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I just want to say, if this place hadn’t existed, I would probably want to kill myself as much as this guy does right now. He has no idea what the fuck is going on, and can’t snap all the pieces together.

Don’t ever forget or take for granted just how lucky you are to have been handed the map. All you have to do with that map is put it into action, you have zero excuses.

You’re not some 30 something year old confused bastard like most men out there, so NEVER, and I mean never feel sorry for yourself or play the victim. You have the game by the balls just by having found this place. All it takes is action from that point.

I didn’t link it because TRP usually removes the post whenever I try. But, here is the post copied line by line from relationship advice:

The post is titled: “Wife got drunk and had a meltdown in an Uber. She's been silent for 48 hours. Should I blink first?”

Here is the content:

On Saturday night my (37M) wife (33F), sister (32F) and my mother (59F) joined me for a Veterans Day-related event at a local hotel.

There my wife randomly ran into a former co-worker named John (30-something male), and they spent a good chunk of the evening catching up. He basically kept coming over to our table and kept saying how thrilled he was to see her. At one point she went to the ladies room with my sister, but ended up staying with him at another table. She was never really far from me, and I didn't think much of it, but I did notice she was drinking a lot more than usual, considering we rarely drink.

The event ended around midnight and most people had cleared out already, but her and John were still talking, at which point I came over and said "honey we have to go, our Uber is waiting".

As we walked to the car she made it clear she was not happy about me coming over and breaking up their conversation and called me a fucking asshole, which made me laugh out loud because she never talks like that, which in turn made her more mad.

We got in the car and I sat in the front, while my wife, sister, and mother sat in the back seat. As the driver started heading home, my wife rudely asked him where he was going. The driver said he was following the GPS, and she shouted at him saying "nooooo....I'm going to Norms. I'm hungry". Norms is a 24-hour Dennys-type restaurant that we've been to only once in recent years.

I apologized to the driver and asked him to keep following the GPS home, but she kept saying she was going to Norms. This behavior was completely out of character for my wife, who is a well-educated and very respectful woman. She had never caused a scene in public, and is always very friendly to our Uber drivers. My sister and mother sat there quietly, until my sister texted me "she wants to go to Norms because that's where John is going. I can see her phone and he's texting her right now".

After that I told my wife, who was getting louder and more obnoxious, that we could go to Norms for Sunday brunch in the morning, but that we needed to get home. From there things took a turn for the worse.

She started screaming something like "what am I going to do at home? Play around with your little dick? Your little dick does nothing for me. I should've fucked John when I had the chance. It's time I start fucking real men...".

Boom. My world fell apart right there in that stranger's car, with the three people I love the most in this world.

My sister and mother intervened by telling her to shut up, but she kept going, telling me how bad I was in bed and how I couldn't get her pregnant, along with a bunch of other outrageous things I can't even repeat because it hurts so much.

When we finally got home my sister and mother (who was crying) went inside the house, and I tried to negotiate my wife's exit from the vehicle.

After a few minutes I gave up and told the driver to take her wherever she wanted to go. At that point I was more concerned about my mother. About 30 minutes later I got the notification that the ride had ended. She wound up going to her parent's house.

That was over 48 hours ago and I haven't heard a peep from her. I haven't tried to contact her either. Her dad came over tonight to get her car and some clothes because she has to work tomorrow.

I told him exactly what happened. He said she's not talking at all. She just told them (her parents) that she would be at their house for a few days, so they thought that I was to blame for whatever happened.

I really don't know what to do. I'm still shaking of anger for what she did, and fear that my marriage might be over just like that, with no warning whatsoever.

For the record, it's not that I can't get her pregnant. She's the one who can't have children, but that has never been an issue in our relationship. We knew that when we got married.

And I do have a smaller than average penis, but she's known that since before we started dating. We met in 2007 and became best friends, started dating in 2012, and married in 2016. We communicate our sexual desires very clearly, and I thought our sex life was great. Now I'm not so sure.

I have always had an unfounded fear of losing her, because she is so smart and beautiful and outgoing, that men are constantly salivating all around her. Even though she has never given me a reason to doubt, I have always feared that some man will eventually come along and convince her that I'm not good enough for her.

But she is by far the most ethical person I have ever met, so I don't think she has ever cheated on me, and I don't think she really meant everything she said that night. But I'm having a difficult time getting my thoughts in order, especially because she hasn't contacted me at all.

But then again, this is new territory for both of us. We have never had a significant argument, much less a fight that would lead us to sleep apart one night. Last week was a normal week. Saturday was a fun day. She was very happy all day and we were both very much looking forward to this event.

The only variable was her running into "John", whom I had met maybe 5 years ago when they worked together, but they had never dated or been particularly close. So I really don't know what triggered her.

She also has a very good relationship with my sister and my mother. My sister is one of her best friends and has been for years, so I'm sure she's embarrassed for them as well.

But her silence now is what's killing me. I don't know what to make of it. Should I be the one to go see her and try to fix things, or should I let her come back on her own terms?


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Title Post from the front page of Reddit where a poor confused married guy has no idea what is happening
Author Capital_Recognition
Upvotes 761
Comments 426
Date 12 November 2019 05:42 PM UTC (11 months ago)
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Link https://theredarchive.com/post/294968
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[–]GearaltofRivia894 points895 points  (132 children) | Copy

Is it normal for most guys to get a pitting feeling in their stomach when reading this type of stuff right? Because I do. This shit hurts still for my fellow man

[–]vulgar_display_148 points149 points  (4 children) | Copy

Yeah for real. He might be BP’d but we all were at one point to some extent. I don’t even think at my worst I was that bad. The girl probably cheated on him multiple times before this. I feel bad that he put so much value on such a thot. I’ve tricked myself into romantically desiring people like that in the past. So in that sense, I really do feel for him.

[–]Hjalmbere80 points81 points  (0 children) | Copy

She cheated on him with other guys, not John. Hence the hissy fit when BP hubbie forced her to pass up on some alpha cock.

[–]Truedemocracy524 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep. AWALT in that all women are capable of cheating but this guy likely missed some seismic red flags for that kind of behavior

[–]yomo865 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

She hasn't cheated. Otherwise she wouldn't have such a problem with not fucking John and having a meltdown. A RP guy would call it quits and with three witnesses in a car, a public humiliation and no children, alimony can be reduced to the bare minimum.

[–]throwaway1010985451 points452 points  (19 children) | Copy

YES. Reading this made me so mad I broke my deadlift record by a few pounds.

[–]syf3r98 points99 points  (3 children) | Copy

you got a chuckle out of me.

[–]James_Rustler_81 points82 points  (13 children) | Copy

I hit two plates on DL for the first time today. Unrelated to the story though.

[–]hiroshimatruthbombs68 points69 points  (0 children) | Copy

Gotta pump those numbers my man.

But well done. It’s progress

[–]VaN__Darkholme12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

I hit 1 plate and a quarter last session. I am just a newbie tho.

[–]novalentineforyou31 points32 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're outlifting all the soyboys who never go to the gym. that's good.

[–]gixxerthouguy5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy

What weight is "a plate"? (UK based)

[–]OrpheusV12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

Generally it's 45lb/20.4kg unless specified otherwise. "X plates" would be X plates on each side of the bar.

Two plates would be the bar (45) plus two plates on each side (45x4), or 225lb/102kg.

[–]gixxerthouguy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks buddy, thats good to know. Our standard big plates tend to be 20kg, but my gym just got new equipment with the big plates now being 25kg. Our bars weigh 20kg also, so sounds pretty similar.

[–]1empatheticapathetic8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I used to get motivated by TRP stuff a while back. This is a good reminder.

[–]skxch83 points84 points  (4 children) | Copy

Dude my eyes got wide and my stomach dropped when I read that “boom” sentence. Fuuuuuck

[–]Pouderpuff23 points24 points  (2 children) | Copy

I actually laughed. Not in a mocking way mind you. Just from reading his story I knew what was on her mind that entire time and when I read the boom I chuckled because it was all bit confirmed right then and there.

If this guy would have known about this place he would have acted accordingly. Imagine being blind sided like this though? Oof.

[–]skxch2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I mean I knew what he was feeling at that moment, but as others have said, he didn’t do enough preparation beforehand so it hit him like a bomb.

[–]Dane500 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I thought she wants to go to Norms because John was there and then the sister confirmed it.

[–]macheagle5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

DITTO. Exactly this sir. My eyes widened and I verbally went OHHHH outloud even though I was alone.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill127 points128 points  (7 children) | Copy

Does it hurt because of her or him? Hint, it's not her...

Incidently, my wife and sister would have cut that bitch. Don't fuck with Italian women...

[–]PhantomRedditor545 points46 points  (3 children) | Copy

I find it interesting that she would show out in front of his family. That shows you how disrespectful she is.

[–]NiceKicksGabe32 points33 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lol and he called her a smart woman. That was a dumb ass move on her part. Drunk or not.

[–]psychoduckly1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Even funnier- he called her "ethical"!

[–]Tutsks24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hahahahaha

It just came to mind that my grandma woulda opened the door and kicked her off the uber, whether it was moving or not.

[–]redvelvet_oreo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Word! Italians know whats up.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that274 points275 points  (68 children) | Copy

The part that hurts is this guy is such a pussy.

Here is what OP should have done. Aside from all the other things hes already doing wrong that drove her to this point.

  1. When John was hitting up your wife, go talk to them and take over the conversation and get him to keep talking about himself. The more he talks about himself the less attractive she will think he is. This is AMOGing and somewhat mate guarding. You shouldn't have to mate guard, but look it shes already flirting with this dude, you fucked up and this is damage control. Also, the fact you couldn't tell she was flirting means you are a fucking moron.

  2. During the uber ride. Instruct the uber to go to her parents house. Knock on the parents door, explain that she has broken her marital vows, and then leave her there. Immediately call the cell phone company and cancel her line. Also report all credit cards stolen and change your bank passwords as well as anything else. Transfer any money from joint accounts into 1 that only has your name on it.

  3. For the next few days. Move anything valuable you have out of the residence. Pay for temporary storage if needed. Take it down to bare bones. If the house is in only your name, change the locks. If the house is in both your names you shouldn't lock her out. Just don't be home. Record every interaction with her from here on. Dont fucking call her you idiot. Make her come to you.

  4. If you want to reconcile, she will pretty much need to become your slave to redeem herself at this point. I'm talking your name permanently tattooed on her stomach and ass and shit. Anything short of that, no, cut your losses, you can't fix this. She has severely disrespected you in front of your mother and sister, over John's dick, and there is no return except for her to completely forsake herself to you.

  5. Move your assets..if you own a home or anything together, initiate the sale of it. Begin divorce proceedings. If you manage to reconcile, still divorce her, you can love her without being legally tied to her.

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What OP did wrong before the dinner night

  1. Holy shit.

  2. She isnt your best friend. Shes your sexual partner. You wouldn't have become friends with her if you didn't want to fuck her. I can prove it too. How? You eventually fucked her, that's how. You wouldn't fuck your best friend, you fuck your sexual partner. The moment you fucked her the whole "best friend" this was over.

  3. If you treat your sexual partner like a best friend instead of a sexual partner, she will stop being your sexual partner.

  4. Your dick size really doesn't matter. That was just said to hurt you. She was honest though in that she wants to fuck a real man.

A real man wants to flirt with her in front of her husband and rip off clothes and bend her over and fuck her. That is what John wants to do to your wife. And he'd do it in front of you, because to him shes just a fuckhole and you're the bitch putting up with her. Hes gonna tell her where to go and what to do and she is going to listen and obey because she is a submissive woman who craves leadership. Leadership you lack.

She wants to be dominated and desired. You don't fulfill that. She wants to be pounded like a fuckhole, because that is exactly what she is and all women are. Men are fuck sticks, women are fuckholes.

  1. Why the fuck are you hanging out with your sister and mom. Those are 2 women who would never ever fuck you, nor would you want them to. It makes you look like a bitch and gives you negative preselection.

Ok I'm gonna stop here for now and edit in more later.

[–]good-afternoon100 points101 points  (9 children) | Copy

This is harsh but quality. Really addresses all the issues at hand

Edit: Lmao this comment got me banned from femaledatingstrategy for some reason

[–]redditor67tny47 points48 points  (4 children) | Copy

they banned you for a comment you made in a different sub?

[–]good-afternoon39 points40 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yeah, seems like it's automated

[–]DancesWithPugs19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

{Heretic Detected}

{Initiate Protect Feels Protocol}

[–]Sobinia5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

I thought men get banned from that sub simply for being men...

[–]roowUrboat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was just banned 20 minutes ago for posting here as well. Went out in a blaze of glory in my reply message. That sub is depressing and full of amateur prostitutes and more hypocrisy I could stand in half a life time. Good riddance

[–]1empatheticapathetic14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

HAHAHAHA. Hilarious shit. Those women are the biggest failures in life. Women have the dating market by the balls their entire life and those women somehow managed to fuck it all up, to the point they need to overtly strategise. Women don’t speak overtly about anything.

[–]logosolos0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good God that place is a cesspool. I don't know what I expected.

[–]PirateWave0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Same. For a comment made on another post.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire260 points61 points  (32 children) | Copy

There needs to be a new category on Reddit of platinum, because this is a platinum comment, especially the first bit about getting the guy to talk about himself, which is actually some pretty good trade-craft.

[–]Truedemocracy518 points19 points  (3 children) | Copy

Can you imagine the balls John has to hit on this guys wife in front of his husband and invite her out to get food later knowing damn well they’d be together?

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire26 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Eh, shit just happens. I was actually John a few years ago. I went to a bar for someone's birthday. Instant social proof. Also, I don't really drink, and I was confident, and happy with myself. So I attracted the attention of one attractive woman, and we chatted for awhile. Then this guy's fiancee started talking to me. At first it was just a friendly conversation, but then it kept going and going, and it seemed like she was interested in me, and I was more attractive than the guy. He tried to play it cool, but I could see it was rattling him. He periodically came over to mark his turf with hugs and kisses, but it didn't matter, because there was chemistry. She was probably bored with him. We wound up talking for the better part of the evening, and even dancing together. Then I didn't see her for months. Later on, she broke up with the fiance. It turned out that she had a lot of issues with mental health and alcohol. I had just broken up with an LTR for similar issues, but I figured it would be a "practice" date. It became clear to me that I had unwittingly done a Tao of Steve. I showed up, was excellent, and was gone. The seed was planted.

I wish I could tell you that I fucked the shit out of her, but I didn't, because I was going through a break-up and didn't want to involve myself with anyway, and also, she seemed really messed up, and I was turned off by it. Even though she was very pretty, she was also crazy. Ultimately, she got back with the fiance, but not before a whole guys hanging around on the sidelines had their way with her. That was also a turnoff. Her telling me how she fucked X and Y guys, one who was a neighbor. Now she is back wit him. The guy was willing to endure it because she's above him in SMV. I didn't set out to do anything. There was natural attraction, and it snowballed. There was no agenda, or strategy, or lines, or anything. All I had was natural chemistry, and I was better than the fiance in some respects, or was perceived as better, or different.

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[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not necessarily. People social dance all the time with other people's girlfriends, fiancees, and wives. I social dance. She was the one who asked me if I would dance with her. I also asked the fiance and he said he was fine with it, and seemed fine with it. So, there were extenuating circumstances. I was actually the most concerned about the appropriateness of the dancing out of the three of them.

Also, I think I was just out of an LTR, and was poorly socialized for the type of situation I was in, meaning, I didn't have a sense of what was or wasn't inappropriate. I would say that the most inappropriate aspect of what I did was the length of time I spent giving her attention and talking to her. But that was only clear in retrospect.

On the other hand, she presented extremely well. She looked immaculate, came across as intelligent, and most seductively, she seemed very interested in me, and kept asking me questions about myself, with no shit-testing BS. So comparatively speaking, I WAS thirsty for that kind of validation from a beautiful woman.

Also, until you are actually married to someone, it's all kind of up in the air, and these days, people don't even respect marriages, meaning their own. Another thing is, I assumed it was someone who was in an LTR, and who was gaming their fiance, meaning, she wasn't really interested in me romantically, she was just being social to get some space from him and vice versa.

Finally, I wasn't trying to game her. I didn't have a "plan." I friended her on social media, but I didn't send her endless messages, and I didn't try to rendezvous with her. Also, I didn't act seductive with her when I talked to her. I just talked to her like a regular person. There just happened to be mutual chemistry.

In any case, she had a lot of problems that were hidden to me at the time. If she was being a good fiancee, she would have limited the amount of attention she paid me. That's usually what happens in strong relationships: the woman is the one who bows out after a reasonable interval. Also, I didn't know the guy, and he wasn't a friend, so I didn't have that acting as deterrent.

[–]dgillz6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

There already is reddit platinum, along with silver and gold naturally.

[–]nayvote6 points7 points  (26 children) | Copy

See that was the only part I really disagreed with. It funnels all the focus and attention on him, and you're giving him an EXCUSE to talk about himself so now it DOESN'T seem pretentious and overbearing. I don't like the idea.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire224 points25 points  (18 children) | Copy

Well, there's no such thing as a risk-free life.

If you leave her alone with the dude, who knows what he's going to say, and how she's going to react towards him.

If you go over, you don't have to get all aggressive, but you can engage the guy, and divert his attention away from the girl, and also signal to him that she is with you, and that he's wasting his time, without play the role of jealous boyfriend. Also, you can subtly make fun of him, or deflate him in conversation, or prove that however accomplished he is, you're not impressed, or that you're a big enough person to not display the scarcity mentality of jealousy, while at the time same time acting like his "greatness" is no big deal, in fact it's common place.

Personally, the OP story seemed a little bit contrived. That part about OP's wife suddenly blurt out about him having a small dick seemed straight out of a porno plotline, or a mansophere rageporn. I wouldn't be surprised if someone on here or another sub wrote it with a throwaway just to get our issues on the front-page. Also, the OP was WAY too beta soyboy cuck, going on about how great his wife is, when she literally just shat all over him for a random dude she worked with. It read a bit like fanfic.

But in the story, he leaves his wife alone to be hit on by a guy, which while not mate-guarding, is passive as fuck, because it shows fear of a possible confrontation.

I was at an event recently, and this girl was flirting with me, and I was then, wondering if she was attached, when lo and behold, her boyfriend walked up with a somewhat hostile demeanor. I calmly chatted with him, and he relaxed once he realized I wasn't trying to move in on his turf. Had he not done that, I might not have known her status, because she didn't volunteer the information, and then I might have hit on her, which could have made things more awkward. So, he did the proper thing, IMO. For her, it was probably about validation-seeking, as well as foreplay, meaning, she'll probably got an extra hard pounding from him, just to prove he is worth it to her. Just imagine, though, if he had seen us flirting, and then acted like a hurt beta, gamma, or omega, and slunk off to go sulk somewhere. It could have led to sex between me and the girl. I think this is what OP did. He let things go to the point that his girlfriend forgot he existed. Of course, they were already having problems. And she was drinking, and probably got horny. But again, it read a bit like fanfic.

[–]DancesWithPugs9 points10 points  (12 children) | Copy

Like it or not, you have to enforce LTR boundaries to stay in the LTR. Women be testin'. I had to jettison potential new friends several times for trying to step in. Good riddance though, if they won't respect your relationship they will not be a good friend.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy

Mate Guarding is part of being in a LTR. But it should be minimal otherwise you're going to be an emotional wreck.

I keep it simple. No male friends for her. If she's talking to a guy, I don't have to do any guess work.

She hasn't initiated conversation with a guy since I told her my policy on that. If she doesn't like any of my stipulations she is always free to leave. If she violates my policy, that's fine, I'll just leave and find another girl.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

She’s just hiding it better, dumbass

[–]1Ill_mumble_that0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

That crossed my mind. Trust but verify.

[–]nayvote1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

How to verify? Keep tabs on her shit (phone, social media, email, etc)?? I've been in relationships where I feel like I have to keep tabs on the bitch. Frankly, I'd rather be alone than do that again. Always wondering, when she's not in your presence, "what might she be doing right now?"....fuck that

[–]Goldenbeardyman1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What do you think is the best way to respond if a guy is flirting with girl?

I usually just go flirt with some other girls and in the blink of an eye, she's back at my side. If she is flirting back with the guy and ignoring me, I'll usually ask the girl I'm flirting with if she wants to go outside for a smoke, that usually gets their attention.

Back in blue pill days, I used to do the mate guard. Keep touching her and have my arm around her to make it obvious and getting angry/aggressive if the guy keeps going (seemed to work at the time, but in hindsight probably made me look insecure).

Advice would be appreciated.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire24 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It depends on the situation, and the person. There is no one-size fits all solution, unfortunately.

Dread, and flirting with other girls worked great with one LTR, like clockwork in fact. She was super into me, though, and we are still friends. That relationship was based on something solid.

With another LTR, it was like throwing gasoline on a fire. When she was super-into me, initially, it worked. But when she became disenchanted, because I had expectations she refused to meet, it then became a justification for her to indicate that she was going to "cheat," because she just assumed I was going to dump her anyway, and rather than repent and reform her behavior, she preferred to hold onto her toxic behavior, and then try to hurt me by using her artificially high SMV as a woman to attract the usual pond scum of orbiting guys of dubious SMV for revenge lays.

The second case was a toxic person, and a toxic situation, but from it, I gleaned that it is easy to misinterpret signals and consequences. I certainly don't enjoy listening to a woman drone on about the virtues of some guy, even if it's just to make me jealous so I fuck her harder or whatever, but I certainly pretend like I'm ambivalent, because that's good tradecraft, so it would stand to reason that she wouldn't want to hear me talk about the virtues of X or Y girl, or brag about past conquests, or present interest, even if it signals that I have high SMV, it also makes her question whether I will disappear in a few months leaving her older and with less prospects, so this could cause her to look elsewhere.

Also, with the dreaded mate-guarding, not coming over to interact when a guy approaches can signal a lack of interest and investment on your part, which can make her insecure. It also signals abundance mentality, but just means she could think she is nothing to you. So it depends on how much you value her and the relationship, whatever it is. If she is just a plate, you are probably ambivalent. But if you are considering her for an LTR, then suddenly you are risking it just to put on a false front. Ultimately, for a relationship to exist and work, people have to stop playing one kind of game, and start playing to win-win. They have to take off their armor, and show a few cards, even if it appears risky.

[–]nayvote1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I pretty much entirely agree with you. I would never let my wife/gf go be drunk & chatty/flirty with some guy...I'd be stepping in and asserting my position. And I'd sure as shit be laying down the law with her in private afterward.

That said, I agree, this reads like some cuck fanfic bullshit.

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[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire22 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It sounds to me like you have decent SMV and a decent wife (ZOMG) who is a willing partner that shares your values, and also values you as a person, to the point, that she wouldn't easily try to trade up just for an increase in material wealth. At a certain point, material wealth can become a liability anyway. People trying to rob you, kidnap and ransom you, kill you. Constant solicitations for business proposals, etc.

I actually saw a clip of this pop up on my phone, from Mad Men, where Roger is trying to flex for Betty, and Don just quietly and subtly deflates him. Of course, that's a TV show.

Also, another thing to consider, the guys that talk to your wife may just be trying to build up some social proof before they go after a woman they know or think is single. I don't have an issue with people being respectful. I think the main problem in these situations are weak relationships, or people who were passing themselves off as virtuous suddenly revealing themselves to be mercenary, and then a person is faced with the quandary of how to react. The smart guys probably initiate dread, or soft next, depending on what they see. We are all human and subject to human frailty. A woman may be flattered, or even a bit attracted, but that doesn't mean she'll cross a boundary she has set for herself.

[–]Tutsks33 points34 points  (6 children) | Copy

You are saying that cause you are ignorant.

Most people, are very boring. and one of the things that kills attraction, is removing mystery.

Also, you guide the convo. This is not: Tell me cool stories about yourself" hour. This is: "We are talking about boring shit from work, boring shit with your family, illnesses, whatever".

Essentially, mundane stuff that kills attraction.

[–]JD423052 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

That could go either way. Have you ever heard the number one rule of journalism is to never give away your microphone to another person? This is giving him the floor for no reason, and if he's any good he'll turn this into a great oppurtunity to show off his charm to the group. And by also showing great interest in him you risk revealing that you show great importance in him and see him as a threat.

[–]Tutsks3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

True, but... its a no win situation to begin with.

See, the problem is, if you try to keep them apart, its gonna be a forbidden fruit situation, and that doesn't work.

The sad truth is that, if the guy is charming enough to style all over you, and she is cool with it... well, you are not winning either way.

A lot of these things require for you to be... either more charming, more cunning, or at least have a plan while the other guy doesn't, take him off balance, and crash things.

But, its like a street fight. If one of the guys is a lanky 80 lb soyboy and the other is 200 lbs of muscle.. well, barring a miracle, the soyboy aint gonna win.

Not saying you are wrong, I'm saying, it was the only thing he had left.

But, in the long run, if she wants to go off and fuck that guy... she will.

Its not something he can do something about.

That's why dude finishes with "and you next her". Because at that point, its done. If you stay, the only question is how often shes gonna be cucking you, not if.

[–]nayvote1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

See you're overloaded with "theory" here man, and not field-tested. The shit your spouting is not optimal in the field.

But bottom line if your wife/girlfriend is showing preference to another man in a social setting, you done fucked up already and must either get that bitch in line or dump her. (Pro-tip: don't get married)

[–]Tutsks1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Hahahaha! Maybe!

I gotta say, I thankfully have never been in this situation. But, the AMOG thing does work, when I've done it. Nothing kills attraction like making people talk about things they don't want to talk about.

So, who knows! You might be right. I have not been in the situation where a girl leaves me to go hang out with someone else. Not a girl I was banging, anyway.

So, if you have more experience with that, you are probably correct.

[–]nayvote2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

LOL! Not so subtle dig at the end, nice. I've never had a girl I was in a relationship with do this to me that I can recall, so perhaps we're both speaking from a position of "theory"....but I've had girls i'm 'talking to' direct their attention to other men over the course of the night, and I've had other men swoop in on girls I'm talking to. In either case the proper response is to outwit them with your own charm and charisma, or move on without a care in the world.

[–]Tutsks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Haha!

But, yeah. Reading the thread made my heart sink. Honestly, I hope it was creative writing cause... poor dude.

[–]jrterry19694 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Items two and three might make you feel good in the short term but are a very high risk legal strategy. Shit like that could easily backfire in divorce proceedings. Her attorney would have a field day making you look like a butt hurt pussy asshole.

Also, you can’t lock your wife out of the house no matter whose name is on the deed.

Calm down and call a lawyer instead.

[–]Truedemocracy52 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Picked that kind of behavior up on the post. He’s probably a very nice husband and but but that’s not what women want. You can tell by how he didn’t raise any internal alarms by this John character, and later on by saying they always talk about sexual desires and what not.

His wife probably has plenty of whore tells me missed as well

[–]8380atgmaildotcom3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

No shit sherlock. If he had this knowledge then this wouldn't have happened, duh.

Relevant though.

[–]PhantomRedditor50 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This was a great answer and opened my eyes to a lot of things in my life that I’m doing wrong. I’m already married, happily so, but I do have a lot of female friends. I guess if I’m not fucking them, I should stop hanging out with them.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nothing wrong with female friends. But every single time a guy says he has female friends, after a few questions usually discover they aren't really his friends and the relationship is massively 1 sided in the female's favor.

What value are they providing you?

[–]PhantomRedditor50 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

🤔 this is a great question to ask.

[–]Gawernator0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

At least in California changing the locks or locking someone out of their residence is extremely illegal. FYI

[–]1Ill_mumble_that-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

Depends. No tenant agreement, no bills in her name there? No evidence.

[–]Gawernator0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Nope. Only have to have resided there for 30 days to establish residency in California. You’re 100% wrong. Please do basic research before posting here.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

What proof of residency does she have other than her testimony? If that's the case I shouldnt be locked out of a few houses in Malibu where I "live."

[–]Gawernator0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

All her things there. You would get absolutely destroyed in court. Lmao. Try a basic google search next time bud

It’s obvious you’ve never been to court. A judge would think you’re an idiot, and enjoy the contempt charge for lying under oath.

[–]Max-Powers30 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

she will pretty much need to become your slave to redeem herself at this point.

Does this work? I caught an LTR texting her ex with a different name in her phone. Instead of ending it like I should have, she did anything and everything to stay with me, I made her do anything I wanted from sex to chores, etc. She ended up resenting me and just bailed one day.

  1. She wasn't sorry she texted him, she was sorry she got caught.
  2. She already proved she'd go behind my back.
  3. I knew forcing her to do stuff she didn't want the relationship would end.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Yes. But she will only resent it if you display low SMV or poor frame. So Beta Billy from the OP would probably have a bad time either way.

[–]Max-Powers30 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

I did, even after understanding RP years later I'm still trying to figure out he puzzle. If he was in the position she cheated on him, no matter who him is they are going to do it again.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Literally got your name tattooed on her and made her drink your urine out of a bowl on the floor?

I mean she doesnt have to. But you just leave her if she doesnt.

[–]Max-Powers30 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Is this a thing? No I didn’t do that. I’d feel sick if I forced another human to do that. I’d rather just leave the cunt.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah quite a few porn videos of it.

[–]Max-Powers30 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Why would forcing degrading behavior solve anyone’s problem, I’m not being a smart ass here, why would I want to date a girl that would drink my piss and have my name tattooed on her. The latter isn’t a huge deal but damn, idk if I could keep dating a girl that drank my piss out of a bowl

[–]1Ill_mumble_that0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's about complete and total submission. She gives you everything. That was just an example.

[–]testable3130 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I have always had an unfounded fear of losing her, because she is so smart and beautiful and outgoing, that men are constantly salivating all around her. Even though she has never given me a reason to doubt, I have always feared that some man will eventually come along and convince her that I'm not good enough for her.

Boom. Just was I was thinking. I hate all these idiots here being sad for the dude.

[–]Zech4riah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And then in real life you would doubt to do any of those things based on a hunch and/or TRP knowledge. It's a real world there.

Right step would be to gather some proof while planning your exit strategy to execute those actions.

[–]1spicy_fries12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

After a few hundred of these stories you’ll feel nothing but amusement. The only thing I was thinking was that this chick must’ve been signaling red flags for a while now and it took a meltdown for him to notice.

He should have hard nexted her long ago and the only thing he is thinking of is kissing and making up.

The dude is a clueless chump and if he refuses the redpill then he deserves everything coming to him.

[–]the_green_grundle34 points35 points  (5 children) | Copy

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[–]Strike4831 points32 points  (1 child) | Copy

Exactly, I saw this coming a mile away with how consistently the dude would let his wife's actions slide and even justify it. He just let her down her drinks and chat up a dude that she wants to fuck for the entirety of the night haha. Then he goes and fetches her with a "honey, it's time to go". What do you expect? That's how you earn yourself a disrespectful woman.

[–]Truedemocracy55 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Any woman will turn disrespectful and into a bitch when given that much weakness. It’s their nature

[–]Vipe7770 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

It used to, now not so much

Any tips on how to stop this? I get so riled up and borderline angry when reading something like this. Sure, he's a BP cuck, but the audacity of the woman always gets me so bad.

[–]the_green_grundle4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

the audacity of women

Women are wired differently than we are. It makes as much sense to get mad at a tree for having leaves as it does to get mad at a woman for being ‘selectively audacious’, lets say.

In other words, you decided to find TRP, reject years of programming, and find a better way. That’s his responsibility too, not yours. So on that same vein, why would you expend your energy and stress over a situation you can’t change? Redirect it towards people who are receptive to TRP or whatever goals you’re pursuing in life.

[–]Vipe7771 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks, I will try that. I can apply that strategy to other, similar problems. But this just seems out of control at the moment.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

A little tragic appreciation for his misfortune is also appropriate.

Even though this kind of experience hurts, it's precisely the catalyst he needs to wake up and take his life back.

[–]donkeykangz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I read posts like this and realise it could happen to me, to any of us. There are too many stories like this.

[–]PhantomRedditor50 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Brooooo, I’m in pain for this guy. This is wrong on so many levels.

[–]SmamelessMe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You get used to it after a few years.

[–]X_Dark_Brother_X0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I just read the beginning and understand what fuck was going on and I couldn't keep reading... So terrible.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Honestly don't. Most men bring it on themselves due to how much of a pussy beta they are. They are always scared of losing their precious wife or girlfriend which they don't realise is a massive turnoff for women as women enjoy the uncertainty and excitement of alphas who treat them like crap because deep down they know they are crap and they know any man who treats her like a princess is a low value worthless loser.

[–]askmrcia1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would have felt sorry for him if he were in his early 20s. He's 30 freaking years old. No, no sympathy from me. Bullshit his wife was out of character, outburst like that don't happen out of nowhere after being in a relationship for nearly a decade.

The signs were always there and he chose to ignore them.

[–]Mr_Piggens0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Me too. I was just gonna comment this. My night is kinda wrecked now. Fuck. :(

[–]thenonwamen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And I do have a smaller than average penis, but she's known that since before we started dating. We met in 2007 and became best friends, started dating in 2012, and married in 2016. We communicate our sexual desires very clearly, and I thought our sex life was great. Now I'm not so sure.

yeah every time i read this im praying that it has some kind of happy ending. it never does.

[–]stripedtanker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A little but then I remember it's this guy's PoV, which is probably biased, and then I don't care anymore. Shit like this doenstn' happnen out of the blue, I mean if this guy was too ignorant to read the signs leading up to it, can't really empathize. And to be afraid of your marraige falling apart when you don't have kids? Jesus, you just got a ticket to freedom.

[–]PeterPansSyndrome252 points253 points  (10 children) | Copy

Out of this whole story her silence is what’s killing him? Lol.

Also “by far, she is the most ethical person I’ve ever met”.

Man I’m glad I found the redpill before I fucked my life up super hard like this guy here.

[–]lastdumra96 points97 points  (0 children) | Copy

He is emotionally dependent on her. That is why her silence is killing him.

Notice how he says she is the most ethical person he knows, when she is clearly not. He idolizes her. He lives with her. She is his emotional world.

[–]TheGweatandTewwible41 points42 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can't say how thankful I am I found this place and every day I thank the gods. Jesus christ, I shiver at the thought of being cucked my whole life and not knowing why things keep falling apart.

[–]a-large-L27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

found the red pill before I fucked my life up super hard

A-fucking-men, some shitty beta heartbreaks led me to the red pill early-on but holy shit I got lucky I didn’t get fucked like this dude

[–]ellendegenorate24 points25 points  (4 children) | Copy

It's amazing how braincels got banned, I suspect because they were even more blackpilled on women than this place and these situations were semi common.

showing the studies that when a woman is rejected by a more attractive man, she takes her anger out on a lesser beta male.

She started screaming something like "what am I going to do at home? Play around with your little dick? Your little dick does nothing for me. I should've fucked John when I had the chance. It's time I start fucking real men...".

obv, there's a lot more at play he's doing everything wrong in the relationship, but the husband cock blocking access to chad dick that night was a kind of rejection. And we know girls don't get told no ever by their husband they settled for.

[–]Truedemocracy57 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

To do that in front of the husbands sister and mother is also a complete lack of respect she has for him, and her drunken state was only an excuse to flirt more with chad John

[–]majani5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

The black pill here is more hurtful than the red pill. There's no way around a micropenis. The only way to get reliable pussy for this man is to beta bux.

[–]Rakosnik4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

hookers wont care. its less work even.

[–]42gauge0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Depends on what you mean by micropenis. Also, this is the redpill subreddit, not the blackpill one.

[–]DancesWithPugs4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck up your mind and your life will follow.

Our culture is failing due to a lack of self discipline. And we fail ourselves without it.

[–]StraightShooter20194 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. This, this, this. Exactly this.

I feel so bad for this guy, but at the same time I'm so grateful that I'm relatively young and know all of this shit now.

[–]GAndGMethod111 points112 points  (3 children) | Copy

I read relationships and relationship advice every day for the lols and to keep me icy.

Reading those sub Reddit’s everything from the red pill side bar plays out over and over again.

Hypergamy does not care.

Those subreddits are 90% the women cheating and 10% women crying over “abuse” and “should I leave him?” And they never do.

[–]Marcozy148 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

i agree.... btw what does Icy mean? I haven’t heard the term in that context.

[–]nahisegaq23423 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

It means cold-hearted. As in, apathetic emotion toward chaotic actions, such as from the average woman

[–]gulag_disco0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Also frosty, like “alert”. You hear it in shoot-em-ups a lot.

[–]pm_me_tangibles367 points368 points  (63 children) | Copy

Yeah saw this.

He was going on about how she’s the most ethical person he’d ever met. Yet she she told him in front of his sis and mother and a stranger that his penis is too small to satisfy her and that she wants a real man to get her pregnant. That she should have married Chad when she had a chance.

Seriously this poor fucking guy. He got fucked, hard. And the comments! Talking about counselling and listening to her!

Smh.

[–]officeaccount199735 points36 points  (43 children) | Copy

link? I cant seem to find it

[–]pm_me_tangibles30 points31 points  (39 children) | Copy

It’s against the rules to post a link to any other sub

[–]officeaccount199725 points26 points  (20 children) | Copy

Thank you! I received your PM.

the post was disgusting and the comments even more disgusting.

[–]WellShit2366 points67 points  (10 children) | Copy

Remember seeing a highly upvoted comment that's saying he should bring her back into his life and contact her because shes the real victim, her "psyche snapped" and everyone replying was saying shit like "finally someone with logic and reason"

With humiliation and disrespect to that category I wouldve called a divorce lawyer while on the ride home.

[–]DancesWithPugs7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

You know it would be a different story in the comments with a slutty disrespectful cunt of a husband humilating his poor wife in front of family

[–]5Imperator_Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That why I laugh when people say that men are finally “waking up” or “the pendulum is about to swing back the other way.”

We’re just projecting what we want. Shit is getting worse. Women are getting crazier. Men are becoming bigger pussies. The law and government will fuck us harder and harder as time goes on.

Shit is not getting better.

[–]42gauge0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Could you send me a PM as well?

[–]TiredOfBeingMediocre5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Could I possibly get the link too?

[–]pm_me_tangibles2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Must have been someone else sending you the link - I'm worried about a bunch of Red Pillers just going in there and not being able to resist making comments....

[–]EmirSc0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

can you send me the link please.

[–]SoulRedemption0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Mind PMing me the link? I could not find it.

[–]Dangerous_Django0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Could I get a PM of the original post too?

[–]Radkin0096 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hook a brotha up can’t find it just keep seeing the sonic movie and facebook not being able to be deleted.

[–]ParmeetSidhu2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Please pm me the link thanks

[–]FrontloadPain1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why are you not linking via some archive site?

[–]electricshuffle11 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Can I get a link too? It doesn't show anywhete

[–]pm_me_tangibles0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

google the main text. it's against TRP rules for me to link to it

[–]stonecold9960 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Please pm me the link too, appreciate it!

[–]mc_md0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Can you send me the post? I can’t find it.

[–]pm_me_tangibles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can’t, alas; TRP rules forbid it.

[–]Sobinia0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Can I get a link too? I want to read through the comments

[–]pm_me_tangibles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Against sub rules. Try googling it.

[–]Dick-Wraith0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Is it in relationship advice?

[–]pm_me_tangibles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Against TRP rules to answer. We don't want to give reddit any excuse. maybe google the desc in OP?

[–]LeFlamel0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Need this link. Reddit search engine failing me.

[–]pm_me_tangibles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude. Google it. Google some of the text OP copied over. I’m not gonna break TRP rules - for one thing because I happen to agree with them.

[–]DrCodswallop4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

i would like a link as well

[–]functionalghost3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would love a link too. or nudes

Just the link will be fine I guess.

Thank you

[–]BlueCommieSpehsFish9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Counselling’s a good idea. Not couple’s counselling though. Also I agree that he should not need to listen to her after the hurtful things she said.

He needs to kick her to the curb, get a divorce, get some counselling or therapy to work through the feelings of betrayal and low self esteem he must be dealing with, hit the gym and lift, gain his confidence and live well.

[–]cutt880 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Counseling is garbage, it's useless. It's literally someone you met for the first time in your life convincing you you're not that bad of a guy. This shit would have never worked for me. You can build your confidence back only by yourself. Most important of all - learn to love yourself. You yourself is the most important part of your life.

[–]BlueCommieSpehsFish1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It works for a lot of people bro. You seem to not quite understand what therapy is meant to do. I have had depression for a long time (shortly after someone close to me died) and honestly fighting it entirely on my own wasn’t working. I’d say that my psychologist has helped me to change my frame of mind about many different things in my life.

Counselling isn’t someone telling you you’re not that bad of a guy or that you shouldn’t try to change the way you think. Any psychologist worth his salt helps you with figuring out why you think the way you do about things, or why you have negative emotional reactions to things, and trying to get you to change your mindset about those things. Often mine just guides me to my own revelations. Helps that he’s pretty red-pilled about things too.

[–]kokoke6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

He also orbited her for 5 years as her "best friend"

He doesn't want to jeopardize finally getting his oneitis.

[–]Eliusesreddit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Too late to listen to her now😂

[–]Truedemocracy51 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What the fuck does that even mean.

“You are the most ethical person I’ve met”

Sounds like something a NPR listening cuck would say about a feminist wife

[–]pm_me_tangibles1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

He bought the bullshit. Regardless of whether ethical behaviour is common or not in women - it sure as shit is absent in his precious little ex-unicorn.

That poor bastard.

[–]tryintofly0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Can I get link as well? Unless it's too depressing for words lol.

[–]asdfghjklshi0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Care to pm me aswell brother?

[–]pm_me_tangibles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can’t, alas; TRP rules forbid it.

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[–]pm_me_tangibles0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Depends on when you looked through the comments.

Over time different people come in to the thread and vote accordingly, which changes the prominence and order of comments.

Perhaps the feminists came in early (when I was there) and the rest of us joined in when other subs highlighted the thread (and when you were there).

Or, you know, maybe I added a strong bias to the comments I summarised here (knowingly or unconsciously).

We may never know.

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[–]pm_me_tangibles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don't know what to tell you. I saw more leaning the other way. Maybe because my sort was different. In any case - any amount of people talking about couples theray and listening to her - IMO is just crazy.

[–]kankouillotte[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And the comments! Talking about counselling and listening to her!

wtf XD humanity is lost, cancel project

[–]Andgelyo-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

As he should, I have no sympathy for these weak fucks.

[–]pennywise2103244 points245 points  (15 children) | Copy

Notice the very important but subtle detail of Daddy coming to pick up her stuff. Classic example of a woman being availed of the need to be accountable.

[–]Short-changedChad102 points103 points  (3 children) | Copy

Notice the very important but subtle detail that it is men who choose not to hold them accountable.

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[–]Short-changedChad4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women are functioning as intended. It’s modern man who is crazy.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

[–]PhaedrusHunt20 points21 points  (9 children) | Copy

Good dad would tell her she's a disgraceful daughter and to go somewhere else like John's house.

My daughter is 13 and I want her to eventually be with a strong man she respects. I would warn her about the man she's marrying if I saw he was like this guy-- it's bound to blow up-- and tell her that if she ever has to come back because of something that's her fault she has another thing coming.

This woman is about to cash in her one way ticket for the cock carousel.

[–]tryintofly12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy

Why didn't she go to John's house?

Let me guess, he wasn't interested and their casual flirting meant less than nothing to him.

[–]PhaedrusHunt14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nah just because she was busted.

She'll go later when they actually split, I'd she hasn't already

[–]Truedemocracy50 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The uber took 30 min to get to her parents house. Guessing they live closer than that - she probably went back to good place and John saw her as a drunk mess and told her to fuck off

[–]psychoduckly0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She went to John's house. After he ATM'd her, he told her that she couldn't stay, because his gf was coming over. Then, she went to Dad's house.

[–]KingOfAllWomen2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Holy shit yes!

If my daughter was this age and did this i'd be like what the fuck are you doing? lol.

Idk. Maybe the dad was afraid if he sent her home she would just Uber to Johns and fuck him and destroy her whole life then have to move back in permanently.

[–]PhaedrusHunt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'd tell her to stay at John's

[–]kokoke2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Eh, her Dad probably didn't know the whole story.

And at the end of the day, he's probably old school in that he doesn't interfere with other people's relationship but he'll always choose to support his kid against the world.

[–]PhaedrusHunt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And that's half the problem. Weak men as fathers.

[–]kokoke0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

To be fair, that's the kind of a thing a Dad would do in that situation. He probably imagined that the guy would be frothing mad and most probably physically hurt his daughter.

At least, that's what logical to me.

[–]Apfeltee72 points73 points  (2 children) | Copy

This hurt to read. God bless the red pill.

[–]GandMeChattri21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can you imagine being in that situation? I wouldn't have been quarter the man I am if not for TRP and this community.

[–]ezentient0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A dose a day of the redpill keeps one healthy mentality and otherwise.

[–]_do_not_read_this_322 points323 points  (26 children) | Copy

fear that my marriage might be over just like that, with no warning whatsoever.

This LOLs me. Sure dude, no warning, just like that.

LOL.

This LOLs me too:

but they had never dated or been particularly close.

Sure dude, they never fucked not even once.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime306 points307 points  (5 children) | Copy

“Met in 2007, best friends until 2012, then started dating”

This is your typical beta orbiter who waited it out and married his oneitis after she hit the wall and the chads dried up. She’s so high up on a pedestal that in his eyes she can do no wrong.

She probably wears the pants, moans all day and only fucks him once a month but in his eyes that’s completely “normal”.

This is what happens when you combine a high dose of the blue pill, a seriously inexperienced beta male and marriage.

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[–]bjcm589115 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ugh. I just got a visual of some flabby loser jerking off in his bedroom to pictures of this girl for 5 years and , wadded up tissues scattered across his floor, then getting next to her and thinking "Finally I don't have to jerk off over her anymore!"

And to think all those nights, those 5 years of pining for her, the John's of the world were filling his precious unicorn's arse up with cum every second they got...

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not only that but can you imagine him being a thirsty friendzone orbiter for 5 years?

I've seen betas orbit for a DECADE. This one guy I knows entire SM presence revolves around one girls life. He's on IG for almost a decade, and the ONLY pictures of him with ANY girls is with the one he's been orbiting forever. Seriously, NO pictures of other girls except for his oneitis. Embarrassing.

[–]album114 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

She’s so high up on a pedestal that in his eyes she can do no wrong.

Even after they get fucked over by these hoes. I’ve lost track of how many dudes I know IRL that think like this.

[–]_do_not_read_this_-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Betcha a nickel he's raising someone else's kids too. Knowingly raising them.

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[–]Truedemocracy51 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep. Alcohol isn’t the issue. She knew she wanted johns dick and wanted to be the girl to openly flirt with her and knew alcohol would get her there.

Taking away alcohol means less uber rides of her crying drunk. Doesn’t take away the resentment

[–]tryintofly-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

The real demon that night was the alcohol.

[–]jpeero8825 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

hahaha upvote my good truth speaking sir

[–]tyronethejabrone23 points24 points  (13 children) | Copy

Empty words but I seriously doubt they ever fucked.

A lot of guys here can’t ever imagine there being a desire between two people who don’t capitalize on it.

It’s what trp gets wrong.

[–]Capital_Recognition[S] 16 points17 points  (10 children) | Copy

Until you have fucked a married woman, or a woman who is in a "loving relationship" it is hard to imagine how truly magnetic you can be to woman. I have ran through a number of married woman and the story is pretty much always the same. In about half the cases they keep their mouth shut and keep fucking me... in the other half, they go back and tell the guy. The guy then contacts me and says, "We need to talk."

I kid you not, it has been the same script on many many occasions. It always ends with either deceit and cunning, or her coming clean about the infidelities and him taking her back.

That is not to say I have not struck out when desire is at play... she was probably just somewhere else in her menstrual cycle at the point we were in contact, but the amount of times that it has happened have shown me how easy and possible it is... and how magnetic you can be to woman.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (6 children) | Copy

truth.

i genuinely believe it's because when there are no checks and balances on hypergamy, no shaming mechanisms, no consequences, no morality, no religion, no one to answer to.

then women (and men aswell frankly) will just act on their base desires. we're all animals. and we currently live in a consumer culture that encourages laziness, lust, greed, gluttony and paints it all as "naughty fun".

in the west we're conditioned to be hedonists. so frankly it doesn't surprise me one bit that people cheat so much. for most people cheating is just another "naughty" thing they did.

western society makes people value their instant gratification over higher values.

so when that alpha guy gives the girl tingles she says fuck it, he gave me tingles YOLOOOO. who cares if it destroys my family and fucks my kids lives up, YOLO.

so when you see that pizza and it looks delicious, you say FUCK IT YOLOOO. even though you know you're a fat fuck.

so when you think i should probably go to the gym but then some good shit is on TV you say YOLOOOOO, lets relax and enjoy life right woooohooo.

and the reason i said people cheat, not just women is because men cheat plenty as well from what i've seen, who cheats more... who knows, probably women just cos of the pure access they have to dick. but the key is that I think the reason cheating is so rampant today is that it's just another symptom of a society that is based on consumerism and hedonism. cheating is just another form of that muffin you shouldn't of eaten cos you're a fat fuck.

the reason people cheat is because they have no principle or values. it's just what i want when i want it.

[–]NarrowBath70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

we're in the midst of a pendulum swing. something something good times weak men hard times strong men etc. We're in the midst of a pendulum swing yet aware of it. Most people aren't aware, or at least not willing to admit to themselves we're in it. What I'm saying is, we're do for an overhual, probably within our lifetimes. We'll see. The main message remains the same as it always though, which is comforting. Improve. Socialize. Lift. Get hobbies. Be stoic. Do these things and you'll come out the other side.

[–]lala_xyyz-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

and the reason i said people cheat, not just women is because men cheat plenty as well from what i've seen, who cheats more... who knows, probably women just cos of the pure access they have to dick. but the key is that I think the reason cheating is so rampant today is that it's just another symptom of a society that is based on consumerism and hedonism. cheating is just another form of that muffin you shouldn't of eaten cos you're a fat fuck.

men have cheated since time immemorial. the important thing to understand is that they didn't ruin their own families for it. they just fucked a random hoe or had a lover that wasn't intent on ruining his marriage. when women cheat it's completely different - they have already crossed their husband/partner out of their mind for eternity, and are just finding an excuse to leave them. women can't cheat without emotional attachment, and that's why it's so ruinous for them and the society when they do it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

cheating ruins relationships both ways. i mean ask girls who have been cheated on, sure they might take him back, but the relationship is tainted forever now.

sure you can argue that it's worse when a woman does it and i agree but it's shitty both ways frankly.

it's like saying it's worse to get shot in the stomach than in the arm. both suck so why don't we just do neither.

[–]ZachMeadows1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think it's because they project their thought process of cheating onto the man.

Like said, when a woman cheats it's over. Or she settled for a lesser man (to her) and it never was a relationship to begin with. When a man cheats, it's just an itch to scratch. Sure it can be controlled, but no harm intended.

And with solipsism in the equation, women think it's all over or it never was.

That's why they are hurt.

Once you know that, you basically cannot be hurt in a relationship, you just move on to the next.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

i feel what you're saying and i agree with you but my point im making is that when the rubber meets the road, cheating is bad for the relationship and for the family, whoever does it, however it manifests. maybe varying degrees of bad and bad in different ways but it's still bad, so i don't think the details are that relevant in practical terms.

obviously for red pill theory and understanding women it's important to understand the how and why and the differences.

[–]tyronethejabrone7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I didn’t say it doesn’t happen.

Congrats on the sex though

[–]Lefort30004 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Deuteronomy 22:22: “If a man is found lying with a married woman, then both of them shall die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman; thus you shall purge the evil from Israel.

[–]kokoke3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Haha, this reminds me of a woman I met early this year. She was immensely interested, always down to fuck and please me. Went on for 3 months. Then she went cold and ghosted. I simply nexted cause at the time I was super busy and getting pussy was not a problem or a priority. Her friend hit me up one Saturday evening, saying she was crying cause she wanted me but she was also in a loving relationship to a guy who'd proposed and they were getting married august. Even as a redpilled guy, I was absolutely stunned that someone who had been that slutty with me, had been engaged all that time.

Got an invite to the wedding because she wanted to set me up with her best friend(the one who called, and who still randomly calls me on weekends). I never went, that's playing with hot fire.

[–]Truedemocracy50 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

10 minutes with this girl could probably spot the red flags

[–]Flying_Wingback214 points215 points  (16 children) | Copy

Someone pm the guy this post

[–]Capital_Recognition[S] 188 points189 points  (15 children) | Copy

Ehh, you never know... maybe he comes to the dark side. But there are only 400k subscribers here for a reason. This shit is too controversial for the average soy boy. It goes hard against the grain and makes guys angry. Just to think, at least 10 of those subscribers are me from past accounts over the years since I ditch every 6 months to a year. So, I would be willing to bet that number is smaller than we think. Probably could cut it in half.

[–]Flying_Wingback72 points73 points  (9 children) | Copy

I think it’s controversial when you haven’t gone through such an experience to connect the dots. Once you go thru certain event in your life (which I think this guy just did) then the same guy can come back here and relate to the material.

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez45 points46 points  (7 children) | Copy

When the student is ready the master will appear. Most, if not all of us, have had a run in with the female Id monster to some degree just like this man now has. If he wants to know why it happened, he'll find his way here on his own. Otherwise, he'll just call us a bunch of misogynists and go deeper into the wild blue yonder.

[–]totallymanlytears22 points23 points  (6 children) | Copy

Agreed - you need to be rock bottom (eg. a loser who’s tired of getting stepped on) to find this place, listen with an open mind, and use it as a tool instead of it “making you angry” or whatever

[–]D3athN0te10125 points26 points  (5 children) | Copy

you need to be rock bottom (eg. a loser who’s tired of getting stepped on) to find this place

Bruh just wrote my life story.

Yeah, I swallowed the whole "I don't need to improve myself. Women will love me for who I am" pill.

This lack of desire for self improvement, caused by the "Meh, I'm good enough" mentality, took me on a long hard trip to rock bottom when I turned 18.

  • I was a man-child. No self control, in any sense of the word. Money, sex/porn, my emotions, I was a slave to them all.
  • I was a doormat. Couldn't say "no", actually feeling guilty for refusing to help people.
  • I was a Nice Guy. Always trying to play therapist for women, genuinely wanting to make them feel better. Genuinely nice. Of course I wanted sex, but it wasn't the primary motivation. I'd have been genuinely happy if all I'd gotten out of being an emotional tampon was seeing her feel better. It wasn't until I took The Red Pill that I realized I was the exception, not the rule. And that every woman assumed I was the rule by default. Not that it mattered either way though, as we know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

It took 5 years (I'm 23 now). The first 2 living life extremely confused about nearly every facet of life (women/dating, employment, various social norms which just seemed/seem retarded, etc), and the last 3 having been Red Pill Aware.

Thanks to The Red Pill, I've got my balls back.

  • I no longer feel guilty for saying "No".
  • I no longer feel the need to be a therapist for every walking sob story.
  • I understand women (Well, better anyway. Some of the shit they do still makes me scratch my head).
  • I ended my 4 year dry spell.

[–]totallymanlytears12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

What you've said is very relatable (probably for a lot of people) and I'm glad that a place like this exists to share such realizations, it's powerful for sure.

One thing I would say, if you want my take, is be careful saying/thinking things like "I am no longer blue pill" or the like. I think this unconsciously causes us to resist new information as we think we're "cured". The truth is, we never are, no one is, before internet or not - there is surely a long way to go and new challenges that will test us and break us, no matter how old we are. Just my thoughts, have a good one

[–]MasterJeaf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're latter point is very important. I made that same mistake and found myself wound up in shit city before long, problem was I'd gotten comfortable and complacent in my redpilled mind naively thinking I'd learned all there is to learn. I was wrong. You kill the beta and you don't stop until you yourself keel over die from old age.

[–]PhantomRedditor50 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This is my story too. At least you swallowed the red pill and the capsule released in your stomach and are enjoying the benefits. For me, I’ve swallowed it, but it’s hard to keep down because I’m in the beginning stages.

[–]D3athN0te1012 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, the beginning stages are a bitch.

If it makes ya feel better, I spend 2.5 of the 3 years stuck in the Red Pill Rage phase.

It's a mental shift. There will be a moment where everything just snaps into place in your mind, when you stop being pissed off, and just accept reality for what it is.

On the other side is a sort of twisted paradise, where BP men will call you a cuck/incel while you fuck their wives.

In a sea of Fish, a Shark lives fearless and never hungers.

[–]Managicall3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its just basic diplomacy you would pick up on with any other person and think nothing of it. Enter in some romance and all the rules go out the window.

[–]theboddha25 points26 points  (1 child) | Copy

"there are only 400k subs for a reason"

Because the Reddit admins have quarantined, censored, and done everything short of delete TRP

[–]DancesWithPugs3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

People embrace feminism for fear of offending, wanting to protect and please women, and not be rejected by the crowd. They have good slogans and PR, and elite support including the school curriculum. Feminists fear losing support and an open fair debate based on reason and facts is not their strong suit.

RP encourages bravery and honest self reflection. The oligarchs do not want brave, honest, self disciplined people that could become rivals or disrupt their plans. They like fear, crowd psychology and people easily manipulated.

[–]DeepProphet2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Keep it that way. There are already too many clueless guys who have the wrong idea and are making posts here.

[–]1empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There’s plenty of discussion here for him to ponder over.

[–]SoakMyBigCork97 points98 points  (6 children) | Copy

As other users have pointed out, a lot of the comments are advising him not to throw away the marriage and talk to her, consider counseling, etc. At least one woke fellow had the balls to post what would happen if the genders were reversed. Here's his comment in response to the block quote on the first line:

if you'd said all those things or equivalent about her - you'd be expected to crawl your way back with major apologies.

Let's at least be honest here:

A man gets shitfaced at a party. He sees an old coworker that he clearly wants to have sex with that night. His wife blocks him from having sex with the coworker at the hotel and in response he calls his wife a fucking asshole. They all get into the uber, and on the way back home he attempts to meet up with the coworker at another location so he can try to have sex with her again. Once more, the wife blocks his attempt to cheat, and in response he has a complete meltdown in the uber in which he screams at his wife that her vagina is disgusting, their sex life sucks because of her disgusting vagina, and that she is worthless because she can't even bear his children. And on top of everything, he does ALL of this in front of her father and brother.

Yeah, every single person on reddit would be telling the wife to leave her husband immediately, people would be offering to set her up with shelters and other resources for abused women, and the man would probably be lying on the ground with a broken jaw and a concussion courtesy of the father and brother.

[–]Arnoux13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is not only the problem with the reddit itself but the relationships subreddit. You see only filtered responses. I got banned from there or maybe comment removed couple of times because of some very mild tough love advices. Also after you get some downvotes you can’t comment there just every 10 mins. After like 100 downvotes, couple of post removals, maybe ban and not even being able to reply to the stupid comment because of 10mins limit people get tired and just unsub from that subreddit.

[–]bootyannihilator3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Their advice is infuriating.

[–]NarrowBath72 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

holllllly shit this the real shit right here I legit laughed reading this. Accurate. Just imaging a guy acting that way is hilarious. It's actually unbelievable for a guy to act that way. Reading it with the genders revered really highlighted how inane the wifes actions were. Ah man, I think this is a helpful exercise in determining if your gf/wife is in the wrong or not. Switch the genders, how would things turn out if the guy acted the way she did.

[–]IM_MAKIN_GRAVY1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I lost it at disgusting vagina. I mean it was clear from reading the original that he should leave her with whatever repercussions his heart desires. But this pretty clearly illustrates the biases we have towards women. I didn't even realize how appalled I should be until I read this.

[–]askmrcia1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Here's another example of the biases towards women. When the Redpill got quarantined was it ever because this sub criticized men?

MGTOW/RedPill subs get a lot of shit for calling women out on their bullshit. But when you see posts like "don't be a beta, this guy is a beta, Do XYZ to avoid being bluepilled, this guy is a cuck, ect..." You hear nothing but crickets from those who call out the RedPill sub.

People will accept it when you call guys creeps, betas, simps, pussy worshipers, ect... But when you criticize women its a no no. They call this sub sexist and they say MGTOWs hate women, but they never ever criticize these subs when they talk poorly about men. If this sub left out any topic revolving around men and simply bashed men then there would be no problem. Proof?

Niceguys, TwoX, Relationships, AskReddit and AskMen are all subs that bash men, but will damn near ban you if talk about women in a negative light. The moment you do they call you an incel.

So its fair game to shit on men, but its a sin to bash women. That's reddit, the internet and real life for you. Its the reason subs like this exist. Its one of the few places you are free to critique women without getting banned.

[–]IM_MAKIN_GRAVY1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeaaa exactly. I’m pretty new here after being a feminist for a while. it’s been quite the revelation to see how big the double standard is.

[–]DoTheTraditions180 points181 points  (16 children) | Copy

Holy fuck. I can only imagine what Patrice O'Neal would do in a situation like this. Laugh at her, tell her to shut the fuck up, pay off the Uber fair once home. Start playing video games, order up an escort and pizza that night, and go to sleep a happy man. His happiness is paramount. Then, when the father arrives a few days later, tell him to fuck off and keep his used up daughter and give her away to another man, while joyfully stating that he's now a free man.

[–]TehlorO43 points44 points  (12 children) | Copy

Where. The. Fuck. is everyone finding good escorts? I literally can't find anything but shitty mexican ones where I'm at and they're all on sketchy websites...

[–]the99percent148 points49 points  (5 children) | Copy

Tinder or seeking arrangements. Instagram too. Those models advertising with email accounts are definitely open to escort services, at a price .

[–]TheGweatandTewwible17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

Do Tinder escorts have secret language or something?

[–]the99percent11 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Probably. hahaha.

Another alternative is to join one of those online forums discussing about escort services.

Pretty sure you can find one in your local area and discover that whole other world.

[–]TehlorO0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Where might these forums be hiding out?

[–]tryintofly1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Clearly not on reddit I guess

[–]TheGweatandTewwible0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thing is those websites are shady as shit lol at least where I live.

[–]Russell-Bestbrook0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

You gotta have cash. For $1000 you can get an actual “pornstar” to fuck you.

[–]PhantomRedditor5-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lmfao. Wild racist, but I chuckled. So I’m no better 😂😭🤣

[–]777views10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why even fucking pay for her ride

[–]TheBunBun543218 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ahh Patrice, not a day goes by where I don't think of him atleast once. A true hero that man is. R.I.P P

[–]DoTheTraditions4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same. Also sexual harassment day is approaching. Time to find that lucky lady and ask if she'll suck your dick in the broom closet.

[–]SeasonedRP114 points115 points  (6 children) | Copy

I imagine the advice people gave this poor sap amounted to telling him to grovel and apologize and be thankful he has such a spirited woman, when the only things he should be doing is changing the locks and meeting with a lawyer. After doing that, he should check out the sidebar on this sub.

Some think this sounds made up. I don't. I had something kind of like this happen during the miserable days I was married, and I wasn't BP. My experiences are why I'm skeptical of MRP and don't believe the notion that doing RP on "hard mode" will enable one to be happily married. Things change dramatically once you're locked down. Don't get married or cohabitate.

[–]PhantomRedditor51 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Can you elaborate more. I’m interested. Married guy here, needing to be more RP after being a purple pilled beta bitch boy.

[–]pejnourt2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

In my experience, he‘s right. Marriage is a zero sum game and women have all the leverage. They can divorce, get half of your money, kids, alimony. You can play dread but they have the better cards and they know it.

Your best option is to minimise the damage. If you have no kids, you should separate asap.

[–]tryintofly1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Can't find the link, but did people really say that? Seriously? No one has common sense anymore.

[–]DareToZamora19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think the post got removed. If you scrolled through the comments, there were one or two people saying ‘dude, she’s your wife, forgive her’, but they were mostly downvoted. The prevailing consensus was leave that bitch.

[–]CainPrice201 points202 points  (28 children) | Copy

When a man sucks ass, all it takes is bumping into a better guy she used to know and a few drinks and she'll yell and scream like a crazy bitch when her shitty man gets in her way and cock-blocks her.

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[–]CainPrice131 points132 points  (25 children) | Copy

While her behavior is definitely disrespectful, it's not surprising.

This guy sucks. He has no self-respect, a tiny dick, and lets his wife run roughshod over him while he clings to his mother's skirt and hides behind his sister.

I'm sure he's good to his wife and he works hard and gives her a decent life and all that jazz, but that's not doing anything right. It's just failing to do anything wrong.

Just being non-wrong isn't good enough. That's enough to make a woman sit around until something better comes along, but the second something better is there and she actually feels excitement - someone actually makes her feel something instead of just being non-wrong. She can't help herself.

It's like she's waking up for the first time in a long time. She'll do anything to hold on to that feeling. She's been so unhappy and in a fog for so long that she didn't even realize it.

Logically, sure, she owes her husband some respect and should logically and rationally recognize everything he's done for her and love him and be grateful.

But women aren't logical creatures. They're creatures of feeling. Facts and the scoresheet of goodwill he thinks he should have built up over the years don't buy attraction.

In fact, she feels -trapped- and -oppressed- by all of his points and goodwill. She wants to feel something, and instead she's stuck with this non-wrong guy that logically, she owes her love, and as soon as she meets a guy who makes her feel something and she can't act on it, she gets furious. Her subconscious feels trapped. Tricked. This worthless loser of a man that she feels like she owes wants to put her back in the fog where she doesn't feel anything.

Can you blame her?

[–]Thinkingard110 points111 points  (11 children) | Copy

It’s important to blame her. At the end of the day women need to be held responsible for their choices and dyscivilizational behavior.

[–]Short-changedChad58 points59 points  (0 children) | Copy

The word you are looking for is “degenerate”

[–]CainPrice35 points36 points  (9 children) | Copy

Think about what you're asking.

Should a woman really be required to be faithful, loyal, and respectful to a man, forever, simply because he hasn't done anything wrong and there's nothing technically wrong with their relationship, just because he happened to come along first?

All a man should need to do is come along first, then not screw anything up?

Women are children. You can't hold them responsible for not acting like adults. Society already tried that, women went ape shit, so we gave women freedom and eliminated consequences for them to shut them up. What did they do with that freedom and lack of consequences? They started drinking too much and having lots of casual sex, then complaining more. Live and learn.

[–]Htowngetdown21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

If they decide to marry, then yes they should be required, lol.

[–]ExoticPanther8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lot of men still deep in the blue pill actually do share that ideology in the first paragraph.

To be honest, it’s sad a lot of people are okay with “good enough” anyway, without spouting too much inspirational drivel; why not be the best you can be?

[–]Thinkingard1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I get what you are saying for unmarried women but for married women they definitely should be held to a higher standard and to account for their actions. Civilization depends on strong families and women who decide to take on the burden of marriage need to know the gravity of what they are doing. If they end up settling with some Schmoe then that’s not my problem she has to figure that out and be responsible for who she decides to date and marry.

[–]TheGweatandTewwible2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Feminism in a nutshell. Women and alcohol is... an interesting combination, to say the least. The things I've seen lol

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

and what are you saying we learned?

that we shouldn't listen to women cos they'll complain no matter what?

cos if that's what you're saying we learned, i agree.

[–]CainPrice15 points16 points  (3 children) | Copy

If you listen to a child's complaints and take them seriously and give the child what it wants, you end up feeding your child nothing but pizza and candy and then the stupid kid complains to you about her stomachache, then grows up an unhealthy fatass, then blames her parents for raising her badly and making her fat.

People used to be smart enough to not listen to women and not take them seriously, then women got louder and some idiot thought "Hey, they're equal humans! We need to give them the same shit we have because it's the right thing to do!"

[–]Sobinia0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If women want equality, they should be given equal shit, but only if they earn it like men currently do. No gender (neither men, nor women) should be treated better just because they have a penis/vagina between their legs.

[–]Senior Contributoradam-l0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

some idiot thought "Hey, they're equal humans! We need to give them the same shit we have because it's the right thing to do!"

That idiot really fucked up humanism.

[–]BACONisKEWLEST23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

No more than you can blame a dog for pissing on the rug.

[–]Dick-Wraith1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

He might physically have a small penis, but that doesn't matter. His metaphysical penis is small. That's what caused this whole mess.

[–]_Neon_Shadow_6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This comment is gold. I'd award you but all I have is cash.

[–]Arnoux3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy

Actually I got her side from the beginning. Anything this guy did for her is worthless because they don’t have kids and she did not have the real need of someone taking care of her. Also she blames the husband for not having a kid. The husband might be right the she can’t have kid but natural way for this woman to have kid is try different people when her husband can’t make her pregnant. She already has low (or zero chance) to get pregnant and she is already 33 so her chance of getting pregnant will never be better than now.

I remember I read somewhere that love lasts for 1-2 years because after that period if the woman is not pregnant then she will assume subconsciously that her man might be infertile and she need to find someone fertile quickly before she will get infertile as well.

These things are fine. If couples like this in the past would have lasted forever then the human race would be way less successful. This woman needs to get pregnant by someone else quickly.

[–]Sobinia0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

I heard that love lasts for 4-5 years, because after that period of time, the child is capable of survival on its own. Of course, its life won't be particularly pleasant, but it can at least, say, pick some scraps out of a rubbish bin and not starve to death. In third world countries, there are almost no homeless orphans under the age of four, because until the child hits that age, it's entirely dependant on its parents and will die without their care.

[–]CainPrice1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

People call this the "7 year itch". A marriage typically lasts from 4-10 years, with 7 being a good average.

A woman's best genetic bet is to have kids with multiple men to ensure genetic diversity in her progeny. That increases the chances that her genes go on for many generations. So women are literally hard-wired to get bored after being with the same man for awhile and start noticing other men.

The timing is, as you've noted, based around children. After about 7-ish years of marriage, the kids are probably 4 or 5. They can walk around and don't need to be carried everywhere. They don't require the intensive care that a baby requires. At that point, her husband's paternal investment and help with the kids isn't as necessary. She still needs his money, but she can get that via child support.

So at the 4-10 year mark, typically averaging 7 years, women get the itch to cheat or divorce. They suddenly aren't happy any more.

This timing also usually coincides with a woman's version of a midlife crisis. Around the time a woman is in her mid 30s (really, this ranges from early 30s to mid 40s depending on the woman), she suddenly has this shocking realization that this is her last chance. She will never be pretty and desirable once she's older. If she doesn't make a change and find a new man, right now, this is going to be the rest of her life. This man, this house, these kids, this life. She gives her life a hard look and asks herself "Am I settling? Is this really it? Am I really okay with this being the rest of my life?" Because if she doesn't move on, right now, she's choosing this for the rest of her life. She won't be able to get another man if she gets much older.

[–]Jesusfeminist1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Did you think of all this or you read it somewhere?

[–]RStonePT0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Are you old enough for married friends yet, or enough to see your parents and their friends marriages?

Better yet, ask all your friends whose parents divorced how old they were. I'll bet you find a large amount at 5-7 years old

[–]Jesusfeminist0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Nah I’m a young stallion haha. I just thought it was really interesting, most people wouldn’t put all of that together like that.

[–]RStonePT0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What exactly do you think the point of this place is?

[–]tryintofly0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He has more problems than needing to be redpilled or join MGTOW... he fails to see how he gives up his dignity on a fucking reddit post.

[–]1OneRedSock0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

... that's not doing anything right. It's just failing to do anything wrong.

Elegantly said.

Nothing else to say, really. He's been a good boy just like everyone said he should. I'm sure mommy and sissy agree: he's such a stand-up guy; always so thoughtful and caring. To prove it, he got pet on the head some times, but those slowly diminished. He still got some treats dropped on the ground now and then. But good boys get predictable; good boys get boring.

His world is about to get turned the fuck upside down. Good luck to him; we've all been there.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

her behaviour is worthy of a strong backhanded pimp slap tbh.

[–]Novatonavila38 points39 points  (8 children) | Copy

Looks like a cuckold fantasy for me. I saw many of them here. They all have the same details that make the husband feel inferior to the other guy. The husband always has a small dick. The wife secretly prefers the other guy. The other guy has a big dick. The wife shows to the husband how much she prefers the other guy. Its always like that.

[–]Cristoff1315 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good point. It could be a troll post designed to elicit a response from places like this. It could be cuckold fantasy. If it is a real story, I think the poor guy needs to see a lawyer and get the divorce ball rolling.

[–]Capital_Recognition[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Looking at certain details he puts out there that are unrelated to the story, it’s very unlikely. It’s very specific and so probably true.

[–]smilodoner6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Adding details doesn't make the story more believable. He might just be a good writer. I've seen a few like this that read very similarly and 95% fell for it.

[–]AlleyFrog960 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It just sounds too elaborate to be made up

[–]nayvote1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I guess you've never written much fiction, but this would be incredibly easy to make up.

[–]Novatonavila0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Can you link the original post?

[–]tryintofly0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He did seem overly concerned with how lovely the event was. "On the plus side, we had a very nice night!"

[–]TBtgoat67 points68 points  (0 children) | Copy

Poor guy, hasn’t got zero clue. It seems like most of us didn’t find the pill, let alone swallow it unless some fucked up shit like this happens. Maybe he discovers the map one day

[–]jshtx211785 points86 points  (2 children) | Copy

In Vino Veratas ... Her drunken state is her unfiltered state.

[–]MrNiceGuy308218 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lol. Never heard that term. For me it’s always been... A drunk person speaks the sober mind.

[–]Shooter-Mcgavinn40 points41 points  (0 children) | Copy

In vino veritas means, in wine there is truth.

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[–]StraightShooter201916 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Best comment I've seen in a while. So true.

Life isn't a Disney movie, folks. Power, boundaries and firmness are the only things that women respect.

[–]hiktaka19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

LOL the penis thing kills me inside.

I agree tho about your 'no-excuse' if you're one of the lucky male human finding TRP. It's no coincidental that most (good) TRPers are smart enough to read, think, absorb, and retrospect; not an imbecile, denial, skepticist white-knight beta-boy feminist.

[–]bjcm589115 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

What I gather from this:

- They met when she was 21, and he was 25. He evidently liked her straight away ("smart, beautiful and outgoing") while she was busy chasing the "Johns" of the world who she could have

- They start dating when she's on the other side of 25 and realises her clock is ticking. Alpha rides, beta provides. Check.

- RIGHT on her 30th birthday, they get married. Ding ding ding.

He's worried about losing her, but he'd lost her a long time ago. She just needed the opportunity. I pity this guy. How can you not? His best option would have been to tell her to go to Norm's and fuck John's brains out- but don't come home. I would go home, throw her shit onto the porch and left $50 for a bottle of wine and a cab fare to Johns. Would fucking hurt but he needs to put his foot down and let the garbage take itself out.

Yeah I feel bad for this guy but also feel this strange, creeping relief when I read a story like this because once upon a time, that could have been me. I feel like Neo dodging a bullet.

[–]psychoduckly0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is crazy. Let her buy her own fucking wine, and pay for her own cab.

Use the 50 on a whore or for his own drinking pleasure.

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[–]The-Wizard-of-Oz-16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Never forget. Ever.

True desire cannot be negotiated.

[–]Rkingpin43 points44 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is what blissful ignorance and living in someone elses frame looks like folks

[–]Waitzkin12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some people call ignorance a blessing, this case proves them wrong.

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy

Discount, "sober man's thoughts, drunk man's words" at your own peril, especially when it comes to women because those "thoughts" are actually feelings. In my experience I have never had a drunk girl I was dating talk shit on me, ever. Not bragging but what they do instead is tell me how awesome they think I am.

The closest I ever got to the opposite side was when a girl that has liked me for a long time got drunk on her birthday and in front of her boyfriend went on and on about how much she liked me. The guy just sat there. Nothing happened but it was clear what she was saying.

Suffice to say, she isn't haaaaaaaappy but I don't think it's over. She might fuck dudes behind his back but I bet they both stick around. To avoid the ol' divorce rape, this guy needs to learn some game and hit the gym hard. Maybe he grows a spine during it but I'd bet he wants to stay married over anything else.

[–]Rakosnik0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

i bet youre awesome though you have not been married till 37 to an infertile women who took on a bp dude at her 30 birthday. that would fuck up everyone who did it to himself even more. what a spinning shithole eeh?

[–]bestsparkyalive27 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy

Fuck so much of Reddit is just a toxic echo chamber. I feel for this guy. BP to the max and it’s not even his fault. He didn’t know better.

[–]Arnoux-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

it’s not even his fault. He didn’t know better.

Sorry to offend you and upvoters but why this comment have 20 upvotes? He is 37 years old grown up man. If it is not his fault then the actions of his woman is not her fault either. I tought people here like to take responsibilty and want woman to face consequences etc.

This guy had 37 years to figure out life. It would be different if he was 16 years old. You can’t blame others (always) for your wasted life.

[–]bestsparkyalive0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lol no one is offended mr Reddit overlord. Sometimes here we have sympathy towards another’s struggle because we are aware of how deep BP conditioning can run in a mans life. If I didn’t find the Red Pill I doubt my ways would have changed, I would have stuck to them and been clueless as to why the nice guy keeps getting screwed.

Also we don’t “want women to face consequences.” That’s some toxic little boy shit. Red pilling seems to allow us to let situations naturally be created where we can see the true side of females in relationships. Now if a woman faces consequences because of her actions naturally that’s fine, but remember there’s a lot of dudes who aren’t even close to being on their game, and probably come to this forum and get pissed at women for being shitty when they’re sad excuses of a man.

We say it’s not his fault cause his eyes aren’t opened. When you’re eyes get opened and you still Create the same traps for yourself then it becomes your fault.

[–]PhantomRedditor50 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m not going to even lie to you bro, self-awareness does come to different people at different ages. I’m turning 33 in about a week and a half, and I am finally at the stage of my life where self awareness is a thing. Figuring myself out and who and what I am. It took a long fucking time because I was living in survival mode, but because of life‘s circumstances, it has forced me to sit down and to figure this stuff out.

Myself, I am an outlier. But you are right, 37 is a little old in figuring this stuff out.

[–]mickenrorty11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

Fuck me dead that’s brutal.

FUBAR.

I’ve been in situations where the girl is digging me but her cuck hubby is around, I always avoid them as the idea of being the guy to cuck another guy is just dark, thirsty and gross. I’d hate myself... this John character must be a bit of a sociopath

[–]nayvote3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. The OP bragged elsewhere on this post about fucking married women all the time. We shame women for their degeneracy but this shameless bitch (the OP) gets a free pass? I disagree.

[–]kokoke0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

to be fair, he must also have been drunk and just going with the flow of their apparent chemistry

[–]thernis25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

Whether the post is real or not belies what I consider the most important facet of TRP in clown world:

Marriage... not even once.

[–]TheImpossible122 points23 points  (6 children) | Copy

I'm banned from that sub. I hope someone gave him much needed Red Pill advice.

[–]Whopper_Jr10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

For the love of God, someone needs to slide into his DMs and redirect him here

[–]TheImpossible121 points22 points  (2 children) | Copy

If we do, it'll give the admin an excuse to ban us.. That's the problem.

[–]tryintofly1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

The admin on here? If it's just a ban from where it originated, send me the link, I'll aware him.

[–]TheImpossible10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No, they'd ban the sub for it.

[–]Omnidempotent22 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy

For a woman, being stuck with a beta male is like a man being stuck with a fat chick. Sure, your fatass wife might give good head but if she cock blocked you from a real chance at fucking a tight little 20yo, how pissed would you be?

[–]bmw1999m33 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good point. It's easy to get mad at chicks when we read stuff like this, but if you understand how their brains are wired, you realize humans can't help how they truly feel inside, and it's easy to see how this unfortunate situation transpired. I can imagine the same sense of feeling trapped if the situation's roles were reversed.

[–]PhantomRedditor51 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unless you’re a blue pilled cad and will fuck her anyway behind her back.

[–]ulikunkel539 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Throw her shit on the lawn, send a pic and tell her to come get it.

[–]ibetrynaimprove10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hypergamy is impersonal. Poor guy.

[–]dasCooDawg9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

As a patent of Two kids and a wife. I don’t understand this.... why not fucking leave!!?? Just take the Big L, and learn and get better

Getting dumped by a girlfriend, ok.... getting a divorce, sucks A lot .... but divorce with kids involved, now that is some serious headache that will haunt you on so many levels until you die....

Also, please forward this thread to the guy... he may turn bitter And resentful but he may also get over it and realize some stuff and figure it out

[–]kokoke8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

The saddest part about this story is that this guy is almost definitely going to take her back. In fact its about 90% certain that his trash wife will manipulate the situation and make the guy actually apologize to her instead of the other way round. She's already playing mind games with him by not communicating. Based on what this guy says, he believes that she has a higher SMV than him and he's desperate not to lost his "prize catch". He's already trying to hamster away her behavior by calling her an "ethical person", reiterating that she was drunk and all that other bullshit.

Also he was most definitely her Orbiter for 5 years before they started dating.

I really hope this guy has some solid friends who can help him and force him to not take that whore back.

I feel sorry for they guy, cause he's blue as fuck and if I never learned about the Red, I would probably have reacted similar to him in the same situation.

[–]UbermenschUnicorn23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

I saw this post and immediately thought of TRP. Poor guy, this only strengthens my trust in TRP theories

[–]whatdidshewrite6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

How would you guys react in this situation? I’d love to hear specifically from an EC if they’d be willing to answer

[–]WaspOnAWall7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

No matter how you look at it, the relationship is over. If you put me in this guy's shoes, I would divorce and move on with my life. What other ending could you possibly envision ?

[–]The_Bacon_Reader5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not really anything you can do. It's tragic because the guy has already lost.

[–]Capital_Recognition[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Firstly, you never get married... secondly, you don't become unattractive.

If a bitch still acts up with core TRP principles at work and the two things I listed above, you do NOT react with her in mind. You go talk to another chick, and next this hoe. The end.

However, the guy who wrote this fucked himself on 1 and 2 from jump street... almost definitely does not exercise TRP core principles, and she holds the cards since he gift wrapped his balls when he proposed to her.

[–]bjcm58910 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What's the jump street reference from?

[–]TruthSeekingPerson6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

If you’re a beta male you can’t get married to an alpha widow post-wall woman (wall being 25 years old). If you can’t dictate the terms of the marriage you’re going to get fucked.

This guy should hire a divorce attorney and head to court.

If I were him the basis for the divorce should be the fact that his wife is infertile. I wouldn’t mention her blow up.

[–]30DaystoSolstice7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

Glad to see someone moving the wall to 25 as well. To me, W peak at about 23, 24. By 25 they have already had that one ex. The whore phase follows very shortly. That phase often coincides with a job, more independance, city living etc) At 27/28 they are already banged up, tired, full of issues and opinions ( if educated). At 29/30 they haven't much left in the tank. So they perceive the wall to be at 30, but it really happens at about 25.

I started to think about it when I realized that I was only swipping right on tinder to women under 25 without even looking at their age.

[–]PolukranosWordEater1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. I live in a rural area and the wall hits a touch earlier even by a few years. Sedentary lifeatyles, greasy fried foods, rampant drug use, and women hook up/marry/divorce earlier right out of high school if they don't leave for the city or university. I'd say they aren't LTR worthy after 22/23 maybe?

[–]TruthSeekingPerson0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The odds of finding a non-damaged woman older than 25 are low enough that it's not worth the trouble.

[–]nayvote1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I mean it depends on what you're trying to find them for.

[–]Hjalmbere5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

” I'm still shaking of anger for what she did, and fear that my marriage might be over just like that, with no warning whatsoever.” - No shit.

That guy needs to talk to a lawyer and start securing his assets and prepare for a divorce. Of course without telling his soon to be ex-wife.

He should pat himself on his back over the fact that they don’t have kids. If she has no respect or physical desire for him there’s no fucking point in staying married.

[–]DistinctSense0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

He should pat himself on his back over the fact that they don’t have kids. I

This is a relief at least for the situation he is in.

If she has no respect or physical desire for him there’s no fucking point in staying married.

Are you also saying if kids aren't involved then there's no point in getting married in the first place?

[–]Hjalmbere0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Kids and there are other reasons to get married depending on in which country you live in. It’s my understanding that in some states in the USA the risks by far outweigh the possible benefits due to lopsided marriage laws etc. Heck, if I lived in California I’d probably be scared to even talk to women. I live in a very ”progressive” country but at least we don’t have alimony.

[–]8380atgmaildotcom4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

The game is so over. It's so easy to DM some girl who has pictures with her and her boyfriend with paragraph captions about how she does not have any words to say and how he is amazing and then text me about how it is cold and how her nipples could cut through glass.

The fairy tale is over.

[–]DancesWithPugs3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Uber passenger rating: two stars

Wifey rating: one star

Marriage is over, pack it up. Poor schmuck.

Most ethical person he knows, sure. Maybe one face looks ethical? The other face looks like Skeletor.

[–]Skywave284 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Poor guy. She was drunk and probably meant all of that. Really strengthens the TRP for me.

[–]chankletavoladora4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

100% agree. I saw his post and tried to give him guidance as much as I could to someone that hasnt taken the redpill. Not sure if he got the message. Tried to find it but apparently the story got deleted several times. Most probably by him because he decided to kiss her ass and eliminate any evidence that he asked for help. Poor guy. Dont ever want to be that guy again ever.

[–]5Imperator_Red4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fucking insane how women can do literally whatever the fuck they want. No external check on their behavior.

[–]FaP_corleone9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hats off to the John. Redpill reigns supreme once again.

[–]PhaedrusHunt7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I saw it. Made me sad.

I'm banned from that group for honesty lol

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, I read that thread. That story is fucked. Guy is clearly totally oblivious to how his wife views him and hasn't seen this coming. He clearly still loves her and it blinds him to how she's a pretty awful person and that he needs to bail on that marriage because it's irredeemable at this point.

On the plus side, this sort of story is a good origins story for a RP guy. This could be the thing that pushes him to take the RP. A lot of RP guys used to be this BP and got woken up by a harsh punch in the gut like this.

[–]SpinPlates2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't understand how a 37 year old man can walk through life and not realized that women do not love men the same way men love women. They don't give a fuck about you.

[–]Rudeyyyy6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

I woulda pulled over and kicked her out of the Uber lol.

[–]stevecapw5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would've pulled over, and my Mother would've kicked her out

[–]veggmeister29 points30 points  (14 children) | Copy

this is too outlandish, it just reads like a cuck fantasy and dear lord if it's actually true !

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[–]veggmeister10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

i don't doubt the behavior as much as i doubt the very details of the story, too many details and right buttons (as the other guy pointed out) to be believable

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[–]nayvote0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Could be real, but the "small dick" stuff in front of his family set off my bullshit detector

[–]redsound6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

You would be amazed how much of this shit happens all the time. This is actually somewhat ordinary, things are actually a lot worse. Just picture this: slut leaves soyboy for another man, gets pregnant, the chad dumps the bitch, she asks the cuck to come back, the cuck welcomes both the slut and the bastard baby with opens arms, crying of happiness. I've seen it happen several times where I live.

[–]Bingoslots6670 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

the cuck welcomes both the slut and the bastard baby with opens arms, crying of happiness.

LMAO. You cannot be serious.

[–]fannyfire18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. Reddit is full of so much larping that I hardly believe any of the shit written here. Too many losers with nothing better to do than write cuck fanfiction.

[–]Grimsterr8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

It hits too many buttons to be real.

[–]Capital_Recognition[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

It’s very detailed and thus it’s highly unlikely it’s false. If you read each sentence and think about how it plays out, you can usually get a clue if it’s fake or not. Especially if you look at details, whether they’re relevant or not...

The reveal of his emotions while he goes through the story are also key to knowing that it probably isn’t fake. Just my opinion, but the whole things reads like a true story, and I’ve honestly met some girls who have done much worse... so it really isn’t a shocker either.

[–]CaucasianPanther1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Exactly and the Norms (regional chain) bit grounds it in truth

[–]Capital_Recognition[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, details like that are exactly it... the fact that he says he hasn't been there in years. Who the hell writes a faux account based upon a unpopular restaurant he hasn't been to in years? That would be too weird. When, you would think these TRP guys would know beta's get mowed over all day err day in the world just like this.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

agreed.

it's like a scene from a shitty TV series.

[–]veggmeister0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

it even reminds me of that 4chan multiple sclerosis story, at least try not to make it too obvious

[–]the_green_grundle2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Painful to read. Only because he probably won’t ever come to the correct conclusions.

[–]Strike482 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fucking disgusting. Dude is spineless and his woman is acting out in result. Spent time with an old coworker and decided that her beta bucks wasn't stimulating enough for her as much as she had hoped. Then shamelessly spouts her regret of not taking enough dicks while single and blows up on her spineless man. She'd never spout stupid if she had any respect for him. Absolutely disgusting.

[–]anonymouz3332 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would've just smirked, then left and put her shit outside the house for her when she got home... When she was sitting at the other table. Be gone thot

[–]THEimporter2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Meanwhile John is a redpilled warrior who has learned all the tricks from this page

[–]RPOpenUp2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I just took a look at the sub relationship advice, but holy shit the amount of white knighting is insane there!

The sub just shows how much power women currently have. For example a girl was complaining about something sexual that he did. She didn't like it. Since we are rational here it's not okay to do something against a lady's will.

However the advice that they give her on that sub is just destroying the entire life of that guy. She asked for advice before even talking to him about it... And the redditor in there respond with stuff like yea that's sexual assault. And instead of talking about it with her bf or maybe just leave him if she doesn't like it they immediately want to take it to court... I'm lost for words, this is on so many levels seriously fucked up. Turns out this dude didn't even realise she didn't like it.

[–]UrbanBanger2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck. Poor cunt. He needs a wake up call. That bitch is riding John's (and every other cock) out there.

She was probably getting smashed before this.... If she had the outburst in front of his mum and sister.

AWALT

[–]whatdidshewrite2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

There seems to be a disconnect regarding her behaviour that day and the way he describes her when she’s ‘normal’ which leads me to believe that she has a ton of faults that he either doesn’t recognize or willingly overlooks

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillcad3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Men are pathetic but this is a fake. The small dick story is too much

[–]RavelsBolero1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep, glad I'm not the only one who thinks it's fake.

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

LARP or no LARP, the reaction in the comments is always the interesting part

The narrative is clear

[–]AceMav212 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Post should be Titled “Dear John”🙌🏻

[–]xXSt_JimmyXx3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This poor shmuck has probably put anyone woman who showed him a hint of love on a pedestal that not even an apocalypse could topple, tis sad.

[–]LordFa93 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I pity him, I really do. Not because of the shit happening to him, but because now he's going to be forcibly unplugged and its going to hurt like a mofo

Someone PM this thread to him, wherever he is

[–]RivenHalf3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Being the guy who never commits who usually has his plates come back after dating some chump, been there and done that. It never fails. Girl is with an alpha. Starts thinking she wants commitment. Threatens alpha that she walks or he commits. Alpha of course says bye. She leaves and gets with some beta who commits with no fight at all. Usually is back texting within a month or so. Some never come back. Some take longer. Once you've been on the other side of this though it becomes so commonplace that it's just matter of fact. Women both craze and hate commitment. I remember back in my old days when I would scratch and claw trying to get some women to commit to me immediately after meeting her. Now I'm the one with the carrot on the string and I honestly pray everyday I wish I had learned to flip the script about a decade earlier than I did but then I see stories like this and I'm just glad that I even eventually did. It's eat or be eaten out here. Simple. John is about to eat. How dare a man even entertain the thought of taking a woman like that back after she acted that one in front of his fucking mother. Disgusting. He shoved have pushed her out the moving Uber for that behavior. Oh well, Rest in piece Beta bitch. Another one bites the dust. He wont learn from this either, he'll be back to cucking in no time. I am sure he already did.

[–]krezombie1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Someone please link the damn post before I piss myself

[–]OfficialTechLead1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Feel bad for her, she wasted her youth with this excuse of a man, now its too late for her to get her chad.

[–]Hjalmbere7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t. They started dating when she turned 25. They met when she was 21. He was a beta in waiting while she rode the cc. She failed to lock down an alpha so he suddenly couldn’t believe his luck. ”Suddenly she appreciates me for who I am.”. Bet he made good money too.

[–]KingOfAllWomen1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep. What would a red pilled gentlemen pick out from this text?

At one point she went to the ladies room with my sister, but ended up staying with him at another table.

Interesting.

but I did notice she was drinking a lot more than usual, considering we rarely drink.

Setting up for "I dont' know, It just happened ™, and He took advantage of me!!!

As we walked to the car she made it clear she was not happy about me coming over and breaking up their conversation and called me a fucking asshole

Zero respect for the husband when she doesn't get her way, must be VERY accustomed to getting her way at all times. Not a partnership.

nooooo....I'm going to Norms. I'm hungry".

Until my sister texted me "she wants to go to Norms because that's where John is going. I can see her phone and he's texting her right now".

Real time trickle truth

She started screaming something like "what am I going to do at home? Play around with your little dick? Your little dick does nothing for me. I should've fucked John when I had the chance. It's time I start fucking real men...".

Right in front of the mom and sister. Jesus Christ... Notice how this guy keeps saying what a classy, well educated woman she is. How she's so good with the social graces over and over in the post. It's like he's trying to convince himself as much as the readers...

But she is by far the most ethical person I have ever met, so I don't think she has ever cheated on me, and I don't think she really meant everything she said that night. But I'm having a difficult time getting my thoughts in order, especially because she hasn't contacted me at all.

lol who else thinks she's never cheated on him?

[–]justgotalpha1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Men need to grow a pair of balls and with the help of TRP we are getting there but until then seriously men need to know when things are getting out of order, if a women disrespects me like that publicly we broke up in that very same moment , id take her to her parents house and start to proceed with divorce! Plain and sinple but to avoid divorce you must first not fall for the trap called MARRIAGE

[–]NarrowBath71 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

So is the only good option here to break up with her? I don't see how something like that is not indicative of future cheating (or maybe even past). It's certainly indicative of major problems, but the question is, is the only option here the nuclear one?

[–]Rakosnik0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

there are other options but all of them not good

he should ditch that infertile unhappy woman

either way she will blame him for her unhappiness anyway

[–]d-quik1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

So I went and ended up finding the thread and now even though this thread is highly karma'd (idk what the verb is) and awarded with fake reddit money, the entire thread IS LOCKED AND the original post with the information is DELETED! I messaged the exact mod who deleted it /u/royalyell0w and and this is the trash grade exchange I had with her. I can tell from her actions and messages the gender so yes it is a her.

[–]largepaycheckaddict2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This shit sounds like cuckhold porn fan fiction tbh

[–]Sod_Off_Shotgun2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That guy Norm sounds like a real jerk.

[–]Casd120 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The guy is getting redpilled lmao

[–]Balea20190 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

One of my biggest red pill moments was reading rationale male blog and he had links of a forum where people ask for relationship advice and these sub-reddits are massive red pills

[–]beginner_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Should I be the one to go see her and try to fix things, or should I let her come back on her own terms?

No change locks asap and if you go see her, bring along all her belongings because you know, it's over. And she certainly didn't stay at her parents. That's were John picked her up...

I'm still shaking of anger for what she did, and fear that my marriage might be over just like that, with no warning whatsoever.

Indeed it is over. But your probably the only one for which there was no warning.

For the record, it's not that I can't get her pregnant. She's the one who can't have children,

There is a sliver lining...should make the divorce fairly easy and not completely cripple the guy financially.

[–]mickenrorty0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Has anyone messaged the OP a link to this thread?

[–]Sake990 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How could he be sure that she had not dated him?.... He is definitely her ex.

[–]cyberkrist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If this is real I feel bad for the dude. There really is only one option after this and it’s going to cause him serious stress, depression, and money.

No matter what kind of reconciliation appears to happen it will be superficial. That genie, even for the most blue pulled, isn’t going back into the bottle. Best to sever it now before she generates a scenario where she can more plausibly play the victim.

[–]yes_kid0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I remember seeing this and thinking Thank goodness I found trp/mrp

[–]clavabot0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm seeing so many red flags here, big yikes, thank the gods for my awareness

[–]PepinoSF0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No worries.She will come with some shitty excuse

[–]black4eternity0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't know what to make of it. Should I be the one to go see her and try to fix things, or should I let her come back on her own terms?

Leaving her is not an option he is considering. 🤦‍♂️

[–]razeus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep I saw this and commented on it. I thought of this sub when I was reading. You hate to see it.

[–]JulesReves0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The relationships subreddit just deals with the symptoms of bad LTRs and just covers up the wounds when shit already happened. TRP gives you the cure to the root cause of those problems so you know what to do when this shit happens to you.

Poor guy and god bless TheRedPill in eternity

[–]linkinway0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

omg he still doesn't want to divorce? still thinking she is ethical?! this is the most cancerous guy I have ever come across.

[–]BrightShadowAGT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Man this hits me so hard, Instead of a Drunk outburst for me it was a random text while i was at work.

All i can say is it does get better, Focus on yourself my friend and talk to people even if you dont want to here what they have to say, Let yourself vent.

<3

[–]Endorsed ContributorSKRedPill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

PM the guy and send him over to MRP or askmrp. Let's see if anything works. Maybe he'll be ready a bit further down the road. Hope he's still in one piece by then.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Holy fuck. Wow. What a heartbreaking story where you really gotta feel bad for the guy. Make no mistake about it, the wife has already cheated on him. Might not be with this John guy, but definitely other men.

[–]Kabuki4310 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Mann this whole story was a punch in the gut. This is what brought us here and i m glad I found TRP just in time, else I know I would have been clueless as the guy in the story. I just laughed at the snap story i found this morning.

http://imgur.com/gallery/vANJOwo

[–]Punstatostriatus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So what role do you think alcohol played? Did it changed her or did it remove higher conciousness and let her some put away feelings come up? I ve seen both in people.

[–]newacc4newlife0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wtf was he thinking when he decided to marry a chick that can't even bear children
Dude done did it twice

[–]Luffysstrawhat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like were gonna have another red pill brother soon

[–]Snowpeartea0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

F .... What are you suppose to do in a situation like this? Lawyer up and lift? (Genuinely asking)

[–]Capital_Recognition[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, you just do your best to turn your back to her in the mean time. Remain stoic, and work as hard as you can on yourself while waiting for your lawyer to execute.

Then, become a free man.

[–]letter_of_resignatio0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Late Post best Post.

Why is nobody talking about her age and fact that she is barren? Dude is beta orbiter but she has clear issues. It sounds like she hit a wall and now fact that she cant have children of her own is bothering her. She is also acting very childish for her age, point where her dad is coming to get her stuff. Sounds like she isnt this perfect princess what guy thing she is and has been going issues for while. His crime is not seeing her as she is and how he is acting afterwards.

[–]0kool740 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I, like several others who have commented here, am glad I found this sub so many years ago. In the beginning, I would recoil in shock and horror over stories like this, and it wasn't long after I found this sub that Rollo posted his Saving The Best article. However, after a time, you can become immune to things. As such, my reaction today is much different. Today I just laugh and chuckle. There is PLENTY of evidence out there today of how bad marriage is for men, and this story is but one of a piece of steak dropped off in a pond of pirahnas. I feel no shame in saying I do not feel sorry for this guy at all.

[–]Jetrous0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I know I'm late to the party, but shit like this seem almost fake to me. Not saying people (women) are not capable of it, but in a setting like this, saying "I should've fucked John when I had the chance. It's time I start fucking real men...", seem over the top. If it's 100% real, that's fucked.

[–]berlengas0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

at least she is not fertile thank god she cant be a mother

[–]psychoduckly0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lol. As soon as his divorce is in the works, she'll be pregnant.

[–]Dane500 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, you are in the right place. Grade A advice would be to block and divorce but everyone knows that will be too extreme for you given you’ve just discovered TRP.

Go through the motions you feel you have to.

Some lessons/advice-

1) you aren’t losing a wonderful relationship, you just didn’t know how shitty your relationship was until now

2) this can’t be salvaged. It’s be nml to try but it’s over. This incident was a reflection of bigger issues you probably haven’t faced yet.

3) you are better than this useless, despicable c—nt who behaved that way in front of your mom and sister when she couldn’t pursue the dick she wanted.

You will come out on top. Of that I’m certain. The voyage will be choppy.

All the best.

[–]ProFriendZoner0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

If he had abundance we wouldn't be having this conversation.

[–]Rakosnik0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

marrying an infertile woman. yeah talk about abundance.

[–]5Imperator_Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I hate that she call him a loser. She’s the loser. If she could have married chad, she would have. But she didn’t. She got the best she could

Guess you should have locked down a hot guy with a big cock when you were young and hot instead of riding the CC for a decade. Now you’re an old woman fit for nothing more than a pump and dump.

Too bad. So sad. Stupid whore.

[–]1meerita0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I feel pity for OP since it's one of the classical beta stories. IMHO, now knowing how women act, i would:

  1. Let her do everything she wants.
  2. Follow her to the motel where she will fuck John.
  3. Beat the fuck off the door and catch them in situ.
  4. Tell her she's a whore and look John with a face of "you will see me again".
  5. Leave, and fill divorce.
  6. Secure all the assets.
  7. Share all the lovely videos and photos of her with John on their social medias.

[–]Rakosnik1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

when you play with pigs you will always get dirty

[–]1meerita0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

In the end, John is not guilty but he could just tell her to not enter that danger zone, but John saw him so beta that he didn't care. If the OP was alpha, John would be careful AF and avoid confrontation.

[–]denali4eva-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wonder if the wife is a white American. Obviously it's possible that other races also do this kind of thing but in my experience, it's rare. other races and cultures usually reserve respect for family members especially older ones like the mom.

[–]tryintofly-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Does anyone respect him for telling us he has a little dick, or is it like, dude, have some fucking pride?



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