Thoughts on r/theredpill closing?

Christian_Kong · 2019-10-01T04:32:36+00:00

I don't really have any love for the TRP sub but the policy that is resulting in banning it is either going to open the door to massive hypocrisy or end up banning %70 of subs out there. I am going to go with the former.

How_Interdasting · 2019-10-01T02:05:09+00:00

The TRP's sidebar material and threads, as abrasive as they were, helped me out of a really dark place after contemplating just ending it all in my late 20s. Beyond just sex / women, it helped turn my life around and build a foundation and plan for self improvement.

It is worth having.

crackrocksteady7 · 2019-10-01T07:58:30+00:00

I actually have a tinfoil hat theory that the TRP screenshot from the admins was faked and this is all a big ruse by /u/redpillschool to scare his subscribers into joining his backup site. I just checked his Twitter and he's been advertising his new "social media platform" pretty hard these last few weeks, so the timing is weirdly convenient. "Quick, sign up boys! TRP is going to disappear any second now I swear!"

I haven't seen anything from Reddit admins to say they're banning TRP, and why would they send TRP and none of the other banned subs prior warning?

Hashtag things I spend too much time thinking about when I'm stuck in bed with a fever.

sadomasochrist · 2019-10-01T04:22:36+00:00

lol at liberals and reddit.

Imagine being so terrified of the other side of an intellectual debate that your only solution after starving a community of traffic is to outright black it out.

Pa... thetic.

the-lone-squid · 2019-10-01T01:45:54+00:00

They will just flood into other subs. It's not like the users themselves will go anywhere.

Many will end up here

angels-fan · 2019-10-01T02:04:40+00:00

So... They're banning /r/gendercritical and /r/thefairersex as well, right??

couldbemage · 2019-10-01T05:29:06+00:00

I'm all for a much more aggressive interpretation of what a common carrier is. Which is to say, a phone company can't refuse to serve customers it doesn't like, and large web based complication mediums are important. Large companies are really no different than small governments. YouTube, for example, has more influence on world events than the government of pretty much any third world nation.

SILENTSAM69 · 2019-10-01T01:46:01+00:00

Free speech is about more than just preventing government censorship. If we do not respect free speech among ourselves then we won't care when the go government restricts "their" speech. No one cares until it impacts their own speech.

If we do not demand that companies respect free speech then it hardly even exists.

OatsGYOW · 2019-10-01T00:51:34+00:00

The worthless illiterate donation whores who are running our government into the fucking ground should have been regulating anything of the magnitude of Reddit, Google, or Facebook as public utilities by now.

That may mean speech is even more restricted in some ways, less in others, but an unchallenged oligarchy shouldn't be empowered to arbitrarily dictate what is acceptable and what isn't.

Imagine if the electric company or the water company could pick and choose on a whim who to extend service to. It is just as ridiculous, and people who don't see it that way do not because it is too early on to have the perspective we now do of the basic power/water/etc. services we take for granted

diffdedbed · 2019-10-01T01:13:04+00:00

It's pathetic.

-OpportunityCost · 2019-10-01T03:07:30+00:00

Its just more political bullshit. I don't care because most of the stuff posted on there was stupid but there are far worse subs out there that aren't getting banned because they fit the agenda.

justanothercanuck123 · 2019-10-01T06:47:39+00:00

So is twoxchromosomes getting banned?

Joey_Lopez · 2019-10-01T04:07:05+00:00

This sucks because TRP has helped countless men make the best of a broken post feminist SMP. It probably saved countless men from divorce and/or letting society pressure them into saving a single mom.

The bright side is that TRP has reached a lot of men and is to big to be stopped. The Red Pill will just find another home.

BluesyWeasel · 2019-10-01T07:12:33+00:00

It is just political bias from Reddit as always.

PMmeYourHopes-Dreams · 2019-10-01T11:22:47+00:00

They should also ban the feminazi subs then.

boomcheese44 · 2019-10-01T16:09:03+00:00

TRP references a lot of great content while simultaneously producing a lot of dogshit. Blatant and baseless sexism aside, a guy made a post the other day encouraging young men to quit their jobs. The argument was that working a job you don't like isn't "alpha." Whatever. Sucks that TRP is getting shit treatment but at the same time maybe we can replace it with something better

handmade_dragon · 2019-10-01T17:15:17+00:00

Free speech is about government censorship and not getting fined or thrown in jail for having unpopular opinions. If congress shut down the red pill, that would be another story.

Reddit is worried the sub is a breeding ground for the Eliot Rodgers of the world. In light of events like incel violence, you would think the community and the moderators would make an effort to promote civil discourse and moderate the dogmatic, bitter, hate filled rants. They didn't do that, which was very irresponsible and short-sighted of them.

Any sub that indirectly causes someone to commit an act of mass violence will be looked at, regardless of its political leanings

rus9384 · 2019-10-01T04:40:15+00:00

Eh. I dislike TRP, but if they shut down every sub full of idiots...well, they wouldn't exist. Let the whining twatwaffles have their platform, and allow the bitchy female mirror images to do the same...otherwise, cancel both...anything else is discriminatory.

ontherailstoday · 2019-10-01T04:40:50+00:00

"I think the question is, do large corporations — like Reddit — have an obligation to facilitate free speech? "

No. Especially not in an overall online environment where other spaces to talk in are cheap and readily available.

If a moderator bans you or deletes your post or comment because you're talking shit the moderation team thinks is counterproductive, tough luck.

If your favorite subreddit gets locked because Reddit didn't want them to be seen as representative of the stuff you find on reddit, tough shit.

If they take your favorite subreddit down completely, suck it up buttercup.

If you're at a friend's place and your friend hints with increasingly more requests to "stop that" and "don't do that" and "stop saying" that you need to stop trying to aggressively convert all their other friends to veganism/manosphere/feminist/flat earth/MLM/antiglobal warmimg/reform the world bank whatever shit because it makes for an unfun party and then you find ways to still be annoying that way without actually breaking any specific rules rules, and your friend walks you to the door and tells you that your night at their place is over, then you don't have to go home but you can't stay there.

SunflowerBurst · 2019-10-01T01:14:17+00:00

Just showing that freedom of speech is dead on the internet.

poppy_blu · 2019-10-01T01:49:33+00:00

And how many of you posting diatribes about “free speech!” were backing Donald trump when he demanded the nfl fire players for taking a knee during the anthem?

YetAnotherCommenter · 2019-10-01T09:02:00+00:00

I think its pretty uncontroversial to suggest that Reddit has probably acted within its rights, but just because someone has a right to do X does not mean it is morally right for them to do X.

Firstly, a lot of comments here seem to take a narrow understanding of "free speech." Whilst it is technically correct to say that this move doesn't violate free speech, "free speech" is deeply interconnected with several important issues like the dangers of unquestioned cultural orthodoxies, the 'tyranny of social custom,' and vigorous competition in the marketplace of ideas as an effective means to truth. Take a read of John Stuart Mill's On Liberty for more.

In other words, "free speech" has a cultural layer to it. A climate of open discussion and debate, where orthodoxies can be challenged and pluralism functions as a means to truth. This is valuable, too. And preventing government censorship is an essential means to the preservation of this value.

But that doesn't mean legal protections for the freedom of speech are the only aspect of free speech, or the only important aspect of free speech. In addition, as many people have pointed out, cultural values are deeply influential upon politics: how can legally enshrined freedom of speech survive when society thinks that an open climate of debate and discussion is a negative thing, or that orthodoxies must remain beyond the scope of criticism, or that pluralism in the marketplace of ideas is deeply dangerous to the most vulnerable among us?

To treat free speech (understood purely in legal terms as freedom from other people and/or the government being physically violent, coercive or fraudulent towards you in response to what you say) as sacred, yet to have no concerns whatsoever about platforms instituting highly restrictive speech codes, is therefore inherently unstable. Its a case of what Ayn Rand called the Stolen Concept Fallacy; if you don't value a culture of open discussion/debate, if you don't value pluralism and if you don't value dissent as a necessary check on the tyranny of orthodoxy, you logically undermine the case for legal protection of free speech in the first place.

Now I've got that issue out of the way. My position, as a matter of political philosophy, is that Reddit should either NOT do this, or it should be exceptionally transparent and blunt about the exact scope of content it is prepared to accept upon the platform, and state this in the ToS, and apply this consistently to everyone.

If they want to become a leftist-only website they should have to outright say so. They need to stop dancing around the issue and be open about their biases.

Anything less than this, at this point, counts as wide-scale consumer fraud. Yes, Reddit should have (in my view) the right to complete freedom of association. But Reddit is a business. Reddit needs to honor its contracts with its customers. Part of this is specifying all of the contract's terms in exact words.

If people want to establish "leftists only" social networks, or "rightists only" social networks, they should be able to. But no social network should be able to position itself as a neutral entity when they are in fact selectively banning content on the basis of viewpoint.

Onto the purely political question. I'm a libertarian and so I am absolutely against treating facebook and twitter as public utilities. They aren't, and they aren't natural monopolies either; as two of the founding scholars of platform economics (Rochet and Tirole) point out, multiple platforms can coexist so long as the cost of being on a platform is cheap. There's also an important point: people will often use multiple social networks, some of which cater to specific interests of theirs, and others which are more 'mainstream.' Most people who use both Fetlife and Facebook don't want the content of the former to be visible upon the latter and vice-versa. In other words, as long has human beings have multifaceted personalities, and incentives to present different facets of themselves to different audiences, there is a scope for a plurality of social networks.

So I don't think antitrust is justified here, and I don't think we're dealing with a classic case of market failure. What we're dealing with is really a case of wide-scale consumer fraud, where social networks are trying to posture as much less restrictive than they actually are.

I think the solution... like the ultimate long term solution... is to amend or revise the Communications Decency Act. Section 230 protections are granted to platforms because the platform itself shouldn't be held responsible for content it does not control. I agree with this basic premise, however there is a "sliding scale" at issue: how much control over content does a platform need to exert before it becomes a publisher (and thus can be held responsible for the content on its website)? How much can a platform "curate" before it ceases to be a platform?

I think we could possibly address these questions by differentiating between three kinds of websites: "publishers," "free platforms" and "curated platforms." A free platform is defined by having absolutely zero restrictions on content which is legally permissible under United States law (in other words, if the statement is permissible under the First Amendment, it must be allowed to be posted onto and remain upon the platform). So basically anything which isn't legally-defined harassment, fraud/coercion, or incitement to imminent lawless conduct, or 'obscenity' (which is so loosely defined that even lactoklismaphilia fetish films can pass the legal bar to count as free speech). End-users of the platform could still block other users or report other users for posting content which doesn't meet the 1A threshold.

But a "curated platform" is defined by having restrictions which go beyond what is prohibited on a "free platform."

As I see it, a curated platform should indeed be able to set whatever policies it wants. However, in order to receive S230 protection such a platform needs to not only make these policies clear and explain those exact policies to the satisfaction of the government, but it must act in accordance with those exact policies and do so consistently, and in the event of being found to not be operating in accordance with those policies the curated platform should be prosecuted for consumer fraud and have its S230 protections temporarily revoked until the curated platform has moved back into compliance with its declared policies.

I have my share of distaste towards TRP. But I still think it is frankly awful that Reddit is banning them.

iceicle999 · 2019-10-01T09:23:23+00:00

Reddit is a horrible website, but I've been around online enough to see so many things change but remain the same. There's a reason why so many people just refuse to use reddit. It shouldn't surprise anybody that a website that has the type of user base reddit has would target any content that it's users disagree with. It's par for the course.

persceptivepanda26 · 2019-10-01T09:37:44+00:00

This is a great way to get this sub banned

rekkt_jpg · 2019-10-01T11:04:30+00:00

Reddit does not have to facilitate free speech. It's a privately owned corporation. They set their own rules and have the right to adjust them. Complaining about "free speech" on a privately owned platform is like going into someone else's home and thinking you're entitled to eat out of their fridge.

Hydrakeen · 2019-10-01T12:10:09+00:00

Read the sidebar 7 years ago and never really spent any time with the core posters that keep up and keep posting.

Whatever its quarantine reason it effects no one who want the info in a negative way IMO.

Silly statement either way. The information is out there.

My question is are hardcore female dominant subs getting quarantined?

It's a strange concept.

illegallad · 2019-10-01T16:14:11+00:00

I didn't like the red pill, I thought the sub was full of tryhards. What I don't like is all of the "moderation" appears to only go one way on reddit. You have some really crazy leftist subs that are just as bad as braincels and trp (and often worse) that aren't penalized at all. Much like with the media, all of the "mistakes" tend to go one way.

HalfysReddit · 2019-10-01T16:28:00+00:00

IMO Reddit doesn't owe anyone anything, including free speech. Free speech means you won't go to jail for saying something, it doesn't mean you will be given access to a platform.

I think TRP had some value, as myself and many others did genuinely benefit from it. But I also think TRP had a lot of issue, and ultimately it's a very logical decision for Reddit to censure its most provocative communities.

It's not like people there don't have anywhere to go, I'm sure there's been at least a half-dozen TRP spinoffs over the years. They just won't enjoy the consolidation and convenience that Reddit provides.

CatchPhraze · 2019-10-01T04:33:03+00:00

If they wanted to stay open, maybe not calling woman sluts and belittling them as children shouldn't have been on the sidebar.

Saying woman can be as shallow as men isn't hate speech, calling them sluts liars and children as an entire group is though.

The victim style wording in that post is proof TRP is WAY less about "owning your shit" like they claim and WAY more about blaming their situations on outside factors. It was a toxic waste dump with a few good self help books thrown in at bottom if you wanted to go diving though radioactive sludge to find them.

Bleh.

angels-fan · 2019-10-01T03:15:05+00:00

If the goal is to deradicalize people, the solution isn't to ban the sub. The solution is to not allow those subs to ban anyone.

Let voices of reason debate the other side without silencing them.

This goes for all the feminist subs that ban anyone who dares confront the dogma and gets banned.

largepaycheckaddict · 2019-10-01T04:09:09+00:00

IM SO GLAD THAT MISOGYNISTIC RIGHT WING SUB IS SHUT DOWN. THE FUTURE IS FEMALE. HAIL GRETA HAIL OUR PEOPLE.

mylifesux62 · 2019-10-01T01:45:34+00:00

Im red pilled but i gave up long time ago. This world is full of feminist is a lost war

poppy_blu · 2019-10-01T01:36:56+00:00

I’m never a proponent of banning speech simply because it makes people uncomfortable.

At the same time, I’m sure if I started a sub called r/WhiteDevils and it grew to 200k followers and a black dude drove a van into the crowd at a Thomas Rhett concert y’all would be singing a different tune.

Censorship is bad. But I can’t shed too many tears for privileged western white men finding out for the first time in history what everyone else has known forever — what it’s like to be told sit down and shut the fuck up. And I think if the lily white manosphere had chosen to adopt a little more humility and honesty about their own reality that this might have played out a little differently.

FairlyNaive · 2019-10-01T08:00:24+00:00

Im really *really* glad that i managed to consume most of the stuff there before the ban.

matrixpush · 2019-10-01T09:20:07+00:00

1984 has become reality in 2019.

j3wbacca996 · 2019-10-01T13:24:09+00:00

I think the best days of the TRP was 2012-2014, lots of people would even say before that was the “golden age”, but for the past couple years that sub has been kinda cringey, just dudes bitching about women.

Although that isn’t to say that OG RP principles aren’t true, they are, I just find most people on that sub don’t hold true to those values anymore. I will say though, is that all this is going to do is get them to think more that “ ‘they’ don’t want you how to be good with women”.

escapethesolarsystem · 2019-10-01T13:54:22+00:00

I think you might be over-thinking this. Think about it from the authoritarian radical left perspective. TRP is a space for men to learn some stuff and self-improve. In the sexist, misandrist hate mindset of the the radical left wackos running reddit - men = oppressors so men's space = space where oppression happens. Of course they "need" to shut it down.

Like the Nazis in the 1930's (I know, I know, Godwin's law...), reddit administration needs to keep up the appearances of following the rules, so they draw it out like it's a "process" as if they "gave them a chance" and were just "enforcing our policies and procedures" when in fact they had already decided to close down the sub a long time ago.

As for the larger question of do private companies need to respect free speech, kind of. At least in the United States, private companies hosting content on the internet can choose one of two frameworks to exist under, the publisher framework or the platform framework. If they are a publisher, they can have a political bias and promote whatever they want, but they also are 100% responsible for all content on their website, including potential libel, copyright infringement, etc. If they are a platform, they can wash their hands of any legal liability, but they cannot promote a political bias or agenda and must allow a free and open forum on their platform with no censorship.

Too long, websites like Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, YouTube, etc have been trying to have it both ways, pushing a political agenda while claiming protections as a platform. This means they are already in violation of US federal statute now and have been for several years at least. However, due to lobbying influence and the weakness of the US government when it comes to enforcing laws against giant corporations, they have gotten away with it.

[deleted] · 2019-10-01T13:54:54+00:00

Im sure Reddit has a right to do this, but even as a feminist woman I don’t think it’s a good idea. 1) I don’t really like the way that TRP portrays women but I don’t think it incités violence. Every post I’ve seen has been kind of the opposite; like « don’t do anything that can get you in trouble with the law, cover your ass ». Incel forums are a bit different imo because there’s a lot more outright hatred 2) I think a lot of the self improvement advice in TRP is good for men 3) I think that banning TRP will contribute to the « feminism run amok » narrative which isn’t ideal for women 4) Barbara Streisand effect will probably amplify TRP wherever it relocates but it probably with more emphasis on the shittier more anti women aspects :(

unicorns- · 2019-10-01T15:21:58+00:00

My thoughts on the matter are the same as my thoughts on any subreddit getting quarantined or banned:

Reddit is a private company, they are free to allow or disallow any content they want on their site, for a good reason, bad reason, or no reason at all. They don't have to be fair or unbiased in deciding which subreddits to ban. The site is free to use and costs you nothing, so you are not entitled to access any subreddit. If you don't like Reddit's policies, you are free to not use the site.

gasparddelanuit · 2019-10-01T22:45:36+00:00

Apparently, the ban notification TRP received was a mistake on the part of Reddit. TRP received a follow-up message from Reddit apologizing for the mistake and saying that it was just their intention to alert TRP to the updated Reddit policy, so that they could make sure that they were compliant with it.

AggravatingTartlet · 2019-10-01T01:38:59+00:00

They're already elsewhere, right?

I'm not a fan of banning free speech. But there might be legal concerns for reddit if some of the membership are white supremacists, which some of the red pill are. Because they could be radicalizing people.

Such as:

"The suspect, John Earnest, a self-described white supremacist and anti-Semite, has been charged with murder and attempted murder for the Saturday attack on the Chabad of Poway synagogue in southern California, in which one person was killed and three others injured. He also associated himself with a male supremacist ideology.

Authorities believe Earnest posted a manifesto on the online message board 8chan before the attack, in which he mentions the red pill movement, a group associated with anti-feminist and misogynist views, men’s rights activists, and “incels,” or involuntary celibates."

https://thinkprogress.org/no-coincidence-california-synagogue-shooter-john-earnest-posted-about-the-red-pill-movement-aa46b31c01ad/

ColCrin · 2019-10-01T02:25:35+00:00

I knew they'd ban TRP the moment they banned braincels. Now the biggest red pill and black pill subs are gone.

The Blue Pill won.

Tomatoccino · 2019-10-01T09:03:05+00:00

Every liberal and libertarian loves the cold hand of the market until it moves against their desire. Funny, that.

hired_field_hand · 2019-10-01T02:24:12+00:00

I think with the last couple of mass shootings, the intel communities are realizing that there is a tie between incels and mass shooters.

As people pick up on this, places like reddit (and others) are terrified of having any link to a place that facilitates incels and their ideas for fear of being culpable. Incels are on trp, so trp has to go.

At least, that's my tinfoil hat theory.

MinuteBenefit · 2019-10-01T01:55:09+00:00

What a great day. Now TRP can finally fade into obscurity with its aging userbase. No more recruiting from Reddit.

Hennythepainaway · 2019-10-01T02:27:15+00:00

Can't believe they're actually closing it. Reddit is a private company so they can do whatever they want, but I do think this is a pretty shitty move. I hate this sort of thought policing.

Wonder if this sub will get the boot

downvotesanimals · 2019-10-01T02:54:26+00:00

To me, bans tend to suggest fear of what the one being banned might have to say.

Pontifex_Lucious-II · 2019-10-01T02:56:03+00:00

Reddit is a private company. Let them do as they like.

They cannot claim to be a free speech platform though. Clearly some opinions are too “offensive” “enabling” “pick your adjective”.

Why doesn’t Reddit tell their critics to go fuck themselves? It’s a platform, not a screening process.

Sorry it was a platform, it’s now a screening process.

_Anarchon_ · 2019-10-01T03:59:42+00:00

Red has it's place, just like blue...that's why I'm purple. I don't know anything about them shutting it down, but if they do I think it's just bullshit censorship. There's not too many places currently left on reddit that allow speaking truth about the current protected species that is woman.

soggycephalopod · 2019-10-01T02:47:02+00:00

Reddit houses all sorts of controversial opinions. As long as they're not actively inciting harm, I think it's stupid and oppressive to censor people. I don't know the history or the reasoning, though--maybe there is a direct link to real-world harm. *shrug*

87AudreyHorne · 2019-10-01T08:35:23+00:00

Can you give more info? Doesnt reddit first shut someone down and then announces it?

I dont think highly of trp (they are the type of people I'd happily avoid), but I am never happy about censorship. Even if I had some huge issue with them, I think that at the point where you demand something to be shut down, you're actually showing it threatens you.

Mrapocalisse · 2019-10-01T09:59:53+00:00

The Red Pill is one of the reasons we have toxic incel communities and incel shootings

Not to mention many marriages destroyed by it and countless other abuse.

Fuck.Them.

Every single "good advice" thread that wasn't about manipulating women that was/is on there contains info that can easily be found elsewhere too

Groom yourself,be reliable,try to improve,mantain solid social relationships,lift weights/do sports,be assertive etc etc are all good to advie someone who migt need help,but they do not justify the truly toxic view of women these assholes had,every single one of them.

DevilishRogue · 2019-10-01T14:31:22+00:00

The changed rules do not appear to remotely touch on the TRP subreddit. It would not have been difficult for reddit to change the rules specifically to focus on TRP had they so wished by arguing the misogyny is power plus oppression angle so popular on campus these days. That they've not done so either means TRP isn't scheduled to be removed this time around or they are going to do so hypocritically. A TRP is still around at the time of typing I hope it is the former.

SlimLovin · 2019-10-01T14:56:35+00:00

Good.

PadThai42 · 2019-10-01T14:59:43+00:00

It needed to happen... the misogynist view toward women would be no different than whites bashing blacks and making generalizations about an entire group. Hopefully TRP can make distinctions and treat cases on a case by case basis and not serve anyone as a whole.

PadThai42 · 2019-10-01T15:22:24+00:00

The moderators did a poor job in monitoring the subreddit. Calling women sluts, whores, and saying “she isn’t yours, it’s just your turn.” No matter how “good” the community is, you can’t say “free speech,” and not expect consequences.

sunshinecentered · 2019-10-01T18:44:58+00:00

The most heinous disgusting horrible content I see reposted from reddit is always from the red pill it seems. I’m not surprised if they’ve violated the rules but tbh I don’t know the rules that well

spectan · 2019-10-01T20:26:12+00:00

Regardless of my opinion, it shouldn't be closed.

There is literally a female equivalent subreddit, and that has not received any attention from the moderators at all yet you see many of the same posts with genders switched.....

Bntt89 · 2019-10-01T22:01:59+00:00

Is it really that suprising, the community has ties to alt right ideologies, so I mean it isn't unreasonable that it would get removed.

ChadThundagaCock · 2019-10-02T00:21:28+00:00

It got me over an ex and back in the game around 2015. I was 23. Under a different username. It'll be sad to see it go. But it gave me what I needed. I'm ok with it going. TRP is about acceptance. You have to kind of accept in this current political climate men's spaces will never be ok the same way women's spaces will be. And that's ok. Women are more delicate than men. They need more support than men do.

leftleafthirdbranch · 2019-10-02T06:05:51+00:00

Red pill has always had free speech, you took the platform for granted. You act like this is a reddit admin decision for money but the reason it's a decision they can make for money is because it's what the majority of reddit users want: people like Red Pill gone. Whether they know it or not, whether they care about red pill specifically or not, the kind of shit red pill is about is not what most people are about and the manosphere has beyond lost any semblance of mainstream credibility. This is the beginning of the true decline, of Red Pill into internet spaces currently occupied by furries and truthers.

[deleted] · 2019-10-03T03:45:59+00:00

A male space getting shut down? Another day another dollar.

Male spaces are not allowed to exist. They either get shut down or invaded by females (Boy Scouts, stereotypical nerdy activities) and run into the ground.

Edit: I know the ban isn't going into effect, but you know the admins are itching to shut it down. If r/mensrights wasn't astroturfed by feminists and blue pillers to make it a shithole of bruh moment memes and soulless complacency it would also get shut down.

prostate-apostate · 2019-10-01T01:36:48+00:00

Seems really stupid considering it has very low activity mgtow , braincells bluepill are much more active , it doesn't seem fair or make sense .

[deleted] · 2019-10-01T01:43:47+00:00

I think Reddit was cowardly for not nuking it instead of quarantining it.

darudeboysandstorm · 2019-10-01T01:48:02+00:00

You wanna know what I believe?

I think its going to further separate ideas creating greater echo chambers and further radicalizing the individuals who participate in their respective environments.

Adding fuel to the fire as opposed to putting out the flames.

Its hard to say if the people regulating Reddit realize that or not though, and thats a more interesting question.

flyinghorse1 · 2019-10-01T04:40:34+00:00

Its horrendous - most of its about self improvement and how to improve dating life with practical advice. I think they are cynical in that they say women are hypergamous (when in reality tons of women marry absolute losers and they do date down), but even though they believe that its no problem and its not like they are inciting violence or anything.

goatismycopilot · 2019-10-01T01:54:39+00:00

I was never in favor of a ban because the super dumb and wordy ones show up here.

Title	Thoughts on r/theredpill closing?
Author	leftleafthirdbranch
Upvotes	73
Comments	482
Date	October 1, 2019 12:47 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/dblc0d/thoughts_on_rtheredpill_closing/
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