For men and women: If you attracted a Red Piller or FDSer would you pursue a relationship?

Gravel_Roads · 2022-02-01T23:42:50+00:00

I don’t get along with people who can’t use nuance so probably not

NockerJoe · 2022-02-01T23:39:33+00:00

If we actually click obviously she must not be too into it because theres no way I'm starting every interaction and paying for every date because thats terrible grounds for a relationship.

chalkandapples · 2022-02-01T23:39:56+00:00

No, because I can go and look for a similar relationship with a bluepill person instead. I don't think anyone is irredeemable, and I do think lots of redpillers aren't actually evil people, but life kind of fed them into that funnel. But there's no reason for me to try roll the dice and put in that much effort to change someone, when I can just pursue someone that is already displaying qualities that I want.

figuringMylife · 2022-02-01T23:57:16+00:00

a TRP man would never be into me and i go a little against the grain of what they believe a woman’s nature is so i think it’ll be pretty chaotic

TomorrowsWar · 2022-02-01T23:41:52+00:00

No thanks. I click with most guys I meet, no need to put myself in a bad situation for some fleeting chemistry

TemperateSloth · 2022-02-01T23:58:27+00:00

Absolutely not bro. Anyone who has thought this deeply about relationships has lost the ability to be a true romantic. They’re too analytical for the real, irrational love upon which a marriage must depend. At any time, they could sit down and realize they can get a better deal and move on from you, assuming they don’t employ any number of the manipulative tactics they gleefully share amongst themselves. Notice how I can say all this without even differentiating between the two?

The key is to achieve your final form and support both TRP and FDS. Use the measures they offer, the counter-measures they design for the other sides’ measures, and then create your own counter-counter-measures on top of it! You’re an unstoppable force of heart break.

OfCatandPagan · 2022-02-02T00:00:03+00:00

If a Red Piller showed interest in me it would mean I'm giving off the impression that I'm weak, easily manipulated, easy to get in bed and stupid. I would immediately alter my behavior or manner of dressing to prevent it from happening ever again.

If that wasn't the case, I would still be way too suspicious as to why this man was into me.

If an FDSer was into me that would go nowhere because I don't hate the men in my life nor do I rate men as low value just for not having a certain amount of money.

Savierdua · 2022-02-01T23:36:05+00:00

I think it’s good in a regretful way because it gives me an easy way to filter damaged people (sorry, but that’s invariably the kind of people these methods attract).

RabbitNRaccoon · 2022-02-02T00:08:31+00:00

I would not consider dating any man that was small minded enough to cling to and associate with any flawed ideology like the RedPill.

Does the RedPill make some relevant points? Sure.

Is alot of it laughable bullshit? Yes, it is.

So just pick out the good points and throw the rest away. No need to call yourself a RedPiller.

The same for FDS. They have some really good points hidden under a mountain of misandry. And I can't respect women too stupid not to recognize that and distance themselves from it.

In conclusion, I simply don't like influencable people.

houstongradengineer · 2022-02-01T23:48:31+00:00

I'd wonder what in the hell is so special about me that some TERPer seems to be interested in sharing with me the serious relationships and low sociosexuality upon which I base my life. But if we already clicked? Why not? I'd investigate what I found out, probably. I'd look for red flags as usual, and get a read on what's really going on with him to learn more. There's lots of different men on TRP. Before getting serious, I would want to know his genuine views in and out. That would have to be worked towards early on.

TodTheRod01 · 2022-02-02T00:03:39+00:00

Honestly i couldnt put up with an FDS....so it would never get to the relationship stage

razormachine · 2022-02-02T00:41:11+00:00

Woman which is true to FDS would vet me anyway because I don't treat random women as queens.

So that problem would take care of itself.

over348 · 2022-02-02T00:51:15+00:00

Nah, FDS users openly said they want short men euthanized on multiple occasions...so I'd steer clear

goneaway2thewind · 2022-02-02T05:29:31+00:00

Most women are FDS whether they know it or not. FDS women are just unapologetic.

Am I looking for a relationship at all knowing so? Not really, but it's moreso that I already put so much energy into relationships that I neglected myself too much to continue. Maybe if I'm so bored and so wealthy I will value it, but making a woman happy isn't my priority at the moment.

Federal_Bat_5355 · 2022-02-02T06:26:38+00:00

If me and this person clicked, then they probably are in those subs for good reason. I personally don't agree with how extremist those subs are, but I do think that seeing things from their point of view might help broaden my horizons in terms of morality and goals. That person would probably feel similar even if they had different conclusions about things. People heal from different things and, as long as they come out a better person and continue to try to be even better, I accept that.

goatismycopilot · 2022-02-01T23:53:30+00:00

I think it is very unlikely that a TRP man would be a genuinely nice guy. I get the impression a lot of TRP men and purple men enjoy being assholes and enjoy the reactions they get and get enough positive outcomes that they stick with it.

So, no because it will not happen.

livs4dietdrpepper · 2022-02-01T23:56:02+00:00

sarkington · 2022-02-02T00:03:31+00:00

No. Why would I want to invest in someone who thinks of me as an opportunistic sociopathic exploiter or some weird pedestalized exception? That’s not a good start for either of us, and I don’t do rehab

iamthemovie1992 · 2022-02-02T01:18:59+00:00

How would I know? Like do I ask “are you an FDSer?”Idk why or how it would even come up in conversation, unless they say something really shitty like what the incels in drag say. But if they’re down to say it, then I guess I’d have to rethink it if someone is really here thinking that shit about my gender. I’d still hook up with them if they’re hot though, no doubt about that, there’s no ideology around that would make me not want to if I think they’re hot.

SeaSquirrel · 2022-02-02T02:36:07+00:00

I don’t make enough for an FDSer

PlayfulLawyer · 2022-02-02T06:54:01+00:00

Nah I would not be with an fds woman, I like peace and good energy in my household and a woman like that would be anything but, not to mention I would have to reflect on myself and what vibe I give off that a loser like that would think that I'm an easy mark for her bullshit lol

wejaow · 2022-02-02T14:35:13+00:00

I date black women pretty much exclusively. So, if I met one who was on FDS.. First thing I’d ask is if they were fine with someone calling black men “inherently low value” on that sub.

Edit: to add to this, I’d also wonder why a black woman would align herself with terfs, transphobes and Susan b Anthony apologists. But hey, that’s just me.

LiftSushiDallas · 2022-02-02T00:35:34+00:00

It depends on the ideas this red pill man has. If he believes "AWALT," and "women are children" and "men can cheat and women cant," then no.

If he believes that men and women are biologically different, and polarity in relationships are good, and that one should have frame and boundaries, and that being fit and financially secure is important, then yes.

TThrowaway144 · 2022-02-01T23:51:28+00:00

Hell no. FDS women are extremely toxic and LV. Also they are for the most part extremely unattractive physically, obese, middle aged++ and have a long track record of being attracted to garbage men. How do i know this? They tell on themselves. When you read through their posts many will actually describe themselves with cute euphemisms: “i am not conventionally attractive”, “i dont fit the patriarchy’s beauty standards.”, “BBW”, “i am currently in therapy for my ptsd/add/trauma”, “twice divorces from LV scrotes”, “i used to sleep around but now i will make the next guy wait 6 months”

Yeah thanks but no thanks.

logiauser · 2022-02-01T23:47:16+00:00

Depends on how reasonable they are. I would judge the person as an individual and see whether they can be open minded to non-FDS ideas.

sine120 · 2022-02-02T00:19:18+00:00

Ha, I don't think I could attract an FDSer. Granted they have a loooong list of disqualifiers, but I'd probably trip a dozen of them by date 1.

TryLambda · 2022-02-02T00:26:26+00:00

Unfortunately most women in society use FDS techniques, hence why they are driving away men in hordes, lots of men use mgtow is the answer

Barely-moral · 2022-02-02T00:30:43+00:00

I have nothing against women that use/follow FDS. As long as I am getting what I want from her she will get what she wants from me

ChiBron86 · 2022-02-02T00:36:26+00:00

lol talk about an oxymoron. People who post on FDS wouldn't be on FDS to begin with if they were attractive.

Watch_the_backflip · 2022-02-02T01:12:37+00:00

If she were a subscriber to FDS, I'd not have another date with her. It's a toxic place where a bunch of sad single girls encourage women to develop traits that make them unsuitable to be wives or romantic partners.

TheRedPillRipper · 2022-02-02T04:02:21+00:00

How do you proceed

As normal. If anything it’s another facet we can share. My partner’s a firm feminist. We disagree often. We also have great, heated discussions that absolutely help us grow. Learn. Bond. It’s not the strategy that’s the issue. It’s how it’s employed.

From what I see of FDS; at it’s roots it’s simply advocating for women to have standards. That’s a good thing. It might get lost occasionally, in the noise of Misandry. Doesn’t negate that fundamental value.

Godspeed and good luck!

RealNiceLady · 2022-02-02T13:15:26+00:00

I'd date them out of desperation.

Yupperdoodledoo · 2022-02-02T02:16:38+00:00

The only red pill types I’ve known in person were either super angry/serious/misanthropic or considered "creeps." So I have never and would never even be in the position of starting to see them romantically. But if that did happen, I’d end the interaction the moment they said anything RP. I once had a guy tell me on a first date that he thought women should be homemakers and I just got up and walked out.

wonka__vision · 2022-02-02T00:44:23+00:00

From the limited reading I have done on FDS, they seem very abrasive, entitled and delusional.

I have no desire for someone like that in my life. Despite what they think of themselves, I doubt they have anything to offer other than a vagina, if even that... which is why they are single.

I have never known a decent feminine women who was involuntarily single. These women don't have problems attracting good men.

prettymuchredpilled · 2022-02-02T00:14:14+00:00

Given the fact that FDS women tend to be unattractive and/or undesirable, it's a very unlikely scenario that I actually meet a beautiful and thoughtful woman who is also an FDSer. But if it turns out that she actually did have batshit views on sex and relationships that could negatively manifest later on in our relationship, I'd hit it and quit it.

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wtknight · 2022-02-02T00:17:51+00:00

I'm too frugal to attract someone who follows FDS, so this is a pointless question for me.

M3taBuster · 2022-02-02T00:44:01+00:00

I think it'd be easier for me to first take a step back and outline what my usual process is for deciding if I want a relationship with a girl:

Is she physically attractive?
Do I like her personality?
Does she seem promiscuous?
Does she share my hobbies/interests?
Does she share my core values?

So in the abstract, if a woman passes all 5 of those things, and then turns out to be an FDSer, then I suppose that's fine. But the problem is being an FDSer makes her far less likely to pass them in the first place, particularly 2 and 5. In fact, I might go as far as to say that if she does pass them, then she would cease to be an FDSer, by definition.

After all, what would a sweet, feminine, agreeable, conservative trad girl be doing on FDS, and how exactly would she qualify as an FDSer? Does she go there just to get shat on and called a "pick me" all the time? Point is, the idea of a girl passing all my requirements, but also being an FDSer just doesn't make sense. They seem to be in direct conflict.

Ayesaynay · 2022-02-02T00:44:55+00:00

No I would not even begin a relationship with a red piller no matter how great things may seem it is all a facade. There is no way that we can get along because we have opposing mentalities unless he is one of those that pretends online to make himself look important but acts a different way in real life (still a no) so this hypothetical can’t even happen, there are others who I can get along with that aren’t associated with any pill.

I would actually be insulted that I attracted those types lol, I assume TRP are intolerable IRL and have personal issues that would’ve presented themselves before a relationship so that alone can’t be compatible with me.

flapperfemmefatale · 2022-02-02T00:45:45+00:00

Nah, it'd be so much of a turn off that I couldn't even fuck them, let alone date them. It's like finding out they voted for Trump.

totally___bear · 2022-02-02T00:46:29+00:00

if hot aka 6/10 plus

yes

if ugly no

if personality atleast 6/10 yes

if personality 5/10 or below no

Yahween · 2022-02-02T00:56:19+00:00

No, never. Not even if she were an otherworldly beauty. The ideology is really off-putting.

Vtridolla · 2022-02-02T01:26:53+00:00

Hell fucking nawh. I like y’all just fine over these forums. Any closer and I’m cool on it.

NorseSaga · 2022-02-02T01:33:25+00:00

No, red pillers should breed out

WholeCelebration4567 · 2022-02-02T01:40:16+00:00

I dont know man any girl will due

cautionTomorrow555 · 2022-02-02T01:46:43+00:00

Not a chance they are only going to use me for my resources or hurt me. It is like seeing multiple signs for a minefield around a military base saying DANGER MINES YOU WILL DIE OR BE DISMEMBERED! In three different languages ACHTUNG and a drawn representation of dying then walking right into it.

mack2421 · 2022-02-02T02:04:53+00:00

I don’t know for sure but probably no. I’ve tried to look past it with a guy I dated and he wasn’t even super into it all. It’s hard because at it’s core it seems to spite women. They aren’t real people, and any complex interesting woman you find is an outlier. Honestly it isn’t just a red flag it kind of scares me. That may seem dramatic but with my past experiences those groups really freak me out.

John_Oakman · 2022-02-02T02:09:30+00:00

I'll never be good enough to be on their radar, so moot point. However I do use FDS to gauge the absolute minimum standards I need to achieve before even attempting any relationships past the platonic.

Fit-Photograph1646 · 2022-02-02T02:15:06+00:00

If she never told me she's fds I wouldn't even care tbh

They seem like they know what they want which is good but I feel most are in their late 30s and likely have kids already.

Teflon08191 · 2022-02-02T02:39:52+00:00

I might bang an FDSer but not a chance in hell I'd associate with her longer than necessary to accomplish that.

manfrom-nantucket · 2022-02-02T02:51:00+00:00

I never pursue a relationship with a woman. Casual sex sure, but a relationship is verboten.

FireGodGoesSeeknFire · 2022-02-02T02:51:42+00:00

If an FDSer who I found attractive was into me, I'd give it a shot. While the tone on there is insane I doubt it really reflects how most are in real life.

nick1812216 · 2022-02-02T02:57:21+00:00

Yes, I’m not going to avoid people because of religion, race, or subreddit membership, etc…

gmoney92_ · 2022-02-02T03:09:50+00:00

I have attracted FDS women and no I wouldn't. Some of the shit they ask for is crazy. I had a girl tell me it was expected that I send ubers to and from her apartment for dates. That's something a prostitute would ask for. She told me the only reason she showed up to the date when I didn't offer is because I was "handsome and probably untrained." That girl stayed single for a while until she found a dude that lived in her own neighborhood lmao.

The women that I've met that fit FDS characteristics fit a certain... erm... aesthetic? I've learned to avoid it, and I probably shouldn't explain further unless I'm to be called a racist/misogynist.

onJuputerandMars · 2022-02-02T03:15:06+00:00

Pass

luliloo · 2022-02-02T03:20:50+00:00

Of course, if they check all the boxes.

savage_jr · 2022-02-02T03:38:13+00:00

i would give an FDS girl a chance yeah— to be honest i would kinda have high hopes as long as they arent the real toxic kind. and the reason is that “our” sorts of people who have their heads on straight are very reality-checked when it comes to how transactional relationships REALLY are. And I think that would make communication easy.

343_peaches_and_tea · 2022-02-02T04:59:19+00:00

Probably continue the relationship. Or fuck or whatever I was planning on doing with this person.

Obviously in this example I would like them for reasons other than them being red pilled or FDS

But I think people worry too much. If you click, you click.

But FDS and red pill are diverse crowds. There are those in either community I'd date. We might not have identical views, but if they can compromise then I can too 🤷

Forever-and-ever982 · 2022-02-02T05:07:44+00:00

Nope things would just be toxic.

Phuxsea · 2022-02-02T05:48:37+00:00

It depends on how deep in the ideology.

unlivedbread · 2022-02-02T06:09:27+00:00

If a FDSer came onto me I'd take it slowly, and consider it in the context of indicators

TheMorningJoe · 2022-02-02T06:33:10+00:00

No because FDS truly want the 666 thing and I just don’t follow rules 1 & 2 lol

-passepar2t- · 2022-02-02T06:56:27+00:00

How would an FDSer keep her affiliation a secret from me when their whole thing is keeping me sex-deprived and making me pay for all our dates? I'd be able to figure it out within the first week.

Swans-r-cunts · 2022-02-02T08:40:52+00:00

It's a pointless question because TRP and what I'm attracted to are mutually exclusive.

All the men I date are simps to some degree. I'm naturally attracted to men who always call me beautiful and do nice things for me. Last time I checked, twerps did not do this for women.

Twerps are also never Chad lites or chads and I'm quite shallow. That's not an Insult to twerps - but naturally they discovered TRP because they struggled with women.

I also exclusively date extroverted men and never redditers.

aesthetic_anus_43 · 2022-02-02T09:05:23+00:00

No. Block and delete. Let the trash take itself out.

iiiiiiiiiijjjjjj · 2022-02-02T09:16:31+00:00

Elias_freecss · 2022-02-02T10:21:24+00:00

Even if at the beginning things look nice and you click and whatnot, the only way to know how things are really gonna go in the future is by the values you share, and in my case an FDS woman doesn't share them by definition.

SugandeseSpeaker420 · 2022-02-02T10:29:22+00:00

Fds logic based on some of their posts:

1.-"Oh he bought me some cookies." - "Break up with his scrote ass sis, thats a red flag!"

2.They want men that have assets worth more than 1 million dollars. Most of them are based in the USA. 1 in 14 Americans have such assets, but they want millionaires in a country where the average worth of assets owned per person is 50k. This number is lower than the corresponding number in European countries that were severely impacted by the economic crisis, like Greece and Spain. For reference, less than 1% are millionaires in the aforementioned countries. This shows the huge socioeconomic disparity in the US. But i guess if a man doesn't have a million there, he is a scrote, lol.

3.- "My best friend's baby daddy and current partner wants to propose to her, and he asked me to help pick a wedding ring" - "Tell her so she can break up with him. Thats a red flag sis."

I don't need to go on. Even if they do give some good tips about abuse spotting and have decent views on societal issues, i believe they are out of touch with reality. A relationship that has its issues and resolves them, is a better and stronger relationship. If there are no issues, it is a bad one. These women think it is the opposite. Any small issue is a red flag to them. So no.

BittererWegwerf · 2022-02-02T11:02:09+00:00

As a dude: If the things i've seen on FDS are in any way predictors of attitudes and behaviours in this hypothetical woman then i would not pursue anymore. I don't need someone who evaluates me along arbitrary lines of "High Value" and shit. If that makes me "Low Value" so be it. I honestly don't care.

Notanothrshitthrow · 2022-02-02T11:24:13+00:00

Guy here: no.

2022-02-02T12:45:28+00:00

nope to both.

I don't want a tradwife doormat. or someone who hates men while dating one.

however, I would pick rp over fds. the fact is, if rp women were better than any other type every guy would pursue trad women only. but they have their own problems and insecurities to be a mans toy in an equal society.

SocietalEngineering · 2022-02-02T13:06:02+00:00

Yeah, I’d date a FDS girl. I’m ex Redpill myself, and I get that sometimes that sort of hard edge irrational philosophy is what some people need in their lives.

Most people don’t live in the Redpill/FDS mindset forever, it fades away as you upgrade your life.

GwenXi · 2022-02-02T13:29:05+00:00

absolutely not.

Lonely_23_1997 · 2022-02-02T14:06:56+00:00

I would politely break things off and wish them the best.

BruddaMSK · 2022-02-02T14:31:53+00:00

I need to worship one of those FDS queens so yes.

pumpkie-spoon · 2022-02-02T15:19:36+00:00

I’d probably leave

Redpill men would see me as lesser than a women and just a alternative of what they can achieve (I’m a femboy)

FDS women would just view me as a product and a male that is easily obtainable or just a walking fetish basically

Of course there are exemptions and not all would think like this but that is my experience so far

lissssa-13 · 2022-02-02T17:09:23+00:00

Nope. I wouldn’t attract a redpiller anyway, thankfully.

NoFilterMPLS · 2022-02-02T19:51:26+00:00

I’m bi - I would pick a red piller as long as they weren’t too over the top. Probably not an FDSer though, as their community is far far more angry and toxic imho.

BuddUgly · 2022-02-02T20:08:44+00:00

If I attracted an FDSer, she would expect me to drop 100 dollars on the first date.

Pass.

Few-Distribution-586 · 2022-02-02T20:10:39+00:00

Never. These people expect nothing but perfection from you. I believe that neither of these groups seeks happiness or comfort. They truly expect you to show any kind of weakness, for any reason, so they can relentlessly bash your ass and bitch about online on how they picked "LVM" or how she is "shit testing you".

Reisiluu · 2022-02-02T20:47:30+00:00

I would enjoy his company and see how long it takes before he runs back home and cries to his internet cult about not getting sex.

gimpgirl555 · 2022-02-02T21:14:19+00:00

No redpill guys are cringe.

6gpdgeu58 · 2022-02-02T22:37:23+00:00

I don't think functional people would agree to date lol. These folks aren't very nice and tend to walk over others. I'm really bad at dealing with pushy people. So even if they can hide their tendency to be pushy and I will be in a knee-deep relationship, I would be really sad when I feel like being walk over.

And at that point, I'm just gonna avoid their face to the point that they either miss me enough to change for me, or avoidance becoming ghosting.

I think both FDS and redpill are good at finding people who will bend over for them. People who are bad at confrontation like me lol.

just_a_place · 2022-02-03T07:05:17+00:00

Speaking from experience NO!

I attracted an FDSer and I figured she was one by the way she attempted to know me. She asked me about porn when literally no woman has ever asked me anything to do with porn. I also caught her using red pill lingo such as "low value" and "shoot your shot" among other phrases I commonly see in FDS. Many red flags.

So I told her look I don't think we have enough in common to keep going with this but I'm still friendly is she ever just wants to hang out or talk or whatever. Her weird passive aggressive answer was that she doesn't talk to males who don't intend on being serious. I kinda felt like arguing that I am not asking her to be fuck buddies or anything that I am just letting her know if she wants me as a casual friend or something I would still talk to her, that this doesn't have to be some abrupt end but I held myself back. I didn't feel like arguing would be worth it so I said ok.

I told her it was nice knowing her and I wished her luck with finding the man she wants. I heard her call me something which I didn't really hear while I was walking away. I could not really tell what she was feeling but she did get very cold and icy towards the end and whatever remark she shot my way as I was leaving makes me think I dodged a toxic ass bullet right there.

The whole time I was with her it just didn't feel genuine to me. Like I wasn't a real person to her. It's weird. It's like she was roleplaying some script in her head because she didn't try to figure what I'm all about as women usually do. She looked guarded and from the start she was not very forthcoming with information about herself either so it was like what the hell am I doing here with this girl? She doesn't give a fuck about me and just wants to see if I pass whatever little shit test she picked up at FDS and she doesn't want to open up either to let me glimpse at what she is truly like.

I would have been confused as hell about this whole encounter if it weren't because I recognized her character and demeanor as coming from one who reads a lot of FDS crap.

Title	For men and women: If you attracted a Red Piller or FDSer would you pursue a relationship?
Author	FabulousFuchsbau
Upvotes	27
Comments	158
Date	February 1, 2022 11:32 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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