Imagine being this mad about having to put in effort to start a relationship. And of course under a woman's comment saying "this can go both ways" they ask, "are you fat?"

thinktwiceorelse · 2021-04-11T19:01:14+00:00

If you don't want to, don't. Problem solved.

witchingsauce · 2021-04-11T18:41:21+00:00

Local man can’t keep up with the effort going into tricking women to have sex and washes out of the ~~gene~~ dating pool, tragically missing the glimmer of self-awareness that the problem is not his sex but his own lack of fitness.

throwaway32132134 · 2021-04-11T19:51:04+00:00

It amazes me how much men praise doormat women. They act like these woman are the best thing that ever happened to the world, while in reality they show these woman zero respect, loyalty, empathy, decency or kindness. They are praising someone they repeatedly walk over and then encourage other women to be walked over as well. True clown shit. 😂🤡

myoklife · 2021-04-11T18:30:15+00:00

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Lemon_bars_addiction · 2021-04-11T18:36:33+00:00

So glad to be off OLD, they are literally all allergic to bare minimum effort or if they do, only do it with sex as a goal and then have the audacity to be pissed off if they don’t get it🙄

FDS-GFY · 2021-04-11T18:52:00+00:00

“Now that I’m working full time” -like he wasn’t before? Yeeesh

myoklife · 2021-04-11T19:09:22+00:00

Women literally have to change their entire bodies to look a way that does not exist naturally in nature so this man can suck it up and plan something for once in his life

Dude probably needs to be given explicit instructions for every task in his life, even at work. Sad, people like that don't usually get very far in society. It's also a sign that either his brain didn't develop properly or he could have some brain damage.

pinkcityscape · 2021-04-11T18:51:48+00:00

🎻🎻🎻

lucidlotus · 2021-04-11T19:13:32+00:00

I read this as "It's exhausting having to pretend I'm a decent man."

Mcccy · 2021-04-11T19:23:03+00:00

Ok? Keep ridding your bike and making lunch, no one is forcing you to date???

The_Pyramidion · 2021-04-11T19:53:47+00:00

Soooo

1) He's lazy, entitled, unfunny and rude doesn't seem like we're missing out here lmao

2) why is he not seeing this mysterious most interesting and sexiest woman in the world he's trying to triangulate all of us with?

2021-04-11T20:05:26+00:00

what kind of bullshit is this.

meanwhile, we go through a 2-3 hour rputine of showering, shaving, makeup, hair, nails etc.

meanwhile, we get sexually harassed, still on the app. key word dickpics.

meanwhile, we can't give out personal info because they might stalk us or show up at our house or workplace.

meanwhile, several friends get my live location, for safety reasons.

meanwhile, we carry pepper spray. just in case.

meanwhile, we organize our own transportation, because he might kidnap us. or worse.

meanwhile, our drinks get spiked often enough so there's literally nail polish thst reacts to date rape drugs.

meanwhile, we risk getting harassed, assaulted, raped.

meanwhile, we still have to do literally everything he's complaining about, except for the planning.

RiasXgremoryX · 2021-04-11T19:17:36+00:00

Translation:

"I shouldn't have to put in effort to get free sex, my stinky laundry washed and someone to bring me food while I'm gaming. Women should be lucky to have me to clean up after and be around even though I have a horrible personality, a bad temper, zero social skills, and can't hold a conversation. I'm lazy and entitled but women should love me for me! that's right, women are the problem and i'm the princess! I'm the prize!"

Plus there's a reason why the woman he's bragging about who planned their date 10 years ago didn't go on a second one with him, but he's too self-absorbed to realize it.

sveji- · 2021-04-11T20:42:41+00:00

Notice how he doesn't explain what happened between him and that "remarkable" woman who planned a date for him.

If she was so great, why didn't he commit to her and they are happily married now? Read between the lines. If it had been her fault, he would have said so. If they went on to have a LTR and the breakup had been a mutual, unavoidable thing, he would have said so. "The one that got away" Both of those options give him more victim points, right? "And then she started dating a rich asshole and never looked at me again, woe is me!"

Why doesn't he capitalize on more potential victimhood?

His silence speaks volumes, he fucked it up with her somehow and now he's all remorseful when his options become limited (almost like in his 30s he is hitting...the WALL?)

My guess is that this girl was a 6/10 instead of his preferred 8/10 "marriage material." So while he was still youthful and spoiled for choice, he pumped and dumped this "remarkable" woman, dangled the carrot of commitment over her head, and moved on to fucking a prettier woman as soon as she came along. Now he's 30, can't get pretty women to fuck him anymore, and suddenly he's all wistful about that one girl a decade ago who actually cared about him.

Sage_Planter · 2021-04-11T19:24:19+00:00

He needs to be more selective about who he dates. It’s not that complicated!

purasangria · 2021-04-11T19:35:28+00:00

Wow, he has to plan a date? That might take all of 5 minutes, how awful!

Edit: Here's how: "Hey are you free for dinner on next Friday or brunch on Sunday? Let me know if you prefer Thai or American. I'd like to know you better."

Ladies, if you received such a message from a man who was attractive and seemingly decent man, would you accept? I would.

AnniaT · 2021-04-11T20:18:56+00:00

Boo hoo, having to take a woman you're allegedly interested in and allegedly want to spend time with on a date. The gruelling effort, the tragedy.

Also never believe men who say they like when women are proactive and ask them on dates. They say this but these are not the women they want, they actually feel naturally repulsed by women who chase them.

Lavender_flow · 2021-04-11T19:18:34+00:00

HE whines about this, while women worry about getting threatened on the first date/raped/murdered or assaulted. But sure, men has it harder 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Also just by the post alone, I know why he has to go through so many dates and have zero luck with women, because he is a PoS garbage human who spends his time on Reddit whining about this. So strange that women get turned off by his disgusting sexist attitude- who would have known.

Also if that woman in his 20's was so great, why didnt it work out LOL?!

jargon_explosion · 2021-04-11T20:58:50+00:00

"I have to be mysterious, funny, strong, and portray an image of success."

These things are only difficult or considered work if you're transparent, boring, weak and a failure. They should come naturally if you are being genuine and honest with your date. If you are not these things, then yes, having to keep up the charade must be exhausting.

_queeeen_ · 2021-04-11T21:06:08+00:00

I hate to know that some poor, well-intentioned, unenlightened woman will read this and think to herself “I should ask men out more often!”

No. Do not do this. It won’t solve the effort problem one iota. He’ll probably act like an ungrateful brat about showing up on time and groomed to whatever she plans. If he doesn’t make an effort right out the gate, the whole relationship is going to be a struggle of begging him to do less than the bare minimum. Not worth it.

fdssavedmylife · 2021-04-11T19:55:34+00:00

Yeah, bud. If you wanna get laid, you’re gunna have to do that. Don’t need sex? Stay home. Stop wasting our time. No one wants to date a loser who can’t plan a date.

Also, if the woman who asked him out was soooo amazing, why didn’t it work out? Huh, interesting.

janeaustenfan99 · 2021-04-11T20:13:34+00:00

He wants easier sexual access.

Apprehensive_Ad_7917 · 2021-04-11T21:24:24+00:00

There’s some research out that contradicts his statement that it’s worse for other guys. The male crybabies have been screaming that women only go for attractive men but the study shows that it’s the opposite. Men go for the most attractive women while women go for low to average attractiveness men. Another example of outright projection.

I think there’s a few things going on:

1) Men are delusional about the number of options they have, tons of OLD apps pay models and put up fake profiles to lure men into premium subscriptions.

2) Men often put barely any effort into their profiles and when they do, it’s often not done to attract women. Men do things for other men and I don’t think they realize that means they’re curating their OLD profile for the male gaze. That’s why so many start out saying rude shit to women, because that’s how they’d treat you if their buddies were around and it’s how they treat their male friends.

3) Finally, men aren’t good at apps. They either don’t understand how they work or don’t think they need to participate correctly. Tons of guys barely fill out their profiles including the deal breakers like politics, kids, smoking. When asked, it’s because they wanted to widen their dating pool but women will ask these questions and weed them back out. They’re too stupid to realize that they’re wasting their own time.

I’m going to look up the woman on TikTok who was going over this because whew was it illuminating.

rideoffalone · 2021-04-11T22:20:18+00:00

Things we have to do for first dates:

-shave legs

-shave armpits

-shave bikini area

-shave/wax facial hair

-exfoliate feet

-paint toenails

-paint fingernails

-put on lotion/self tanner

-pluck eyebrows

-put on foundation

-put on concealer

-put on blush

-put on eyeshadow

-put on eyeliner

-curl eyelashes

-put on mascara

-fill our eyebrows

-put on lipliner

-put on lipstick

-put on jewelry (earrings, necklace, bracelet, anklet)

-blowdry hair

-straighten/curl hair

-wear uncomfortable shoes

-wear uncomfortable dress

-wear uncomfortable bra

-put on perfume

-tell our friends/family where we are in case we get abducted

-eat enough that the guy doesn't tease us about eating nothing but not so much that he thinks we're a pig

-sit and listen while a man rambles on about himself and doesn't ask us anything about ourselves

It's utterly exhausting.

Important_Page_6846 · 2021-04-11T20:25:37+00:00

“Hey want to go to blank for dinner Saturday?” “Yea, sounds good” *makes reservations A whole 4 minutes seems like a lot to these losers who want to pump and dump for 30 seconds without any effort or repercussions. But boo hoo for him right? Jeeesssshhh when will all women just laugh and block these losers who try and shame us into lowering our standards? Like “I’d much rather bike and have dinner by myself” ... ok so do that? I’m not understanding the problem here?

Charming-Bee-2337 · 2021-04-11T22:32:34+00:00

I swear porn use makes them more lazy and less motivated to date women in real life.

idiosyncraticg1 · 2021-04-11T20:36:44+00:00

Ok, then ride your bike around the lake? There’s nothing wrong with that. But oh, seems like that’s not actually what you want, or else you wouldn’t have written a reddit post about it.

nnanna11 · 2021-04-11T20:20:13+00:00

nobody’s forcing him to do anything. men make it harder for themselves

ItsFreezen · 2021-04-11T21:58:45+00:00

He was so impressed with her they didn't continue dating.

lilithdianara · 2021-04-11T20:34:26+00:00

Lololololol men and their delusions.

oliveial4185 · 2021-04-11T21:16:48+00:00

CRY ME A FFUSVJCKNG RIVER. No one is forcing you to do anything.

It's called dating. If you don't want to date, don't date. HELLO??? EARTH TO MAN???

"A guy who is priviledged enough to actually get dates...I don't want to burn ... through that sh*t..." Okay, so don't? There is so much to unpack in that post, but I am just so tired...of these..entitled PRIVELIDGED men.

SoybeanApocalypse · 2021-04-11T21:38:20+00:00

Meanwhile women's stress from dating comes from being harassed, stalked, assaulted. They have no self awareness at all. Putting effort is a show of good faith and investment, and if he cared about relationships he wouldn't even feel the need to fake a personality. They complain that behaving sociopathically to get sex is exhausting.

Hostileovaries · 2021-04-11T23:33:28+00:00

The bolded section though. "can't have any adversity in my life on the first date". Uhh what adversities are you sharing on the first date? Why is that section bolded and so important to him? Sounds like someone who emotionally dumps on his date right out the gate

Novemberinthechair · 2021-04-11T22:59:58+00:00

Why aren't you with that sexy woman who asked you out all those years ago, Billy?

ShegoGreen · 2021-04-12T00:10:46+00:00

This guy is such a turn-off. This guy is complaining about putting in the work to date women for a period of time, but fails to see the permanent price women pay for being with low-lives like him.

Salt_Satisfaction · 2021-04-12T00:28:40+00:00

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cannabis_ferox · 2021-04-11T22:41:26+00:00

Oh, boo fuckin’ hoo.

Notspecificc · 2021-04-12T05:10:37+00:00

“It has yet to happen again”.

So, naturally it’s the fault of all women that no other woman has ever been that interested in him. It couldn’t possibly be that he’s the problem. Nooo.

Funny that when women can’t get dates, they point blame inwards. But men always point the blame outwards and don’t try to reflect on themselves or try to have any sort of self awareness. In reality, his disgusting attitude is probably emanating off of him and warding any woman with a shred of self respect away.

maraslove · 2021-04-12T01:06:17+00:00

Wah wah WAH! I hate a cry baby ass mfer. He should just DL shit Bumble and call it a day. They don’t want to do crap anymore but complain.

skyerippa · 2021-04-12T03:27:57+00:00

You have to pretend to have a personality? You have bigger problems than dating bro

Noemie_Mathilde · 2021-04-12T00:08:26+00:00

"mysterious" lol

sveji- · 2021-04-12T13:07:43+00:00

Oh, so you got what you wanted, a woman asked you out and planned the whole date. So where is she now? Hmm? Why aren't you still together? Maybe because she realised how little effort you want to put in dating her, and realised she was better off without you? Ever thought about that?

2021-04-12T02:01:08+00:00

Then don't. He has a choice. Plenty of LV pickmeishas out there.

2021-04-12T05:49:15+00:00

Lmao the fact that coming up with a plan is that hard for these kinda guys 🤣🤣 i always make sure to mention the types of places i enjoy eating at and such to see if they have any sorta listening skills 🤦🤦🤦 we basically tell you what we like lmao why is it so hard to make a plan guys!?🤣

EffectiveHoneydew422 · 2021-04-12T09:09:49+00:00

what the fuck is he whinging about? How hard it is for him to pretend to not be a loser? Sorry but yeah go ride your bike and then have a toss, the rest of us women will be juuuuust fine without you and your dates

daisy_0720 · 2021-04-12T10:50:25+00:00

The time it took for him to type out that whiny tirade, he could have called and made reservations in like 3 restaurants, lol.

Fucking pathetic.

howdoilogoutt · 2021-04-12T17:49:49+00:00

But... but porn made it look so easy!

amhran_oiche · 2021-04-12T19:48:37+00:00

WHEW this post is really sending me.

>"I have to be the one who asks her out, who decides where we're going, I have to pay."

In general, this attitude bothers me because statistically men in relationships just do less in their relationships. There are no shortage of women complaining that their partners do not plan dates and put in little to no effort for other things of importance. A man setting this precedence on the first date is all I need to know about how the rest of our relationship would go.

Also, if you ask someone out it only makes sense that you pay, and therefore you should also pick the place so you can stay within (and also demonstrate) your budget. It makes no sense for two people to split any of those tasks. You're going to pick where we go and ask me to pay for even just my half? Why? You're going to ask me out, but have me pick where? It doesn't make sense. If you want to ask someone out, *ask someone out.* Telling someone you're interested in them, but not enough to make any effort, is beyond low. You're asking someone to take on the burden of impressing themselves. That makes no sense. She was fine without you bud! If you want to be a part of her life, DO SOMETHING. And yes, asking someone to spend an evening with you is still part of their life. We're not waiting around pining for a date, we do have other things we can be doing, and *other men we can be seeing.*

>"I have to be mysterious, funny, strong, and portray an image of success. I have to keep her engaged and make sure she's having a good time..."

I literally don't understand this. You have to have a personality? You have to be likeable?

The "have to" wording bothers me. I think it implies "I have to do this...*in order to get laid."* Like no, you don't have to do any of that unless you were hoping, AT THE LEAST, to get laid, but this is also to genuinely connect with someone, but you do you babe. The bar is really so low.

>"I can't have any adversity in my life at all on the first date."

???

You're right king, we don't to hear about your crazy ex or baby mama. WE'RE STRANGERS. THAT IS TOO MUCH INFORMATION. This is a tactic employed by PUAs to hook women emotionally. If this is what you have to offer on a first date like is it really going to go uphill from here?

>"Statistically most first dates don't turn into second dates for whatever reason."

It is, without a doubt, a complete and utter mystery.

>"Now that I'm working full time, I don't want to burn through my Saturday going through that sh*t. I'd rather just ride my mountain bike around the lake and have a nice lunch afterward solo."

He is literally so close to getting it. It's almost as if a potential partner should bring something to your already-fulfilled life. Hmmm.

Also, *now that* he's working full time? Is this why paying for dates has been so hard? He had no place trying to entertain dating if that's the case. Weird that no one wanted to date a part time working man in his 30s who couldn't or wouldn't pay for dates.

>"When I was in my early 20s a woman asked me out on a date. She already had it planned. I thought she was the sexiest and most remarkable woman in the world. I still remember it a decade later."

YOU'RE RIGHT! YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT! It is sexy and remarkable! It is memorable! *Why don't you think we deserve it?*

Lol weird that they're not still together. *Cardi B voice* That's weird.

Wildestrose1988 · 2021-04-13T05:32:41+00:00

Notice he's not with the woman who pursued him...

Nat_at_all · 2021-04-12T14:28:31+00:00

Lol so why isn't he with her then? Oh wait... was he not ready to "get tied down" and didn't put in any effort to the point where she cut her losses...

Go ride your mountain bike dude, goodbye.

IAteTheDragon · 2021-04-12T17:18:43+00:00

No woman wants a crybaby. It's so unmanly 👎🏼

nonchalance77 · 2021-04-12T20:08:37+00:00

I wonder why these types don’t get a fuck doll? They clearly have the money. They can design her to be however they want and no effort required. Just come home from work and bang the doll. Leave us alone.

aquietsword · 2021-04-12T21:26:25+00:00

Imagine being ignorant to how useless men are and being scammed into marriage with a pos like this. Talk about ball and chain.

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