereditary success of their offspring. But here was clear evidence that females would actively engage in “adulterous solicitations” with males from other societies. As Hrdy revealed to a scandalized scientific community, the genetic benefits that came from seeking extra-pair matings—while maintaining the support of an existing partner—meant that evolution could favor females who choose to cheat.

If you read about Extra-pair copulation EPC in the animal kingdom has mostly been studied in birds and mammals. You will find monogamy is mostly social and sexually the incentive is to cheat.

So my point is all this shows that men had to develop mechanism to prevent women from cheating. Disgust response, shaming, social ostracisation seems to have been based on this.

I don't think you can fully decouple the past like that. The correlations are not there for no reasons. It is not a single sexual encounter 5 years ago that causes people to be labelled a slut. A slut tag is given to women who are "easy", they provide access to their bodies easily and thus to many men. They are cheap. This means that the threshold to cheat is lower.

I also think the concept of time itself is not that strong, when you hear about her sexual history and your imagination plays it out in your head then it feels like it happened right now. The primal brain is not smart enough to be logical and reasonable about how it was something that happened long ago and now this person is different.

There was a museum in San Francisco where they filled drinking water into a toiler and pumped it up to us to drink. It was show to us how the water was perfectly clean and the water fountain while it looked like a toilet was totally clean, never used for defecation. But logic does not help and disgust respond prevented most people from using that water fountain proving the point that reason does not help here.

Older environmental adaptations are biological and more recent ones are cultural. That is the only difference.

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my husband is whipped cream and we have permanent pole mounted to the ceiling 😉

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Ironically, posting this for everyone to see is pickme behavior.

https://twitter.com/yungbernasty/status/1520201786275078144

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I agree. But I don’t see the need to take a picture and post it online.

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I would pay extra. Some greasy dude who smells like Axe in a cheap button down isn’t providing me any validation lol. Or drinks, I’ve never accepted or wanted drinks from strangers.

Keep making up your boogeymen so you can insult. Never actually address the issue at hand. "I will never do it" doesnt mean shit in the grand scheme of things or are you speaking for most women now? Be here pretending women dont take drinks from strangers. There is a reason those clubs dont exist in real life

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Which part of the US? I’m in an interracial marriage and this has never been an issue, but we’ve also lived in pretty diverse areas

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I've noticed that there's a lot of bad discussion about the role of dopamine here lately. Dopamine release happens during seeking to encourage the seeking behavior, it's not a reward itself.

I'm not sure if the nofaps have drifted to even more delusional or if it's the new antiporn people who have that awful website that are fucking this all up. I haven't been on the nofap subreddit in close to a decade but they used to at least understand this.

For example studies of gambling addicts (true in other addicts) show dopamine release happens in anticipation of the game and during it. After winning or losing dopamine fuels further gambling. Dopamine is about encouraging the seeking behavior that might lead to the reward.

Discussion here seems to make it sound like sex or porn is about wanting to access dopamine. But that's just not how it works. The buzz you feel while chasing the reward is the dopamine. It's a subtle difference but it's a fundamental difference.

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Do both by masturbating in public!

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I think alot of men just crave the intimacy and validation they receive from casual sex and try to hamster that into a necessity.

Because we don't get much if any validation elsewhere and we have a way higher sex drive. I felt better from a self a self validation perspective and from an outside validation perspective from having a girlfriend and getting laid than when I graduated university or stopped being poor. I felt more validated getting touched on a regular basis by someone that cared about me than when I stopped having to live off ramen or when I hit the six figure mark. It isn't just my issue either look at how people judge you for it when I graduated university the collective response was big deal nobody cares but if I don't bring a girlfriend to the Christmas gathering with my family they think I am weird. You can't refuse to validate men basically anywhere else and then wonder why they develop a complex about something they also have a massive urge for that is also very validating.

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I think implying that it’s a basic human necessity opens up a door for arguing that sex/intimacy is a resource which can be provided to those in “need.”

We have government assistance programs for most basic human needs (food, shelter, medical care, foster homes), so implying that it’s a need in the traditional sense can open up some of the incel-based “equal distribution of pussy” arguments.

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As I suspected. Don't worry it wasn't a gotcha. But it really is almost impossible to relate to the soul crushing loneliness a lot of single romantically starved men feel. Unless you either are one or have really close friends who are.

"Single" for men and "single" for women don't even remotely mean the same thing in most cases.

Single for a man usually means total and complete loneliness, romantically speaking. He's generally not only not having sex, but also receives zero attention from women at all. Women who are single generally can still get regular sex, validation and companionship from men at the drop of the hat. And more often than not if they aren't getting any of those things it's because they are choosing not to, not because they can't.

Don't get me wrong, we still agree that it isn't a need, but telling men that they just need a wank when their loneliness is killing them mentally is like telling a homeless person they just need a better blanket or something.

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Anyone else nicer to less attractive women? I don't want some attractive girl with an ego thinking I'm hitting on her by being friendly, so I am usually very cold/blunt to attractive women, but to unattractive ones I'm a lot nicer. I figure they are less likely to assume I'm hitting on them and even if they do, are less likely to be upset about it.

I don't really care about being rude to attractive women because they get enough positive attention anyway.

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Sounds like you have baggage to work through if you entirely hate an entire demographic to the point of discriminating behavior.

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If you're attractive, you don't need it

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If you're pretty, you don't need it

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It's not just this issue.

It's everything else. It's domestic abuse. It's support in schools and everything else. It's giving the same level of empathy to men who have issues as we do to women.

Women seem content to not care or "let people make their own choices" when it doesn't impact them.

50/50 and equality is a clear vision. It's about making sex and gender not important and reducing the impact of your sex on how life turns out for you.

That's a simple philosophy that people can in theory agree upon.

But once you start deviating from that vision and start saying things like "oh, but we need to be given this thing in exchange for that thing". Then you effectively break the basis for any agreements you might have. You're now arguing for the version of equality that exists inside your own head. Which is different to everyone else's. So now we're arguing what exactly "equal but different" looks like.

How expensive a date do men need to pay for to make up for some sexual assault? That's just impossible.

I don't think you're actually as committed to gender equality as you make out. I don't actually believe you when you say you're opposed to gender roles.

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Kind of, but not quite.

Like "equal but different" is a perfectly reasonable position. There are strong arguments for it. There is asymmetry between the sexes. Women obviously have to carry children and men don't as an example.

The problem is that it's really hard to argue for anything when it comes to "equal but different"

With 50/50 and gender equality as a goal you can look at each topic, say "oh here men/women have it worse" and then rectify or distort society in some way to make things "more fair". There's some disagreement over who has it worse but at least you're united on the same goal.

But with "equal but different" you can't really do that. You end up squabbling over what trades need to made for what other thing. I'm not convinced anything you could argue would be any better than the market just trying to find some equilibrium.

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Which is why you may as well let the market decide. Men should stop complaining to women about fairness and just vote for politicians who will help boys in schools. Or give money to education charities for men. Everyone focuses on themselves and their own. There are no grounds to appeal to women on. If that makes sense?

Unfortunately that isn't possible because women control politicians and the government so you will be forced by gunpoint to do things like pay taxes to pay for single mothers or they will seize your house because you refused to pay property taxes that support the local schools which discriminate against boys. Women already controlling it with men having no in group bias like women have for women means nothing will change. Even when guys refuse to participate in the system that is against them society and especially women blame them and attack them such as guys who are working less hours at lesser paying jobs. I have thought over this subject long enough that I know it is an unwinnable battle so I plan to give up citizenship and leave the country just so my retirement money and potential taxes is not supporting women and a society who discriminated against me, but that isn't a realistic option for most people.

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But people don't want to opt out. People want relationships.

I think this is what I find frustrating. It's that we often ignore that or pretend that's a silly thing to want.

We're supportive and tell people they can be what they want to be and that makes us feel good. But when those people do exactly that, try to date and then end up failing we shrug our shoulders and say "well ... not everybody needs to date".

That's not kind. That's not caring. We haven't helped that person. We've just made ourselves feel better about ourselves.

It clear people want to date. That desire to date effectively creates gender roles and limits on gender expression whether we like it or not.

The only people truly free or close to free are homosexuals and bisexuals. It's clear that straight people are much more limited. I don't know if we can change that.

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You can't give "similar" enough training whilst literally eliminating extra communication. Check-ins, active participation, and going above and beyond is part of being a decent teacher/mentor. I'm 100% sure you do it with the guys.

I'm running my team I like to run a loose and fun environment while getting the job done, I'm not fucking my money up because some chick wants to play the "I didn't feel comfortable" card lol

You just admitted it right here. That you much prefer an environment that's loose and fun, but women can't be a part of it. Then you expect me to believe you don't limit women's opportunities because of this? I hope you don't, I really do, but I know plenty of men who stay "loose and fun" in literally a way that pushes out women from equal work. It's a red flag for me now after what I've seen.

You seem to be a lawyer. These groups have plenty of witnesses. Your "talk to women as little as possible' advice doesn't apply with witnesses? Or does it?

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Not necessarily with stonewalling, but a lot of women act in ways that might seem like interest to men with limited social skills or lack of positive interactions in their lives.

In recent times, I’ve had trouble determining whether or not some of my female friends are into me because some of them will cross boundaries that others won’t (certain kinds of physical touch, talking about sex frequently, talking about my body in uncomfortable ways, etc), and sometimes this turns out to be genuine interest that they are uncomfortable with expressing fully and sometimes they are just bored.

Conversely, it can be easy to miss indicators of interest when you’re not looking for them. Women often give “hints” that they are interested that fly over the heads of men.

Men often don’t consciously communicate with as much subtext as women do, so it can be hard to read what someone is really feeling when they express themselves differently than you do

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Where is the deception here?

1- Mmmm

There is NOT enough makeup in the world to turn an average woman into a supermodel.

2 - Mmmm

She is an average without makeup and she looks wild with makeup. Where she goes?

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If you are attractive, you are attractive. No tricks.

4 - Mmmm

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In the United States, there were 3.6 million babies born last year. 300k babies being born to the wrong dad sounds really sad.

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That's sad :(

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Hope he’s out looksmaxxing and getting laid

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He's not temp banned. Usually when I message him, he answers back the same day, but this time he hasn't so it's probably life-related things. Hopefully he's okay.

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The makeup argument isn’t projection when you see firsthand how it affects the self image of your female friends. Instead of being this fun thing that’s supposed to boost your confidence, it oftentimes will instead become a requirement to have on to cover up an insecurity.

IMO it’s less about cheating and more about the fact that women hold the effort they put into makeup as some kind of high ground over men (which, admittedly, most men should put more effort into their appearance, just not makeup).

Makeup can enhance your looks often at the cost of your self-image without it, or it can just make you look stupid because you’ve overdone it or you don’t have the skill to make it look natural. In the case where neither of this occurs and a woman has both skill with makeup and a healthy self-esteem without it, I don’t give a fuck

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It's a bit of a vicious cycle perpetuated by men and women. The idea of makeup is meant to embellish features, reduce flaws, and display signs of youthfulness. Men and society want women to look youthful and put together, so it drives this desire for women to want to wear makeup. In places like metropolitan areas of Japan, it can be "embarrassing" for you to NOT wear makeup.

If you have baggage about makeup, ideally you prefer a woman who wears little to no makeup?

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I think a lot of dudes don’t realize the crazy transformations you see on TikTok/Instagram would actually look really weird irl. It’s not hard to spot a woman with heavy makeup when you see them in person.

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There was one menacing guy that kept showing up on my daily walks and staring at me. No one knew him. I waved and said hi, like you do with all of your neighbors, but he only stared. Showed up repeatedly to only stare. It was getting super creepy. He didn't live there. One day it made me really nervous because we're completely alone on the street and he's standing there staring and not moving. He starts walking towards us and is still staring with the angry face. She didn't lunge, but she stood her ground and told him to back the hell up with a vicious snarl and growling. She didn't pull on her leash at all to try to get closer. She was completely in control of her anger. He took off and never came back, which was super odd considering he had been showing up for weeks. I still have no idea what he was doing on my block, but I am grateful for my girl. With everyone else she has a mental breakdown of whining if she isn't allowed to go and say hello to them. She stays calm with kids because she remembers being removed away from them as a puppy if she was too excitable.

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I hav a brindle AmStaff who is also the best dog in the world. She was trained as a therapy dog. She’s an old lady now (11 yrs) but this is one of my favorite pictures of her.

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Guy starts off as a weird, probably rightfully friendless loser.

That's a BIG assumption. All he said was that he "liked his alone time" and that his roommates "got him to go out and meet people". That just means he was an introvert, not that he was a "weird friendless loser".

He then eventually autistically reads into porn his roommate makes as if she's actually suggesting she wants to fuck him even though she's never given any indication whatsoever that that was the case before.

I'm just going to copy-paste the comment I already made:

"I feel like the fact that she CHOSE to make that the theme of her content makes his assumption fairly reasonable. If she were an adult film star who was cast in a video with a roommate-with-benefits storyline, sure, then it would be ridiculous to assume that she wanted to fuck him because of that. But she cast HERSELF in this storyline when she could have chosen any other angle, and it wasn't even one post, it was a running theme. Not only that, but she was using his space as a prop for her actual content.

Idk, if I had an OnlyFans or something similar, I wouldn't make "I want to fuck my roommate" the theme of my content if I actually had one male roommate who I had no desire to fuck."

This chick and all her friends are so creeped out by this guy that they all feel they need get him out of house because they actually seem to think, probably with good reason, that he might all out rape her.

I feel like you're reading this situation as non-charitably as possible. They were friends, they were hanging out together, and were flirting (at least according to OP). He didn't just barge into her room and ask to fuck out of nowhere. I feel like if he were actually the lecherous creep you're imagining him as, she wouldn't have been friends with him for 2 years and she sure as shit wouldn't have made wanting to fuck him the theme of her content.

Aren't you a redpiller? Why are you choosing to defend a woman who clearly overreacted and tried to make her roommate leave his own home for no good reason? This was her friend for 2 years, not some random guy at a bar or someone she went on one date with. To immediately leap to "if I turn him down he might rape me" is a huge reach, unless OP isn't being honest or is leaving stuff out.

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OnlyFans is all about marketing a fantasy to lonely men. Lonely men with roommates. Lonely men who wish they had a hot female roommate who wanted to fuck them. I feel like any guy with a functioning brain would realize there was nothing more to it than that when she chose to fuck another guy posing as her roommate instead of her actual roommate who she presumably spends a lot of time alone in a house with. She used his space because it probably looks like a guy's room and helps her further sell the fantasy.

Also she may not have really cast herself in that role so much, it may have been requested by some of her followers. I think that's a big part of OF, you find out their fantasies and give the customers what they want.

I'm just calling things as I see them. RP is not a religion for me, just something I identify with to some extent. I can still see things from a woman's POV. I've flirted with just about every female friend I've ever had, a couple of them even physically. I assure you they none of them wanted to fuck me. Flirting is not an IOI, it's just harmless fun. That's how women see it, but women often naively think their male friends share the same view on it. Most don't.

My judgement of him as a general creep mostly comes from the fact that her friend also seems to think it's realistic he might force himself on her. If the two of them came to that conclusion, there's probably a good reason for it.

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I feel like any guy with a functioning brain would realize there was nothing more to it than that when she chose to fuck another guy posing as her roommate instead of her actual roommate who she presumably spends a lot of time alone in a house with.

I looked again and I didn't see anything in the post about her pretending to her followers that the stranger was her roommate. There was no indication that she was selling that post as part of the "roommate theme". Nothing was said about the caption of that post at all. Just that she fucked another dude in his bed. Which is such a massive boundary violation that it makes her the asshole in this story even in isolation- my "best friend" did that to his roommate and it was disgusting, like he was getting off on the fact that he was violating boundaries (he seemed to think he was "punishing" the roommate for "being homophobic", i.e. being uncomfortable when he arrived in his room to see strange dudes sleeping there). That's one of the reasons I think she may have NPD or HPD, in which case the massive overreaction and automatically playing the victim card makes sense.

Also she may not have really cast herself in that role so much, it may have been requested by some of her followers.

She still wrote, produced, and starred in the content. That's WAY different from acting out a script that someone else hands you. You may be right that she was just selling a fantasy, but I'm talking about whether it was a reasonable assumption on his part. I'm a writer, and if I had one single heterosexual male roommate and he, for any reason, stumbled upon an erotic story of mine about me fucking my roommate... unless there was indication that the story was written before we were roommates, I would find it totally understandable for him to think that it was my fantasy about him, even if I was selling these stories to an audience. Now, is that implied consent? Of course not. But OP didn't start touching her and give the "I know you want it" defense. He asked, in a situation that sounds like it made sense to ask. If in the above scenario, I was later drinking and flirting with my male roommate and he started coming onto me, and it came up that he had read my story.... I would be pissed depending on HOW he found the story (if he went snooping in my room and found it, obviously that would be a problem, but if it were a publically posted story on some erotica website that he just happened to find I couldn't be mad because I posted it for public consumption). What I DEFINITELY wouldn't do is lose my shit and try to kick him out of OUR house under the guise of fearing rape, especially if we had been friends for over 2 fucking years before then.

I've flirted with just about every female friend I've ever had, a couple of them even physically. I assure you they none of them wanted to fuck me. Flirting is not an IOI, it's just harmless fun. That's how women see it, but women often naively think their male friends share the same view on it. Most don't.

I... no. I don't even know what an IOI is, but women are not going around flirting (especially not physically) with guys we have zero interest in outside of being somehow paid to do so (not the case in that specific moment, as she wasn't filming or selling content, she was just talking to OP). The problem is that guys often interpret kindness/platonic interest as "flirting". Now, does flirting with a guy mean that I want his dick inside of me at that moment? No. But there's some sort of interest there. This entire setup is something that even my notoriously oblivious ass would NOT get into with a guy who I considered a creep, and I'm the kind of person who let a 26 year old man into my dorm room when I was 19 after multiple glasses of wine and wasn't sure that he wanted to fuck me.

My judgement of him as a general creep mostly comes from the fact that her friend also seems to think it's realistic he might force himself on her. If the two of them came to that conclusion, there's probably a good reason for it.

Don't you guys always say that "women are a hivemind"? In reality, friends are usually not going to criticize each other while one is actively upset for what appears to be a legitimate reason. The friend didn't see OP coming onto the roommate, and therefore only knows what the roommate, in visible distress, told her. If I were the friend in this situation, I would assume OP must have physically touched her or something similar. Even if I was aware of the actual situation and thought she was overreacting, I would be focused on trying to separate her from him (although I would have left with her, not tried to kick him out) and tell her that she was overreacting later. Pretty easy to come to an inaccurate conclusion about something you were not a witness to when you don't have the full story.

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I looked again and I didn't see anything in the post about her pretending to her followers that the stranger was her roommate. There was no indication that she was selling that post as part of the "roommate theme". Nothing was said about the caption of that post at all. Just that she fucked another dude in his bed.

As it turns out, you're right. Kinda just inferred that by mistake. Even still, she's fucking another dude in his bed when she could much more easily be fucking him in his bed. I still believe that should be enough to assume a lack of interest.

She still wrote, produced, and starred in the content. That's WAY different from acting out a script that someone else hands you. You may be right that she was just selling a fantasy, but I'm talking about whether it was a reasonable assumption on his part. I'm a writer, and if I had one single heterosexual male roommate and he, for any reason, stumbled upon an erotic story of mine about me fucking my roommate... unless there was indication that the story was written before we were roommates, I would find it totally understandable for him to think that it was my fantasy about him, even if I was selling these stories to an audience. Now, is that implied consent? Of course not. But OP didn't start touching her and give the "I know you want it" defense. He asked, in a situation that sounds like it made sense to ask. If in the above scenario, I was later drinking and flirting with my male roommate and he started coming onto me, and it came up that he had read my story.... I would be pissed depending on HOW he found the story (if he went snooping in my room and found it, obviously that would be a problem, but if it were a publically posted story on some erotica website that he just happened to find I couldn't be mad because I posted it for public consumption). What I DEFINITELY wouldn't do is lose my shit and try to kick him out of OUR house under the guise of fearing rape, especially if we had been friends for over 2 fucking years before then.

I'm not saying I don't believe you, but it's easy to say this when your emotions are removed from the equation and you're speaking from an objective perspective like this. I also think finding out your roommate has been watching you get fucked and play with yourself on video vs reading erotic text you wrote. It's a fundamentally much more vulnerable position.

I... no. I don't even know what an IOI is, but women are not going around flirting (especially not physically) with guys we have zero interest in outside of being somehow paid to do so (not the case in that specific moment, as she wasn't filming or selling content, she was just talking to OP). The problem is that guys often interpret kindness/platonic interest as "flirting". Now, does flirting with a guy mean that I want his dick inside of me at that moment? No. But there's some sort of interest there. This entire setup is something that even my notoriously oblivious ass would NOT get into with a guy who I considered a creep, and I'm the kind of person who let a 26 year old man into my dorm room when I was 19 and wasn't sure that he wanted to fuck me.

IOI stands for "indicator of interest." No, I'm not talking about simple kindness or platonic stuff. Women absolutely do go around flirting with men they have no sexual interest in. Did you know that the actual definition of "flirt" is "behave as though attracted to or trying to attract someone, but for amusement rather than with serious intentions." It's fundamentally not necessarily an indication a woman is actually interest.

I'll stick to my example of friends where there was actual physical flirtation because that's unmistakable. With one girl I tried to escalate with after she straddled me on my couch and she shut me down. Another girl had a huge ego and was bragging about how she could get any guy to want to fuck her. I told her I wouldn't just to knock her down a few pegs, so she liked to touch me and get close to try to change my mind so she could throw it back in my face. She was fun to banter with.

Don't you guys always say that "women are a hivemind"?

Are you saying they are?

In reality, friends are usually not going to criticize each other while one is actively upset for what appears to be a legitimate reason. The friend didn't see OP coming onto the roommate, and therefore only knows what the roommate, in visible distress, told her. If I were the friend in this situation, I would assume OP must have physically touched her or something similar. Even if I was aware of the actual situation and thought she was overreacting, I would be focused on trying to separate her from him (although I would have left with her, not tried to kick him out) and tell her that she was overreacting later.

That's your opinion, but I still think the friend gets creep vibes from him too.

Pretty easy to come to an inaccurate conclusion about something you were not a witness to when you don't have the full story.

Nice one. Respect.

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I feel like the fact that she CHOSE to make that the theme of her content makes his assumption fairly reasonable. If she were an adult film star who was cast in a video with a roommate-with-benefits storyline, sure, then it would be ridiculous to assume that she wanted to fuck him because of that. But she cast HERSELF in this storyline when she could have chosen any other angle, and it wasn't even one post, it was a running theme. Not only that, but she was using his space as a prop for her actual content.

Idk, if I had an OnlyFans or something similar, I wouldn't make "I want to fuck my roommate" the theme of my content if I actually had a male roommate who I had no desire to fuck. If it were totally hypothetical, maybe, but not if there was a specific person involved. It's like how the fantasy of fucking a professor ceased to be sexy when I was actually at college and especially when I was actually attending weekly office hours with a male professor who really (non-sexually) liked me. That idea couldn't have even been in my head without him being a part of it, and since I didn't want him to be part of it it wasn't in my head.

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I’m Master Splinter

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People lie to get their foot in the door all the time -- and not just in the dating world. There's a lot of prejudice against Hispanics -- and especially against Central Americans. I'd cut the guy some slack.

This kind of thing has been going on for generations. 150 years ago one branch of my family pretended to be English Protestants when they were really Irish Catholics. When I was a kid my mom would never tell anyone she was Puerto Rican. If someone asked what she was she's refuse to answer. People would assume she was Middle Eastern but this was preferable since pre-Iranian revolution, pre-Iraq wars, and pre-911 being Middle Eastern was exotic while being Puerto Rican was common and low class. Ironically, years later when she had a DNA profile done it turned out that she actually has a lot of North African ancestry (i.e. Moorish).

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Because he was telling me about life in his country and his stories didn’t add up. First he said one of his parents was born in Italy and he can’t speak Spanish. But when we went on the date he told me about both his parents life in Guatemala , no mention of Italian ancestry and he was correcting my Spanish that I’m trying to learn. I think it was because when we met, he was with his actual Italian friend (who went for my friend). He kept making weird comparisons about himself to his friend saying “oh I’m not at his level yet” because his Italian friend is a software engineer making 500K at Amazon. He presented his friend’s Range Rover as his own/drove it too which was weird but then picked me up in his actual Nissan. I mean I don’t care about that stuff and I think he realized that so that’s why he was comfortable opening up and being himself. But I don’t like the lying part

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[–]No_Consequence_44081 points 4 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

incels are the Ukrainian refugees of the dating world

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Incels are the socialist Vaush and Hassan Piker fans of the world. Complaining about how everybody needs to have their "fair share."

Note they are like their fans. Not Vaush and Hassan themselves. They would be like incels complaining about women and lack of sex while they were actually drowning in it.

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wtf are you talking about, bro

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Found the Vaush fan.

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Q4W: if prostitution were legal, how much should sex cost?

[–]rubisco-red1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

that's like asking how much a car should cost... depends if you're buying a Toyota Corolla or a Bugatti Chiron

[–]No_Consequence_44081 points 4 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

pick a type of car then, qualify your answer. i could give a detailed example, but then people are going to say they don't want to give a price for that one.

you pick what you're talking about, then give me a price. ok? i'm being very open and accommodating

[–]rubisco-red1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe something like...

homeless street whore, $50-100

normal whore $100-500

escort $500-1000

total classy babe $1000+

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I have a lot of opinions about this as I often would get impatient with men who just had “so how was your day? 🙂” type convos that never went anywhere, so I learned pretty quickly to just take the initiative to ask them out myself. I almost always asked for their number first, it’s important to get the conversation off the apps and then meet up ASAP before the convo fizzles out.

The best kind of guys on OLD actually paid attention to and took an interest in my interests and suggested dates related to those (and I would do vice versa). It showed intention, which made them stand out among the generic “wanna get coffee?” guys.

Sorry for focusing on OLD, but I think a lot of people are bad texters until they become familiar with how the other person likes to communicate. There’s always awkwardness adjusting to someone’s texting style, emoji use, how they make jokes/flirt/sarcasm (I think a lot of dudes get lost in this one, lol), etc. which is why meeting in person is so important.

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